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Detroit 4-53 Differences ( N, T, Silver Series )
Differences between the different models of 4-53's.:)
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2009 Ford 5R110 50,000 Mile Filter Change ( Remote Filter Cut Open )
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Baldwin BT237 filter with 50,000 miles cut open.:)
Detroit Silver 4-53T Rebuild (Liners, Crank, Cam, Counter Shaft)
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Dry fitting liners, installing crank, camshaft and balance shaft.:)
Detroit Silver 4-53T Rebuild (Block And Crank Prep)
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Pressure washing the block and polishing two journals on the crank. The cranks suffered some water damage, so had to polish those spots out.:)
Detroit Silver 4-53T Tear Down ( Diamond In The Rough)
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Finished the teardown on the Silver 4-53T I just bought for $250.00 USD.:) Very happy with the shape of the engine. I'll proceed to measure all the parts and order the needed replacement parts to build the engine back up.:)
Detroit 4-53T Silver Rescue
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Saved another Silver 4-53T from the scrappers. Tear down next video to see what's still good.:)
Junk In The Trunk (Detroit Silver 4-53T)
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Picked up another scrap Detroit Silver 4-53T, see what parts I can use.:) #detroit 4-53T #short
Detroit 2-53 Converting Fuel To Noise
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Cleaning the shop with a quick run to a neighbors shop to drop off some steel.:)
Detroit 4-53 (Pulling Seized Liners)
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Pulling some liners that are seized from decades of sitting outside and a look at some worn parts.:)
8000 Subscribers (Thankyou)
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Just passed the 8000 subscriber count.:) Thanks.:)
Detroit 2-53 update (45 Hrs)
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Little Jimmy has 45.5 hrs since the swap into Allis and running really nice. Haven't had to do any work on the swap since installed, so very happy with the results.:)
Detroit 4-53 Tear Down
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1970 Detroit 4-53 out of a Timber Jack 440 skidder. I bought two of these engines for parts and dismantling this one to see what parts are salvageable.:)
1989 Bayliner Capri 1750 (3RD Season 100 HRS)
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Bayliner update, fixed all the issues from last season and boat is running great. Happy times.:)
Detroit 4-53T Converting Fuel To Noise
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Detroit 4-53T Converting Fuel To Noise
Detroit 4-53T (Does Your Pickup Have Jakes)
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Detroit 4-53T (Does Your Pickup Have Jakes)
Detroit 4-53T 60,000 Mile Update The Good And Bad
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Detroit 4-53T 60,000 Mile Update The Good And Bad
1948 Diamond T 509S Part 4 (Cab Extension)
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1948 Diamond T 509S Part 4 (Cab Extension)
Detroit 4-53T 1400 Mile Trip On Used Vegetable Oil
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Detroit 4-53T 1400 Mile Trip On Used Vegetable Oil
1948 Diamond T (Body Work On The Fenders And Rust)
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1948 Diamond T (Body Work On The Fenders And Rust)
1948 Diamond T Detroit Truck Part 3 (Grill Mounts)
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1948 Diamond T Detroit Truck Part 3 (Grill Mounts)
1948 Diamond T Detroit Pickup Build Part 2 (Cab Mounts)
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1948 Diamond T Detroit Pickup Build Part 2 (Cab Mounts)
1948 Diamond T Detroit Pickup Build Part 1
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1948 Diamond T Detroit Pickup Build Part 1
Detroit 4-53T Test Fitting Diamond T 509S
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Detroit 4-53T Test Fitting Diamond T 509S
Detroit 4-53T (Needs A Third Muffler)
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Detroit 4-53T (Needs A Third Muffler)
silver Detroit's have such big oil coolers they sometimes get in the way of stuff. What do you think about deleting the oil cooler and running a remote in front of the radiator? I've been thinking about that for a while, but the darn water pump becomes a problem.
How do you keep track of all those bolts, what goes where? I see you put lots in tin cans. You must have a good memory! Thanks for the video.
After a while you remember where they go.:) If I ever forget I can always consult the manual.:) Thanks for watching.:)
Is there a stand alone controller to run the 5r110 in your superduty?
