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You are confirming what we’ve heard about this model! The more people we talk to regarding the HE, the more we hear that spinetek is their preferred construction. You nailed it on the head in that the PU is simply too heavy and causes the board to feel too big or sluggish. Spine-Tek - this is the way. Thanks for the share!

Thanks @luizs.f5305 we’ll give it to try! 🙌🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

Brahhhh, I wish I had discovered this tip a year ago hahaha. I already sold my board but the good news is that Andrew has his. Could be a game changer for me. Unfortunately, I don’t think Dan will be trying it anytime soon 😂

Yo Ronny! We have yet to sample any Pyzel nectar. Your comment sent me down a worm hole on Facebook marketplace. The red tiger and white tiger both seem like boards that would be up our alley so know it’s been added to our list. Bad news is that we are on dad time which equals 🐢. Have you surfed any Pyzel boards yet?

@@greenroomsurfreviews All good lads, Can confirm also on dad time. But looking to see some reviews before i treat myself to a bday gift. The red tiger and chili churro 2 look good.

Let us know how the session(s) go!!

hey charleshawk6668!! we’ve found what benefits beginners most, is time in the water and repetition. Even though the G-Skate was designed for the average+ surfer, if it gets you in the ocean more, then the short answer is yes! That being said, we think you can get more value and skill progression (faster) with other board choices out there. A Costco Foamie or MF Softboard will increase your wave count and you will get use out of them year after year (PU boards yellow and break down faster). If only we had taken our own advice, maybe we’d be average+ surf dads instead of just average surf dads 😭👴🏻 Let us know if you have more questions! 🙌🏼

Yeah great point jamesk9087. we’ve found it’s less about a board being good or bad, and more about the type of surfer/surfing that can have the most fun on it 🙌🏼

Awesome board for the family or if waves at the local stay micro 🙌🏼

‼️ wowzers. Yeah unfortunately we had a similar experience with the 3+. The review is coming soon…but spoiler alert, it’s close to yours!

Hey @kstrophs85!! Good on yah for picking a sport that will spend all your money for the rest of your life! 😭 🙌🏼 A few things we learned about the DD2 - opt for Spine-Tek/XTR, size down an inch in length from your normal groveler, and get it in steeper/better waves. (hard to recommend exact dims without knowing weight). And we know recommendation #3 might also be tough given your local. The DD2 is all the rage right now and can definitely work, but there might be better options out there. If you’re sticking in the CI family, check out the G-Skate, Rocket Wide, and POD Mod. We bet you can pick one up second hand (or all three) to find what you like/don’t like. Beginner shortboarding is all about repetition. Sounds like you’re prioritizing the right things (HV grovelers and Mid-lengths), keep that same logic as you transition shorter! But keep in mind we’re just some average surf dads on the interwebs 😂🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

Yep!

Yeah we’re hearing the magic combo is good waves, spine-tek, minimally raked fins, and an inch or so smaller than normal groveler dims. Or just surf like Dane! 🙌🏼 We definitely had fun on it (Brother #2 for sure) but might not be our daily driver 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

@Tiaguini78 so rad to hear you’ve already had it in the Maldives 🤤 yeah we’re hearing the Spine-Tek XTR combo might be the magic sauce we need! 🪄 Sounds like you and Brother #2 are part of the same FFF club (front foot forward) and might be the type of surfer this board is best for. Thanks for watching some average surf dads struggle in CA slop, we appreciate the support! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

@@greenroomsurfreviews Definitely a front foot guy. You guys have been in Waco for a week, I have been to Maldives, I guess it’s a tie. Hope you guys have some good waves for the rest of the summer. Greetings from Portugal!

@damienphelan666 rad to hear, thanks man!! Let us know if you find the magic combo. In the meantime, if you know of a loving home with better than average surf, let us know. We might be looking to re-home so this guy can get the attention he deserves🙌🏼 we have a few other boards to test out, don’t want his best years to be wasted in a garage! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

@@greenroomsurfreviews I'd love to but I think freight to the land of Oz would cost more than the board 😁

Nice @spiffjiff05! Yeah we’ve had the Fishbeard and Rocket Wide in Spine-Tek and loved them both! You’re not the only person who was recommended the Spine-Tek/xtr combo for the DD2 🙏🏼 we’ll add it to the list! 🙌🏼

Probably a HPSB for a average joe

Yeah it’s definitely closer to a HPSB than the original was 🙌🏼

I used buckwheat (gluten free 😉) so I’m sure that would work too

Chris! Hahaha-you bring up great points. We are located in the U S of A so that’s where the freedom units come in. I gather the wetsuit industry uses metric units simply because the thicknesses are so small. Instead of saying .12 inches thick, they say 3 millimeters. Anywho, just figure out how cold your water is and then match that to any wetsuit water temperature chart and it’s hard to go wrong. Check out Buell Surf if you’re looking for a more affordable price and bonus if you wait for their July 4 wetsuit sale! Best of luck 🤞🏼!!

