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I used a vice flat head screw driver n 20 mins later i had all the covers off n now use a 18mm socket 👌👌

Will be worthless in 3-5 years just like a Renault or a Peugeot ! ...LoL

Only video that actually gets to the ownership experience.

What's your thoughts on a steering stabilizer?

I agree 100%. The service issue and lack of communication is the most frustrating part… greetings from Germany

Thanks for the video! Congrats! Is it good for long distance travel? Highway comfort?

Toyota dealers are from perfect. They don't make much selling vehicles, so their profit must come from service. I'll fill in some details on Toyotas! But first - strange about keys - my Discovery 4 has a falling apart key, Indy was getting another, I said get a third, Indy worried about the cost, around $330. The key is proximity but doesn't unlock the doors, but similar tech I suspect. Landcruiser 300 series all over Australia were supplied with just one key and owners had to wait for many months to get their second. Look at the advertisements, LC300s being sold will often mention this: "Two keys". So if a Landcruiser 300 owner with one key looses it ... I've wondered what then happens? My local Toyota dealer (biggest seller in Victoria) charged me for oil during its fixed priced services ... when it's supposed to be part of the fixed service charges. I thought well - hopefully - they are really changing the oil and lubrications fluids. Who really knows? The same dealer often reports a plug is stuck and it would cost $2,000 to fix and would require a head shave and new gaskets (Lexus RX350 V6 petrol) and when I quoted torque settings, queried why is an apprentice doing such a job, and told them I wanted it towed to another dealer - they miraculously got the plug out. But they attacked the sat nav DVD as an act of vengeance. I reported it to Lexus (the Lexus dealership is part of the same site with Toyota next to the Lexus outlet) and are run by the same group) and Lexus said "too bad, they are independent of Lexus". I have that in writing!! My 1997 Prado (bought new and now its my son's and still going - bought a Kakadu 150 series and hated it, piece of unwieldy goo compared to the petrol 90 series) needed a new key also. Decades ago! Cost was $270. But I bought the blank for $60, had it copied, and then entered the code in the radio with the key in the ignition - and a few seconds later it was coded correctly. So the dealer was charging $210 back then for a two minute job.

Hi John I also have the Kaon barrier and shelf. I noted attached to your barrier a Firestryker fire extinguisher. Kaon sell these also. Have you had any experience with them? Effective? They are nice and compact, but relatively expensive compared to standard’ extinguishers ( but what price do you put on safety?) Cheers

If you install a rear view camera and use it instead of the central mirror, it will be superb

I have one, and I hate it. The fuel system throws a check engine light every time you fill it up, and you have to take it to the dealer, for me that is a two hour drive to get it turned off. When this happens, it also kills the cruise control. I ended up buying a code reader so I could reset this engine light myself. There is a speed warning that has to be turned off every time you start the thing. You need to replace the steering stabilizer for $400.00 to fix the stiff steering issue. The turning radius is the same as a semi-truck. Wait until they fix these issues before buying one. It is a good driving car, but for this price, you can buy a Ford F250 top-of-the-line and have way more bells and whistles. The update did not happen in 2024 come on INEOS get it together.

Accounting wheel nuts

In case you didn't know, Brown-Davis have made a 68 litte sub tank for the Grenadier that mounts up under the rear skid plate 👌

Thanks for this report. I guess it's a matter of time before someone refills with 100% of water and not 67% water and 32.5% Urea, what's the other 0.5%? Would be interesting to see what would happen.

Hi John. Do you still have your Grenadier?

I would not want to make that hypocrite Ratcliffe richer.

I can't find the EXT1 under the hood (supposed to be near the Airfilter on RHD)

oh, and no rattles! An amazing, rattle free drive, even after 9 months, I hope it persists!

Thanks for the thoughtful videos and shared experience! I've had my Grenadier for about 9 months. I agree with all you have stated with one exception.....the steering. I have not heard the complaint to be that the truck 'wanders around', but rather, there is a larger than acceptable 'dead zone'. I can rotate my wheel left and right a good bit before any reaction is felt by the vehicle, far more than on any other truck I have owned, forget about the vehicles equipped with rack and pinion (no comparison). The quality of the Grenadier is undeniable in my opinion, but the steering does not live up to the rest of the truck, and unfortunately it is something you interact with every time you drive. I will say, it is predominantly an issue at speeds greater than 45mph (75kph) on-road. Day to day, around town and off road, it is not a noticeable....but at greater speeds....it could be improved no doubt. Like you, it brings a smile every time I get in, driving or not.

