@@Ministry_0f_TruthSorry about my late reply. Some known problems: - Failing glow plug module - High contamination in the intake from EGR - Engine mounts wearing quickly - Head gaskets needing replacement usually after 250k-350k km Other than that, a very reliable engine on the whole. I don't know much about the reliability of the 4.2 TDI, but I do know that the timing chain is located at the rear of the engine. I.e. the whole transmission needs to be removed from the engine, and the engine removed from the car, to replace 😅
What an insane car!! I love everything about it. It sounds awesome,its fast,it has more than 1000 nm torque,sounds like an AMG but way more economical,7G gearbox,the facelift version of the w211 (nicer interior also) and very very rare.The only bad thing is that is very heavy and I would also fit a roof spoiler (I just love them on e-class) but that is just me... Bkorven,I subscribed for more videos :)
I absolutely love this car and I'm so jealous we never got the 420cdi in the UK (only in the ml). If we did there'd be on one my driveway now instead of the e350cdi.
Hi bkorven, I have to say you have an amazing V8 machine! Love the sound! I drive C30 AMG (stock) and I am wondering if u would advice any mods to increase the power and sound or rather keep it in an original state. Regards Lukas
Thank you! Wow, a C30 CDI AMG, nice. Does it come with a DPF? If so, I would personally replace it with straight piping and then remap the ECU. That should improve your exhaust sound, but it would also make you able to make more power, since the DPF is quite restrictive to exhaust flow. You should probably be able to put out around 300bhp, with DPF delete and a proper ECU-software. Just make sure you have the needed software at hand, before you delete the DPF.
If you keep the stock exhaust system in one piece you can easily swap back to it again. And the ECU-software can be restored to default at any time as well.
Lucifero Caduto Having the gear set in C or S won't make a very big difference(rather have it in S for more easily keeping lower gears), but in order to have full acess of the power going to the wheels you need to put the car into "Dyno Mode", which will fully turn off all electronic assistance including ESP. Then it's just hit it and go :) Even if you click the "ESP off" button at the center console, ESP won't be fully turned off. One won't be able to make a proper burnout.
Lucifero Caduto You must enter "Dyno Mode". If you have a W211 like me, you do this by clicking the "reset button" 3 times quickly, with the engine off and the key turned to first position. That will open a hidden meny, where you can scroll with the arrows on your steering wheel down to something like "ESP dynometer test". Toggle on/off with +/- on the steering wheel. Remember to turn off "dyno mode" manually, settings won't reset by restarting the car.
I just bought e270 with 145kkm 1 previos owner (old lady) and i like the sound of R5 engine sure it is not monster e420 like you have but maybe you know what can I tune on my e270? I mean ecu tunning to get little more HP and something to make car sound better?
@@johnmccready-pc3br I see! Interesting , for sure. This car should definitely have an open diff, considering not even AMG-models have LSD unless ordered with a specific "performance package". 350 CDI is likely slightly better on fuel economy. But it is missing 2 cylinders 😉
As for the 7G-tronic I heard about some upgrades available for them to increase their performance and better handle higher levels of torque and power...for example Weistec Engineering is a company which offers many improvements for Mercs in general but their TCU upgrade and so called "bullet proof" transmission really caught up my attention. What do you thing of them( in general ,Weistec was only an example) or have you ever considered as a future investment? I ask you because your E-class really pushes to extreme the 7G with it's truck-like torque values :))
Reinforcing the transmission does sound like a reasonable mod with this amount of torque, but to my surprise the transmission is handling it perfectly fine. I've been driving at this stage for a long time and for a long distance, there are no signs of harm. My TCU-software is upgraded(by Kleemann), but I'm not able now to tell the difference in performance, I didn't really pay attention right at the moment and it's been a long time since. Hehe yeah I've really stretched the limits on this gearbox!
hahaha fan vad nice! vettefan om jag ska köra dock på strippen haha. men jag kommer till 100 % befinna mig på strippen för att checka in din och farsans bil :)
As far as I know it should have an open differential on it, as it is now, stock. Surprisingly it seems both wheels were spinning all of the time during this burnout. I have planned for an LSD in the near future though!
