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Haycross Audio
Великобритания
Добавлен 4 окт 2012
Speakers, Speakers, speakers. This channel is all about the repairs, refurbishments and upgrades I carry out on speakers. Most are client work but some are my own one off build projects. I love this line of work especially the measurements, crossover design and obviously the listening. Hope you enjoy the content.
PRO-AC Tablette Build - Another little one off
A little video on these Tablette cabinets I reused to trial a few different things.
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CELEF PE1 Speakers Part 1 - Super tweeter discussion
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The first installment on a pair of CELEF PE1 speakers. Super tweeter issues. I also discuss why I like a super tweeter and why I think there important. Oh and also BOVRIL!
Celestion Hadleigh conversion package
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I have done this conversion on many MK1 Hadleighs now. I thought I would video the whole process.
Snow in Devon - Snow day!! 21/11/24
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Snow in Devon - Snow day!! 21/11/24
HAYCROSS AUDIO HA3/6 Build Video - Available Now!
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A collage of photo's on how I build the HA3/6. These are available now. Contact me at info@haycrossaudio.co.uk
Celestion Ditton 11 one off build - HA Series news
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Pictures of a one of build I have just finished. A bit of news on the HA series to.
Dead Ditton 44 Speakers Part 5 - Measurements & Crossovers
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Measurement work and crossovers for these lovely one off speakers.
Viewer System Photo Request
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I'd like to put together a video featuring my lovely viewer systems. Please let me have a good photo and a quick description of your set up. If you can include a Pet and a Beverage of your choice.
BC1-PBR Speakers Part 1 - Another one off build
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Introduction to a one off speaker build I have been thinking about for a while.
Dead Ditton 44 Speakers Part 3
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Cabinet sanding and filling. Cover repairs. Driver cut outs.
Dead Ditton 44 Speakers Part 2 - Intro and cabinets
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Well even though these were so far gone my lovely client has asked me to bring them back to life in what ever form I see fit. There story will continue.
ATC Clone Speakers Part 2 - Crossover work
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Work involved to integrate the woofer correctly and to sort out the midrange and tweeter levels. Also addressing the lump in the tweeters roll off
ATC Clone Speakers Part 1 - Baffle step loss issues
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A pair of speakers which were brought in with bass and brightness issues.
Celestion Ditton 442 - Quick HA3/6 update
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A pair of Ditton 442 which came in for repairs, crossover work and cover cloth replacement.
News - Back on the repairs and refurbishments
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News - Back on the repairs and refurbishments
Dead Ditton 44 Speakers - To far gone?
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Dead Ditton 44 Speakers - To far gone?
Measurement systems and how I use them
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Measurement systems and how I use them
Celestion Ditton 22 Speakers - For Sami
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Celestion Ditton 22 Speakers - For Sami
Celestion Ditton 66 - Refurbishment and before / after measurements
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Celestion Ditton 66 - Refurbishment and before / after measurements
HAYCROSS AUDIO HA Series Speaker Update (BBC inspired)
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HAYCROSS AUDIO HA Series Speaker Update (BBC inspired)
Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part6
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Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part6
Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part5
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Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part5
Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part 4
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Celestion Ditton 15 One Off Build Part 4
Did you contact Dan?
@@acimbobby Who's Dan ?
@@haycrossaudio5474 I thought I'd left a message with you. Dan is a pro studio owner who runs HONYwood Studios. He is very good with speaker listening and he will help you get the pro-ac range sorted out. I think you are onto something with bringing that type of Studio Monitor to life maybe at a reasonable price. This type of speaker was used as well as the ever popular NS-10's. Have a chat with him as he is setting up a new control room next week. Thanks mate for what you are doing. When I started out listening it was the Mission 770's. Happy holidays.
@acimbobby A few of my HA Series speakers have gone into mixing studios which is pretty cool. Every time I hear the name NS10 I'm a bit sick in my mouth 🤣🤣
Another investing and enjoyable video. So refreshing developing a great sound using speaker units that you judged provided great performance at a reasonable cost.
I had a couple of proac speakers in the past the d2 and the 118 the d2 were good but not as good as the celestion county I bought of you when I upgraded I know where to go ❤
Thanks for the very kind words ❤
It would be interesting to see you including the resistive port arrangement (drinking straws) in some of your own builds. I do like the way this controls / loads the bottom end.
@@kjbunnyboiler it is an interesting concept. I plan on doing a huge series in the new year on all aspects of the Loud Speaker so will include the effects of this 🤩
Afternoon Matt👍👍
@@kjbunnyboiler Evening 🤩
You're on a roll! Regarding renovating tweeters, I replaced the ferrofluid in mine, but I'm not sure they are as good as they could be, sound a bit rolled off. Are there different viscosity ferrofluids?
@@mfr58 Ferrofluid is horrible stuff. As you know after time it can turn to marmite. I think the idea behind it was to help dissipate heat from the voice coil and possibly also to dampen the dome to reduce ringing. The tweeters I've worked on with Ferrofluid normally come apart well. I just remove the stuff. I don't put anything back. I'm sure there are different viscosity and using the wrong type could roll off the top end by over damping
@@haycrossaudio5474 Yes, the old stuff was hard to clean up. I wonder how necessary it really is for domestic hi fi, rather than professional audio where very high levels at hf may be more continuous....