There are, but it's better to run the Ford PCM/TCM and tune with HPTuners. That's what I did and it works like factory.
@@detroitgarage9430 that's awesome. Last I checked (years ago) there were no options for that. I'd love one behind my 7.3
@@craiga9492 They're a really nice trans.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 they certainly. I have one in my superduty but the 6.0 isnt as nice
I'm rebuilding a 4-53 and need to pull the liners. I see those liner remover tools like you used, a pin, but they are like $50. Could you make one for me? I would pay you for that of course. Thank you.
I don't have any in stock and gave my last one away. Easy to make without a lathe. Just use 7/16" threaded rod and drill and tap some aluminum bar. You can even use a bolt or aluminum bar stock, just be careful it doesn't protrude past the outer edges of the liner.:)
Hey there's a RUclipsr j.c.smithprojects who's trying to get rid of a running 453. There's a recent short on his channel about it, last one at the top. Just letting you know if you might be interested in another engine or if you know anyone who looking for one. I didn't see an email for you so this is the only way I can relay the message to you.
Awesome swap! I have an old Clark Forklift with a 3-53 in it, what would you recommend for oil? Think the Valvoline VR1 Racing SAE40 would be as good as any or should I go with a Rotella T1 SAE40, or would a more common/easy to find 15w40 be ok? I have no idea on service history or whats in it currently, but it runs like a top, just needs some maintenance - it has the original belts on it and every grease fitting took about 20 pumps to hear it coming out. Thanks in advance and great info on the channel!! Oh, any other suggestions or things to keep my eyes open for on this old girl? Thanks so much!!
Thanks, I've never tried the VR1 oil, but run Rotella T1 SAE40. If you can get Chevron Delo 100 SAE 40 that's even better. I've not run 15W40 in it as not recommended by Detroit.:) Oils have come a long way since they made those recommendations.:) Other than oil, filter and air cleaner replacements that's about it. I check the valves and injector timing every 1000 hrs or so.:) Only slight adjustments are made.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 40 it is, thanks so much for the reply and keep up the awesome channel man!
Just thought I would share a link to my project truck. ruclips.net/video/gHPZ-Ty8DoE/видео.htmlsi=YUCbVn37fkErKzdX
good info..
Thanks.:)
I thought you said you were leaving the back cap at 50 ?
Rear cap at 50 until the thrust washers are seated, then to 130 for all the bolts.:)
Is there any chance an 8v92 fits?
It's possible, but not without a lot of fab work. The 8V92T is a huge engine and would need something stronger than an F550 chassis. Probably have to upgrade to an F650-700 chassis, then it's possible.:)
The level of integration into the Ford pickup is what’s truly amazing here. A lot of folks can put a Detroit and big, lazy old Allison in a newer chassis and have it run and move…..you made this 60 year old engine design work with the factory gauges, factory dash / HVAC setup…..and that’s an electrical nightmare. Truly all the props go to you for such a clean, well integrated install.
Thanks, I wanted to make a Detroit swap that looked and operated like factory. At the start of the swap I had no idea what I would need to do to integrate the old Detroit to work with both a computerized cab and transmission. Fortunately I found HPTuners and the swap helper to make this happen. I've now got 65,000 mile on the swap and running great.:) The 5R110 is shifting perfect and not making any metal, so happy times.
Finally got to try to fire up my 4-53N and had no luck ....the rack was stuck on two injectors ....and those same two injectors were also stuck, or rather they depressed and stuck once i rolled the engine over. Odd thing those injectors are both C50's cyl 1 and 3 .....cylinders 2 and 4 freed up and they are both N50's. Is there any reason two run mismatched injectors and better yet is there good reason not too?
Probably missed matched because they didn’t have a set of 4 of either injectors, so they just used what they had. I’ll check the manual in the morning and see what mm the c50 is compared to n50’s. Probably the same fueling. I’ve run across this on one engine, but really don’t recommend running mismatched injectors. Having said that I testing 2 7A77’s and 2 7E75’s on the dyno to see if I can notice any difference.
