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None of this would have been possible had my much younger - read tech-savvy friend had not got a bee in his bonnet about this and re-engineered this thing from the ground up. It has been the biggest on going headache on this and previous layouts. Once working it is great and adds so much to the operations of the layout.

I have a Trix Britannia with the big flanges and it struggles on an of my track. I should have put down some suitable track somewhere but right now there is not room.

I got my first R. 850 in 1968 as a Christmas present and it was always an appalling runner. The one you saw which does indeed have a glowing fire box has been a pleasant surprise. I am in the market for one more but in very good condition. You will have noticed that the one running is a bit battered and worn. I am not a huge fan of this Triang Hornby era but I have always loved this example and preferred it in BR livery. I'll be sure to get some footage of the new A4 running. So far all new Hornby models have taken to the track and the H&M equipment quite happily.

Certainly all mine which are early versions do not run very quickly. This seems to be a function of the gearing and may have been to mirror reality or just a happy accident. I need to get my hands on a ring field motored version before I pass final judgement. For a bit of fun I occasionally have them haul passenger trains. The other thing I notice is their dislike of standard radius curves.

Yes you can't turn your back on them. It's really just age and wear. Hardly used Wrenn engines with the same mechanism are just fine.

I think it is well overdue for both the green Duchesses. The matt one I bought at a model railway exhibition about 10 years ago and put it straight onto the tracks. The shiny one has been around for ever so it is high time for both to be overhauled and to be given new magnets.

I really do not know what it is because there is no real difference mechanically. Do I just tend to buy Montroses that have been thrashed. My Atholls are all in good shape. I suppose the only answer is to just keep buying and see what the results are. I am getting new magnets for the Atholls. Fingers crossed.

Thank you. I will get hold of some.

Thanks. I have a guy who does 3D printing for me but before I get to there I'm thinking of fitting a couple of Wrenn bodies once my worst examples expire. Who knows they may outlast me. I am tempted to fit the lower gears you mention to at least one of the units. Right now I'm inching towards an acceptable Class 13 on an old Tri-ang chassis and some bodies printed by my friend. I really like these busy little things.

Thanks. Not finished but then will it ever be?

All of the new stuff came from New Zealand and I think that the 4MT cost less than NZD100. Some more arriving in the next week or so. The 3 rail West County locos are getting pricey. My one has two 2 rail stable mates but a 2 rail body.

@@thedublorailway3803 Yes the 3 rail Dorchester West Countries are certainly getting up there. I think I may well look at a two rail and convert it. The two rail versions seem to go for substantially less.

I'm a big fan of metal. Nylon can warp and as for the wheels, yes they drag. Distorted metal couplings are so easily fixed.

I certainly feel like I need to buy (another) one.

You wont be able to stop at 1 😂 They are the most used locos on my layout. They just run wonderfully with a little tlc.

We've been having relatively cool summers for here but there was a hot spell near the end. The dry heat is great for cleaning and running. Humidity is a real killer for performance. I'll be on a Yarra tram tomorrow afternoon from Camberwell heading back into Melbourne

@@thedublorailway3803I remember Camberwell, Türe was an antiques or collectives Shop a few minutes walk from the station where I bought a beautiful boxed Export City of London for a very reasonable price and re exported it back to Europe 😂 Very fond memories of Melbourne and all my friends at Puffing Billy. If only we had won that train contract !

Thank you. This did occur to me and I did cast around for conductive paint but never thought of demister repair paint. I must also confess that once I hit on the Class 13 idea everything else was forgotten, however this will be the way in the future.

I got lucky with plungers and hit upon a package of used spares, enough to do a few locomotives. I have never considered a switch but it is an excellent idea.

I have the same problem with one of my Co-Bo's. I don't have a solution. I just decided to live with it. Brass, copper and aluminium all act as shields but there is not enough room inside the body to accommodate a reasonable shield in my experience.

Thanks Sean. My solution is to park the tinplate rolling stock on a more distant siding from the main lines!@@thedublorailway3803

I have learned a lot about 4MT's from other people since I published this video. I need to get my hands on an example of 80033 and have a really good look at it.

How interesting, something just got added to the shopping list.

Thanks, now of course I need to buy one to have a closer look. Any excuse will do.

Ps. Wrenn discarded the shunt feature. But the early versions kept the access hole. Later versions had them filled in. Also even though many of the Wrenn liveries arent exactly prototypical they add a nice variation to the fleet. I guess in this day and age, if you wanted a prototypically correct layout, you wouldnt run dublo or wrenn anyway. But they are wonderful things and a great deal of fun, which to me is the main thing.

Thanks for all the information. I've just picked up another 4MT, in good order this time. I use H&M controllers so they probably count as modern compared to the old Dublo boxes so I've never played with the screws in the back. It would be interesting to see one being used and adjusted with an original transformer.

@@thedublorailway3803 I use a morley controller on the main layout. In addition to a H & M. To be honest I think the H & M works a little better with these old girls. And it already has the option of slow speed operation by switching to half wave. I do have an original Dublo controller that has been tested by an electrician, but I wouldnt use one without it being checked. They arent a bad controller for their day. But the H & M is light years ahead.

