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As an alternative to the official controller, I think the Brawler fares better, if only because its analog sticks don't swivel under stressful gaming sessions. I had no idea that the price had spiked. I think at the time of making this , the controller could be found anywhere from $10-20 but sometimes randomly it would go for $50. Then again, this was before cvid, which by the actions of our governments and reckless spending, caused everything to double to triple in price.

That is odd. I am not familiar with the technical details of flash carts. My guess is the flash cart just loads a game and doesn't provide any emulation of the hardware which could compensate for possible incompatibility. Are there any missing features in the non-32X / SVP Virtua Racing? Things like missing graphics or sounds would be an issue. You can run a 32X on a Sega Genesis without powering it and the resulting output lacks some graphics and sound. I don't know if it's harmful to do so, but I did it by accident several(!) times :) Maybe it has something to do with how the ROM is loaded through the pins. I remember reading that the 32X and Power Base Converter have an extra pair of pins that are absent on on model 3 / 2, though the 32X works with the model 2. I haven't looked into it in a while, but it has something to do with how the device sends data to / from the Z80. How a flash cart could circumvent that, sending data through some other bus yet the system still know how to read the data in a different place is beyond me. Again, I have no idea why that would work. The root cause of the incompatibility with certain 32X games and model 2 would be very interesting to know. It could be a multi-factorial issue and not so simply explained for each variation. All speculation. Thank you for your insight. I do want to update the video, but I get swamped with work.

​@@WhatsOnMyShelf I found Virtua Racing to run perfectly fine without any issue whatsoever via flash cart on a VA1 Model 3. I recently got an original working cart of VR and tried that but it doesn't work as expected which makes that whole thing all the more interesting. You can still play Master System games on every Model 2. Either through flash carts or through the unofficial Power Base Mini with original Master System carts. Sega never did release a Power Base Converter designed for the Model 2 in North America but they did overseas though. Which was kind of too bad back then for people over here since Master System compatibility was still onboard. On a VA1 Model 3 you can run wires from pins on the GOAC to certain pins at the cartridge slot to restore Master System, Virtua Racing, 32X and Game Genie compatibility. Though I've read reported issues people had with some of the Master System games not working properly. That might be down to the GOAC design causing that if that's true. On a VA2 Model 3 only Virtua Racing and Game Genie can be restored since they cut things down even more on the board. I also came across an incompatibility with certain parts of the demo attract mode for a game called Psycho Pinball on the GOAC-based systems. At the same incompatible parts of the demo the VA4 Model 2 and Model 3 behave slightly different with the Model 3 actually handling those parts slightly better though still not great. Runs fine on any pre-GOAC system as far as I know. I could get more into it if you're interested but my comment's running fairly long. Your video highlights an interesting topic related to the Genesis, which would also apply to other systems too, that doesn't get talked about much except maybe for in dedicated threads & message boards. There should be more out there.

@@damianpamminger2841 I gained a lot of my knowledge by reading forums like Sega-16, though I'm nowhere near as experienced as the users in that forum. They might know the specifics about changes to the chips that caused specific incompatibilities and may have threads on the issue already. I always point people to Sega16 when discussing the model 2's sound, since there is a very good thread on the issue. The model 2 fixed sound errors present in the touted model 1. People are always surprised when I say the model 1 had sound errors.

