@@Dshi_Delia that why she did a tribute with a minute silence cause kokeliet didn't thanked Beyonce on the success of the yt channel and VCHA vanished for the same reason
JYP rushed it only to "win" the international gg race and, no matter what it means in Korean, "VCHA" is a bad name for English speaking gg for the western market.
The real title: What Really Happened to 4:40 - 5:23. Stuff like that happens so it's fine, but it's also a reminder to remember about quality control before releasing.
This reminds me like pristin they debuted on 2017 with 2 album that has "wee woo" and "we like" in it, after a year that pristin debuted they debuted a sub unit called pristin V and released a song called "get it" and after all the promotions and group activities they went radio silent and fans are outraged of no group activities, promotions and comebacks and after a year of the sub unit debuted, pledis announced that pristin would disband after 2 years of being active and the members are wasted and mismanaged by the company, i hope they will never disband. Because i love them since debut and i don't want they will be wasted their talent because they trained soo hard.
Prisin's fate still hurts. "Spotlight" was heart-wrenching. Those girls deserved so much better and their albums were great, with self-produced songs. They went from Rookies of the Year and performing with Chungha, Weki-Meki, Fromis9 and AKB48, to splitsville waaaaay too fast.
This was such a bad move for Jyp. Their music didnt work with their audience. Dont get me wrong, i like their music but social media is huge and they failed to trend. They had a huge audience from a2k and everyone was anticipating their debut and they decided to release a "Disney" song. Maybe if they debuted with Only one, they wouldve had more success.
@@hallooos7585 You are confusing "clean and simple nostalgia" with "cute and infantilized," although Ilit tries to do both. If JYP didn't pick such young girls, they wouldn't have been locked into something so basic that appeals to a very small audience over here. He's still chasing that unicorn without knowing it's just a white horse with a fake horn slapped on it.
I'm glad for this video/content for keeping everything "factual" bc I've been seeing a lot of other contents already and they tend to spread rumors/allegations/speculations/conspiracy theory/etc. (which can be annoying, bc people believe in everything they watched these days)
This is why i like hybe tactics better they are very good at promoting their groups because they know they have the resources for it unlike jyp who was just rushing to be the first and look where that got him. Now the precious girls are no where to be seen😢
Have PATIENCE, if they disband so be it, but there's a concept change on the horizon VLIGHT forever ❤❤❤this is on REPUBLIC RECORDS too expensive too keep k-pop is hard period.
Their concept and music just didn’t work with the audience. Whatever hype they had gained from that survival show, it quickly died down after that "disney debut". Honestly I won't be surprised if JYP moves on by disbanding them in the future or just puts them in "indefinite hiatus".
exactly, and compared to katseye, vcha is losing in categories like talent, songs, and even the groups name. jyp just wanted to make sure they were going to be the "First" international kpop group. he didn't let the girls actually develop in talent and gave them some disney rejected songs and called it a day. and now, the girls are paying the price for it.
@codhelenheli Can y'all push this Katseye competition elsewhere? Every time VCHA is mentioned, it's the same nonsense. JYPE does not disband groups just because they weren't received well on debut. That has literally never happened in the history of the company. Not even when NMIXX got dragged to hell their first year, not when Xdinary Heroes and NEXZ failed to make noise, never. There's something weird going on and if everyone was less focused on hating the girls, maybe we'd reach a place of actual concern and really try to figure out what the hell happened. Because as much as you guys think VCHA was flopping, they were doing fine for rookies. I mean a few months old with like five songs and you're booked for Lolla? Flopping isn't at the core of this.
