2022 Ariens Ikon XD 52" - Big Box Store vs Ariens Dealer - Quality Differences
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Videos showing two Ariens mowers the IKON XD 52" MODEL 915266 (KOHLER ENGINE) and the 915267 (KAWASAKI ENGINE). Both are supposed to be the same except for the motor but there are major quality differences between lowes version and dealer.
I got mine from Lowe’s and it’s exactly like the one from the dealer.On the other hand I didn’t pay as much as you did.And I have the Kawasaki engine.I’m in the U.S.btw and it runs like a champ.
🤣 me too
I just bought one (IKON XD 52) from Lowe's and it is just like your dealer one but has the Kawasaki engine. I also didn't pay as much as you did either. $3799
@@robmartin9944 -same here - mulch kit included total cost 4200- exactly like one from dealer in video except has Kawasaki 23hp
Same exact thing for me ! I paid $2,800 though ! It was a return and nothing wrong with it
I was at lowes looking at it when i watched thus vid i agree with you had the better seat and ajustment and seemed to have better front wheels
Just had a new Ikon XD 52” delivered by Lowe’s Lawton Oklahoma. It is exactly the same as your dealership mower. Except it has the Kawasaki engine.
Based on my experience, the choice between these two mowers is clear, go with the Kawasaki engine. I purchased a Cub Cadet XT1 46 lawn tractor with the Kohler 7000 Series 22 horse engine. I decided to check the air filter well ahead of the maintenance schedule at 15 hrs. I was shocked to find the amount of dust and debris getting past my low-hour air filter. I contacted Kohler and sent photos. Kohler sent me a new filter housing and filter. This replacement failed as well. Kohler claimed they offer 3 grades of filter for this engine. The filter on my Cub Cadet was the minimal filter. I questioned why Kohler would do such a thing as sell engines with less than adequate filtration. The answer, which they did not give, is a price point. A cheaper filter system allows Kohler to underprice Kawasaki and Briggs and Stratton, thereby getting more of their Kohler engines into more mowers. After I sent Kohler photos of the second failure, they refused to do anything more until I had an engine failure. The engine did indeed fail with only 83 hrs. Fortunately, the dealer took the mower back. I purchased a Husqvarna Z254F with a 23 Kawasaki engine. Mr. Jones, please do another video. Open the filter of this on these two mowers and show the difference. Show the valve covers. I think the results of this comparison will be all anyone needs to make their choice.
What would be the difference between this mower and a john Deere z325x?
I think now Ariens uses exclusively Kawasaki engines on their 2024 models. I also like the pan door on them now as it makes it much easier to change out the belts.
I just bought an Ariens Ikon 52” from Lowe’s yesterday. After the military discount and the 3 yr protection plan, I paid $4317. It has the 23 hp Kawasaki engine, seat adjustment, the nice foot pedal that raises the deck, a step on the left side, high back plush seat, two LED headlights, two USB ports in the cup holder, 11 gauge steel deck, I mean it’s the freaking Cadillac of mowers imo. The only thing it’s missing is a roll bar. I love this machine.
How are you liking this? Real close to getting one. Trying to talk myself out of it. It's not working
@@AJ31CO Honestly, it drives just a little bit different than other zero turns that I’ve used but that’s easy to get used to. My yard is pretty freaking big and I get it done in about one third the time. With this mower, I love the cut lines as well. It’s not the worst zero turn that I’ve used on hills, but not the best either. I’m happy with mine overall. Now, if I had to buy it again; would I? Absolutely! Go get yourself a mower that you’ll love also.
I believe the mowers comes with a three warranty, why pay extra for Lowes three year?
@@chip9177. You mean Ariens give you a Warranty even though I bought at Lowe’s. How do you get it. ??
@@briancostello6892 Go online to Ariens site, go to the bottom & select product registration. You will beed the ser# of your unit. It is no a sticker....maybe under the seat.
I just bought one from lowes for 3799. Got 10% off due to the battery not being charged. But I got the one you received from the dealer with a kawasaki
I tried to buy the Ariens XD 52 at our local dealer and they told me that they weren't getting anymore this year that Lowes was getting all the 52 inch XD's instead of them. I went to Lowes and bought the Arien's XD 52 with the Kawasaki engine, mine looks just like the one you bought from your dealer with the nice padded seat and rubberized grips on the handles. I did order the rubber mat and the Ariens hitch for mine from Amazon. I ended paying $3699.00 + tax for mine at Lowes and our dealer had them for the same price earlier in the season before they couldn't get anymore of the 52 inch.