OK I checked the N50 vs C50 and they deliver the same fuel, so almost identical. The plunger stroke is slightly different, but not enough that Jimmy would know. Who ever swapped the C50's with the N50's knew this.:) P.S. They also share the same tips.:)
@detroitgarage9430 thank you for that info. Last question you wouldn't happen to know the timing dimension on those would you ? .... I am assuming the standard 1.48x ?
Aggghhhhh!. Soaked my stuck injectors over night in fresh diesel. Pulled em out cleaned all the passages with carb cleaner. And rapped the first one with a soft faced hammer. Popped up and freed the rack. A little lube and worked it by hand and good to go. On to the second one .... rapped it twice with a soft face hammer and the top "follower" portion broke into 3 pieces ...the flat that the rocker contacts.
@@greywuuf 1.47" for the C injectors and 1.46 for the N injectors.:) I'd just use 1.47" and that would work well.:)
great stuff, thanks as always for sharing. a coupla questions, if you have a moment, please - what is different with your modified cam, running in the Ford? - how does the amended pressure setting changes things, with your modified blower bypass? - would you consider doing a similar tear-down, of a Bivens 8V96, for us all to learn about the magic modifications? )
The cam is a V7 high lift cam that's been ground with a different profile I bought from Leid Diesel. The profile they've used is a closely kept secret that they won't share. I'm told that combined with the tall port liners give the engine more air combined with the N blower.:) I'm build the next Silver back to Detroit specs to see how well it runs compared to my engine.:) The blower bypass opens at 10 psi turbo boost and works very well. I've tried 5-6 psi opening pressures, but wasn't clean burning at the 5-6 psi, so 10 is very clean. Engine makes 12 psi boost and with the water meth on 16.:) Again I'll be running comparison test on the dyno to see which blower works best for the larger injectors. If I could find a cheap Bivens 8V96, I'd maybe do a teardown, but they're almost impossible to find. The 8V92, and Bivens 8V96 are just too large for my use.:)
Do you know of anyone who has installed a screw compressor in place of the roots blower?
I have only seen one on RUclips with a whipple supercharger, no updates that I can find on the performance. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/iQ0F-tFruYE/видео.html
In addition to the mentioned differences, didn't T blowers also have revised rotor to rotor and rotor to housing clearances to accommodate higher temperatures and larger rotor flex?
Yes, the clearances are great for the T blowers. When using an N Blower on a T engine the rotors need to be shaved a little to increase the clearances.:)
The blow by on turboed Ns is the piston the oil drain back holes in the top oil ring groove let turbo boost from the airbox blow into the crankcase drive pins or rivets can be driven into the drain back holes to prevent the blowby problem. The wide oil ring in the top groove is another way to control blowby on the N,T combination the piston skirts and oil ring package is a good piston to look at to see the changes on T engines to stop blow-by and.oil consumption
Thanks Joe.:)
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I like roller 🛼🎢 bearings ceramic coating portable boxs cutter depends on the mm diameter of crankshaft n cam skf split cage cooper bearing let it roll instead of weld some use copper but I like letting it roll not weld
Not sure what you said, but I'll roll with it.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 as main bearings
@@detroitgarage9430 I believe ceramic ball bearing turbo is better than journey bush bearings is what I'm saying at extreme rpms 4500 6900 turbo diesel
@@Latuya-y1n Ah, gotcha.:) I'm running journal bushings and 360 thrust washers and that works pretty nice. I haven't tried the ceramic bearings yet, but may for this dyno build and compare them.:)
Thanks for the breakdown helped me find the issue with my pump. Fuelreturn thermostat tired, random fuel pressures throughout a day of driving. Changed everytime the truck was allowed to cool down.
You're welcome, plagued me for some time until I figured it out.:)
Yeah kept thinking I was screwing up the orings in thw regulator. But nope. 190k on pump and shes tired@@detroitgarage9430
My dad used a 4-53 Detroit diesel in his 1954 clam boat. He owned it for nearly thirty years and didn’t have a single problem with it.
Awesome, love hearing those kind of stories.:)
1040! Incredible machine. We had one at PenAir. True outlier with tons of capabilty! Thanks for the nostalgia!
