Not mentioning CLC and EVERGLOW in a video like this is a crime honestly. Both groups had multiple momets to get insanely popular but their companies fumbled ALL of them :(
EVERGLOW is currently on tour. CLC deserved to tour. It's like these companies don't care about earning money for their artists. They just do as little as possible to keep their own paychecks until the next group. 😳
Not mentioning EVERGLOW is the biggest Crime in TERMS of Company Sabotage. They literally deserve love and more attention. They are literally sabotaged by their company most of the time like during the zombie era the company deleted the music 2 times and during their slay era their company delayed the music by 2-3 hours after the release date.
I said it in the past, I'll say it again, f*ck YUEHUA, you had YIREN WANG WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOP VISUAL IN 4TH GENERATION BUT GUESS WHAT YOU F*CK HER UP. WHO YOU HAVE AGAINST YIREN? CAUSE EVEN SULLYOON AND WONYOUNG AND KARINA HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST YIREN THE PRETTIEST IDOL EVERRRR.
the truth is BP would have been way more respected by the audience if they had more music as well as content on which people could form an opinion. Cause right now, they get so much hate because of small mistakes that everyone makes but BP lacks the content to overshadows the bad
JYP only favor One member of Miss A, maybe what I saw on yt was right about f(x) that they are just a back up group just in case SNSD doesn't work out, SECRET are treated badly, especially when they were new
@@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine What do you mean? Are you telling me that I don't know fully, what makes you know about me?? I fully know that I know better than u , imagine saying you don't fully know that lol
Knew Red Velvet would be on here, SM treat them so terribly. Hardly and promotional content for comebacks no dance practices, MV reaction videos, hardly and performance videos…. They don’t post any of their achievements meanwhile psycho is SM’s biggest song statistically and they just don’t respect Red Velvet at all.
@@joeblack3623 girl that has nothing to do with nothing that was four years ago the stylist said she’d like to move on and stop speaking on the situation as she and Irene handled it privately and Irene has apologized on multiple occasions. AND most of what I just mentioned has been going on since before the scandal even happened… also Irene still the most popular member of Red Velvet and still is the member bringing in the most revenue from the group with the most engagement, even till now and she’s having a solo debut soon so clearly that has nothing to do with it. This was you trying to throw hate Irene’s way and you didn’t even read what I had to say
What about WJSN? They've been done pretty dirty too. Starship (figuratively) threw them aside like an old toy after debuting IVE. There was also a severe lack of global promotions since debut, it's been 2 years since their last comeback with no news, and only 8 members renewed their contracts with the agency last year (Chinese members left SSE and the group, and Luda and Dawon left SSE). Chinese UJUNGs even sent trucks to SSE just last month, and still no news of the group.
What about Momoland? After losing 3 valuable members, MLD Entertainment treated the group like trash. And also ITZY they haven’t been successful since Cheshire
@@Lalisa_mimi I just edited it but honestly you're right 😭. I love exo so much tho. It just makes me mad when potential and greatness is being mishandled and that's got7 to a T
You would think JYP would know how to manage and protect his artist since he was once a kpop idol. Itzy was also sabotaged. If JYP did not promate sneakers as a royal concept maybe it wouldve been better. And Vcha? What happened to then. Their latest video was from 6 months ago
I think sneakers are just a preference because knetz love that... For VCHA, I think JYP wants to change their image, because it's a matter of preference again... The Western doesn't like the "micky mouse house club" type song even though they are literally teenagers, But western audiences love songs that have more mature themes, even teenagers prefer songs with that themes
YG really did Blackpink dirty. The whole close to 17 million in album sales, the 2022-23 tour that is the highest grossing K Pop tour of all time with 281 million in ticket sales, 13 billion streams on Spotify alone, 5 videos on RUclips with over a billion views... Yeah that lack of variety shows appearances really hurt their career and caused them to suffer 🙄🙄🙄🙄
😂😂😂😂…you all keep exaggerating everything, where’s the proof of that except YG as the biggest liar in the company feeding you all with lie. Try search what exactly written in the company, then you know what is the truth.
And this has nothing to do with YG. Lisa's songs ROCKSTAR and New Woman have been equally successful if not more. She has performed on VMAS, Global Citizen festival and will now perform on Victoria’s secret fashion show. Jennie is now the kpop female soloist with the most streamed song on spotify. Jennie also holds the record of the most monthly listeners on Spotify by a kpop female act surpassing BLACKPINK. She is #1 since January. Rosie is releasing an album this December. Jisoo has filmed 2 dramas and will start her 3rd. They did all this in an year since they were out of YG along with attending variety shows and interviews. YG is the problem!
YG blatantly lie to everyone plus some of toxic blinks too. Exaggerating everything is typical of this situation. They believe everything what they said. Search the main legitimate resources on YG co., their stock went down after bp concert and their grossing is not as high as you think.
C-Clown fits in too. They had regular combacks until Hani's (EXID) fancam went viral. Then the company forgot they had a boysband and only focus on girlsband.