In my opinion, minors shouldn't debut in K-pop or a kpop program to be a international group. I think 16, 17 could be accepted as a trainee.but they should only debut at 19, which is the age of majority in South Korea.Think about the stress when they become idols. Besides, if you are a foreigner, the right thing to do would be to learn the local language first. There are several groups of minors currently going through difficult situations. And many drop out of primary and secondary school to train non-stop and when someone asks a question that involves education, like a historical figure, if they don't know how to answer, they are crucified. I enjoyed watching the reality show but I thought the selection method was terrible. Several people I was rooting for didn't make it in. And from the beginning I found it strange to put 12 as the minimum age. Kpop companies should be more responsible. 😢
this feel like a pristin situation. if some of you were around, they were only posting on sns when it was the birthday of a member. we all know how it went... i feel sorry for vcha, i didn't follow them even if my favorite group is from jyp, but these girls are cute and have so much potential, hope they can releasevsome music soon and be successful .
Execs continue to miss the big picture. It is not age issue specifically. It is how inappropriate they manage young artists. LS with Fearless ground choreo; New Jeans with Cookie lyrics. The industry lost all trust of fans and regulatory agencies.
I love Vcha and I hate all the things I’m hearing from online I do understand now people are worried but but I highly doubt they’ll disband I think the online community is just blowing it out of proportion My guess and I could be completely wrong but I’m gonna guess there all gonna comeback after January or a later month with a new and different sounding song I just have a gut feeling Vcha will be fine
Pretty sure JYP just forgot they exist while making his 40's new band on yet another show for another market. If they don't gain instant success, we may never hear from them again. Hell, he barely remembers ITZY and NMIXX.
Ngl... I forgot they existed already after the announcement of A2K. Because I personally have no interest in a westernised version of K-pop. But, I do hope these is a good explanation for all of this and that JYP and Republic Records take responsibility. You dont just create a group and make them work so hard for their dreams, to just to be abandoned. Honestly, that goes for every entertainment company.
I am just going to say this. Vcha is taking a break since JYP doesnt want all the members feeling too overwhelmed OMG they never flopped and stop comparing them to Katseye these eyekons r so annoying...
first of all, their have been americans, japanese, and other foreign idols in kpop since the first generation. secondly, vcha is a global girl group, not a kpop group.
As a fan, I can say their vocals, dynamic, diversity in members, funny and wholesome personality and especially music is more appealing even though I always find it short. They update frequent, travel around to perform, on shows, have mini concerts and are active. They even do weverse. You can say they're active.
Honestly, I’m thinking that Kaylee is no longer in the group due to her health issues and they’re focusing on re-recording/re-choriographing everything without her.
ITS JUST THAT JYP IS BROKE IF YOU NOTICE THAT USUALLY JYP GIVES NMIXX GETS 2 M/V ITZY GETS 3 M/V AND STRAY KIDS GETS 1 M/V AND SOME SPECIAL VIDEOS BUT THIS YEAT NMIXX GOT 1 M/V ITZY IS GETTING ONLY 2 M/V AS COMAPRED to 3 AND STRAY KIDS GOT 2 M/V AND VCHA GOT NONE
i obviously wish it's not true, but i've been thinking, what if a member died? you know, it's something that can happen to anyone at anytime and idols are not an exception. that's why i don't think it's a crazy theory. maybe i'm overdramatic, but it's still possible, especially since they've been inactive for so long, without any news.
is not hiatus, kaylee quit long time ago, she fulfill her dream, a kpop star, even performed in front of thousands, parents pulled her out for education. jyp not able to get kaylee back, got mad, punish vcha, shut down vcha. dont want legal actions. jyp coulda just brought in one of the girl from show and continue. horrible company to the hard working girls with dreams shattered and their fans. total bullshit
4:40 to 5:23 silence😭
Kokelit didn’t thank Beyoncé for the video…rest in peace😭💀
LMAOOO
It was to tribute Beyonce cause she knows
@@someone5132 KOKELIET didn’t thank Beyoncé 😭💀
@@Dshi_Delia that why she did a tribute with a minute silence cause kokeliet didn't thanked Beyonce on the success of the yt channel and VCHA vanished for the same reason
@@someone5132 help-😭
JYP rushed it only to "win" the international gg race and, no matter what it means in Korean, "VCHA" is a bad name for English speaking gg for the western market.