@@damianpamminger2841 A thought struck me about how the data is loaded into GOAC vs pre. Could there be a formatting difference with the data parcels being sent? Is the flash cart sending data in a certain format that fixes (some / all) incompatibilities? I'm not sure if you are familiar with big endian and little endian data formatting schemes, but the idea is like having data packed or parsed in a certain way and the corresponding chip(s) know how to read it. I'm not suggesting that is an 'endian-issue'; however, it might be like input-graphics-sound vs sound-input-graphics where the flash cart is switching the order of data so that the system is being sent the correct data, based on it's type. Again, that's just a guess in the wind. I have no idea how to test the hypothesis.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf The whole topic on Genesis sound is fascinating and multi-faceted. Not only the general quality but also the little technical errors present with the Model 1 like you pointed out, which isn't a bad thing in this case and was actually used intentionally in creative ways as heard in the Streets Of Rage soundtracks, and certain games being programmed specifically with one of the two main models in mind causing very noticeably different behaviour on the opposite model. Earthworm Jim's first stage music slowing down on the Model 1 and Hellfire being sped up on the Model 2 (and 3) being prime examples. As a result, there's no one model or revision that's completely flawless in every aspect. I've done an extensive sound comparison project using Audacity covering basically every hardware variant and sound circuitry development - Model 1 (VA2, VA3, VA7), Model 2 (VA0, VA1, VA2.3, VA3, VA4), Model 3 (VA1), Sega CDX, JVC X'Eye and Sega Nomad. It's very interesting how they all stack up against each other in various ways using sound clips from various games. I personally agree with the popular opinion that the Model 1 VA3 is overall the best, and least flawed, while both the Model 2 VA0 and VA1 revisions are easily the worst. It's pretty crazy how much the audio was botched on those.

The only thing that makes a game expensive is if people care (in other words, hype).

You could commission someone on Etsy perhaps.

You kiddin :) Houses are crazy expensive and the rates are impossible. Homes start at 700K where I live. Most are +1M.

I agree, those who wanted these specific version would want them; however, the people buying primarily digital have a different mindset than those who fill shelves with plastic cases. I've encountered many 30+ year-olds who just aren't buying physical any more because of space. There is a hyper-focused attention on the physical supply of 360 games currently, and those who were always interested in getting physical feel the urge to buy before they believe games will hit prices that are unattainable for them. If people were casually picking up and selling games, there probably wouldn't be this spike in prices so fast, simply because the demand would not be there.

I just got an idea…. Gonna do a vid soon. Should I brand this new video as a response to this video?

When I stop. I’m dead.

I'm surprised by the response I got from this vid. I've got a ton of raw stuff too. I know if I started uploading daily videos of my finds which I haven't uploaded, people would get sick. I thought of doing it. I have over a hundred pickup vids not uploaded. I thought of doing a 100 days of pickups. Sad thing is that it's so hard to spend time doing this. California is rough, if you're not making 120k. The sad part is that I've got challengers at the gsale game who drive a Tesla. That's a house on wheels and the dude still wants to steal from my plate. Yeah, man, if you're up to it, I'd enjoy any vid you uploaded. I normally queue up new vids from the game scene on Saturday while I do jobby jobs :( so don't be disappointed if it takes a while for me to leave a comment.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf yeah I’m kinda the same. Put it up when I can. It’s not like this is going anywhere. lol. Also my computer needs to get fixed soon. I prefer that editing suite since I paid real money for it.

What is "rare" anyways?

Xbox One games in the UK are ABSURDLY cheap. It is absolutely incredible how many sealed (won't keep them sealed) games I have bought for £5 or less. Ok to Good games at that, not fodder. I picked up loads of Microsoft Studios games (Because they are on game pass) for under £3. Sunset Overdrive cost me £1.50 from CEX as did State of Decay 2. I am grabbing XONE games before these absolute mutant youtubers artificially inflate those prices once they have had their way with Xbox 360 and PS3 when that store closes.

@ChilliKnightOG Yeah, that's my thought, too. lol, xbox is so cheap. Why not, I'm mostly a pc player but have been getting into the series x. I also figured that the price increased rumors of Gamepass from a few months ago. I'd start buying it up, lol. I got lucky buying GameCube and 360 before they went crazy. Hopefully, that doesn't happen to Xbone, but you never know.

Good luck with that. There are tons of cheap sealed games for $10 and under, but there are SO MANY GAMES! Man, there was a time I would know most of the new releases.

@WhatsOnMyShelf yeah it's rough lol but with the gamestop 4 for 20 and the but 2 get 1 it makes it's alot easier

I wonder how it got there. I played some of the PS2 version and thought the concept was unique, but pretty niche. With the amount of copies posted and sold regularly, I might assume there is an appeal to the formula. Maybe people just want something different. The price is total HYPE though.