Cube ruined CLC JYP squandered miss A and Wonder Girls YG basically tossed 2NE1 to the side, only for BLACKPINK receive similar treatment SM basically forgot about f(x) let’s also not forget the group Stellar and how they were basically exploited by The Entertainment Pascal
Sabotaging by becoming the biggest gg and most recognisable and famous in the whole world? Tell me you guys know nothing about marketing strategy without telling me you have no knowledge
I definitely know f(x) was. I don’t think they are being treated like Red Velvet, but it was obviously with one comeback a year that SM prioritized Girls’ Generation, Exo, etc. over them. Even the music video for Rum Pum Pum Pum (and a few of Super Junior’s) music videos were made just to be made, because they had white rooms and maybe a different room that had no personality nor relation to the song. And even outside of that, you can tell SM has never tried to make sure the girls get their schedules together (which I feel the remaining members would be ever so kindly to make time) to at least have a comeback by now (especially almost a decade out of the spotlight as a group). Just disappointing.
Actually they got mistreated by ADOR more than HYBE. all other hybe groups are doing well and their own ceo goes on to shame them. They are just brainwashed atp.
i would also add ITZY to this list, ive been a fan scince debut and back in 2019 with their popularity everyone thought they would be the 4th gen leaders but currently it seems like JYPE has just neglected them. from the unfitting concepts to even the quality of their albums and music videos everything has dorpped :(
@superayr when u say u like kpop because of BLACKPINK..u proof ur self are new in kpop..I'm not shocked people like u are minority but so toxic 😉... Majority BLINK are real fan and YG family because we support all YG artist and respect others..
If it wasn't YG there would be no Blackpink, and there strategy worked. They became mega superstar and are progressing. Now they are independent when it comes to their own and that's fine
With the way some of these companies are, you would think they are allergic to money. Like why wouldn't you want to promote or book your artist when they have a strong fanbase.
The fact that Black Pink and Red Velvet were mishandled by their companies will always boggle my mind. Black Pink is huge in spite of YG. Red Velvet never was able to reach their international potential because it seems like SM was actively preventing it. So dumb.
I’m still salty about f(x). I listen to some red velvet songs and I can’t help but imagine it as an f(x) song but less cutesy. Red velvet was definitely treated better than them.
I understand a little for groups that are not making sales. But Blackpink, definitely makes sales and money. There is no reason they are not booked constantly.
I think YG himself just wasn't interested in BP. Even after they became the best selling group on their label. it happened to Lee Hi too. AKMU and Winner. very weird behavior. and the results is the four members leaving YG for independent labels. and staying for the group likely because that company wouldn’t give up the copyright.
What about "Boyfriend", no one talk about them, they were big enough durent their first year, they have tv programs, they even gain a huge ganbase in Japan, the problem, their concept was "Flower boys" in a period when most groups transition to a more mature/hiphop style, but it was actually the ceo idea, i remember reading an article when he said he wanted a flower boys group so he would earn money easily. Over the next few years they went to japan, hell, they recorded a movie there and when they came back they went for a more dark concert later dark fairy tale like concept (the whole Janus, I yah, Witch, Bounce) they started to win, finally during that period, but the company now had a boygruop with another appeal, Monsta X , so they focus on them (no hard feelings), with Boyfriend in the dungeon, asking for anything, a comeback, an album anything, to finally give them one, who people really like, but then, they just disappear, not even japanese promotion, ultil a few years later, when starship just said, well, they decided to not renovate with us, good luck, they are disbanded know. (And then they come back a few years later as BF)
Oh my! SME thinking that there's only 5000 RV fans out globally, and that's why they didn't bother increasing physical album production. Laughable and so disrespectful to the loyal fanbase.
Here's the list that i made of sabotaged(or in mids of it )groups : Everglow Wjsn Gwsn Momoland Lapillus Fromis_9 Gfriend Red velvet ( not too much but SM is sus and why they mistreat RV for some time now for no reason is just 🤔) GOT the beat CLC Lightsum Cherry bullet Weki meki New jeans( especially nowadays what is happening with them only god and HYBE knows ) Cignature And the list goes on😢
@@danielrubinstein896 yeah I really feel bad for them 🤧 no MV for a debut song was just killing me and than the first comeback was after a year and they released the performance of the song before the MV like dumboos and no ads for the comeback too🤨🤬 they cancelled COACHELLA OFFER TOO WHAT!!!?!?!?
About tickets for fans being difficult to get (Red Velvet 8:57), having tried to pre-order tickets for BoA's concert was extremely difficult - so difficult that I couldn't get to pre order. It's likely the same system for Red Velvet.
Just a little side note: Despite their disbandment, the GFRIEND members have maintained a generally positive relationship with their agency, Source Music. If you have read the news, all 6 members of GFRIEND would be reuniting in January of 2025 back under Source Music for a 10th anniversary special project!
uhh they had to change tactics or Babymonster won't be as successful as the previous 2 GGs under YG. Just hate him for what he's done to Blackpink and 2ne1, I'm grateful I'm seeing changes
I guess it was the issue with Teddy. Even if u look at blacklabel, the songs they release are less... Even somi said in some program that it takes a lot of time for a song in the blacklabel company.... Now since teddy left yg for blacklabel and are not producing for bm... Its good tho... Also yg had said last yr that they already hired a large team of producers... So i guess Teddy was also one of the major problems...
BLACKPINK were Teddy’s group. BABYMONSTER are Yang Hyun-Suk’s group. BLACKPINK went to Coachella in 2019 with 14 songs. BAEMON will have about the same number of songs come November 1, 7 months after their official 7-member debut.