Thank you for sharing from your experience and your thoughts. You have.DRIVEN MY THOUGHTS in a different direction about a new vehicle. You don’t have to give them slack.

Car in warranty and in the workshop for 3 weeks waiting for a part??? WTF??? I would not buy one of these based on that alone. This is a new breed for Australia and you would think they would at least airfreight the parts to keep the customer happy. Aside from that yes I would never buy the first of any model run. Preferably the last. Overall it looks the goods but i'll wait and see how the re-sale value goes before I dip in and buy one. Thanks for the review.

I do not own one. I have seen Brown and Davies advertising, they have made a bigger fuel tank for the vehicle.

Rump coat or Line C the step

Great review John! We're currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...

Thank you a lot. We won't buy it

How can you be unbiased, if you have 100 000 in it ?

Let see no BS review after 60 or even 120 months😅

Thank you for sharing

John, I appreciate your comments, and am very much on a parallel with you. I have had mine now for several months, but have only done 5335 km, mostly farm related. Had it parked with windscreen sun shield. saw nothing at that time, but a couple of days later had a crack developed. Must be two months now, still no replacement available. At least passenger visor largely hides it from my view. There is an ongoing message that a service is overdue, the days overdue increases day by day even if the vehicle just stands unused for several days. It is a very slight irritation because the msg last for long enough to hide other info at regular intervals. Regards, Hector. Kingaroy

*You never buy a Billionaires Pet Project product till the 5th year!*

I just bought a set of Pirelli AT+ for my Pajero. Tyre shop steered me away from LT’s pointing out that they generally have less grip on the wet due to less flex and harder compound designed for heavier loads.

Video was helpful. Thanks

I did mine myself too. I used my bonnet as a workbench when peeling off the backing

Is it necessary to have a zaleo or sat phone between albany and esperance?

Well after all it's a retro vehicle. And keeping up with retro vehicles when SUVs first came out parts or insanely expensive. So I guess as a joke they're keeping the part expensive to make the vehicle more retro!!! It adds to the authenticity of the vehicle.

Wow! This guy's tone has changed quite a bit. Did Inoes pay you?

I'm 6'3" and the footrest is fine. Not sure what the fuss is about.

Hi John. I have had my Grenadier for a similar length of time to you (since August 2023), now have 25,000+ on the clock, maninly outback touring - totally agree with your thoughts. Apart from the rear camera, my only other concern is the windscreen - had one replaced in first month and now need another one - virtually any stone that hits it , crack it. Mean I drive very defensively on remote roads. Other issue I had was one of the door hinges broke internally - not a big issue and replacement covered on warrantly but required a respray of the door as the hinge itself is external!!

I recently installed the same, had same issues with bushings but Kaon were good to deal with and fast response.

Hi John. There are plenty of Australian made products out there.. look at " Get Good Gear", and we also have some products in the line. Our " Project Simpson" cargo system is taking shape and should have a prototype ready for testing before xmas.

I know Aussie get upside down confused but didn’t realise front and rear was a problem 😂😂

Good to see you’re doing well! When are you doing the Canning Stock Route? P.S someone should make a carbon fibre roof rack that’s very light but strong.

I have just had a set of Drifta drawers and fridge slide fitted today at their Gloucester factory I am very happy with them and the quality is excellent.

I skipped the bushes as I couldnt work it out, but will call KAON and ask to send the right ones. worst part was taking out the factory cargo barrier a few words may have been said

They should let the bloke who designed or built the thing write the note in the box of new parts , it would go something like this "We had a bit of a stuff up but here are the right parts " . not wishy washy airy fairy PR talk that only makes it worse .

Looks like it might be a little closer to the ceiling compared to Bison product, meaning not quite the same storage capacity. Could just be the camera angle I guess. My shelf is approximately 190 mm between roof lining and rack.

Hi John, like you I wanted Aussie made too, so I waited for Kaon to design theirs and I can say I'm more than happy with it. I bought the shelf and lightweight barrier as a kit and it fits my needs perfectly. Thanks for the video! Keep them coming. Enjoy your trip overseas!

Nice work John.

Used and have a lot of Kaon products and they are usually pretty good, professionally made and look the goods. Hard working Australian company.

I’m from Texas and appreciate your honesty. What would “needle” on yours is driving on the right side of the vehicle. The one I’m planning on getting has a left hand drive. Just kidding with you man!

Welcome to niche market products. Expect these expenses. Not everyone can afford ineos and there is a reason.