It even improves compatibility with og XBox games.

I wonder how many people who watch vids like yours are paying the hype prices. If they are, they aren't taking the message. Maybe it comes with age and seeing patterns repeat, in order for people to convince themselves. This will probably happen similarly on PS3 once Sony makes the official announcement for their store. They retracted a previous announcement and I remember similar discussions around that brief one week period.

@WhatsOnMyShelf I think we're seeing it a lot over here with people on RUclips collecting certain types of games I.e Platinum sets, red spines etc people follow and do the same and the prices bounce up, but it soon calms down. I think the same will happen with the 360, especially when people realise they are paying over the odds for some 360 games which are very average, just hyped! 😆

@@pixelpaul_pxp I find it weird--the whole attention 360 is getting. Maybe it's because retro is broadly a thing nowadays. The last official NES game in USA was produced in 1994. The NES market started to draw wider interest in 2012 in the USA. That an 18 year gap. The last 360 game was made in 2018, I believe. Six years really isn't a lot of time to grow a nostalgic audience, in comparison. Caveats are that the game industry and its audience have grown and inflation. Some games saw a $20-40 boost during this hype cycle. Back in the 90s, $20 meant something. Maybe a $50-60 game is looked as a expendable. I don't know. I'm pretty tight with money and always try to swing a bargain. It's rare that I just buy something at the suggested price without some "scheme" to recoup the cost by selling other items in bought a lot or similar situation.

@WhatsOnMyShelf we're very similar then mate, I very rarely spend big prices for older games, as cheap as I can find and if it's not cheap enough, I just don't get and will wait! But 360, I think there's a current gen knock on, in that people just aren't getting enough new games and looking to older gens to get more gaming, and xbox/ps3 was fairly affordable for that. There's the shifting demographics of who has the nostalgia for that gen too and has that disposable income too I guess.

@@pixelpaul_pxp Yeah, I keep hearing that there are no games. I don't have a PS5, but I see trailers for games from time to time that make it on my wantlist. I'm not a hardcore buyer. I've waited forever to buy games and suffered regret about retro. I can think of some games that were $25 and suddenly they are priced rock solid $100+ now. I always believe that I will get a better deal. It's worked out OK for most games though. I don't think that will be a problem for the PS3 / 360 / Wii generation for some time. My guess is that many haven't exploded into a billion bits.

Yeah, there are definitely spikes caused by people here on YT. It's natural to discuss things that interest us. Back in the school days, I remember discussing Shenmue a lot and a bunch of us got it when it was released. That circle of influence is small. The reach with YT is vast and with enough subs to help the algorithm draw people to your vid, the affect has been recorded multiple times. I don't know if any of the people on YT intentionally draw interest in a game with the specific purpose of raising the price, but mentioning something like, 'I wonder why this middle of the road game has so few copies on ebay is so cheap, considering the atmosphere of retro.' I always had plans of doing a series of videos like that--not 'hidden gems', but rather weirdly how this game has so few copies and is cheap. I can see how producing some video like that could be a double-edge sword. I would caveat that I can't vouch for quality, but that doesn't seem to matter with collectors. It's pretty much hype that keeps Little Samson at $2k-$3k. It's a great game, but man, do I really want to spend that? That's more than my rent!

@@WhatsOnMyShelf I know people have accused MJR of hyping up prices on a game to increase the value of his collection. However i dont know if thats true or just totally down to 'circle of influence' as you quite rightly said.

@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 The value of the collection is only there, if it is sold. It's also a lot of work to sell an entire library of games. Claims like this are specious. MJR has a lot of viewers. The more fans there are, the more there are anti-fans. I recall this was a thing brought to my attention when I used to listen to Howard Stern (I'm not a fan or anti-fan now). People called into the show to specifically say they don't like anything he says and get fired up about it.