Blackpink was sabotaged discography wise in my opinion + lack of award show appearances. As one of the most popular girl groups, They should be having a more diverse discography + they should have more songs in their albums if their releases are less frequent. No these idiots(YGE) thought 8 songs would make a good album. And they could have easily filled the long gap with sub units. They kept pushing Blackpink as fashion icons instead of treating like an artist(They weren't even treated like a typical K-pop artist). These first 7 years were crucial for blackpink for leaving a amazing legacy behind. In terms of achievements they have done it , But as artists , performers and discography wise they could have done more iconic things. Covid was one thing , but YG dungeoned them and prevented them from shining more as musical artists.
What a dumb comment be thankful to yg bc they create black pink and be thankful to their producer teddy if not for him and yg theirs no black pink n the first place use ur brain kid
I'm a new B.A.P fan and not even I can forgive TS mistreatment and abuse to the members. Even after so many years you can see what mental health issues the members are left with after the mistreatment. They still can't use their name B.A.P for the 2024 comeback because TS reclaimed it 😓.
I feel like it’s always been called “the dungeon” when labels don’t promote and prevent their idols from doing anything - like “YG kept 2ne1 in the dungeon for years” “YG kept blackpink in the dungeon refusing to release music for over a year” ….but I think it’s a good metaphor bc it sums it up pretty well, they are being restricted and confined to their company.
im sorry but since when are we even censoring the word violence lmao? are we gonna start blurring out whole sentences soon? its legitimately hard to tell what any of the censored words are most the time + why would you need to censor the word "violence"?
Not having CUBE artists here is a crime in itself but then again you could put every CUBE artist in there. TS entertainments SONAMOO here too..... Everglow or any yuehua kpop artist. Momoland too. WEME was basically abandoned. 2NE1 had to find it through the media that they disbanded they didn't even know. The company basically had no communication for them. Seventeen was sabataged as well multiple times in their early days. When it comes to SM: F(x), Red velvet, Aespa, EXO and NCT were basically sabotaged at some point. Red velvet is currently getting the F(x) treatment. JYP: MISS A, Wondergirls, 2PM, GOT7 they basically gave these groups nothing when they got at their peak and less popular. There was also this group I believe under rains management??? (I'm not sure about this anymore don't qoute me on this)but when he didn't get his way or they got choreo moves wrong too much he would punish his group by cutting shows/promotions. It was a stupid self sabotage thing. I never understood why companies sabotage their own groups or put them in the dungeon. Like I get it if they don't have the money (example: A.C.E and beat interactive have been struggling for years and they're still not there where they should have been, money is tight still, sometimes to the point they had to cut promotions short) but if the company has the money and the group has the popularity why self sabotage or punish the group stupidly? Companies always talk about how they're gonna have the next big group only for that company to put them in the dungeon for no reason other than they didn't reach the million sales they expected in an instant. Wierd way to punish your group and financially strain your own company.
My question is even if the ceo's of the other company makes a group why do they sabotage them when they literally did nothing and just were doing the jobs.
For BP...I guess Teddy was the major issue...Even if u look at blacklabel, the songs they release are less... Even somi said in some program that it takes a lot of time for a song in the blacklabel company.... Now since teddy left yg for blacklabel and are not producing for bm... Its good tho... Also yg had said last yr that they already hired a large team of producers... So i guess Teddy was also one of the major problems...
Yg is being unfair to blackpink he mistreated them iam glad they leaved yg I know how yg is trying hard that babymonster would surpass blackpink sorry monstiez but it's the truth they had gone alot through
@@mais_ha588YG seemed to tried to recreate the lightning in a bottle that BP's debut had. BM was almost BP's name before they debuted. honestly, I think YG doing it on purpose?
YG is hellbent in destroying Blackpink because of 1 Artist. That is LISA. It’s obvious and agreed by world thinkers, scholars and critics that LISA is the one who will thrust BP into global stratosphere. YG refused to let Lisa be managed by anyone else as YG feared other companies will overshadow them. See how LISA is now, the Top 3 global mega hits of Rockstar, where it literally stopped a major street in a major capital city, New Women the rap anthem and Lisa brought a little known Rosalia to be a household name. And now Moonlight Floor where Lisa’s artistry, singing, songwriting skills are on full display. The battle now is which will occupy the top 3 hits on a global stage in 2024. Lisa is also a business women where she brought Celine and Bulgari to a worldwide audience and turned them luxury and now she sets her sites on her boyfriend’s label LVMH. LISa is not the Queen, she is the Empress of Music, Dance and Art.
(Based only on what I’ve seen) I truly believe that if the toxic twitter blinks would’ve tried to focus more on highlighting that BP was being sabotaged by their agency instead of sending r-word and d3@th fantasies for BTS members (to list a few) ARMYs could’ve been a bit more on the same side since BPD has been using BTS as cash cows a lot more obviously now… Blinks and ARMYs joining hands would truly be a force to reckon with 😔
You know that TS stands for "THAT SHITTY" Entertainment right? Yes, still to this day, I never forgive them for what they did to BAP 😒 this is one of the groups that MAYBE JUST MAYBE, they will have a similar success like what BTS did if only THAT SHITTY Entertainment played their cards right 😔
2NE1 should be in the video too. YG literally dropped them at the height of their success to promote BP. In general YG is unable to manage more than one girl group at a time. I honestly don't think we'll get any type of BP comeback as long as BaeMon is successful and making YG enough money to care about their other girlgroup...