It’s on the list! Dan’s inferno 72 has made me reconsider my life choices. Sharp eye is on our radar for sure!

I haven’t dabbled with any Pyzel surfboards yet but I’d be seriously interested to try them out. I have two of the models that I’ve been 👀

Speaking for brother number 2, I think the rocket wide would be so fun! Even more amazing if I could take one in spine tek. I think a 2+1 set up there would be insane. You get the hold but easy release when you want to blow the tail out. Also, the RW is shorter and curvier so it can be surfed in the pocket in tighter arcs. Lastly it’s specifically designed for smaller waves and with the spine tek “pop” and extra buoyancy, think it would be a perfect fit. The flat earth would be my backup board if the RW broke.

Hey Goodtimes! From my recollection, they did have similar rail thicknesses. Even their volumes were close to identical. I found that they performed very differently which I’m sure is attributed to the winged pin tail amongst other factors. Both were fun but the flat earth was more versatile and could be surfed more freely in the smaller stuff. Hope that helps and nice to know the videos are appreciated by other people besides our mother. ;-)

@@greenroomsurfreviews Haha, thanks from your prompt reply! Greece salutes you 🙏!

🇬🇷 + 🇺🇸 🙌🏼

Thanks @drenyama5090 🙌🏼 it’s nice to know we have a fan out there! We have 4 different reviews brewing right now - the last piece is getting all the footage! Hang tight!

Great question - it totally can. It acts as a digital key in all aspects. The Tesla App does allow this to happen now, however, we think the integration and performance of WatchLA is still better 🙌🏼

Hey Juice, surfed it 4-6, occasional 7 in Ventura at c-street and it was great! Used the 2+1 fin setup and it felt controlled and held well on carves and bottom turns. It’s my go to board still. 🤙🏼

Yewww! 🙌🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

Nice!!! Brother 1 ordered a medium and is 5’11 160, so you should be good. We love the suit for the shoulder seasons and cool (not cold) water!! Let us know how you like it!! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

Hey Nathan! I haven’t tried the FT so I can’t speak to that. @Thomyesurfs has a great video of his initial thoughts on the FT. Spoiler alert, he loved it! Based off of the sharpeye website, the 72 appears to have more grovel ability than the FT. All that said, 72 is one of my top 3 fav board of all time!

@@greenroomsurfreviews sweet thanks! Ya it’s gonna be a tough decision. I did see his video which has me stoked on the FT, then hearing you guys talk about the 72 has me stoked on that one again, and the cycle continues haha. I have a Fishbeard to cover the low end of waves, and would want my new board to hold in up to a few feet overhead with the right fins. So it’d be a Fishbeard/Inferno two board quiver. Would be looking to do in XTR10 construction probably. I’m curious, what are your other top three boards?

That’s always the struggle!! Which boards do you keep?? Honestly, your setup sounds pretty solid - it just always depends on the waves at your local. The brothers did a poll, here are the results: Brother 3: Inferno 72, Sampler, Neckbeard/Dumpster Diver 1 Brother 2: Rocket Wide, Flat Earth, Weirdo Ripper Brother 1: G-Skate, Fishbeard, Rocket Wide For context, we are rarely in surf over chest high - that definitely shows in the selections 😂🫠🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

@@greenroomsurfreviews solid choices! I currently live in Oregon, so when waves are bigger the weather is usually bad haha. Reliably I only get “good” surf up to around head high or so, and good is sometimes being generous haha. We have our lucky days that go off, but with weather and 8 foot tide swings, everything has to line up perfectly

Oregon!? That’s rad! We can imagine the elements really have an impact. Makes sense why you want a groveler and another board that can handle the conditions 🤔 let us know what you end up selecting! 🙌🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

Added to my board vocabulary. 🤙🏼

Yewwww yeah very similar experience to us! A separate tag charger would be a game changer 🙌🏼

Brother #1 here - I love it too! It’s my go-to for anything under shoulder high 🤩 initially I wasn’t a fan of the design, but whatever helps me have more fun in the water 😂👴🏻

You’ll have an awesome time!!

Heyo! I have spent considerable time riding the pod mod and only held the mashup under my arm once. Albeit a brief encounter, they felt very similar. The boards are very closely related both in design, use case, and ideal conditions. I wonder if my brothers’ prejudices are as strong for this board as the pod mod?! Needless to say, I would love to try it out!

Better bring your A game

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