@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 Another thing to think about with MJR and other big people in the gamer community is that making YT vids is their job. They release videos that are trendy to have content to keep viewers. I have doubted the authenticity of topics covered by these channels because they pump out vids, in order to get paid. Less videos = less money (and also less relevancy to viewers). Maybe there are people that make money on here and cover topics they truly care about, and maybe they can even do it in a more laid back fashion.

Yeah Fatal Inertia is a pretty good indicator of that. That game isnt even remotely rare, but every youtuber kept hyping it up for a year. Now its expensive. Before that happened. I could find a copy on marketplace etc. near every day for like 1-5$.

For real? I thought they discounted them into oblivion. It makes you wonder what they have in storage.

I was just in game stop yesterday it's a small selection but it's there​@@WhatsOnMyShelf

I haven't heard that one yet. Are you digging into the original XBox library as well?

@@WhatsOnMyShelf yes. It sparked me collecting physical overall for everything. Im returning to physical copy movies when possible. OG Xbox games and PlayStation

@@SpookbotTV There are a lot of exclusives on the XB and I can't think of ports that look or play worse on og XB. I think the only downside is the optical drive. I know they can be replaced, but I'm not sure they can be replaced with something better than the stock DVD drive.

Yeah at this point having a retail console and an RGH console is where it's at. With RGH 3.0 you don't anything beyond a couple of wires and a resistor. Some models require a diode like the falcons and later model Corona boards require a post fix adapter but with the right tools it's a easy to moderate difficulty solder job but if you're a newbie to soldering I wouldn't recommend it as your first rodeo with an iron.

It's a multitude of factors. The intense focus on 360 supply right now doesn't help. Those people focusing on 360 now might have originally been focused on getting the latest Switch or PS5 game. PS4 and XBONE have really cheap games now. You can find a lot for $10 or less.

Europeans are more wise and circumspect then. In regards to middling games, maybe the kind retrospect has something to do with having a library full of games and not willing to get rid of those that are OK. I've read reviews in retro mags where they trash a game or give up on it. Later, retro fans will say it's 'not bad'. There was a phrase in the US we used bitd - a weekend rental. The game earned that nickname because we could rent the game from a store, beat it during a short time, and be glad we played something new. There were better games on the horizon. Most weekend rentals could have used more time in the oven. My library has tons of mid-tier games :) I try not to pay a lot for any of my games.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf My main problem is the youtubers hyping up games that arent rare and makign the prices high for no reason.

People don't realize they have control.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf Only because we give it to them by clicking. It is difficult but we have to try and refrain when the description starts with "you need to, now" to click on that video.

@@CaptSpeirsB744 That's what I'm saying, man. People have control whether they click, whether they buy, etc. Imagine if everyone didn't buy any 360 games for over a year. Sellers would deem them as a loss. There was a time when og XBox was like that. Sellers couldn't make any money on the majority of titles so they didn't sell them.

I appreciate the comment. This Collectors, note series has evolved over the years. It's style changes on a per video basis. The people paying these prices do not know what a spike is. My hope is that my video draws attention to the pattern and possibly reduces this type of run on the market in the future (high hopes for reach :) After releasing the vid, I realized I should have been more explicit about the unnatural focus on the 360 supply, it might help people realize that focus is normally spread throughout the game market and the acute period here should resolve itself shortly. If you enjoy WET, you probably would enjoy Stranglehold, if you haven't tried that already. It's another dumb fun shooter where you interact with a lot of the environment in gunfights. I don't pay too much attention to the European market since I live in the USA. With my limited knowledge, I thought it been the more affordable market though, yes, there are definitely outliers, especially those which the international community show interest like Banana Prince for the NES, mainly exclusives or those which made the jump from Japan to Europe but not to USA.

Strangehold was 1 of my last pick ups for 5,-Never played the game but looking forward to it.I also found Dead to rights retribution...probably in the same category. The PAL video game market is a bit annoying because every EU country (and there are many) release their own language version. From the X360/PS3 onwards, almost all games are playable in English by default and it is just the text on the box which can be in another language with the relevant language as an option in the menu.