I understand blinks being upset, but if you've been around long enough to see what happened to 2NE1 you would understand complaining about ANY sort of advantage 2NE1 has had over Blackpink (as per 5:11) makes ZERO sense, I'm sorry.
Blackpink could've been as big as TWICE but YG fumbled the ball. I think had they stuck to being traditional idols they would've been unbeatable. They have the visuals and charm too ngl... Traditional idols do: - Make comebacks - Do variety shows guestings - Go on radio shows/podcasts - Promote on music shows (even just for a week) - Perform at university music festivals - Put on RUclips mini series content for their fans - Go live with the fans - Concerts - Put out merchandise - Collaborations - Public fan event appearances
very true! and you can tell that they were not at all happy with it because they all left as soon as possible. I think the only reason they’re still connected to YG is because YG refused to hand over the copyright of BLACKPINK.
@@Faceon6790Broo Blackpink literally dominate Korean charts and Global charts with their every comeback..and till the day Blackpink Is no.1 girl group in Korea..a survey conducted between 23 aug-27 aug For category of BIGGEST GIRL GROUP OF 21st Century and Best Group of all time only k netz voted in these categories and Blackpink rank #1 in BEST girl group of all time tied with Girls generation and #1 in BIGGEST girl group of 21 st century(,Twice on something 5th,6th position after groups like 2ne1,Girls generation, Newjeans,aespa😭) obviously this is not enough to prove twice popularity in Korea But I talk about 2024😶
the songs are not even the only issue. and teddy definitely wasn't in charge of the issues like failingnto turn in Lisa's photos on time or taking 3747462 years to release a statement abojt Jennie's injuries.
@@joeblack3623 almost everyone has forgiven Irene and they haven't been in a scandal since, and that complete bullshit. Cause the management problem started since before that even bombed. Not saying she did right but since then she hasn't been in another scandal. An this unforgiven attitude of Koppers has stop.
Sabotaging by becoming the biggest gg and most recognisable and famous in the whole world? Tell me you guys know nothing about marketing strategy without telling me you have no knowledge on kpop.
Not mentioning CLC and EVERGLOW in a video like this is a crime honestly. Both groups had multiple momets to get insanely popular but their companies fumbled ALL of them :(
True that
EVERGLOW is currently on tour. CLC deserved to tour. It's like these companies don't care about earning money for their artists. They just do as little as possible to keep their own paychecks until the next group. 😳
Not mentioning EVERGLOW is the biggest Crime in TERMS of Company Sabotage. They literally deserve love and more attention. They are literally sabotaged by their company most of the time like during the zombie era the company deleted the music 2 times and during their slay era their company delayed the music by 2-3 hours after the release date.
I said it in the past, I'll say it again, f*ck YUEHUA, you had YIREN WANG WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOP VISUAL IN 4TH GENERATION BUT GUESS WHAT YOU F*CK HER UP. WHO YOU HAVE AGAINST YIREN? CAUSE EVEN SULLYOON AND WONYOUNG AND KARINA HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST YIREN THE PRETTIEST IDOL EVERRRR.
STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,,,,
@@himaririku9254??? Not related
@@IkigaiKK0it’s a bot I think
@@himaririku9254unrelated
The way SM sabotaged EXO, Red Velvet and f(x)......
What group hasn’t SM messed up?
not just them
@@angel_t3338 no one
@@angel_t3338 True
@K-Blubberop Exactly....Sm just went after NCT and Aespa.
the truth is BP would have been way more respected by the audience if they had more music as well as content on which people could form an opinion. Cause right now, they get so much hate because of small mistakes that everyone makes but BP lacks the content to overshadows the bad
I’d definitely say it was Miss A, F(x), After School, Wonder Girls and Secret.
After School 🥺😭
All great groups😢
JYP only favor One member of Miss A, maybe what I saw on yt was right about f(x) that they are just a back up group just in case SNSD doesn't work out, SECRET are treated badly, especially when they were new
@@danielrubinstein896that why after miss A, jyp groups members have no solos activities until they renew new contract if they still in company.
@@fythhgg makes sense
CLC! How could you forget CLC?
IKR😤
Stop!! Gfriend was sabotaged as well by their own companies and other companies not just their own. Sabotaging their career!
Gfriend deserve better
do they went money or not
STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,,,,,
You don't fully know that, they haven't spoke on it
@@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine who hurt you?!
@@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine What do you mean? Are you telling me that I don't know fully, what makes you know about me?? I fully know that I know better than u , imagine saying you don't fully know that lol
Where's Everglow??? They were literally sabotaged by their comapany in the peak of their career. Also Gfriend, CLC and even ITZY
stan the artist, not the company.
no matter how good they are to the artist,
sadly, it's a business, at the end of the day.
Stan the arts not the artists.
2NE1's disbandment was one of the biggest disappointment 💔 and they're not even in this list 😂 so saaaad 😢
Knew Red Velvet would be on here, SM treat them so terribly. Hardly and promotional content for comebacks no dance practices, MV reaction videos, hardly and performance videos…. They don’t post any of their achievements meanwhile psycho is SM’s biggest song statistically and they just don’t respect Red Velvet at all.
