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Honestly, calling a kpop song "noise music" is a compliment to me. It means that it does something interesting enough to make certain listeners uncomfortable and expand their experience with music. To this day, my favorite noisy kpop song (and song in general) is skinz by OnlyOneOf, and one of the reasons why I love it is that the discomforting sounds used in the song (all the synths, the irregularity of them, the nails on concrete near the beginning) drive the actual message of the song - being human is uncomfortable, but you can find thrilling things within the discomfort. That's how the best noisy songs feel to me - a little uncomfortable, but incredibly thrilling to listen to.

Stray Kids and ATEEZ are the only bg i stan 💪🏻💥

Unfortunately, I've noticed the complete opposite reception. Not saying everyone should like all their music (meaning SKZ and ATZ), but if you like Maestro (Seventeen) or Dionysus (BTS) you cannot convince me you don't like Side effects (SKZ) , Simon Says (NCT) and Cyberpunk (ATZ). Because this means that you're not into the music rather you're into the group that makes the music and that's what I've seen in the Kpop sphere. Fans rave over more popular groups that make noise music and say it's a work of art, but when experimental groups that have been making this type of music for so long, people say the generic "I don't like noise music" from these groups. Granted BTS and Seventeen, don't always make noise music, it's just interesting to see the reception when SKZ does it - it's viewed as noise music, but Seventeen does it - that's the best thing people have ever seen. Of course, music is about personal taste, however in Kpop the whole group mentality distaste towards SKZ, NCT and/or ATZ puts a damper on the affects that they've made with their discography, especially for ATZ and SKZ where they are heavily involved in the music production of their discography. If Kpop fans truly cared about music, then the group mentality towards "noise music" shouldn't have this much of an effect, but it does - which undermines these groups capabilities in music production.

i always thought 별 (star) was used like an asterick, which can sometimes be seen as a star (별별별 = ***) as like a stand-in to something else they want to say or to make the song open for interpretation to the listener. knowing that it can also relate to another meaning in the korean dictionary is so cool!

IT WAS YOU!

i actually interpret "I make you feel like lie" as "i make you feel like you are something that is a lie, something untrue" which imo fits better with the line before "i make you feel so high" since the wife makes the husband feel so high and mighty, but that highness is hollow, it's a lie.

i needed to hear choujimi saying im wifeing today

4:07 My edit would be: Wife: I make you feel so high, and I make you feel the lie, but I don’t wanna wife.

Is cosmic red? I’ve always seen it as a super velvet song

I’m fully convinced that if I show kpop stans a rock metal song for the first time, they’ll perish. I love skz, they’re the only group I stan and the ones that introduced me to kpop a year ago, they’re aren’t noisy, they’re incredibly creative and versatile with their sound and I’m glad I didn’t know kpop stans stvpid perspective of them until after I became a stay, I don’t wanna sound egotistic but I usually don’t enjoy a lot of songs that go “viral” or are the best thing ever according to the kpop community, my taste is really different from most of them and like me a lot of stays weren’t kpop fans before skz

"i make you feel like lie" - i interpreted this as a sort of translation of the korean phrase "geojitmal-cheoreom" which in a literal sense means "like a lie" but is usually used to mean unbelievable, like a miracle, like magic etc.

I remember ONCEs worrying about TWICE's contract renewal. When Between 1&2 was released people did comment the album felt like it was originally supposed to be like a disbandment album, because it felt like a re-cap of TWICE's career as a group. I've not really been keeping up TWICE too much, so I didn't really know Talk That Talk was misunderstood. I thought it didn't get as much attention because of all the comebacks. New Jeans and IVE were newer groups, so people were probably interested in seeing what type of music they had to offer. BlackPink FINALLY having a comeback, and Girls Generation's 15th anniversary comeback were a BIG thing which I think overshadowed TWICE's comeback.

Whatever noise music is, I love it- I need it- give me 20 more

Skz being known as a noisy group, has one of the BEST ballads. Their soft songs are beautiful. I love them so much. Secret secret, cover me, leave, twilight, untitled, ex, sorry i love you and sooo many more gorgeous songs.

When you are a non native English speaker kpop is crazy because you check the songs translations in English but then there's campy lyrics 😂

AND WHAT ABOUT ITTT 🗣️🗣️🔊

Oh no people you know absolutely nothing about speaking english is such a problem!! We gotta jail Badvillain for saying english phrases!! Please god help us

Thanks for the free playlist lol

0:57 it can actually be used in "You will found the only company" as the past tense of that is founded

I hated this show. They tortured those poor girls. I cried when Lexi left. The final girls didn't even make sense Emily, Adelai, and Lexi worked their butts off. As soon as it went public and turned into a survival show it felt demonic.