Bro can you tell me what I need to be carefull buying e420? I want to buy one from second owner with 330kkm car on pictures looks very very clean can you give me some advice please? Thanks
Check if the head gaskets has been changed. I haven't had any problems myself, but have heard failing head gaskets to be common with higher milage. Take it for a proper test drive, and note the coolant level before and after. Smell the coolant expansion tank, if you don't mind being a little weird 😂 A smell of fuel is a sign of failing head gasket. Otherwise I'd just check the overall condition of the car. I don't know of alot of problems with these engines.
Hi! This exhaust system was built by Kleemann(in their workshop at their headquarter) as a one-off, after my wishes. The cost, labor included, was a little over €1500 if I remember correctly. A close to identical exhaust system can likely be built at a local shop close to where you're at in Germany, Jüterbog or Malterdingen(or go to Denmark). Give Kleemann a call or send them a mail for details. Thanks for your comment!
The milage on mine is about 200k km, and the reliability has for me proven to be excellent. Apparently, failing head gasket seems to be a common issue for engines with high milage. Otherwise I haven't heard much bad stuff myself! The OM628(predecessor), on the other hand, is rather infamous for its problems. Is there a chance you have the two mixed up?
Hi bkorven... Really nice car I love it... I would like to buy one and I wanted to ask you some specs about it, if you had any type of issues and what to be bewarn of Thank you
Hi! Thank you! This is hard to give a short answer to, so warning for a long reply! I will paste a little from a previous reply by me to someone with a similar set of questions. The car has been more or less free from issues. The biggest issue that has happened with this car was when AirMatic failed. One of the air cushions lost pressure, and that was very pricy to fix. Has happened to this car once (during the last 13 years). Another periodic issue, although a much lesser one, is the cylinder pre-heat system acting up. Sometimes the glow plug indicator light comes on, and sometimes it dissappears again. It just means cold starts are sometimes a bit rough, and the problem should not be hard to fix. This seems to be a common issue with these engines. Another thing good to know is that these engines are infamous for having the intake manifold and intake ports severely contaminated by soot, that sticks to the surfaces. This seems to be unavoidable with the EGR in operation. An EGR delete will prevent this problem. All in all, this car has been very reliable, and I love it! Milage just passed 200k km. When buying one I'd say try to look after what options you personally value. These cars could come with many different extra options/specs from factory. Panoramic roof, for example, is a rare but very nice option some of these came with. Paddle shifters is another very rare but also (to me) nice option. Avantgarde? Sport package? Harman/Kardon extended sound system? There are some stuff to consider, as I mentioned.
eftersom du har 285 bak och 255 där fram så vore det rimligt att fälgarna fram är 8,5 tum breda och 9,5 tum breda där bak. Jag vet detta eftersom jag har samma uppsättning på min bil, förutsatt att mina är amg fälgar från nyaste csl. Återigen ett monsterbil du har, väntar nu ett möte på sommaren där vi kan ta en titt på varandras bilar :)
Ja den bredden stämmer nog! Tack, det är härligt att höra att du diggar den! Både jag och farsan(med sin CLS63) ska köra på strippen den 26/4 är det tänkt, nu i helgen som kommer. Kanske vi kan ses där! Vi kan också mötas up innan i närheten i så fall, och glida dit tillsammans. 40kr inträde (+ 100kr för att köra).
Hi! It has been very reliable, but I've started to see some signs of aging. The charge regulator and the glow plug module needs replacing. While I was at it, I found that the intake was heavily contaminated with soot. I'll clean everything thoroughly and delete the EGR, and that problem should never occur again! All in all, again, it has been super reliable, and will soon be out on the roads again.