Where did you Order the mat & hitch
I bought one like you got at the dealer, from Lowes 3 months ago. Much of the main reason I got the one I did was the seat comfort! Its the same except Kawi engine. 18.5 hrs in 3 months and running great! Super comfy too. 😊
Delivered a nice even cut, has the super tight turning ability ruclips.net/user/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend I was looking for, and is just a blast to drive. It takes a little bit to get used to driving one after driving a normal tractor style, but once you've got it, you've got it. If you're cutting lines, you have to be careful spinning the mower around or the back tire will dig a bare spot. Just take it nice and slow during the turn and then it's back to full throttle across the yard!
Just purchased at Lowes. Like others have reported. Same seat, Kawasaki engine 23 HP. Handle bars are the same.
I bought a ikon xd52 from lowes and it has the bigger seat like you have from the dealer. I also only paid 2800.00 for it compared to what you just paid. Second zero turn I bought from lowes. I go in and ask for a manager then ask the manager for a discount. They gave me 20% off both times I purchased one. And I also got an additional 5% off for using the lowes card.
I am looking to buy the 52” and undecided on Kawasaki or Kohler. I’m told the Kohler has plastic Cam Gears that fail after 500-600 hours.
Great video, very informative. Thanks for taking time to make. 🙏🏻
Kawi all day
Another difference is there is a less chance of something being put together wrong from the dealer. I’ve heard nightmare stories of problems with mowers from the box stores and then the dealers have to fix them. Just buy from a dealer and help the guy out and do yourself a favor.
I got the Ikon XD 60" from Ace Hardware. They must've had the dealer version, and I got it for $4199 plus tax (USD). Only used it twice so far, but LOVE it. Came with the better seat and the rubber floor mat, and metal pulley covers rather than plastic.
I bought mine from Lowes, and Got the better seat, the grips, and the KAWASAKI engine for less than you paid. Maybe Canada just got a bad shipment or something.
Thanks for providing this informative video. It is helping me determine which zero-turn mower I'll be purchasing soon.
The one I got from Lowes is exactly like yours from the dealer but much cheaper. The seat, handles, and position of the seat the same. Now my neighbors Ariens XD52 looks likes yours-but it was last years model. Seat on the engine like yours, same handles like yours. I am thinking you did not get a newer model Ariens at Lowes, but the previous years model. Mine also has the newer tires also. I do have the Kawasaki engine on mine from Lowes.
you are 100% correct
The one from Lowes looks like the put a Husqvarna seat and handles on it when they assembled it.
I believe the actual difference is the x I got the icon XD 52 and the mowers outside the store at Lowe's where the earlier versions possibly without the armrest and adjustable seat with the different style handles covers inside the store before I purchased I noticed they had six xd52s with different decaling different seating trim was way different which matches the dealer tractor in this video so I believe it's a matter of age and upgrade as I believe mine is as the dealer version in this video
I think you bought last year's model from Lowe's because I just got one delivered Thursday and it's the exact same as the one from the dealer aaaaaand I paid a whole lot less than $6000
This is definitely the case. They redesigned the Ikon. Even with the orientation of the transmission for better cooling.
People who bought there’s from Lowe’s Home Depot or Tractor Supply are going to say theirs is the same. Whether they are lying are not is irrelevant, people should buy what they can afford. The service what I look for. Lowe’s will not service it so you must find a dealer. In my city the dealers treat people who didn’t buy from them terribly.
Don’t blame them, we just can’t ever get to them
You probably should have done some research before you made this video. The ones from Lowe's are the exact same from the dealer. The difference is the employees don't know how to put together the zero-turn mowers. What you got my friend is a zero-turn that was put together completely wrong by an employee😁 I would have never accepted that and would have asked for a different one😨
I think any of the two are great. I bought my XD52 three years ago from Lowes for 3100. It has Kawasaki, Kenda tires, low grade seat with arm rest. 90 hours on it and no problems at all. I just replaced fuel,air,oil filter and oil change to full synthetic. I will now run ethanol free fuel from now on. The only thing I wish it had was a roll bar to mount a canopy for the Texas heat.
Your from Texas get a sombrero...
I got a 2021 same as yours at Lowe's w/ military discount at Lowe's was 2770. Have 88.2 hr.s and drive belt failed, and it isn't properly aligned, but that is fixable, but I'm not impressed by that oversight. Should have been engineered better. Lack of quality control at the company, next time I'll shop around a little harder and look at details a little better.
