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can you take your motorhome away for a few hours and come back with it

Hideous looking camper

Thank you for the reality checks . Like it or not we live in a supply and demand market. This is one of the side effects of a dysfunctional government, destroying the cash in our pockets.

Great informative videos enjoyed that😊😊👏👏

Thanks for the video and analysis Andrew. After only 9 months we're trying to sell a 2023 well specced layout we realised didn't work for us. We know we're going to lose a significant amount. That's life. It's taking a long time though. But I suppose what we're looking to buy as a replacement will also be lower. But for now we're in limbo. I wish I wasn't watching these videos and was out of the market. 😢

Great summary of the market. It’s all very quiet out there, which is normal for the pre Christmas period but where there is a genuine bargain there is a little movement. Let’s hope the spring brings more action and the dealers can get busy again. Have a great December 👍🏻😃🚐💙 Trev

Hi keep going you are doing a Good Job thanks Andrew.

Hi. I have a 2024 Swift Voyager 594 automatic with Ford cab which I am up plating to 4000kg without any modifications through Svtech. Excellent motorhome, so far.

With an A class I never bought one because if the screen cracks, you will probably wait a long time for a replacement.

I think Coachman need to step up their game. Wood is too dark, shower too small, front windows too small and the curtain fabrics are nasty. The control panel is tech from 1980s with no app connectivity. The fruit bowl sink looks nice but isn't practical, wet hands dribble all over the counter when turning the tap off. The light switches are in silly places and it's a guess which light every time you use them and the lighting is pretty poor too. Not sure why they've switched to the thetford fridges, personally I think the dometics were better and looked much nicer. Also, the rear panel design means that water drips off the brake light onto the ledge below and it's like chinese water torture through the night. All a bit dated and frumpy and lacking modern tech. Its a shame because the build quality is fantastic, just let down by poor design. I'm upgrading my 2021 845 and going for a Swift Elegance instead. It addresses all those issues and is a much nicer and more modern van. Catch up Coachman! Forgot to mention the taped seams on the walls that peels off 😠

Thanks 🙏

Nice pic son. 📸

Short of money as stock is not selling

I think many business owners are looking at this new governments heavy taxing policy and just thought , it’s time to pack up and walk away.

Oh dear that's sad 😢

Thanks for your views on the market. It's interesting to hear other thoughts. We're trying to sell a higher end young van. Being new to motorhoming I can't believe the difference in part exchange prices. On a used van many dealers won't accept px despite saying so in their advertising. Others have offered in the low £50's. On a new 2025 van we've been offered up to £70k. But we've abandoned looking at brand new because in my opinion the extra capital input can't be justified for the lack of added value frankly. We're selling through a broker instead and will then try to buy a 3-5 year old van.

Great video & great insight in to the market at the moment. Another thing that’s bugging me just now is the warranty. iv called around 8 dealers enquiring about a van in the £60,000 range and they are all offering 3 month warranty and when i query this some say we can extend to 6 months. There is no way on this earth im parting with over £60,000 and getting a 3-6 month warranty. it all seems ludicrous to me. Second hand cars of that value will get 12 months at least. The market is definitely cooling down and for me dealers need to trust what they are selling & over a little bit more

£40K for a 17 plate.. you would have to be absolutely mental to pay that

Interesting view of the market. We sold our motorhome back to our dealer at the end of May. Out of curiosity I keep an eye on the dealer website (one of the dealers you featured in your video) Interestingly it seems not to have sold in five months and they have only recently reduced the asking price by £2000. It was a 19 plate van with less than 10000 miles on the clock and quite a few upgrades like Alloys, MaxxAir and Bike Rack. I am beginning to think I got quite a good deal.