Hi bro , I have an w211 e320cdi, full decat, fap off, straight pipes, but she has 270 000km, do you know if I will have problems if I go on a dyno mode with her ? thanks a lot
+The S.symptom Yo. Just entering Dyno Mode couldn't do any harm, no. But if you plan to do a massive burnout in Dyno Mode, and that's why you're asking about Dyno Mode, well, that would be wearing on the car to some degree ofcourse hehe! A little stressful on the engine and gearbox, sure, but I don't think you'll have any problems other than your rear tires being a little worn!
Tja, Det här är vinterdäcken, 255mm breda runtom. Ja de är monterade på 18" AMG 22-ekrars(som kan sitta original på SL55/CLS55/SLK55). Är inte 100 på vilken bredd fälgarna har, 10.5" är kanske rimligt? Har för mig dessa är Pirelli, ja. Sommardäcken är 285mm bak(255 fram) Michelin Pilot Sport, på 19" CLK Black Series fälgar. Och de är väl 10,5" fram och 11,5" bak gissar jag. Kanske är helt ute o cyklar angående fälgarnas bredd.
@@xxbeastxx9671 Okay! It will probably smoke if you delete the DPF, but it doesnt necessarily have to! A good software can actually make it not smoke at all without DPF.
@@xxbeastxx9671 A very good option is to have someone local make an individual remap for your engine. Otherwise I would always recommend Kleemann, and their ECU-tuning.
@@JedemPoKucama Well, I've had to replace the oil every now and then 😁 No, but one system that has failed for me is the ignition pre-heating. The glow plug indicator is on. Other than that, I can't remember there has been a single engine problem.
I only hace one question, and I'm not trying to be mean... but what's the point of having a diesel if u are going to tune it like you do? anyway, your car looks awesome and also does ur pipe sound... but shouldn't it be better just getting a petrol engine?
It's a good question ;) But there's no short answer to it... Yeah most people would not choose diesel for performance, and that's probably mainly because they just don't associate diesel with performance. Also, most people are obviously determined that their diesel powered car could never have exciting exhaust sound. Absolutely not true :D Would it be better to get the equivalent petrol engine over this diesel engine? That would be the E500 5.0 N/A V8. It has got 388hp/530nm, and should be faster than a stock E420 CDI(314hp/730nm). With a simple chiptune/software upgrade only, the power of the 420 CDI easily rises to 370hp, while not much would be gained with the 500, perhaps another 10-15hp. Add proper exhaust mods to both cars and they can now be expected to have about the same amount of power, somewhere around 410-420hp. Thing is though, with 414hp as I have in my E420 CDI, I can still get as low consumption as 7L/100km, while cruising gently. I don't think even a stock E500 could be close to that. So with the tuning I've done I get loads of power, a nice growly exhaust sound, and unchanged or perhaps even improved consumption on long distance trips. You could hear the potential in exhaust sound of this car when it was stock, but it was soooo quiet! Now do you see the point of the tuning I've done? This 420 CDI is perfect for tuning! And this is not just any diesel engine, I don't know what you're compairing it to, but I wouldn't bother tune a dull 4-cyl diesel engine. Another very crucial point is the power band. The E500 does not feel quick at all (in comparisson to the E420 CDI) unless you keep the engine over 4.5k rpm. It's a short power band, so that's where you'll want it if you want the most out of the engine. With the E420 CDI it does not really matter if you're at 3k rpm or 1.5k rpm, you'll be surprised! It has a very wide usable power band. In other words, since you don't do kickdowns all the time in the real world street driving, an E420 CDI feels much quicker, if you see what I mean. Such brutal force. The E500 has more tuning options on the after market though, since it's more popular. There are for example complete supercharger conversion kits! But one thing I highly value with the E420 CDI is that it's so uncommon. I could go on... Anyways, my whole point is, It's not as easy as just to say it would be better to get a petrol engine. There are pros and cons. Sometimes it's just a matter of preference.
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This car sounds like Lucifer itself. One of my favorite diesel cars. I am in love with that growling sound it sounds like cls amg.
Thank you very much!
@@bkorven How reliable or unreliable is this engine? Is it better than Audi 4.2 TDI?
@@Ministry_0f_TruthSorry about my late reply.