The one from Lowes appears to have the wrong seat installed ( probably a mistake when assembling at the store), I was at Lowe's last night and the one they had was exactly like the one you got at the dealer except it had a Kawasaki which Ariens now exclusively uses on their mowers. And I believe the one from Lowes is an older mower then the one you got from the dealer
Your way better off with the dealer model just the crappy seat tires handle bars. It’s a no brainer. Great review thank you
Just bought mine new from a dealer two weeks ago and it looks like the cheaper Lowe's one and it doesn't have the adjustable seat. They had four of them so I assumed they were current 2022 models.
Kinda bummed that I didn't get some of the upgrades as it was full retail price.
Works great though!
I bought mine from Lowe's and mine has the adjustable seat plus steering is adjustable and came with the Kawasaki motor but what I have noticed is the starter solenoid that's the difference cause the solenoid i have on mine is nothing but a pain in the ass and I have replaced it already 2 or 3 times and not even a few months old so be careful there
The unit with the Kohler engine is definitely a 2022 model, the other looks like an older model. Would check the serial number plate to be sure of manufacture date. Either way both are better than my 2001 Craftsman 19.5 hp riding mower. Looking to getting me an Ikon XD but still searching for an Apex with a 48” deck.
Both are 2022 model year serial numbers
Check your serial numbers because I believe the Lowe's or the Big Box store is a model year older than the one you got from the dealer the seat update was for the newer model and The Handlebar rubber is for the newer model as well I believe they're a year apart
I got mine from Lowe’s last early winter was the floor model 0.2 hours for 2400. It’s exact like yours from the dealer with the seat and handles except I got Carlisle tires.
The manufacturer says the mower comes assembled, except for the assembly of the seat. As such, one would think a purchase from Lowe’s would not make a big difference. That being said, I bought my from a local dealer for the same cost.
The seat is because you are looking at different year models...other than that they are identical. You just paid more from dealer. Also I just paid $3,699 from Lowes for the "dealer" version. False information!!
I bought the 60" zenith about 2 years ago from a dealer and paid a little over 6 grand for it. I think I got a great deal.
Wow I guess America hasn't lost all its Values yet.I night mine at Lowes 2 moths ago with everything on your dealer model except I got KSaki.
$4200.3 yr 300hr Warranty
I've put 132hrs and I really am pleased with this mower.
also you mention the key was left on so it shows more hours, is this confirmed? some of the older hour meters would do that, but most new ones have a sensor wire wrapped around one of the coil wires and it will only log hours when it's actually running as it picks up the pulse form the coil wire, maybe yours is different. not sure if i'd feel good about paying more for the "dealer" version, especially if they're trying to pull one over on you. I had a plumbing company try to tell me the contractor delta faucets had brass internals compared to the plastic ones found at home depot. i called Delta and they said they are all identical. i'd be calling ariens asap.
contact ariens, they will send you a new seat. you got a 2021 model or someone swapped the seat on an Edge model and didn't tell you. dealers around here will take a nice suspension seat off a high-end commercial mower and stick it on a residential mower for $800, and then discount the commercial mower with the cheaper seat, silly but they do it. it could have been a supply/demand issue during that batch of box store mowers, but every 2022 i see, including the website shows the new seat. maybe there was a transition period and that's from an older batch. either way call them, and they should take care of you. if it were a scag they would tell you to go fly a kite lol.
Actually - these are not the same units - motors are different and there are 2 models of the 52" at Lowes - 3699 for the cheaper version and 3999 for the "upgraded" one - the one you are describing from the dealer - is at Lowes for 3999.00 - hope this helps.
Lowe's must have stepped up their game or either Canada and U.S. Lowe's are different because I bought mine like a month ago and I have everything your dealer mower on the right has except it has a kawy powerplant instead of the kohler powerplant. The only thing Lowe's dropped the ball on is that silver "A" emblem for Ariens on the back must have fell off of mine because I would love to brag on this mower even more and your brand badge helps and fell off during transport at some point. Other than that cut and mows great, cut quality superb, no complaint otherwise...
Bought mine from dealer. Came with the seat like yours from dealer but has a Kawasaki motor. 4K out the door 0% financing for 5yrs.
All Ariens mowers are assembled by Ariens. The store only puts the seat on and maybe adjusts the levers up into position. They don't touch the mower deck or dreive components.
It’s Because those are two different year models. The one on the left is 2022 model with new seat, grips etc. 2021 on the right.
Also, those grips are Gravely grips (same company) and they are $24 in stock on their website. You got an outdated seat and worse motor from the dealer and paid more. This video has a lot of false information!!!!
I just bought my Apex from Lowes. Same as dealer but dealer was 1200 more. They could not justify the price difference. I did the spec comparison, exactly the same to the T!