@@joeblack3623 girl that has nothing to do with nothing that was four years ago the stylist said she’d like to move on and stop speaking on the situation as she and Irene handled it privately and Irene has apologized on multiple occasions. AND most of what I just mentioned has been going on since before the scandal even happened… also Irene still the most popular member of Red Velvet and still is the member bringing in the most revenue from the group with the most engagement, even till now and she’s having a solo debut soon so clearly that has nothing to do with it. This was you trying to throw hate Irene’s way and you didn’t even read what I had to say
What about WJSN? They've been done pretty dirty too. Starship (figuratively) threw them aside like an old toy after debuting IVE. There was also a severe lack of global promotions since debut, it's been 2 years since their last comeback with no news, and only 8 members renewed their contracts with the agency last year (Chinese members left SSE and the group, and Luda and Dawon left SSE). Chinese UJUNGs even sent trucks to SSE just last month, and still no news of the group.
What about Momoland? After losing 3 valuable members, MLD Entertainment treated the group like trash. And also ITZY they haven’t been successful since Cheshire
The fumbling of Got7 still gets me to this day. They could be and should be consistently talked about with groups like BTS, blackpink, etc.
Nobody talks about exo anymore
@@Lalisa_mimi I just edited it but honestly you're right 😭. I love exo so much tho. It just makes me mad when potential and greatness is being mishandled and that's got7 to a T
@@Solokid404 yea! got 7 had so much potential
i would add exo on that list too
You would think JYP would know how to manage and protect his artist since he was once a kpop idol. Itzy was also sabotaged. If JYP did not promate sneakers as a royal concept maybe it wouldve been better. And Vcha? What happened to then. Their latest video was from 6 months ago
I think sneakers are just a preference because knetz love that... For VCHA, I think JYP wants to change their image, because it's a matter of preference again... The Western doesn't like the "micky mouse house club" type song even though they are literally teenagers, But western audiences love songs that have more mature themes, even teenagers prefer songs with that themes
Itzy went downhill as the years go by
YG really did Blackpink dirty. The whole close to 17 million in album sales, the 2022-23 tour that is the highest grossing K Pop tour of all time with 281 million in ticket sales, 13 billion streams on Spotify alone, 5 videos on RUclips with over a billion views... Yeah that lack of variety shows appearances really hurt their career and caused them to suffer 🙄🙄🙄🙄
331 million $ bro
Most viewed Music Artist on the planet
😂😂😂😂…you all keep exaggerating everything, where’s the proof of that except YG as the biggest liar in the company feeding you all with lie. Try search what exactly written in the company, then you know what is the truth.
And this has nothing to do with YG. Lisa's songs ROCKSTAR and New Woman have been equally successful if not more. She has performed on VMAS, Global Citizen festival and will now perform on Victoria’s secret fashion show.
Jennie is now the kpop female soloist with the most streamed song on spotify. Jennie also holds the record of the most monthly listeners on Spotify by a kpop female act surpassing BLACKPINK. She is #1 since January.
Rosie is releasing an album this December.
Jisoo has filmed 2 dramas and will start her 3rd.
They did all this in an year since they were out of YG along with attending variety shows and interviews.
YG is the problem!
YG blatantly lie to everyone plus some of toxic blinks too. Exaggerating everything is typical of this situation. They believe everything what they said. Search the main legitimate resources on YG co., their stock went down after bp concert and their grossing is not as high as you think.
You could easily say the same thing about EXO, I mean a 12 year old group that has been active for 6 years.
C-Clown fits in too. They had regular combacks until Hani's (EXID) fancam went viral. Then the company forgot they had a boysband and only focus on girlsband.
Cube ruined CLC
JYP squandered miss A and Wonder Girls
YG basically tossed 2NE1 to the side, only for BLACKPINK receive similar treatment
SM basically forgot about f(x)
let’s also not forget the group Stellar and how they were basically exploited by The Entertainment Pascal
When even BLACKPINK is on this list, you know it's bad...💀 😭
STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP
@@himaririku9254yes but this is about blackpink so praise them somewhere else..
@@leonadabirbu both are dreaming 😚
They are not
Sabotaging by becoming the biggest gg and most recognisable and famous in the whole world? Tell me you guys know nothing about marketing strategy without telling me you have no knowledge
EXO's case is almost similar
YG always do this, they want their idols to have the "Exclusive" Image, they need to stop Immediately
I definitely know f(x) was. I don’t think they are being treated like Red Velvet, but it was obviously with one comeback a year that SM prioritized Girls’ Generation, Exo, etc. over them. Even the music video for Rum Pum Pum Pum (and a few of Super Junior’s) music videos were made just to be made, because they had white rooms and maybe a different room that had no personality nor relation to the song. And even outside of that, you can tell SM has never tried to make sure the girls get their schedules together (which I feel the remaining members would be ever so kindly to make time) to at least have a comeback by now (especially almost a decade out of the spotlight as a group). Just disappointing.
New Jeans: HOLD MY BEER
Actually they got mistreated by ADOR more than HYBE. all other hybe groups are doing well and their own ceo goes on to shame them. They are just brainwashed atp.
i would also add ITZY to this list, ive been a fan scince debut and back in 2019 with their popularity everyone thought they would be the 4th gen leaders but currently it seems like JYPE has just neglected them. from the unfitting concepts to even the quality of their albums and music videos everything has dorpped :(
It's really heart broken to see BLACKPINK go through all these 😢......yg don't deserve BLACKPINK
I’m grateful they succeeded despite all of it
The truth is BLACKPINK need YG...