Some known problems:
- Failing glow plug module
- High contamination in the intake from EGR
- Engine mounts wearing quickly
- Head gaskets needing replacement usually after 250k-350k km
Other than that, a very reliable engine on the whole. I don't know much about the reliability of the 4.2 TDI, but I do know that the timing chain is located at the rear of the engine. I.e. the whole transmission needs to be removed from the engine, and the engine removed from the car, to replace 😅
I never knew Mercedes used to make V8 diesels😅 but here i am, enjoying your video 7 years too late
Damn, I am not the only one that is thinking about a diesel v8 mercedes at this time
@@donxhino6378 This engine is ticking time bomb.
@@Cribs00 Isn't that the OM628? This one is the 629
That thing shreds tires better than a c63 lmao
414hp and 1005nm...diesels
Yeah over 1000Nm torque seems to help :D
The Idle sounds very evil 😎
Sounds cool!! Wish we got them in the states
What an insane car!! I love everything about it. It sounds awesome,its fast,it has more than 1000 nm torque,sounds like an AMG but way more economical,7G gearbox,the facelift version of the w211 (nicer interior also) and very very rare.The only bad thing is that is very heavy and I would also fit a roof spoiler (I just love them on e-class) but that is just me... Bkorven,I subscribed for more videos :)
***** Ah, thank you for those warming words ;) More videos I'll give you!
I absolutely love this car and I'm so jealous we never got the 420cdi in the UK (only in the ml). If we did there'd be on one my driveway now instead of the e350cdi.
Thank you! Yeah, that's a shame, really.
I like the color
That is champagne gold
I had E320 V6 before with same color
Thank you! The color code is "043 Designo Chablis".
I cant find word to describe this car!!! Best car ever!!
Thanks alot for those words! Great to hear.
Your (E420) videos are awesome!
Suleyman Durmus Thanks alot, glad you enjoy!
it doesnt get better than this
Hi bkorven, I have to say you have an amazing V8 machine! Love the sound! I drive C30 AMG (stock) and I am wondering if u would advice any mods to increase the power and sound or rather keep it in an original state. Regards Lukas
Thank you! Wow, a C30 CDI AMG, nice. Does it come with a DPF? If so, I would personally replace it with straight piping and then remap the ECU. That should improve your exhaust sound, but it would also make you able to make more power, since the DPF is quite restrictive to exhaust flow.
You should probably be able to put out around 300bhp, with DPF delete and a proper ECU-software. Just make sure you have the needed software at hand, before you delete the DPF.
If you keep the stock exhaust system in one piece you can easily swap back to it again. And the ECU-software can be restored to default at any time as well.
Lucifero Caduto Having the gear set in C or S won't make a very big difference(rather have it in S for more easily keeping lower gears), but in order to have full acess of the power going to the wheels you need to put the car into "Dyno Mode", which will fully turn off all electronic assistance including ESP. Then it's just hit it and go :)
Even if you click the "ESP off" button at the center console, ESP won't be fully turned off. One won't be able to make a proper burnout.
I had the dubious .... even the drift are 'controlled' by the ECU and void. But there is a way to deprive the ESP completely?
Lucifero Caduto You must enter "Dyno Mode". If you have a W211 like me, you do this by clicking the "reset button" 3 times quickly, with the engine off and the key turned to first position. That will open a hidden meny, where you can scroll with the arrows on your steering wheel down to something like "ESP dynometer test". Toggle on/off with +/- on the steering wheel.
Remember to turn off "dyno mode" manually, settings won't reset by restarting the car.
tnx , i know
this car is a motivation for me !!!
Lucifero Caduto Love hearing that! Keep on going with yours :D
I just bought e270 with 145kkm 1 previos owner (old lady) and i like the sound of R5 engine sure it is not monster e420 like you have but maybe you know what can I tune on my e270? I mean ecu tunning to get little more HP and something to make car sound better?
Awsome😃
this car is awesome, good to learn about the E420 CDI. have you installed a limited slip differential in this yet?
Thank you! No, actually I haven't.