I paid 5 for the one from lowes with the Kawasaki.
And mine is like your dealer version, with the better grip, the adjustable seat lever, doesn't hit the engine, etc.
Interesting comparison. I had a Kawasaki on a Husqvarna MZ61 and honestly I wasnt impressed with it. Bogged down, had random starting issues (like yours in this video) and randomly smoked due to a clogged pcv filter (I assume) atr like 80 hours. I'll stick with Kohler.
Get it from Lowe’s, find inevitable mistakes in assembly, call to complain and get discount, fix the mistakes yourself easily.
Got my 52" with the Kawasaki from Lowes, $1800 and change OTD / floor model 50% off with 10% military discount on top of that. Right place at the right time I guess.
The one I purchased from Lowe's is exactly like the one you purchased from the dealer except for the engine which was a Kawasaki. I like the Kawasaki engine better too. Lowe's must have screwed you.
Mine looks just like the one from the dealer except i got a kawasaki.....I got it from lowes.....the one you got from lowes is the 2020 version i think...they added the stuff your talking about later in 2021....look at the build date....mine was built in 2021...
I think you have an older model from lowes. I just got one at lowes its the exact thing you have from the dealer.
The seat on the “Lowes” Ikon machine can be adjusted so it does not hit the motor. It was assembled wrong. Common problem.
The one to the right is a late 21 because all the 24s are all tube frame with kawasaki 23 hp.
They've made more changes for the 2023 models also.
I got mine 2 years ago, that lowes seat is still in great condition ( I did upgrade the seat springs for the seat platform ) and I got some grip tape from Dicks what kind of matches ypur more expensive version. Would you mind look at the blades and spindle . Is there any difference on the deck and parts ?
I got mine from Lowes and it’s exactly the same as the one you got from the dealer. I guess it all depends on what comes in on the truck.
I purchased one of these from Lowe’s or Home Depot and not the dealership specifically because of the Kohler motor. Ive had to many Kohler motors crack the block
I'm surprised so many people don't know the differences between the different models Ariens makes or do their research and remember things On the Edge series Vs the Ikon series Vs the Apex series vs the Zenith series. My bad if someone already pointed this out HOWEVER the Lowes Ikon 52 has the wrong items installed on it they do not even belong on the Ikon series, That seat you're complaining about IS NOT A Ikon series seat its from the cheaper lower end model the Edge series Ariens sells same thing goes with the rear tires there also from the Edge series and installed on this Ikon the tires are the same size however, but there a cheaper lower grade of tire Vs the Ikon tires that it should of came with it.
Simply look at a Dealer Model 915266 and model 915267 the only different item is the engine that's it. I'd be returning the Lowes Ikon 52 if I where you.
I have the one you purchased from dealer. Got it from Lowes with Kawi motor...
Bought one this year from a dealer and it’s much better than the one you have from a dealer Kawasaki motor on mine bigger front tires control panel configuration totally different from yours is it possible what you get in Canada a different version mine is a better version than Lowe’s. No way for any reason would I recommend Lowe’s.
You guys are getting ripped off in Canada. I bought my at Lowes in the United States and it's exactly like the one you bought at the dealer. The only thing different with my Ariens Ikon xd 52' is I have a Kawasaki engine. I'm not sure about pricing, since there is a rate conversion.
I believe the one you bought at Lowes is call an "Edge" in the US.
Has anyone noticed a oil leak on the 52" with the Kawasaki engine???? I bought this exact mower from Lowes on 6/20/22 and paid around $3600. Noticed a little oil has leaked from somewhere. Will investigate this more today and this weekend. I have 5 days to return it. Other than this the mower does great.
You figure it out? I've had mine for about a year and a half and have no leaks.
I bought the model on the left at our Lowe's in Tennessee. They had both and that seat on the right one is terrible.
Scamazon has the cheaper model for 4300 free ship
Get the kas engine for sure 😊
Dealership mowers are better period plus you get service 😊
The one with the Kawasaki motor completely has the wrong seat in it. It us made for the Ariens Edge line not the icon line. If you look very close you can tell that it is the wrong seat and that they put it together wrong at The Big Box store because there isn't no room on each side of that seat for your leg or your butt. It is supposed to be 3 inches higher like the other one.
I got that same mower couple weeks ago from Lowes, and I have the exact one you said you got @ a dealer, it has that good adjustable seat, the grips... etc...I have the 915267 with the Kawaski motor.... so that's strange, only thing I can think of is the age, whats the date on your 2? mine is May of 2022 (is on that sticker by the battery, maybe the one you got at lowes is old stock and they updated/change it) so I have what you got from the dealer just with the Kawaski motor... $3799.99
Did you check the date stamp on the one from Lowe’s? They are always selling previous years models .. I returned mine and got a BadBoy Maverick HD, WAY NICER Machine!