@superayr when u say u like kpop because of BLACKPINK..u proof ur self are new in kpop..I'm not shocked people like u are minority but so toxic 😉... Majority BLINK are real fan and YG family because we support all YG artist and respect others..
If it wasn't YG there would be no Blackpink, and there strategy worked. They became mega superstar and are progressing. Now they are independent when it comes to their own and that's fine
With the way some of these companies are, you would think they are allergic to money. Like why wouldn't you want to promote or book your artist when they have a strong fanbase.
The fact that Black Pink and Red Velvet were mishandled by their companies will always boggle my mind. Black Pink is huge in spite of YG. Red Velvet never was able to reach their international potential because it seems like SM was actively preventing it. So dumb.
JYP is currently doing the same thing to VCHA !
I hate how sm treats red velvet
I’m still salty about f(x). I listen to some red velvet songs and I can’t help but imagine it as an f(x) song but less cutesy. Red velvet was definitely treated better than them.
I understand a little for groups that are not making sales. But Blackpink, definitely makes sales and money. There is no reason they are not booked constantly.
YG loves to drop music, not to meet fan’s demands.
But blackpink lost too many opportunities because if yg whether it's for collaboration, releasing music or their artistic freedom.
I think YG himself just wasn't interested in BP. Even after they became the best selling group on their label. it happened to Lee Hi too. AKMU and Winner. very weird behavior.
and the results is the four members leaving YG for independent labels. and staying for the group likely because that company wouldn’t give up the copyright.
Bro you need make part 2 and talk about ITZY & Gfriend & Everglow & Enhypen
What about "Boyfriend", no one talk about them, they were big enough durent their first year, they have tv programs, they even gain a huge ganbase in Japan, the problem, their concept was "Flower boys" in a period when most groups transition to a more mature/hiphop style, but it was actually the ceo idea, i remember reading an article when he said he wanted a flower boys group so he would earn money easily. Over the next few years they went to japan, hell, they recorded a movie there and when they came back they went for a more dark concert later dark fairy tale like concept (the whole Janus, I yah, Witch, Bounce) they started to win, finally during that period, but the company now had a boygruop with another appeal, Monsta X , so they focus on them (no hard feelings), with Boyfriend in the dungeon, asking for anything, a comeback, an album anything, to finally give them one, who people really like, but then, they just disappear, not even japanese promotion, ultil a few years later, when starship just said, well, they decided to not renovate with us, good luck, they are disbanded know.
(And then they come back a few years later as BF)
F(x) & EXO 2 unique group in kpop talent & music wise really sabotage by SM & kpop industry.
Everglow deserves a full Album and a LightStick 💛😭😭
Yeah some company just sabotage because of their greediness
Oh my! SME thinking that there's only 5000 RV fans out globally, and that's why they didn't bother increasing physical album production. Laughable and so disrespectful to the loyal fanbase.
Red velvet should be doing the same size world tours as blackpink and twice
Not mentioning Lovelyz and GFriend is crazy...
And also IKON
Here's the list that i made of sabotaged(or in mids of it )groups :
Everglow
Wjsn
Gwsn
Momoland
Lapillus
Fromis_9
Gfriend
Red velvet ( not too much but SM is sus and why they mistreat RV for some time now for no reason is just 🤔)
GOT the beat
CLC
Lightsum
Cherry bullet
Weki meki
New jeans( especially nowadays what is happening with them only god and HYBE knows )
Cignature
And the list goes on😢
GOT THE BEAT was a wasted potential
@@danielrubinstein896 yeah I really feel bad for them 🤧 no MV for a debut song was just killing me and than the first comeback was after a year and they released the performance of the song before the MV like dumboos and no ads for the comeback too🤨🤬 they cancelled COACHELLA OFFER TOO WHAT!!!?!?!?
gugudan
@@qwervbnm9320 true 🤧
New Jean's shouldn't be their, it is them being toxic not HYBE, especially for Min Hee Jin, the brain washing is unreal
About tickets for fans being difficult to get (Red Velvet 8:57), having tried to pre-order tickets for BoA's concert was extremely difficult - so difficult that I couldn't get to pre order. It's likely the same system for Red Velvet.
Missing Gfriend on the list. Until now no explanation why they were “disbanded”
Just a little side note: Despite their disbandment, the GFRIEND members have maintained a generally positive relationship with their agency, Source Music. If you have read the news, all 6 members of GFRIEND would be reuniting in January of 2025 back under Source Music for a 10th anniversary special project!
@@kennethdaluz2526 Gil don't mind them they're a bot or hybe ass
Not sure how many would say this but, I would be Pentagon in this 🤷🏻♀️
B.A.P got f'd so bad.
It took Blackpink like 3 AND A HALF YEARS to have 20 songs
But it took babymonster HALF A YEAR
Its nit babymonsters or blackpinks fault its all ygs
uhh they had to change tactics or Babymonster won't be as successful as the previous 2 GGs under YG. Just hate him for what he's done to Blackpink and 2ne1, I'm grateful I'm seeing changes
I guess it was the issue with Teddy. Even if u look at blacklabel, the songs they release are less... Even somi said in some program that it takes a lot of time for a song in the blacklabel company....