And a bad name for spanish speakers (bicha)
Terrible name
“Vcha” is a romanized version of the English “feature.” This group name makes sense but isn’t catchy.
yeah i agree 💯
@@rainy9angel wasn't it shine/light 빛아 (bicha)??
We had the opportunity to see them open for TWICE in Vegas and they did AMAZING 🎉
delete your all songs lil bro
@@jihyos_mineeee yes
@@jihyos_mineeee fr
Flop frfr
Vcha definitely did a great job performance in Las Vegas
The real title: What Really Happened to 4:40 - 5:23.
Stuff like that happens so it's fine, but it's also a reminder to remember about quality control before releasing.
HELP LMAOOO
Facts.
did anoyone elses randomly get silent at 4:38?
Same😢
Me
yup audio cuts out
Me
Yeah
This reminds me like pristin they debuted on 2017 with 2 album that has "wee woo" and "we like" in it, after a year that pristin debuted they debuted a sub unit called pristin V and released a song called "get it" and after all the promotions and group activities they went radio silent and fans are outraged of no group activities, promotions and comebacks and after a year of the sub unit debuted, pledis announced that pristin would disband after 2 years of being active and the members are wasted and mismanaged by the company, i hope they will never disband. Because i love them since debut and i don't want they will be wasted their talent because they trained soo hard.
pledis has a history of not managing their girl groups correctly.
also cause get it is one of the best songs released in the past decade
@@luking4music363 Damn right.
Prisin's fate still hurts. "Spotlight" was heart-wrenching. Those girls deserved so much better and their albums were great, with self-produced songs. They went from Rookies of the Year and performing with Chungha, Weki-Meki, Fromis9 and AKB48, to splitsville waaaaay too fast.
This was such a bad move for Jyp. Their music didnt work with their audience. Dont get me wrong, i like their music but social media is huge and they failed to trend. They had a huge audience from a2k and everyone was anticipating their debut and they decided to release a "Disney" song. Maybe if they debuted with Only one, they wouldve had more success.
it's cause the cute concept doesn't work for western audiences.
@@LimonelgueyNewjeans and Illit ahem ahem
@@hallooos7585 You are confusing "clean and simple nostalgia" with "cute and infantilized," although Ilit tries to do both. If JYP didn't pick such young girls, they wouldn't have been locked into something so basic that appeals to a very small audience over here. He's still chasing that unicorn without knowing it's just a white horse with a fake horn slapped on it.
I'm glad for this video/content for keeping everything "factual" bc I've been seeing a lot of other contents already and they tend to spread rumors/allegations/speculations/conspiracy theory/etc. (which can be annoying, bc people believe in everything they watched these days)
A new update: Cristina said that They are fine and alive they will come as a whole vcha member and then she said i can't say anything more about them
Which Cristina?
@@NicoleMiyahnicole she was apart of A2k the show they were formed and became friends with the members
Source?
Idk if I would trust her bc she’s given a lot of shade to the girls bc she’s mad she didn’t debut.
The same christina that was making fun of vcha and liking hate comments against them??
Tbh I really miss them
Am I the only one that doesn’t hear some parts in this video
Nah, dw. Same happened for me. Smth like this also happened in another one of her recent vids
me too
Ditto
It happened to me too
😂fr
This is why i like hybe tactics better they are very good at promoting their groups because they know they have the resources for it unlike jyp who was just rushing to be the first and look where that got him. Now the precious girls are no where to be seen😢
VCHA doesn't deserve this treatment. They have been working so hard.
fun fact: Kaylee is barely a month older than me
Bro they worked so hard. These girls are so talented
Have PATIENCE, if they disband so be it, but there's a concept change on the horizon VLIGHT forever ❤❤❤this is on REPUBLIC RECORDS too expensive too keep k-pop is hard period.
They naturally fizzled out, it happens with kpop groups, the success and longevity in the business is never guaranteed
but vcha is not kpop, their a global girl group like xg and katseye
@@LimonelgueyXg is not a global girl group they are Xpop and Jpop
The silence was loud😭
Their concept and music just didn’t work with the audience. Whatever hype they had gained from that survival show, it quickly died down after that "disney debut". Honestly I won't be surprised if JYP moves on by disbanding them in the future or just puts them in "indefinite hiatus".