@@bkorvenlooks like both wheels are spinning
@@johnmccready-pc3br They are! But as far as I know, this model did not come with limited slip differential from factory.
@@bkorvenI'm not sure m8. My 335d was open diff. Crazy as it was nearly 800nm. I want an ml 420cdi I think. But I c the 350cdi way better on fuel
@@johnmccready-pc3br I see! Interesting , for sure. This car should definitely have an open diff, considering not even AMG-models have LSD unless ordered with a specific "performance package". 350 CDI is likely slightly better on fuel economy. But it is missing 2 cylinders 😉
As for the 7G-tronic I heard about some upgrades available for them to increase their performance and better handle higher levels of torque and power...for example Weistec Engineering is a company which offers many improvements for Mercs in general but their TCU upgrade and so called "bullet proof" transmission really caught up my attention. What do you thing of them( in general ,Weistec was only an example) or have you ever considered as a future investment? I ask you because your E-class really pushes to extreme the 7G with it's truck-like torque values :))
Reinforcing the transmission does sound like a reasonable mod with this amount of torque, but to my surprise the transmission is handling it perfectly fine. I've been driving at this stage for a long time and for a long distance, there are no signs of harm. My TCU-software is upgraded(by Kleemann), but I'm not able now to tell the difference in performance, I didn't really pay attention right at the moment and it's been a long time since. Hehe yeah I've really stretched the limits on this gearbox!
Is this cloud diesel exhaust or tires smoke?
hahaha fan vad nice! vettefan om jag ska köra dock på strippen haha. men jag kommer till 100 % befinna mig på strippen för att checka in din och farsans bil :)
Serious question, how many powersteering pumps have you changed doing burnouts?
Haha, it's not like I do burnouts everyday. The pump has never been replaced.
hi my friend ... how do set gear C or S and how do i drive for bornout?
Its nice that after those tunings you can still drive 600 000 km with that car without problems i bet.
Aleksi It's been reliable so far! Roughly 60 000 km with this tuning now, and no signs of problems. Not quite 600 000 yet, but we'll get there ;)
bkorven Yeah diesel w211 is a great car!
Do you put an LSD on it ? Or did it come stock ?
Or is it just a ''mode'' that allows both wheels to spin at the same time ?
As far as I know it should have an open differential on it, as it is now, stock. Surprisingly it seems both wheels were spinning all of the time during this burnout. I have planned for an LSD in the near future though!
Bro can you tell me what I need to be carefull buying e420? I want to buy one from second owner with 330kkm car on pictures looks very very clean can you give me some advice please? Thanks
Check if the head gaskets has been changed. I haven't had any problems myself, but have heard failing head gaskets to be common with higher milage. Take it for a proper test drive, and note the coolant level before and after. Smell the coolant expansion tank, if you don't mind being a little weird 😂 A smell of fuel is a sign of failing head gasket.
Otherwise I'd just check the overall condition of the car. I don't know of alot of problems with these engines.
What kind of power do you think it's putting down?
It has actually been measured on a dyno!
414 bhp @ 3700 rpm
1005 nm @ 2300 rpm
Baydäss !
Hallo , ich finde den sound unglaublich ! Kannst du mir sagen was der auspuff kostet und wo ich den kaufen kann? Danke voraus!
Hi! This exhaust system was built by Kleemann(in their workshop at their headquarter) as a one-off, after my wishes. The cost, labor included, was a little over €1500 if I remember correctly.
A close to identical exhaust system can likely be built at a local shop close to where you're at in Germany, Jüterbog or Malterdingen(or go to Denmark). Give Kleemann a call or send them a mail for details.
Thanks for your comment!
Great and rare car! What is the fuel consumption?
Thanks. Somewhere between 9-10L/100km, combined.
How is om629 reliability, I'm hearing a lot of bad things about it, but I really want it as well!
The milage on mine is about 200k km, and the reliability has for me proven to be excellent. Apparently, failing head gasket seems to be a common issue for engines with high milage. Otherwise I haven't heard much bad stuff myself!