They were an awesome machine, that's for sure.:) I think I logged close to 2000 hrs on that machine.:)
I think the t was more like 85 horsepower. Not 185
The industrial 4-53T is 175 HP and the Silver T was 185 HP. The N was rated at 108-130 HP.:)
It would be nice to section a cracked cylinder head with a bandsaw to see if it's possible to machine dogbones in. Might be a good mod. The reason I mention it, Wayne on Ol2Stroker last week was showing the world's only common rail 8V92 and they stressed it in racing and it failed. Its heavily modified. Anyhow, after solving one problem they cracked a cylinder head (or both) and I said in the comments, "You overcome one power limiting factor - the Detroit injection system only to find the cylinder heads are now the weak spot. Hot rodding that." "He replied, we have a plan." We'll have to wait I suppose since the vid was only a few days ago (but there might be a lead time in his vids so who knows?). After you showed the dogbone in the head surface, I can't help but wonder if it's possible now and that might be how they solve cracking at very high power outputs. (I'm saving this comment in Word to repost just in case lol)
Very good Thanks
HP-what percent of aftermarket parts you are using are chinesium?
All the parts are US made either genuine Detroit (used) or new FP parts. Foe the Turbo's the compressor wheel and bearings are Chinese.:)
Compared to the 1970's or 1980's.........turbo's have progressed a a lot to where they are now. Generally speaking, the compressor sections pump more boost at lower temperatures......it can be as much as 50% more air density.
Very true, I'm going to be testing the stock Garrett, then compare it to a modified garrett and then new turbo's. I'm running a new compressor wheel 59mm on my Silver and love it.:)
yeah the blower drives were a problem on engines such as the 6v53 turbo
Andrewsmart the blower drive can be up dated as the 92 series to prevent the blower drive from being an issue
@@joemaser9122 no i found the 92 to be a pig of an engine,worked on a fleet of domino buses with the 6v92 and allison autos,there were 3 different revisions of the v92 blower drive and they a;ll snapped like carrots or stripped the splines,the deluxe coach fleet had a mix of 8v71's and 6v92TA and TTA and the 8v71's used to have to pull over and sit cos they were to far ahead of shedule LOL,and it still made the kalbarri-perth run 2 hours ahead of time LOL,i clocked them at 160km/h on a few occaiasions
Thank you for this video. I've been around a lot of N's and remember maybe one T but never looked at the inside of a silver. I'm smarter after watching! Lol . This kind of educational video is great. Thank you again.
Thanks and thanks for watching.:)
Is it possible to correspond with you directly somehow? ...I have a similar old project truck ( 52 gmc 630) and would like some input on a few of the project goals and how i plan to achieve them. I value your input as you have a similar situation to mine here in Alaska as far as parts and weather and general expectations. As far as range and being remote and possibly a little farther from roadside assistance
Sure, you can email me at emerald310@gmail.com or call me @ 778-477-1745.:)
Whats your trans and gearing? Asking for a friend 😅
I'm running the Ford 5R110 auto with 3.73 gears.:)
Thanks for the great video. Nice to see the difference on the 453's. The GMC's in the late 70's with the 453T's were horrible. Noisy, stunk of diesel, leaked oil, bad power band. But the 453T's were replaced by the Detroit 8.2L Fuel Pincher. What a disaster.
Yeah the 8.2 was nasty.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Not in a pickup that's were all 8.2 should have went in Chevy pickups and they would have owned market share
Had blower drive gears fail alot on 353 slack in teeth noise broke teeth on backhoes old 190 Dynahoe
Thanks, I've been lucky so far.:)
The main oil gallery on a N series is 5/8 inch diameter and on the T series the main oil gallery is 3/4 inch diameter for more oil to cool the pistons and as you said the larger oil cooler is there to keep temperatures under control and a very good talk about 53 series history and development thank you Detroit Garage well done. The dyno should be fun.
Thanks Joe, something else I never knew.:)
@joemaser9122 is the main oil galley straight and accessible? Would it be possible or beneficial to hone the galley on an N block larger ? Or is the casting to thin ? ( probably questions I could answer myself if I were to disassemble and inspect mine ...but it is running and stored off sight currently)
@@greywuuf Possibly, I'll have a peek and see.
