Marshall plexi cleans are fantastic. You can add some spring from another source on the marshall clean and be good to go. There's nothing you can add to the dream to make it sound as big as the marshall. In addition to that, if you add a great overdrive in front of the marshall, there's EVEN MORE BIGGERR-ER-ERRS to be had there. The first time i tried my Friedman IR-X next to the dream i had the same reaction you guys did here. My compromise was to just use the IR-X and the Dream simultaneously in a dual mono set up. More is more.
As someone who owns the Friedman IR-X as well as the UAFX amp sims line, there are some points here I agree with and disagree with. I'm guessing you've never tried the UAFX pedals and own the Friedman IR-X. Firstly, I do agree with you that Marshalls have amazing cleans and generally sound bigger than Fender amps. I disagree with you that you can't get there with a Fender amp. I could throw a Marshall-In-A-Box pre-amp that bypasses the amp's own and we'd get similar results. I also disagree that the Friedman IR-X will give you bigger/better tones than a UAFX Lion or Anti. The Friedman is a great pedal but it doesn't react and interact with effects as realistically as the UA pedals. For that reason, UA's stuff has stayed on my boards and Friedman's has never made it on. If you're looking for a multi-modeller, try the ToneX and you'll be much happier!
I’d say this same thing can be said about a tube Marshall and fender too. They sound totally different. I think this just shows the sounds a drastically different
My desktop setup for noodling is the Lion into the Source Audio Collider, which has a great spring along with loads of other options. Can’t ask for more.
Both amazing pedals. What I will say is i think the room control is more important than having reverb. Most pedalboards have a reverb somewhere anyway but that room control makes it sound so much more 'real'
Obviously, the Marshall will win on Panama. I was waiting for UA to put out the Lion because I have enough Fender amps. I haven't purchased it yet because I still am pretty much an amp and pedal guy. I want to use the Lion with either a studio setup or an FRFR speaker. I think my THR would do it. Can you just plug it into a regular cabinet? I know I can use the effects return of one of my amps too.
Feels weird to find such a non-cringe, well put together and precise show. This is exactly what I was looking for and I echo your sentiments. The Lion is fuckin nasty. As someone who has been obsessed with the tone on The Who's Live at Leeds since I was 12, (although he used a hiwatt amp which is like vox+marshall if I'm not mistaken) I cannot pass this pedal up, the sounds are way gnarly and expressive, as a real amp should be. I've been using a JHS PG14 on a mid Fender solid state amp, which is okay but definitely could be better. hopefully the lion provides that extra spice I'm yearning for.
The Lion has more girth, but I think there is a simple reason. It looks like you are using the speaker cabinet functions on these pedals. You can toggle that off on both pedals. Otherwise, you are comparing a 4x12 cab sound to a 1x12 sound and really,... there is no comparison. Toggle the cabs off and run both into a mixer with some secondary EQ adjustments and I bet the results will be a little different.(Honestly, I have both and I love both, but I prefer the Lion. I also have the Ruby and it's a monster, too!)
@@gearnighthang You should get right on that, because you offer no captions, no chapters, and you also refrain from narrating as to what pedal the test player is currently playing. This all being the case, your viewers have to watch every single millisecond and pay very close attention to which pedal you're switching to, and/or try to pay very close attention to which LED's are on at that moment. On top of that, finishing with non-descriptive statements such as "That was awesome!" when the viewer doesn't have any indication as to what THAT actually was means you're now wasting the viewers time. Please, take no offense, we enjoy the concept, but captions, chapters, and descriptive narration will help tremendously.
Marshall plexi cleans are fantastic. You can add some spring from another source on the marshall clean and be good to go. There's nothing you can add to the dream to make it sound as big as the marshall. In addition to that, if you add a great overdrive in front of the marshall, there's EVEN MORE BIGGERR-ER-ERRS to be had there. The first time i tried my Friedman IR-X next to the dream i had the same reaction you guys did here. My compromise was to just use the IR-X and the Dream simultaneously in a dual mono set up. More is more.
As someone who owns the Friedman IR-X as well as the UAFX amp sims line, there are some points here I agree with and disagree with. I'm guessing you've never tried the UAFX pedals and own the Friedman IR-X. Firstly, I do agree with you that Marshalls have amazing cleans and generally sound bigger than Fender amps. I disagree with you that you can't get there with a Fender amp. I could throw a Marshall-In-A-Box pre-amp that bypasses the amp's own and we'd get similar results. I also disagree that the Friedman IR-X will give you bigger/better tones than a UAFX Lion or Anti. The Friedman is a great pedal but it doesn't react and interact with effects as realistically as the UA pedals. For that reason, UA's stuff has stayed on my boards and Friedman's has never made it on. If you're looking for a multi-modeller, try the ToneX and you'll be much happier!