The OM628(predecessor), on the other hand, is rather infamous for its problems. Is there a chance you have the two mixed up?
I need a change of pants...
hahahaha
Hi bkorven... Really nice car I love it... I would like to buy one and I wanted to ask you some specs about it, if you had any type of issues and what to be bewarn of
Thank you
Hi! Thank you!
This is hard to give a short answer to, so warning for a long reply! I will paste a little from a previous reply by me to someone with a similar set of questions.
The car has been more or less free from issues. The biggest issue that has happened with this car was when AirMatic failed. One of the air cushions lost pressure, and that was very pricy to fix. Has happened to this car once (during the last 13 years). Another periodic issue, although a much lesser one, is the cylinder pre-heat system acting up. Sometimes the glow plug indicator light comes on, and sometimes it dissappears again. It just means cold starts are sometimes a bit rough, and the problem should not be hard to fix. This seems to be a common issue with these engines.
Another thing good to know is that these engines are infamous for having the intake manifold and intake ports severely contaminated by soot, that sticks to the surfaces. This seems to be unavoidable with the EGR in operation. An EGR delete will prevent this problem.
All in all, this car has been very reliable, and I love it! Milage just passed 200k km.
When buying one I'd say try to look after what options you personally value. These cars could come with many different extra options/specs from factory. Panoramic roof, for example, is a rare but very nice option some of these came with. Paddle shifters is another very rare but also (to me) nice option. Avantgarde? Sport package? Harman/Kardon extended sound system? There are some stuff to consider, as I mentioned.
@@bkorven ok thank you very much!
eftersom du har 285 bak och 255 där fram så vore det rimligt att fälgarna fram är 8,5 tum breda och 9,5 tum breda där bak. Jag vet detta eftersom jag har samma uppsättning på min bil, förutsatt att mina är amg fälgar från nyaste csl. Återigen ett monsterbil du har, väntar nu ett möte på sommaren där vi kan ta en titt på varandras bilar :)
Ja den bredden stämmer nog! Tack, det är härligt att höra att du diggar den! Både jag och farsan(med sin CLS63) ska köra på strippen den 26/4 är det tänkt, nu i helgen som kommer. Kanske vi kan ses där! Vi kan också mötas up innan i närheten i så fall, och glida dit tillsammans. 40kr inträde (+ 100kr för att köra).
Hey. Its been a long time. Was the car reliable at least?
Hi! It has been very reliable, but I've started to see some signs of aging. The charge regulator and the glow plug module needs replacing. While I was at it, I found that the intake was heavily contaminated with soot. I'll clean everything thoroughly and delete the EGR, and that problem should never occur again! All in all, again, it has been super reliable, and will soon be out on the roads again.
Hi bro , I have an w211 e320cdi, full decat, fap off, straight pipes, but she has 270 000km, do you know if I will have problems if I go on a dyno mode with her ? thanks a lot
+The S.symptom Yo. Just entering Dyno Mode couldn't do any harm, no.
But if you plan to do a massive burnout in Dyno Mode, and that's why you're asking about Dyno Mode, well, that would be wearing on the car to some degree ofcourse hehe! A little stressful on the engine and gearbox, sure, but I don't think you'll have any problems other than your rear tires being a little worn!
Tjenare, vilken däckdimension kör du med? 285? är fälgarna AMG? hur breda är fälgarna? är det pirelli däck du kör? mvh
Tja,
Det här är vinterdäcken, 255mm breda runtom. Ja de är monterade på 18" AMG 22-ekrars(som kan sitta original på SL55/CLS55/SLK55). Är inte 100 på vilken bredd fälgarna har, 10.5" är kanske rimligt? Har för mig dessa är Pirelli, ja.
Sommardäcken är 285mm bak(255 fram) Michelin Pilot Sport, på 19" CLK Black Series fälgar. Och de är väl 10,5" fram och 11,5" bak gissar jag. Kanske är helt ute o cyklar angående fälgarnas bredd.
förlåt, det är nog 9,5" bredd på fälgarna. 10,5" bak på sommarfälgarna tror jag.