I agree.
exactly, and compared to katseye, vcha is losing in categories like talent, songs, and even the groups name. jyp just wanted to make sure they were going to be the "First" international kpop group. he didn't let the girls actually develop in talent and gave them some disney rejected songs and called it a day. and now, the girls are paying the price for it.
@codhelenheli Can y'all push this Katseye competition elsewhere? Every time VCHA is mentioned, it's the same nonsense.
JYPE does not disband groups just because they weren't received well on debut. That has literally never happened in the history of the company. Not even when NMIXX got dragged to hell their first year, not when Xdinary Heroes and NEXZ failed to make noise, never. There's something weird going on and if everyone was less focused on hating the girls, maybe we'd reach a place of actual concern and really try to figure out what the hell happened. Because as much as you guys think VCHA was flopping, they were doing fine for rookies. I mean a few months old with like five songs and you're booked for Lolla? Flopping isn't at the core of this.
In my opinion, minors shouldn't debut in K-pop or a kpop program to be a international group. I think 16, 17 could be accepted as a trainee.but they should only debut at 19, which is the age of majority in South Korea.Think about the stress when they become idols. Besides, if you are a foreigner, the right thing to do would be to learn the local language first. There are several groups of minors currently going through difficult situations. And many drop out of primary and secondary school to train non-stop and when someone asks a question that involves education, like a historical figure, if they don't know how to answer, they are crucified. I enjoyed watching the reality show but I thought the selection method was terrible. Several people I was rooting for didn't make it in. And from the beginning I found it strange to put 12 as the minimum age. Kpop companies should be more responsible. 😢
this feel like a pristin situation. if some of you were around, they were only posting on sns when it was the birthday of a member. we all know how it went... i feel sorry for vcha, i didn't follow them even if my favorite group is from jyp, but these girls are cute and have so much potential, hope they can releasevsome music soon and be successful .
It would be epic if they did a MINX to Dreamcatcher kind of transformation
Hello everyone. I saw Facebook from VCHA that they are not disbanded. They are coming back in 2025 confirmed already.
There was an update TODAY. Can you all get ACTUAL jyp updates instead of yapping?
Execs continue to miss the big picture. It is not age issue specifically. It is how inappropriate they manage young artists. LS with Fearless ground choreo; New Jeans with Cookie lyrics. The industry lost all trust of fans and regulatory agencies.
Guys their working on music, Don't worry
I thought they were taking a break 😂😂😂😂
Whats with the random audio silence around 4:40? Are my headphones broken or your audio also randomly cut? It lasts till 5:20
Sameee
it was a moment of silence for the group because they probably aint coming back
I'm really concerned about her
I love Vcha and I hate all the things I’m hearing from online I do understand now people are worried but but I highly doubt they’ll disband I think the online community is just blowing it out of proportion My guess and I could be completely wrong but I’m gonna guess there all gonna comeback after January or a later month with a new and different sounding song
I just have a gut feeling Vcha will be fine
the fact Kaylee was born on 2009 and i was born on 2011... i always thought she was younger then me
I'm a 2008 girlie and I was surprised she's ONLY a year younger than me
I never doubted kaylee she was the most mature among them and was a fast learner and she helped others a lot too
she shouldn't have debuted but kept as a trainee for future groups
Pretty sure JYP just forgot they exist while making his 40's new band on yet another show for another market. If they don't gain instant success, we may never hear from them again. Hell, he barely remembers ITZY and NMIXX.
promoting l2k while a2k failed💀💀
i really hope they come back
There was a release around 11 hours ago, saying activities will resume next year
Ngl... I forgot they existed already after the announcement of A2K. Because I personally have no interest in a westernised version of K-pop. But, I do hope these is a good explanation for all of this and that JYP and Republic Records take responsibility. You dont just create a group and make them work so hard for their dreams, to just to be abandoned. Honestly, that goes for every entertainment company.