@@greywuufThe first N I turboed I discovered the difference and decided to open up the N oil passage I figured Detroit had a reason so I made a 11/16 drill bit long enough to drill the length of the block. You must check the block to make sure there's enough metal so as not to drill out the side of the casting
U don't happen to have the rotor part number. I have a blower off a N 4-53 that looks like yours. One rotor froze and cracked. Rest of it looks fine
Yes the N rotor part number is 5139298.:)
I always wondered about putting a radius on the liner ports to let the air in better?
Yeah, that's why I went with the tall port liners on my Silver in my truck. Going to see how the short port liners do.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Time to put a liner on the flow bench inside a part of a block
Great vid
Thanks.:)
Hola Señor ,veo sus vídeos. Tengo un problema con un 3.53 muy antiguo .me sube aceite a un cilindro saliendo por el escape .es mucha cantidad ,se le colocaron aros nuevos ,las camisas son muy usadas . Estoy en argentina. Revice nuevamente aros y pistón sin encontrar nada . Usted me podría dar su opinión ya que preciso hacerlo funcionar los otros dos cilindros andan bien ,sin nada raro ..solo el tercero me hace ese problema .bueno Se espero pueda leer el texto y darme su opinión,por acá no hay muchos motores de esos .pero bueno ,es muy sencillo,pero tengo ese problema y no le encuentro lógica del por qué. Desde ya muchísimas gracias .mi nombre es Marcelo y soy de Bs As ..gran abrazo ,y exelente los videos suyos .
Revisaría el retenedor del pasador del pistón y confirmaría que no tenga fugas. Si mantienen el vacío, reemplace los revestimientos y los anillos.
@@detroitgarage9430 muchísimas gracias Sr .a eso voy . Muy amable .
Thank you so much for sharing this. Makes me feel as though I can use most of what I have ( '76 453N) without courting disaster to bad.
I'm glad it's helpful.:) Thanks for watching.:)
Good job and thank you. I run a 4-53N in my old USN utility boat which now serves as an USCG Auxiliary Patrol Facility. Always wondered if slapping a turbo on would be helpful. Now I know better. Cudos for putting a DD4-53 into a F350!
Thanks and thanks for watching.:)
the only issue you would have in a marine application would be the valves and seats
Nice info on these motors. I think the turbine measurements are in mm and not inches.
Yes, mm's.:) Maybe I said inches in the video, but yes mm's.:)
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Olá, faça um teste com tinner PU mesmo sem desmontar, pra descolar o elemento do bico! Prende na morsa e introduza o tinner pelo niple de entrada e vá acionando a cremalheira, devagar. Repita, se necessário e, posteriormente, vá acionando a mola do êmbolo junto com o movimento da cremalheira e estará livre pra desmontar e limpar efetivamente. Isso é bem rápido e ñ corre o risco de perder o elemento/êmbolo da bomba, ok?
Obrigado, acho mais rápido e fácil desmontar os injetores se eles estiverem emperrados. Dessa forma posso limpar as peças e inspecioná-las. Se alguma não puder ser reparada, substituo as peças desgastadas. :)
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Excellent, great information thank you.
Thanks, and thanks for watching.:)
I'd love a 4-53 Silver Series in little S10 single-cab.
Now that would be a fun project.:)
It would be fun to convert 4-53 to common rail like Wayno's friend did to crusty fat cab
That would be a sweet setup.:)
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Is the bypass valve the same on all Detroit engines i.e 53 to 92? How do you know if it's working or not? I would love to see you take one apart and rebuild it if that's a thing.
The valves are pretty much the same. Very simple unit and really nothing to rebuild. Can be tested using vacuum and also on the engine by comparing airbox pressure to turbo boost. When the valve opens the airbox pressure should fall and be close to the turbo boost.:)
Have you had the transmission pan off to check the internal filter and bottom of the pan for wear materials since you’ve had this transmission in the truck? I love cutting g filters and seeing how they did.
No, the pans never been off since I swapped it.:) It's the same trans I bought from the auction and used for testing and tuning. Maybe a future video, very happy with the 5R110.:)