Haha I'm glad youtube isn't smart enough to capture the multiple space hack. I've had comments where I wasn't even writing a "naughty" word, but YT warned me that I did when two words beside eachother in a sentence made a "you can't say this on television" word.

It's funny how most of us sold our old gaming systems them rebought. The thing is these days we don't need to hold onto Xbox One because Series X is Xbox One on steroids. I think ps5 VR will be the next thing that goes up in price because they didn't make many units and physical games too because the demand is low now.

@@brandonlee7382 Vita cases are even more tiny than Switch, if space were an issue and you had to play only one system forever. I've always been the buy what you like gamer. The library comes naturally from that process. RUclipsrs placing spotlight on certain games has a measurable effect, depending on the viewership. There are some channels I have recorded a direct correlation of video to price surge of game. Most of these channels are not the small time AVGN or Metal Jesus types, though they have sway too and it has been noted in the past. I don't believe those people do it out of some malintent. They have an interest and mention it. The audience responds naturally by getting the game to enjoy or hate. Some people buy things just because it's a quirk / oddity / meme. The PC market has a scene where gamers build decked out machines and cram them into beige boxes of 90s PC makers.

They call it a spike for a reason. What is happening is due to the increased focus on the 360's supply of physical games. People don't know how long it takes to get a certain game at a certain price. For example, how often does a complete Culdcept Saga pop up? When people find that there are cheaper sellers trying to undersell and the the market is rife with copies, the average price will drop to some new high point. What it actually settles around is anyone's bet; however, I will say that games do tend to go up once they find a new high. Considering past generations, the $200 threshold is still relatively low for standard edition games.

I'm not sure which nearly-$200 games are worthwhile for 360. Maybe there will be a Little Samson on 360 eventually; however, I believe at some point the games turn into assets, which is a shame considering the original intent. I'd be curious about the game with the least prints on 360 and whether it sells for a higher price than something like a Culdcept or Operation Darkness. Still, considering where previous generations have gone with the pricing of some of their games, despite a predictable drop in the price of 360 games, the games will probably climb again to some new height. It's like that anecdote I gave about the pricing of Little Samson. It's the same game experience at $400, $1000, and $3000.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf yeah for the 360 it's a bit of a different breed since it's the most recent store closure and the fomo is making everyone hoard theres probably various games that are rares sitting in the bottom of a gas station clearance bin, and there's most likely a bit of market manipulation for some games and the only games id even consider worthwhile is the marvel games that are in limited supply because the gameplay and license is worth it to marvel and game collectors. I've got 300+ (about 30 sports titles that I'll never touch) physical copies now, and have slowly made my way through a few games and I do have to say the gameplay from games in the early 2010's is so much better than a lot of the games now with the same cookie cutter layout. Either way this is the collection that will make me rich with experience and achievements score. Probobly a small fortune in 20 years too

​@@tonyhell234 I probably should have brought it up on the video, but this is a pattern when store closures are announced as that would have supported my argument. But, yes people don't realize that these announcements put more focus on the 360 physical supply. They get a fear that the games will never be attainable at the current price though they don't see this spike pattern. The cash supply runs out. Cvid was the exception because the gov gave people "free" money multiple and those people inflated the cost of collectibles. Regarding availability, I also believe there are boxes of unopened games sitting in a warehouse from what I've seen anecdotally. VGchartz puts Culdcept Saga at 120K games sold in the US. Is there a normal print run, or do publishers gauge interest ahead of time and print numbers in accordance to their estimate? Maybe it's different per publisher. That would really give people a sense; however, they can also simply watch how often the expensive games show up on the biggest auction platform.

There have been complete set collectors in nerd markets for a while. I don't think it's exclusive to the nerd culture though. Regarding PC, I question how much cross-over there is between the platforms. I recall hearing a lot of gamers shift towards PC during the PS4 XBone era since those platforms had similarities with PCs like the game must be installed before playing and hardware generations were getting half-steps instead of simply the cut-down models like slims of the past. Personally, I buy games if I come across them cheap and they look decent or I've heard decent things about them. It's really easy to build a massive library for consoles that are on the way out. Even the big guys, Game Stop will fire sale games for less than $5 near the end.