I did watch a (G)-IDLE song recording video and saw that sometimes Soyeon writes grammatically correct sentences then after they get recorded, she tells the member to remove a syllable or two from them so that it would fit the beat better which usually ends up making the sentence not grammatically correct anymore

My favorite genre of kpop's bad lingustics are the verses that try to convey vulgar sexual message without sounding explicitly sexual but along the way they become so linguistically deconstructed to the point they become abstract, ridiculous, cringe or even completely lose their original meaning and gain the new one.

1:48 What if instead of "you will gotta be the only one", it was meant to be "you will, gotta be, the only one?"

Honestly I vibe with the “bad” English in wife because of the stereotype of Asian women that those 90 day fiancé type guys would want because I think it fits the message of the song well For bad English in general I’m probably just more lenient but sometimes even in western pop you’re gonna make a wack lyric choice just cus it flows better idk

wanna take a quick moment to recommend a.c.e to anybody who enjoys hard-hitting pots n pans music!!!! if someone here knows abt the pinata discourse on twt, we all know how banging their discography is if listened to properly & at full duration ;))

they definitely are k pop the way the music videos look even the sound and styles

Do loossemble TTYL ‘you baddie rizz me tonight’ 😭

"Kpop can't teach you english!" Choujimi : think again

Okay but break down "want me your wife but she is"

Small correction for "gotta" - it's true that "got" is past tense of "get" (I got a present), but "got" is treated as present tense in sentences implying obligation (I've got to get a present). Probably a modal usage of got? But your point about "will gotta" being grammatically invalid still stands. I also really like "I don't wanna wife" since it implies being a wife is something you're constantly "doing". I like to think there's a difference between "being a wife" (noun) and "wifing" (verb) - the latter feels more direct and active? - but I could be overthinking and overanalysing it lol Grammar doesn't always equal meaning - "colourless green ideas sleep furiously" is grammatically valid but its meaning is nonsensical. But grammar makes meaning easier to access (in my opinion) - we'll probably understand the sentence "the fox ate the apple" more easily than "apple fox the ate". The BADVILLAIN example reminded me of this - even if it's valid grammatically, real-world English speakers don't say sentences like this often and I think that's why it feels off. Using "mob" as a verb is unusual but "hanging out" is more common. Really interesting video to watch as a linguistics student. I find the "broken grammar" adds an interesting stylistic flair to Kpop songs, for better or worse. I'm too used to "Red five diamonds in my bag" that "Five red diamonds in my bag" sounds really boring lmao

I love your takes so much especially the nuance you brought up for the third example

On today’s episode of Choujimi out of context: “I wifed a little too hard,” and “I’m wifeing today.”

how did bro KNOWWW

0:10 ah yes, nct 127

I see the "I don't wanna wife" line as a pun to "I don't wanna wipe", considering the way they pronounce the letter F. And I really love the way they sing this line like this.

Wolfgang existing at the corner 😂 for me, thats the noisiest skz i heard. So much layered sounds from raw to polished, distorted and familiar, grunge and serene vocals. Anyway, it's the most overstimulating. So hearing chkchkboom being labeled noise is hilarious because it is so coherent and chill 😂

sorry for being the 128th like on this video 😔😔😔😔😔 *sticker record scratches in background*

pleaseeee ! Give your thoughts on Irene's album its so cohesive and pretty. I love your videosddd

Songs like wife and nude make a criticism of Korean society so I understand the use of " Korean" English so the people concerned have an easier time understanding. However I have a hard time understanding her lyrics since she doesn't precise the correlation between her words. She often uses nouns and verbs but without pronouns or connectors. Example: I like the first snow of winter. Becomes in her style: like first snow winter. It's not a problem if she uses it once but she ALWAYS uses it. And in songs like tomboy, there is no criticism being made so I feel frustrated whenever I try to understand what she is talking about.

stop intellectualizing bad english

i know what can change for the badvillain one and i changed it to "Vibin With The Bad Girls, You're Not In The Gang" there did it for you

Birthday and Scientist were never bad songs to begin with at least from my listening preferences 😅

It’s the same in any language. Languages are often translated and said wrong these lyrics are a lack of native English speakers. Translating some of these lyrics in Korean make sense but translated to English it makes none

My prediction ever since Universe Ticket was still airing is that Gehlee is gonna be the new Wonyoung in some years

Is it "mellow drama" or "melodrama?" That DOES change the meaning! Always love these episodes.

You will gotta be the only one I love this mellow drama fits the melody of the bridge, due to its number of syllables. Reducing even one syllable would make it a bit awkward that's why he didn't say you will be.

"Wife, I make you feel so high, I make you feel the lie, but i won't be your wife" Sounds good in my head when i sing it lol.

The reason I love Kpop is cause it does not need to be too serious or personal. You can just listen to really good sounding songs with beautiful voices and cool vibes. That's what makes unique Kpop to me in first place.

No. The word wife is a noun, not a verb.

I hate Bad English