Dude! I had a good time just watching you guys have a good time. I'm gonna hit the button!
Bro! Thank you so much! We’re just here for a good time haha
i use both, Lion for Stereo Wet, Dream for dry channel. WDW (stereo) and its fabulous!
Ohhh we might need to try that out!
@@gearnighthang any ?'s feel free to ask.
I’d say this same thing can be said about a tube Marshall and fender too. They sound totally different. I think this just shows the sounds a drastically different
My desktop setup for noodling is the Lion into the Source Audio Collider, which has a great spring along with loads of other options. Can’t ask for more.
Love that! We need to try the Collider! I've heard great things about it
I have the UAFX Lion, it's SERIOUSLY good.
I love it more and more every day!
@@gearnighthang Try dialing in the room knob around 12/1 o’clock -> gets great Hendrix or early Clapton tones 👍
The Marshall is surprisingly good clean.
It rocked my world
TORQUE IT UP
Lion sounded awesome
Now do I trade my dirt pedals and stereo 68 vibrochamp & ac10 setup for a couple of dsl5’s 😮
Both amazing pedals. What I will say is i think the room control is more important than having reverb. Most pedalboards have a reverb somewhere anyway but that room control makes it sound so much more 'real'
Yep room control for digital stuff is crucial! Gives it a sense of space
Just get an A B Y pedal and use both
Don't tempt me with a good time!
Great comparison! I like the Lion more, but I have the impression that the Dream cut in the mix better.
Thanks! That's what we were thinking too! We'll report back once we have more time with it live
I have all 4 and use them all. I'm hoping they make classic bass amp emulation soon.
That would be killer! I've heard good things about the Origin bass pedals but haven't tried them myself
Obviously, the Marshall will win on Panama. I was waiting for UA to put out the Lion because I have enough Fender amps. I haven't purchased it yet because I still am pretty much an amp and pedal guy. I want to use the Lion with either a studio setup or an FRFR speaker. I think my THR would do it. Can you just plug it into a regular cabinet? I know I can use the effects return of one of my amps too.
You cannot just plug it into a regular cabinet unless it's a FRFR cabinet.
Spring reveb for the win - that SPANK* cant beat.
Spring verb for life
Feels weird to find such a non-cringe, well put together and precise show. This is exactly what I was looking for and I echo your sentiments. The Lion is fuckin nasty. As someone who has been obsessed with the tone on The Who's Live at Leeds since I was 12, (although he used a hiwatt amp which is like vox+marshall if I'm not mistaken) I cannot pass this pedal up, the sounds are way gnarly and expressive, as a real amp should be. I've been using a JHS PG14 on a mid Fender solid state amp, which is okay but definitely could be better. hopefully the lion provides that extra spice I'm yearning for.
Thanks man! The Lion is still on my board!
The Lion has more girth, but I think there is a simple reason. It looks like you are using the speaker cabinet functions on these pedals. You can toggle that off on both pedals. Otherwise, you are comparing a 4x12 cab sound to a 1x12 sound and really,... there is no comparison. Toggle the cabs off and run both into a mixer with some secondary EQ adjustments and I bet the results will be a little different.(Honestly, I have both and I love both, but I prefer the Lion. I also have the Ruby and it's a monster, too!)
buy them all ...keep em.... use em... don't make yer life hard with decisions !!! lol
You're right! I gotta stop thinking so hard lol I'm gonna get them all
@@gearnighthang The Ruby is my fav!! really nice sounding pedal !!!
Now that I’m older, I also appreciate Marshalls 😂
It's great and sad all at the same time lol
@@gearnighthang yeah 100%!
that it, lion wins
Lion is unreal
keep both
kept both lol
can you guys, like, be more informative and less entertaining-annoying?
lol oh ya, well get right on that
@@gearnighthang You should get right on that, because you offer no captions, no chapters, and you also refrain from narrating as to what pedal the test player is currently playing. This all being the case, your viewers have to watch every single millisecond and pay very close attention to which pedal you're switching to, and/or try to pay very close attention to which LED's are on at that moment. On top of that, finishing with non-descriptive statements such as "That was awesome!" when the viewer doesn't have any indication as to what THAT actually was means you're now wasting the viewers time. Please, take no offense, we enjoy the concept, but captions, chapters, and descriptive narration will help tremendously.
Agree, chapters are very very important :D
You guys are great! I love this channel 😂 I can’t believe Glen Powell has time to do these videos.