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In our defense, it was great. But yeah not worth $19 lol

Dude I laughed so hard filming this. Genuinely funny how close they were

@@alecbarnhart6428 I mean it genuinely makes you think!!! Do you try it…

Bravo sir 👏

Same with analog synthesizers. Like Teenage Engineering charges thousands of dollars for these things that just create different forms of waves. Look Mum No Computer makes his own for cheap. It's a ripoff.

That’s not how business works. That’s not how production works. Seriously, not to be (too) condescending, but I wonder what is your age, background, profession, education…. This just sounds like a very naive rant. 1) What “marketing department?” 1981 is like one guy, no? There’s no conspiracy or manipulation. 2) Can you recognize the difference between designing and manufacturing an elegantly designed pedal in the US vs making a copycat with lesser materials in China? 3) The objective of business is to generate profits. Thats how you survive against a massive field of competition. You have to decide what you can afford and what you want to support. Do you also rant at Mercedes for trying to make too much money because you can get a Kia that gets you groceries at the same speed? 4) I’m going to ignore the inane insult of guitarists’ intellects. Just too dumb to argue…..

Spitting facts. I thought the same…what marketing departments?

@@CentaurusRelax314 I have owned my own business for 10 years and many of my friends are millionaires that own their own business. Marketing is real, and I have been in it, and I can tell you it's basically just manipulation tactics 90% of the time, the other 10% a good product stands on it's own through word of mouth and doesn't need tricks like, certain colors do such and such in the brain and so on. The issue with US made pedals is that our "free market" is over regulated and over taxes, cause you know "tax the rich". These regulations cause an excess of money to be spent to continue manufacturing, and the taxes of course are also passed down to the consumer. Not to mention labor cost, more taxes and more regulations. A 15/hr employee cost me 30/hr. And yeah, profits. A luxury car and a guitar pedal are no mutually exclusive, it's not even a comparison. The fact is there is no reason a metal box with a breadboard and some clever engineering should cost so much. Like the Klon for example, big deal. I think that often times it's just guitar players getting a hard on for stuff other guitar players that they look up to say is good, and then they have to have it cause, tone. Look up "where does the tone come from in an amp" it's a video by Jim Lill. It will blow your mind.

@@nothingchannel111 interesting ‘perspective.’ Starts out vague and with a specious, Trump-like association with something of substance, and then devolves into conspiracy and victimization. Okay, 10 years. Great. Double that for me. Millionaire friends? That’s like Trump saying he has an inherent mind for science because his uncle went to MIT…. Yes, marketing is real. I’ve been in marketing/advertising for 30 years. But calling it “manipulation tactics 90% of the time” is ridiculous. Likewise, saying a good product stands on its own through word of mouth is insane and if you actually had to produce and sell a product yourself, well, you wouldn’t. I wonder if you would share with us what your “business” is and how you exist by “word of mouth” and how that would apply to the crowded pedal field. [Crickets….] Word of mouth works great for a lawn mowing business or babysitting. Sure-granted. Free market? Labor costs? Share with us, also, how in your business you pay yourself only the minimum that you need to survive. And what country are you in? You have a problem with regulations, but I would bet that you actually rely on them to protect your country from scenarios that are common in a lot of third world nations. And if something bad were to happen, you’d be quick on the trigger to your attorney to sue. The luxury car/pedal thing-that was an analogy. To illustrate a *concept* of reasoning. Can’t make it simpler for you if you can’t deal with a simple concept…. A metal box and breadboard doesn’t cost what it costs because of the cost of its components. Seriously, I need to know what business you’re in…. What are you typing these messages on? Take a look at the actual component costs of a smart phone or tablet vs retail. It’s the same thing, man. Products are almost never priced according to component costs. Do you know why a Boss pedal costs $150 vs $40 for a Joyo? Which one develops products. Which company has support staff. Which company pays a decent wage to employees. Which one spends millions on marketing and distribution channels and erects massive display booths at NAMM and supports artists and warrantees its products and…. You buy a $17 pedal off amazon-maybe your ears can’t tell the difference between it and a Klon or a King of Tone, but that’s not the point. It may very well be as musical as an expensive pedal. Again, not the point. You raise the point of the Klon-maybe you don’t like/understand the Klon. Maybe you haven’t owned one or a good version of one. I’ve had a few clones, and never bonded with any of them until the Germanium Wampler, which I now absolutely love. Not the point either. With an actual Klon, if you buy one, its value is more than its components and its value is actually increasing. Big deal? Check the number of pros who use one. They consider it a big deal. You don’t need to ‘get it’ for it to still have value. Try looking at it from another perspective. It’s not all about You. It’s not that kind of party….

Thanks man!!!

Thanks!

Speaking from personal experience, it definitely is! His choice is just down to workflow preference I'd imagine. I still like the sound of my line 6 echo park for normal delays, so I use it in conjunction with the LVX for strictly wild and experimental delays.

He nailed it! lol it's just a work flow thing for me and also I just love the El Cap. But the LVX could handle all of that if you wanted it too

I don't yet, but I can. Let me work on that! Glad you dig it

I've noticed this too lol It almost doesn't need a knob

Honestly just because it's on a different board lol I'm sure the drives will rotate for different sounds I need

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it! We'll keep em coming

Lol nothing makes people as mad as accidentally saying it's a tube screamer. But you're correct it is not

gotta represent