Now since teddy left yg for blacklabel and are not producing for bm... Its good tho... Also yg had said last yr that they already hired a large team of producers... So i guess Teddy was also one of the major problems...
BLACKPINK were Teddy’s group. BABYMONSTER are Yang Hyun-Suk’s group. BLACKPINK went to Coachella in 2019 with 14 songs. BAEMON will have about the same number of songs come November 1, 7 months after their official 7-member debut.
Fr 💯
Please make a part 2 with Exo. They didn’t deserve the continued neglect and maltreatment from SM and also wtf was up with 2017 MAMA…
Blackpink was sabotaged discography wise in my opinion + lack of award show appearances. As one of the most popular girl groups, They should be having a more diverse discography + they should have more songs in their albums if their releases are less frequent. No these idiots(YGE) thought 8 songs would make a good album. And they could have easily filled the long gap with sub units. They kept pushing Blackpink as fashion icons instead of treating like an artist(They weren't even treated like a typical K-pop artist). These first 7 years were crucial for blackpink for leaving a amazing legacy behind. In terms of achievements they have done it , But as artists , performers and discography wise they could have done more iconic things. Covid was one thing , but YG dungeoned them and prevented them from shining more as musical artists.
What a dumb comment be thankful to yg bc they create black pink and be thankful to their producer teddy if not for him and yg theirs no black pink n the first place use ur brain kid
@AvinashGupta-d2i They probably had more options to choose from, but YG executives played a role in limiting their options and playing it safe
The master is always insecure of its subordinates rising heft, popularity and influence.
Gfriend too
PRISTIN is my Bias on this List.
I'm a new B.A.P fan and not even I can forgive TS mistreatment and abuse to the members. Even after so many years you can see what mental health issues the members are left with after the mistreatment. They still can't use their name B.A.P for the 2024 comeback because TS reclaimed it 😓.
0:46 They were left where exactly? interesting choice of words, most definitely.
I feel like it’s always been called “the dungeon” when labels don’t promote and prevent their idols from doing anything - like “YG kept 2ne1 in the dungeon for years” “YG kept blackpink in the dungeon refusing to release music for over a year” ….but I think it’s a good metaphor bc it sums it up pretty well, they are being restricted and confined to their company.
Wow ur English is so good lol
im sorry but since when are we even censoring the word violence lmao? are we gonna start blurring out whole sentences soon? its legitimately hard to tell what any of the censored words are most the time + why would you need to censor the word "violence"?
Not having CUBE artists here is a crime in itself but then again you could put every CUBE artist in there. TS entertainments SONAMOO here too..... Everglow or any yuehua kpop artist. Momoland too. WEME was basically abandoned. 2NE1 had to find it through the media that they disbanded they didn't even know. The company basically had no communication for them. Seventeen was sabataged as well multiple times in their early days. When it comes to SM: F(x), Red velvet, Aespa, EXO and NCT were basically sabotaged at some point. Red velvet is currently getting the F(x) treatment. JYP: MISS A, Wondergirls, 2PM, GOT7 they basically gave these groups nothing when they got at their peak and less popular.
There was also this group I believe under rains management??? (I'm not sure about this anymore don't qoute me on this)but when he didn't get his way or they got choreo moves wrong too much he would punish his group by cutting shows/promotions. It was a stupid self sabotage thing.
I never understood why companies sabotage their own groups or put them in the dungeon. Like I get it if they don't have the money (example: A.C.E and beat interactive have been struggling for years and they're still not there where they should have been, money is tight still, sometimes to the point they had to cut promotions short) but if the company has the money and the group has the popularity why self sabotage or punish the group stupidly?
Companies always talk about how they're gonna have the next big group only for that company to put them in the dungeon for no reason other than they didn't reach the million sales they expected in an instant. Wierd way to punish your group and financially strain your own company.
i really think astro and weki meki should be on this list too :(
I miss Weki Meki😢
My question is even if the ceo's of the other company makes a group why do they sabotage them when they literally did nothing and just were doing the jobs.
For BP...I guess Teddy was the major issue...Even if u look at blacklabel, the songs they release are less... Even somi said in some program that it takes a lot of time for a song in the blacklabel company....
Now since teddy left yg for blacklabel and are not producing for bm... Its good tho... Also yg had said last yr that they already hired a large team of producers... So i guess Teddy was also one of the major problems...
7:03 the words I never thought I'd hear, but SO REAL!!
Everglow was so sad like my bias
Thanks to the Sponsor of this video: HYBE
GOT7 would be here i knew 🥺
Blackpink even got bad seniors!! They don’t like them and are jealous because pinks got more famous than them.
Are you talking about 2NE1?
Really bad take
No one from YG is jealous of them.
@davidwong6682 yes, cl shaded jennie in 2018 & top( big bang ) shaded blackpink too
@@SamEricLlort only some*
Yg is being unfair to blackpink he mistreated them iam glad they leaved yg I know how yg is trying hard that babymonster would surpass blackpink sorry monstiez but it's the truth they had gone alot through
Blackpink is blackpink, babymonster is babymonster. Why are u comparing them
@@mais_ha588YG seemed to tried to recreate the lightning in a bottle that BP's debut had. BM was almost BP's name before they debuted. honestly, I think YG doing it on purpose?