Karma is a bitch

Hi Guys. As evidence for your market updates, though for new CamperVans, without naming the Dealership, in-process of buying a brand new Swift Carrera CamperVan 2025 model, so brand new, delivered before Xmas to Dealership, with nearly £5000 discounted, part NEC discounts, part Dealership discounts. Interesting times in this genre of leisure industry. What appears to be happening, perception based only as have no data, people like myself, are buying CamperVans they like, but not at the expensive real high end (£90,000 & above) & then adding a lot of aftermarket mods (Lithium battery upgrades, internet, full air suspension, self levelling, off-road wheels for look and practicality, diesel heaters, further winterisation above heated fresh and waste water tanks, with thermal rapping, so really can use in all weathers off grid, plus a host of other add-ons I will not list here. Then at least you get the CamperVan you want and not what a manufacturer, large or small believes it’s customer’s want. Plus ends-up a lot cheaper over-all. Informative video again, thank-you, as agree with all views expressed in this video. Personally, pop-tops, are for a certain type of camper, as likely to be more seasonal than all year round types. This is due to heat egress, damp ingress and high winds or really bad weather, has to be dropped and closed. Living in UK if wanting to get all year round use and value from purchase, especially in scenic places by the South West Coast or Highlands of Scotland, then a pop-top, has this consideration. But great extra space for families in a smaller space vehicle who are seasonal campers. I see the CamperVan, Motorhome market as very similar to the housing market. Lots of supply, though much is not of high quality meaning not high sales, though they are trickling along with the quality, as it is a buyers market with choice. So the supply is building-up, which means at some point something has to give, as with all supply and demand. It is also the time of year I see far too many Motorhomes and CamperVans driving around UK roads on summer tyres. Minimum should be on All Season, if not Winter graded tyres, as these 4 tyres are the only thing connecting you to the road. People don’t due to cost of changing out between winter and summer, or from pure ignorance, but for normally less than £600 to £800, depending on quality of tyre manufacture, it is nothing when compared to cost of saving your life or that of other road users or pedestrians. Think winter, think tyres, even windscreen wipers, as summer wipers are different from winter wipers! Thanks guys!

Really loving the style of your channel. New friend here from Facebook. Looking forward to seeing your trips soon. Warm wishes from Millionaire Paul 👋

Just found you from facebook! Watched and enjoyed but they're all a wee bit bigger than our tiny Berlingo miceo-camper!! Full watch from new friend Millionaire Paul 👋

One of a few gimmicks that Swift & other manufacturers produce, to help ‘sell’ leisure industry vehicles. Know how you use a leisure vehicle, understand practical application of layouts, which then saves getting a vehicle, with a space-waster table set-up as exampled in this video. That said, on Swift’s customer research analysis a number of years ago, their older & younger customers were asking for such a gadget table. Once they saw it & used it, they told Swift they did not like it. Issue is Swift had already ordered the components and this is why the table is still fitted in current models. Lesson to be learned surely! When giving feed-back, have costumers seriously done their own real needs analysis and practicality thinking process, to such recommendations they make. Simple answer, ‘No’. So blame Swifts customer survey base, not necessarily Swift. That said, they are as culpable, as they did not market test the actual item properly, before brining it to market. Yet, crazily, people still buy these vehicles when they know already in their minds this table is not practical & takes-up undue space. So arguably, it’s a gimmick that worked! Kudos to Swift!

For all the issues with Swift quality, at least they are British & we should all support British businesses who employ British workers. Swift market pricing compared to other large or small manufacturers, is aimed more at an affordability customer, than the wealthy classes. Anything that moves, shakes, vibrates and becomes loose, is the reality of motion. If entering this luxury leisure industry genre of holidaying, just like a Camper living under canvass in a tent, you need to be your own handy fixer type of person. Sadly, many live in a utopia world dislocated from reality of facts with any item that moves and is driven. We live in a world where people want perfection while not willing to pay for it. As I describe it, the office class or workers moving to an out of office leisure industry find straight away, the simple compatibility or realistic expectations is dislocated, due to lack of knowledge and experience with practicality. The first thing I ever loaded into a tent, a caravan and then a CamperVan was my tool box, with everything from spare screws, brackets, glue, tape, fuzes and tools. Utrinque Paratus, translated, means ‘Ready For Anything’. It evidences how society would collapse very quickly in modern societies in time of National Emergencies, as the ruggedness, adaptability with lateral thinking of us as humans, is not as common as opinions of complaints always expressed by keyboard, microphone & camera. But, as long as we learn from experiences, adjust expectations, then we minimise dislocation and mental health issues. All of that said, you are correct with issues of quality in UK manufacturing and this leisure industry as a whole. It is a little part of the reason, the industry demand is falling, even though supply has increased. Like buying a car, you test, trial EVERYTHING before leaving the dealership. Every handover of a caravan or CamperVan I’ve done, often to the frustration of the dealership, I take 2 whole days to complete. This is so all snags are identified, evidenced and repairs completed, before I hand-over money and I drive off. Due to snags found, from day of initial hand-over, I haven’t left a dealership with my new vehicle, within that same week as handover day. The world is cruel and you have to be direct, firm, but respectful to get the large money buy (Anything over £50 for me) at the standard you are expecting. Best of luck and hopefully both your experiences will have taught you much, hardened your views on taking-over items at a dealership and made you plan ahead for the unknown realities of an item, that has motion, which evidently will have the need to be constantly fixed.