Tear decks apart and check the spindles . The besrings and blades are constantly wearing out on the Lowes
I bought my ARIENS EDGE 42 at LOWES; and it looks like the one on the website. I think your LOWES put the incorrect seat on your mower. Also, there is some assembly at LOWES, so the seat might have been put on without the proper adjustment. That know looks like a lockdown knob, as opposed to an adjust knob. Bummer. You might try calling ARIENS.
I would take the Kawasaki engine over any other every time.
I think what happened is you got new old stock when they had made changes to the mower but US Lowe’s stores have the mower you’re showing from the dealer @ a better price
I got one at Lowes in 2021 and I got arm rests on mine. Also the seat thing that you say does nothing. It's probably there so if you want to install it on that seat. The only reason they would put one on there. Idk why anyone would put something on a mower that literally don't do anything.
Rear Axle Problems? I've had my Home Depot IKON 52" with Kawasaki about 3 years now. The problem I am having is some creaking sounds and slop in the rear axles at the wheels. Seems bad enough to do something to fix this before more damage occurs. I see on Ebay, they sell axle kits. Wondering if anyone has done axle replacement on this machine? Please let me know if anyone has posted a video on this subject. Not looking forward to this repair at only under 200 hours on the machine. Thanks Much!
“Leaving a key on..” DOES NOT change the run hours on a timer. Crazy talk there. It measures the time the motor is running, so unless that mower sat and idled for 26hours (since you say it never cut grass) the timer should say zero. 6:39
Leaving the key in the on position will increase the hours on the meter even if engine is not running. Made a short to clarify. Thanks ruclips.net/user/shortsMeNSew4j-uA?feature=share
I just got the left side one at lowes for 1899.99 in Louisiana
These are different models. The 1 you have from lowes is a smaller chassis and engine combo with the same size 52" deck. Lowes sells the same bigger 1 too. At leaat the lowes in my areas do as they have both the smaller and bigger 1 plus the onyx one. 😂
I got the one you got from the dealer at lowes and paid half of that in the US. That’s terrible!
i have everything you show on the dealer one with a kawasaki motor and paid like 4500 usd for it
Thanks.
Mine from Lowe’s is identical to the one you got at the dealer…and I paid $3799 plus tax.. not sure what’s up with lowes near you?
Check the build date, the difference is newer updates…
I wouldn't own a Kohler.
Mowing time from a lawn tractor to a zero turn... my 1/2 acre results with a 48"...45 minutes to 30..33% less time
I’ll bet you could upgrade that seat for less than $800. If so, it’s looking like the bargain of the duo, especially with Kawasaki engine.
No grease serts on the spindle bearings or the front end?
Huge differences bigger frame the seat cup holders etc
I don’t know but your lowes might be on that hustle
I got one from lowes today in ottawa and it’s exactly the same as your dealer one. Also it was 4700$ before tax
The one from Lowes is an Edge seat and handles. They need to be replaced
Its easy dont buy from a big box chain PERIOD Buy from a Dealership This Review is 100% Facts and there both good Engines! But If I had a choice? Hands Down all day Long The Kawasaki is well just a Beast! Kohler just cant hang! have a great day, Love IceMan
No, the apex and the xd are different....both good but iKon XD isn't as serviceable as the apex, has smaller casters and shallower deck etc.....apex is a bit more heavy duty and has different deck height selection style and deck is a little thicker too
Had to push my seat up on mine came from Lowe's
You bought mowers that were different years bud. And ya got hosed
I have a dealer one , with the better seat and Kawasaki engine so I lucked out
How do you service a Ariens ikonx 52
Any grease zerts ????😢😢😢
They are the same mower. Gen1 vs gen2.
The one from the dealer is a 2023 they have upgraded them
SAD OWNER OF AN IKON XD 52" DONT BUY AN ARIENS THEY ARE JUNK buy a used toro or exmark for less and have less problems. new doesnt always mean better. the deign and junk self contained hydro-gear transaxle you cant get to... to refiill because they start leaking after 30 hours... causes you to have to take whole mower apart to add oil.. other then that ive had to replace springs, many upon many belts... frame has cracked and this UNIT barely Used - little over 300 hours... I had a toro with over 2500 hours and had less issues
Ariens and Gravely are the same mowers
This good for 5+ acres ?
Ill take the kawi over the kohler any day tho.