Market manipulation involves more than just buying obscure titles and hyping them. It's the overall phenomenon around store closures. Digital buyers are the only people who should care about digital closure. The same people who wanted to get a physical copy of the game might eventually get it; however, all the attention from videos creates a false depiction of reality that the games are going to disappear fast. The 360 and PS3 have been seeing some strange prices surges overall in my opinion over the last four years. These are young systems which still have a lot of viable supply.

Hey, there are people who enjoy Neptunia games, though I question their motives.

Fatal Inertia, paid like $15 sold for $160 game was crap and happy to unload it

@@meanmachine5598 Did anyone see the price of Dynasty Warriors Fist of the North Star 2? When would you see that with a dynasty warriors game? Fist is still a relatively obscure series in the West too.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf I have Fist of the North Star 1 & 2 on 360 bought them from Ebgames back when they were clearing out 360 games years ago. I know that 2nd one was pretty rare even back then when I picked it up for $15 but I don't think I could ever sell it, I love those games. I also wouldn't look at it as a dynasty warriors game, it has similarities for sure but the combat with the combos and cool effects makes it feel more like a beat em up for me anyways. I get tired of the dynasty warrior games pretty quick, there is no depth in their combat.

@@meanmachine5598 I understand. I'm the same way with the Gundam Dynasty games, but I do recognize their repetitive nature. I've always felt the Dynasty games are pretty bland. They do a lot of good fan service though. In the original Dynasty Warriors series, they cater to fans of the back and forth struggle over land in China.

The 360 was the lead platform so it received the majority of titles, and those titles were ported to its generational brethren. With age, gamers become jaded since most of the experiences are the same with better graphics or sound or just bigger worlds or add a little more complexity like you can have damage to your armor or even build you own. Sometimes there are truly unique ideas and unique ways to play such as my favorite example from the PS3 / 360 era, Mirror's Edge. I'd say the most interesting things should be done in VR. The format is still fresh. I understand that experiences requires adapting to this format and it still feels more complicated to use than picking up a controller and pressing power.

Right on!

Facts!

I'm only buying 360 Video games I might play somtimes

@@hollllllllz You can't play all the games all the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm sure you were a contributor. We all are.

He bought 15 copies of Fatal Inertia to sell lol

@@meanmachine5598 Nah...it was Zumba Fitness. HODL to the moon! 😂

@@TheRedmondGamer I saw a video of a seller who put a chunk of change into BCFX well before civd. I assume there's no video which drove gamers to this obscure sports ball game during this recent 360 heat. It's not necessarily that it's sports ball and nobody want those games as there are some titles which get hyped up because of their obscurity such as N7 Tecmo Basketball. I think what makes rare titles worth something is that they are actually rare. It would have been difficult to source a lot of Stadium Events and have the forethought that it would reach such heights.

Lol don't pay more than $29

The games aren't going anywhere. They existed before the store closes and will exist afterwards. Those people who wanted physical could have bought them before. The people who buy digital care about digital stores. It's like a neighbor who has a dog. Should you have a dog too? If you don't care about dogs, then you don't want a dog. I believe there are two things driving the current run on games - hype and targeting of specific games by sellers. It's now a meme that closing digital stores, limited editions, etc. create FOMO. Those who didn't care about physical are influenced into thinking they should. The people who only care about digital and are affected by the closing store have options to get their digital game downloaded on their box (official and unofficial). Why else would someone who cared about digital dip into the available physical copies? I think most of the people who want physical games are focused on the 360 supply now and have no gauge in determining availability. How often does Knight's Contract get posted on ebay? If someone misses a copy at auction, will another turn up tomorrow, a week, 3 months, a year, etc.. Maybe it's really easy to walk into game stores , flea markets, and other aftermarket retail around where someone lives. Maybe those games turn up more often at those outlets than ebay or other online stores. I think the only thing that is gone from time is those digital only experiences like playing the game of the moment online. There are projects which revive or rebuild game hosting servers for certain games, but they never will be at their peak again. People have nostalgia for physical and digital spaces.