But the truth is they never surpass blackpink
TS entertainment shut down for being such a horrible company
YG is hellbent in destroying Blackpink because of 1 Artist. That is LISA. It’s obvious and agreed by world thinkers, scholars and critics that LISA is the one who will thrust BP into global stratosphere. YG refused to let Lisa be managed by anyone else as YG feared other companies will overshadow them. See how LISA is now, the Top 3 global mega hits of Rockstar, where it literally stopped a major street in a major capital city, New Women the rap anthem and Lisa brought a little known Rosalia to be a household name. And now Moonlight Floor where Lisa’s artistry, singing, songwriting skills are on full display. The battle now is which will occupy the top 3 hits on a global stage in 2024. Lisa is also a business women where she brought Celine and Bulgari to a worldwide audience and turned them luxury and now she sets her sites on her boyfriend’s label LVMH. LISa is not the Queen, she is the Empress of Music, Dance and Art.
You should've mentioned GWSN and gugudan
(Based only on what I’ve seen) I truly believe that if the toxic twitter blinks would’ve tried to focus more on highlighting that BP was being sabotaged by their agency instead of sending r-word and d3@th fantasies for BTS members (to list a few) ARMYs could’ve been a bit more on the same side since BPD has been using BTS as cash cows a lot more obviously now…
Blinks and ARMYs joining hands would truly be a force to reckon with 😔
Joy is same with vcha we haven’t heard nothing about since then , and people are suspicious that they will disband
Umm…have we all forgotten about LOONA?!
Why EXO is not here?
Lets not forget TRCNG too 😢
Momoland not mentioned 😢
You know that TS stands for "THAT SHITTY" Entertainment right? Yes, still to this day, I never forgive them for what they did to BAP 😒 this is one of the groups that MAYBE JUST MAYBE, they will have a similar success like what BTS did if only THAT SHITTY Entertainment played their cards right 😔
Don't forget how SM F**K over FX. SM long history of Sabotage >Jessica
You should include Pentagon
Wait so Blackpink not having a lot of songs or having extra content was because of the company?
F(x) could be on this list
What about Gfriend?
Yes! Great video!
Yg only needs blackpink for money!
2NE1 should be in the video too. YG literally dropped them at the height of their success to promote BP. In general YG is unable to manage more than one girl group at a time. I honestly don't think we'll get any type of BP comeback as long as BaeMon is successful and making YG enough money to care about their other girlgroup...
Vcha now too 😢
Lisa with blackpink!!! YG sabotage her so bad
I understand blinks being upset, but if you've been around long enough to see what happened to 2NE1 you would understand complaining about ANY sort of advantage 2NE1 has had over Blackpink (as per 5:11) makes ZERO sense, I'm sorry.
Blackpink could've been as big as TWICE but YG fumbled the ball. I think had they stuck to being traditional idols they would've been unbeatable. They have the visuals and charm too ngl...
Traditional idols do:
- Make comebacks
- Do variety shows guestings
- Go on radio shows/podcasts
- Promote on music shows (even just for a week)
- Perform at university music festivals
- Put on RUclips mini series content for their fans
- Go live with the fans
- Concerts
- Put out merchandise
- Collaborations
- Public fan event appearances
Blackpink is bigger than twice through
@@mais_ha588Not in Korea.
very true! and you can tell that they were not at all happy with it because they all left as soon as possible. I think the only reason they’re still connected to YG is because YG refused to hand over the copyright of BLACKPINK.
@@Faceon6790Broo Blackpink literally dominate Korean charts and Global charts with their every comeback..and till the day Blackpink Is no.1 girl group in Korea..a survey conducted between 23 aug-27 aug For category of BIGGEST GIRL GROUP OF 21st Century and Best Group of all time only k netz voted in these categories and Blackpink rank #1 in BEST girl group of all time tied with Girls generation and #1 in BIGGEST girl group of 21 st century(,Twice on something 5th,6th position after groups like 2ne1,Girls generation, Newjeans,aespa😭) obviously this is not enough to prove twice popularity in Korea But I talk about 2024😶
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It's not YG's fault mainly in the case of Blackpink. It's teddy's fault for not giving them more songs
the songs are not even the only issue. and teddy definitely wasn't in charge of the issues like failingnto turn in Lisa's photos on time or taking 3747462 years to release a statement abojt Jennie's injuries.
@@openjoistt I am talking about music not statements
BTS the one and only global worldwide is so lucky to have BigHit that takes care of them so much
when you can tell they doing it annoyed
Sheer incompetence or ulterior motives?
Lit Cosmic Love didnt due any promotion what so ever.
SM show more love to Red Velvet
@@joeblack3623 almost everyone has forgiven Irene and they haven't been in a scandal since, and that complete bullshit.
Cause the management problem started since before that even bombed.
Not saying she did right but since then she hasn't been in another scandal. An this unforgiven attitude of Koppers has stop.
Sabotaging by becoming the biggest gg and most recognisable and famous in the whole world? Tell me you guys know nothing about marketing strategy without telling me you have no knowledge on kpop.
and is happening again
Scuse me PRISTIN debuted in 2017 not 2016
Can you make a VDO of Jennie's new song mantra??I just want to hear your review..
iKON shouldve been here too imo
Red velvet ❤❤❤
Victon and MY.st should be on this list. MY.st is absolutely heartbreaking. It's sad when companies can't treat people properly.