Great vlog and ideas. We were at the NEC last month and still like the layout and finish of the swift 640. We compared it to 6 or 7 other brands some of which seemed to have a solid build, but we still felt more comfortable in the swift.

Thanks for posting. I have seen and heard many comments from owners who have said that their old caravan was built better than their new one. But you have put a bit of "meat on the bones" and explained why. 👍

Love the coachman range. Definitely the brand of choice for us if we switched back to caravans but probably a smaller model. 👍🏻💙 Trev n Sue

Ferry Meadows site and park are ok . Just don't go into Peterborough 🤮

Sounds like some great content coming. Enjoy your half term break 😃👍🏻 Trev n Sue

Looks a lovely site. Hope you had a fab time 👍

Awful idea!!! It's put us off buying one, we'll go for a MH with a fold out table.

Don’t think we will ever use the table in full position. Only had the van 4 days and already a niggle, absolutely agree with you can’t get legs under and round the leg, stupid position. Wish I had the know how to take it out but then wouldn’t have option to covert to a bed on the odd occasion it will be needed!

Such a silly feature, when a fold out table would be sufficient and not get in the way as much. And in the long run, I'm sure it won't be too long before the motor or the leg itself will need replacing, like a drop-down bed motor, etc.

Video to fast

A useful analysis as ever, thank you. Amazing that there are still new 2023 models at dealers. And of course all this discounted new stock will ripple down to the used market. I think it's going to mean motorhomers holding onto their vans for longer to avoid suffering losses. Turning over after a short ownership is going to be costly in this market sadly.

That was enjoyable it looks like an immaculate site.😊👏👏

Some of their van prices are mad mind you 2009 Apharo was reduced to 49K , you can pick them up for around 30K now as need a C1 and very old-fashioned inside. Some of the dealers are offering discounts BUT their prices were in a few cases way too high on used stock. Seems people aren't dropping used prices as much now but some vans are sitting on forecourts a while. Tried haggling with some and not going far enough to move their older stock as they bought over price stock.

Very well put together and encouraging. I’m chomping on the bit for a purchase, but realise going in to the winter there is no point pushing ahead too soon. From experience some dealers won’t entertain even the smallest discount on the listed price, confident there is still momentum at this time of year. That may well change over the winter, I hope! All the best.

Great guys fantastic campsite hope you both enjoyed the welsh hospitality

Thanks for your intelligent & impartial overviews. As ever, in the end it is the market which determines the prices, if the market deems the deals good, the vans (just like any commodity) will sell.

Why are you only on the side of the manufacturers ? It’s the public who will decide if vans are value for money not the likes of you kiss arses ? Why don’t you report on the trade in values for the same companies you pander after ? They are ripping people off offering piss por trade ins well below there market values

That was interesting very informative 😊😊

Thank you for your advice. I’m new to this and have already bought two motorhomes secondhand that were not suitable, when we actually used them. A lot to study before parting with money

these are not good deals there still overpriced

What lovely memories

Really enjoyed that wish I was back there 😊👏👏

Good morning guys quick question what dash cam do you use please

Hi guys great bit of filming are you going to invest in some alko hy4 system next

You can’t blame them for the 4g signal, can you?