Thanks for watching, getting ready to record part two.

Pleased you enjoyed it.

Thanks, I've never handled one. I should have looked at the schematics. I bought an SD green suburban the other day so it would be great to get an EMU to wrap around it. The layout is in Victoria and visitor are welcome.

Maybe at the next running session we ought to measure the decibels.

Thanks. The trains made enough noise without my help. Sometime silence is the best policy.

Entirely three rail, with the capacity to run two rail or three rail on one circuit. OO used to be pretty much all three rail. This system went out of production in the early 1960's but had its origins in the 1930's.

@@thedublorailway3803 Interesting, I guess they did the center power feed for the same reason Lionel did, made reversing loops easier ( now why Lionel used AC is another story). So I guess with this the middle and one of the outer rails was positive and the other outer rail was negative? Could the three rail run on 2 rail via a selector switch, or were they wired only for 3 rail? Just curious, MTH produced 3 rail O engines that could run on 2 rail O as well.

Great layout 3 rail is cracking!

Very pleased that you enjoyed it. The feedback has been very encouraging.

Thanks. The amusing thing is that by definition the operator is vintage as well.

The feedback on the 4MT has prompted me to make a video on it and its companions. There is one on BR green done by the same fellow who did the blue one. He also repainted a beaten up Duchess of Monstrose in blue. Unfortunately I've lost touch with him. The video should be out in the next month or so. I've often looked at Wrenn bodies and I imagine that is where I will go next when I have a spare chassis LMS crimson would be a natural choice given the origins of the design. I have a beaten up 4MT sitting on my workbench right now and I'm wondering about maker's grey.

Thanks. It is great fun making them.

They were done for me by a guy in Melbourne who has subsequently dropped from sight. They were both in very poor condition so no great loss if painted. I often buy with that in mind. The blue Class 20 I bought as is. There is a BR green 4MT floating around as well. I should make a video on them.

@@thedublorailway3803 I have an old City Class boiler that is very much well worn but a spectacular candidate for repainting. I plan on doing my own project on it in the future.

Glad you enjoyed it

To be equally direct. Why not?. Sick of seeing it all going in one direction.

Because it's old school, doesn't look realistic enough, and the buildings look derelict, but each to their own

We need to make a video on Class 20 locos.

I have three railed two HD two rail points. Not a great success and the subject of a video one day. Maybe I will again try with Peco or Hornby. I have some Wrenn three rail points but they are really rough objects even in unused condition.

Thanks. A couple of us have watched your video on the turntable and a few others. It's great to see some other three rail content.

Pleased you are enjoying it. It doesn't feel like hard work believe me.

This turntable was bought about then too and originally restored to working order by a fellow in Ashburton. Not a 1000 miles from Glen Waverley. I can't remember what I bought it for but it was expensive.

Yes. I hope it interests others. The ratio of work is about 40% repair and 60% 'Let's try something new". The big push has been to get the turntable back into working order. That will be the next video.

Thanks. Marklin pickups as you could see under the Lima 08 if my camera work were any good., but getting expensive now. I have some on order. The guy who did the 3D print of the 13 is looking into making some.

Many thanks. 7164 and 7185 are the Marklin Skates I use but they seem bigger that yours. Might you know the number. I did wonder if they were carriage skates. Thanks again. I live in Spain but my supplier is in Italy.

Pleased you enjoyed it.

Thanks, they are lovely. It's a great shade of green and they would have to be my favourite SD tinplate coaches.

Thanks. That is really interesting information. The running is like night and day compared to other SD coaches. I'll check out Dublo 2000. The next restaurant car to purchase is the LMR one. Fairly expensive but it completes my collection.

@@thedublorailway3803 the SD restaurant cars are beautiful vehicles which do not go the way of other manufacturers of the time and use things like generic underframes. The SD restaurants actually represent the prototype with bespoke roofs, interior and under frame detail. One of the reasons I love Dublo!

Thanks!

I am always struck by how clever the mind that thought it all out must have been. With four loops going the sound is deafening.

Ha! The dreaded front bogie. I left the derailment in. The points were set straight but this locomotive has a wandering front bogie, any bogie. I've tried swapping and as it seems not to like going forward for long periods of time I run it tender first mostly, with a 4MT bogie and coupling. This is Australia and we are downside up. It was heading due south.

​@@thedublorailway3803try putting a weight on the front bogie it does help.

​@@thedublorailway3803Try adding weight on your bogie it does help plus good clean up and check wheels are not warped.

I just picked one up in New Zealand for NZD125, about 60GBP. I think it's a bargain. I agree that things are getting tight.The 2 rail ones are plentiful and easy to convert

Once you get these things going they are pretty much trouble free but I feel that regular running keeps problems away. I have never seen anything like the solid oil deposit on the Co-Bo's engine. I've just bought an early 8f with a disconnected tender wire. Hoping that just like your Castle it will be plug and play.