CAT Operator Engine
what about playin´ in a snow video? :)
+Teemu Löfberg Yeah that could be a sweet video! Would love to do that, but the car is in storage, unregistered over winter :/
What have you done in order to stop the smoke?? Please help
It's probably just a consequence of having proper air/fuel ratio. And in that case, it's all about the software.
bkorven I I have an e250coupe cdi 2011. I am considering of deleting the dpf what do you thing will it smoke? Thank you
@@xxbeastxx9671 Okay! It will probably smoke if you delete the DPF, but it doesnt necessarily have to! A good software can actually make it not smoke at all without DPF.
bkorven which software will you recommend?
@@xxbeastxx9671 A very good option is to have someone local make an individual remap for your engine. Otherwise I would always recommend Kleemann, and their ECU-tuning.
is this the turbo engine?
+weneakhborzable I don't know what else it would be, CDI equals turbo, always. So yes (it's biturbo).
da fällt mir der spruch aus der werbung ein -die karre ist jetzt nicht mehr soviel wert
hur är det med bilen nuförtiden?
+Mathias Johannesson Den är fortfarande som ny! Avställd nu över vintern.
Ну так надыметь , и моя бабушка сможет
How was the reliability?
Excellent, actually!
@@bkorven that's good..I don't trust biturbos too much😂 what did you have to replace?
@@JedemPoKucama Well, I've had to replace the oil every now and then 😁 No, but one system that has failed for me is the ignition pre-heating. The glow plug indicator is on. Other than that, I can't remember there has been a single engine problem.
I only hace one question, and I'm not trying to be mean... but what's the point of having a diesel if u are going to tune it like you do? anyway, your car looks awesome and also does ur pipe sound... but shouldn't it be better just getting a petrol engine?
It's a good question ;) But there's no short answer to it...
Yeah most people would not choose diesel for performance, and that's probably mainly because they just don't associate diesel with performance. Also, most people are obviously determined that their diesel powered car could never have exciting exhaust sound. Absolutely not true :D
Would it be better to get the equivalent petrol engine over this diesel engine? That would be the E500 5.0 N/A V8. It has got 388hp/530nm, and should be faster than a stock E420 CDI(314hp/730nm). With a simple chiptune/software upgrade only, the power of the 420 CDI easily rises to 370hp, while not much would be gained with the 500, perhaps another 10-15hp. Add proper exhaust mods to both cars and they can now be expected to have about the same amount of power, somewhere around 410-420hp.
Thing is though, with 414hp as I have in my E420 CDI, I can still get as low consumption as 7L/100km, while cruising gently. I don't think even a stock E500 could be close to that.
So with the tuning I've done I get loads of power, a nice growly exhaust sound, and unchanged or perhaps even improved consumption on long distance trips. You could hear the potential in exhaust sound of this car when it was stock, but it was soooo quiet! Now do you see the point of the tuning I've done? This 420 CDI is perfect for tuning! And this is not just any diesel engine, I don't know what you're compairing it to, but I wouldn't bother tune a dull 4-cyl diesel engine.
Another very crucial point is the power band. The E500 does not feel quick at all (in comparisson to the E420 CDI) unless you keep the engine over 4.5k rpm. It's a short power band, so that's where you'll want it if you want the most out of the engine. With the E420 CDI it does not really matter if you're at 3k rpm or 1.5k rpm, you'll be surprised! It has a very wide usable power band. In other words, since you don't do kickdowns all the time in the real world street driving, an E420 CDI feels much quicker, if you see what I mean. Such brutal force.
The E500 has more tuning options on the after market though, since it's more popular. There are for example complete supercharger conversion kits!
But one thing I highly value with the E420 CDI is that it's so uncommon.
I could go on...
Anyways, my whole point is, It's not as easy as just to say it would be better to get a petrol engine. There are pros and cons. Sometimes it's just a matter of preference.
bkorven E500/550 5.5L(not 5.0L), sorry!
bizim hacı merso daha guzel yanlıyo