Speaking of "silence". What happened with this video?
5th, i love watching your videos!
I am just going to say this. Vcha is taking a break since JYP doesnt want all the members feeling too overwhelmed OMG they never flopped and stop comparing them to Katseye these eyekons r so annoying...
At least Kaylee isn’t as young as Seowon
I'm just not sure about foreigns in kpop.
first of all, their have been americans, japanese, and other foreign idols in kpop since the first generation. secondly, vcha is a global girl group, not a kpop group.
I think it's because of the deep fake videos in korea targeting idols especially minors (I think I'm not sure just a theory)
I love your analysis videos!!!! Can you do an analysis on why is KATSEYE so much more successful and popular than VCHA?
I personally think Katseye's members look really harmonious together and their music is more appealing
As a fan, I can say their vocals, dynamic, diversity in members, funny and wholesome personality and especially music is more appealing even though I always find it short. They update frequent, travel around to perform, on shows, have mini concerts and are active. They even do weverse. You can say they're active.
@@leenuhh_i hope they keep the hype and make a comeback or release long banger singles for the remaining part of the year
I think you have to edit your audio again it was cut!
24 mins? VCHA is going popular now? (In a bad way but still)
I still think they've been making a Disney show or something.
it weird mistreated
Michael Jackson started at 6
Vcha didn't thanked Beyonce thats why they vanished
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Katseye got them intimidated lol
why bring up katseye?..
@@darling_yasu it’s a joke, relax
@@AreolaGrandeXD okiii
Tbh i want both katseye and vcha to make a comeback and see the competition unfold for rising group competition is healthy if it's done properly
Did anyone else have complete silence from 4:37 to 5:17?
Ngl . Their song is nice.. but it sounds like a Kpop song..
Vcha didn’t thank Beyoncé 😔
Beyoncé was not happy bout that😭
I see someone said it best that disney twice sound doesnt work for a global aspect im sorry 😂
no sound
Honestly, I’m thinking that Kaylee is no longer in the group due to her health issues and they’re focusing on re-recording/re-choriographing everything without her.
the video has no audio-
cant even be bothered to check ur videos before uploading? becoming more and more low quality and low effort...
824 Schoen Square
I've never liked vcha
What happened to the sound??
ITS JUST THAT JYP IS BROKE IF YOU NOTICE THAT USUALLY JYP GIVES NMIXX GETS 2 M/V ITZY GETS 3 M/V AND STRAY KIDS GETS 1 M/V AND SOME SPECIAL VIDEOS BUT THIS YEAT NMIXX GOT 1 M/V ITZY IS GETTING ONLY 2 M/V AS COMAPRED to 3 AND STRAY KIDS GOT 2 M/V AND VCHA GOT NONE
twice and stray kids are making jyp a lot of money with their world tours
hi iluv your videos
KATSEYE ended these flops😂
This is not even about them this is a different Global Group
i obviously wish it's not true, but i've been thinking, what if a member died? you know, it's something that can happen to anyone at anytime and idols are not an exception. that's why i don't think it's a crazy theory. maybe i'm overdramatic, but it's still possible, especially since they've been inactive for so long, without any news.
If something like that would happen, the agency HAS to make an announcement or something like that
@@1simmmmm i was thinking that too, but i also think that a period of mourning would be understandable for anyone in the company
what??
@@art_supplies_are_delectable yes girl, death is an event happening to human beings, shocking right 😭
hiii
Hiiiiii
@@HiAndroidyay hi kinda sad that vcha started the trend but then went down
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is not hiatus, kaylee quit long time ago, she fulfill her dream, a kpop star, even performed in front of thousands, parents pulled her out for education. jyp not able to get kaylee back, got mad, punish vcha, shut down vcha. dont want legal actions. jyp coulda just brought in one of the girl from show and continue. horrible company to the hard working girls with dreams shattered and their fans. total bullshit
where did you get this fake news young lad 💀
this couldnt be farther than the truth lmfao
dawg be quiet they r aking a break
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