@@WhatsOnMyShelf Really though you have to look ok at older consoles to realize that availability and price will be changing going forward. Loojk at consoles like the PS2 original Xbox and GameCube. These have alot of titles that don't come up often unless you are searching specifically for it and when you find them alot of those command fairly high prices. It's not long before 360 and PS3 games are exactly the same story. Despite whatever is pushing the prices up now is the right time to be getting them for the simple fact that if you want these games it's only going to get harder to find them and costlier to pick them up. In alot of ways I think that there is some justified hype going on because we all understand and recognise the pattern of where it is and where it's going to go. There will never be a time when there is a game that someone wants and can't get it but that doesn't mean it's going to get easier, it will only be harder and more expensive. Yes it will plateau but not yet and we have not seen the final point of where that's going to be. Simple supply and demand and right now the demand is high and I don't see much sign of that easing up. I think most people buy a mix of online and physical and I don't think one affects the other much one way or another. Rereleased games are one thing that has the biggest impact.

@@Kenno10rapid Right, as demand decreases, so too will prices. Atari saw it happen. The consoles of the pre-2000 era have already seen plateauing. Talking with a lot of gamers my age and as I see on YT, some get frustrated with the hobby because they refuse to pay $2K for Little Samson, for instance. Another thing is time. The hobby of finding, saving to buy, and just playing is seen as less important. As the number of those people leave the hobby, the prices drop as sellers want a return. There is FOMO for sellers as well where they like to sell before prices drop even in the short term. I've seen some sales of collections on ebay where people will sell at half the going rate which is a telltale sign of someone leaving or finding another way to play. In regards to the remasters, I question whether they have lasting impact on the current generations interested in retro. People said that for Wii's VC releases. They had an initial negative impact on prices, but eventually the prices regained strength. Lots of games on PS1 store had this too. Look at where the PS1 is going now. Again, I do think this has it's limits. I don't think anyone can be certain what happens to the broad interest in retro five decades from now when there have been multiple generations of non-physical kids. My guess is based on the comic market. There are kids interested in 60s Spidey comics, but rarely do they go after the physical issue. The comic market is pretty much an asset market where slabbed comics matter. That may happen with games where only slabbed copies matter (new, used) and people only play digitally.

@@Kenno10rapid i kinda disagree, i dont think ps2 games will get much more expensive than they are now... unless the yters post about them for 5 months straight.

Agree, though there's a 3rd trigger which coincided with those mentioned; and that is games being suddenly delisted. Spec Ops the Line is a famous example but more recently The Crew. This has only fed the fire of grabbing physical.

Dark is the perfect example of a game targeted for profit. I don't know if the game was talked about in hype videos since I didn't engage with those. What I notice is that I stumbled across the game in February for as cheap as $2 on ebay. I noted it because there were less than ten copies posted on the US ebay store, where you restrict results to those only listed by US sellers. I've been into the retro scene for some time now, and this is a pattern. I intend to make a series about it, but I don't know when that will happen. I wanted to make this vid about 2-3 months ago.

That game is so crap

I agree that people here raise awareness of certain games. Depending on how tuned in you are, you might not realize there's something you would enjoy unless you stumble across it in a RUclips video. My awareness of everyday releases started to wane during the PS3 / 360 years and there's no keeping track of everything being released today. The libraries for modern systems, PS4 onwards is so vast. I'm on the same page about game libraries. Just get what you think looks interesting. The library will grow. I do understand where the fullset people are coming from, though it must be exhausting, especially if you're not going after a tiny set like the 32X.

Exactly my thoughts I just buy games that looks interesting to me and I could see myself playing those. FOMO is Bs

Thanks