@mfr58 Yeah I don't see the point in it for hifi even at high listening levels
Hi Matt, I just started watching your video :)
@@VinylsFinal These have really suprised the heck out of me. Already after a few hours running they have really opened up. I want to trial this 4 inch mid-woofer and tweeter together as I'm thinking of making my own version of the Ditton 22 and 33 next year. The DEVON 22 and 33 🤩
Do you mean to say these are the DEVON 10s? 😂 Well done, Matt. I wish I could listen to them 😊
@VinylsFinal 🤣🤣 no but I guess kinda 🤔. Now there's an idea 🤔
These 4" mid bass woofers could be a good fit for DEVON 22s Mid Range 😂 I am sure you'll figure out a matching tweeter and woofer.
@VinylsFinal The idea would be to use this tweeter and woofer as the mid and tweeter. I'd be running this 4 inch driver down to 100Hz before cutting it off. The 8 or 10 Inch woofer would play from 100Hz down so more of a Sub. Real full bodied full range speakers.
Listening to these now. Really lovely sounding. Beautifully detailed and crisp top end. Male vocals have body and depth. They dissappear to being so narrow. Good bass for such a small cabinet. Very agile. Nothing offensive at all. They still need to break in but I'm a very happy man so far ❤
Goodness… never expected to see these again. I had a pair as a student (many years ago) powered by my NAD amp. They sounded amazing from memory!
So much of this stuff from the late 70’s were rewriting the english manufacturing rule book as a departure from the high coloration wardrobes coming out of the main stream back then. The issue was that there were only a handful of driver manufacturers trusted and cost effective enough to allow the manufacturers to make money at those price points after dealer margin and shipment. The biggest issue was fear of charging the correct price for products so consequently many players went out of business relying on their overdrafts. It all got shook up when the Sansui mission celestion deal happened and the Sl6 appeared along with the sl700 finally bringing the importance of measurement and science to a world which used golden ears for too many years. It was a well known issue in the hi fi industry that the danish and Europeans were also capable of making speakers. Most recently China has affected the component market heavily. FFT, impulse response real-time RTA and accurate distortion analysis is getting us closer but we are still a long way off folks, a long way.
They look fantastic Matt 👍🏼
No subtitles available.😢 Otherwise always.
Hi, If you get the time can you please tell me what Peerless unit you've used there?
I had a pair of Pro9-TL speakers which came with the Audax tweeter. The D25 meant the dome was 25mm and the 12.9 meant the face-plate was 12cm x 9cm. They also made a less common version which was functionally identical but had a circular face-plate (can't remember the type ID).
@@TheRealWindlePoons That's correct 👌
Another great video! Interesting to see yet another speaker getting new life. Those Kef B200 8" bass drivers seemed popular in the 70's. I have them in my Kef Reference 104ab and I like them. Magnet is bigger than I was expecting.
Liqui moly makes a spray to rejuvenate rubber. Good for surrounds.
@@XtremeKremaTor I use Carbusonic rubber conditioner
Such a brilliant job on the Celestion Hadleighs, a really enjoyable watch. It’s great to see expertise keeping old but good technologies alive.
Just picked up a pair from a 2nd hand store for $10 new zealand dollars. Hopefully they're working
Those boxes look an awful lot like a DM4. Did they outsource all the parts?
@@BritProgJazz very different on all levels to a DM4. Bigger cabinet. Better cabinet control. Completely different drivers etc
@haycrossaudio5474 I'll have to see if I can find a pair, they look very interesting. Love your channel. Keep up the fantastic work! 🏆
This piqued my interest. I have a pair of Celef Min Pro SM. There is a dearth of reliable information about them. My ones had a Peerless tweeter and no name paper cone woofers. The foam was falling apart, so i replaced both drivers with the same ones as used in Musical Fidelity MC4, an Elac metal dome (the UK Elac and not the German company) and Audax TPX woofers. Not knowing anything about crossover networks, I just replaced the drivers. By heck they sounded great with my monster 300w monoblocks ( Rauch kit). I kept the old drivers and intend to repair the woofers. Infinite baffle, although I did try porting them, but ended up refitting the removed circles with a bit of car body filler for the gaps. I've got a hifi yearbook from some time in the 70s that mention them.
Nice job matt all the best
Hi Matt, very interesting speaker. Never heard of this brand. Wow to the woofer condition. Looking forward to seeing what you do with them :) Thank you!
What version of the B200 is that? The magnet looks big for SP1014. Also, is the crossover board a standard Falcon Acoustics part?
@@misterdecibel SP1039 version. The 1014 used a smaller motor although I really like the 1014. No not a Falcon board. Looks a bit like something KEF would have made.
Yes CELEF morfed into Pro Ac, I remember liking them rather a lot - if timing had been different I would have bought some. The straws were to reduce port noise and provide resistive damping if I remember correctly.
@@amok281 Yeah the straws have a number of functions. Clever design by Mr Tyler 🙂
I love all the multicoloured straws dangling out of the back of the port, hahaha, my favourite part of this speaker by far! That gold cap is interesting I think it may be a paper type capacitor. I've never tried Bovril before but I've heard it mentioned quite a lot, I might have to give it a try based on your description. Very interested to see more on these speakers.
Hi Matt, do you have a soldering iron recommendation please? Your vids are inspiring me.
One of my favourites, I in fact have owned two pairs of PE1’s over the years. Lovely design and construction and the resistive port loading is one of my favourite port implementations. I first saw Celef / Proac speakers around 1980 when Stewart Tyler introduced his first Proac model, the EBS which incorporated early drivers from ATC (bass & midrange) later followed by the Studio series. That super tweeter in the PE1 was made by Motorola from memory!
@@kjbunnyboiler Stewart Tyler. That was the name I couldn't remember. Thanks for the info on the PE tweeter. Motorola makes sense. Cheers
@@haycrossaudio5474 I was going to say it looked like the warning buzzer on the Waso security device fitted to 1970's GPO vans ( i was in the P.O garage mechanicing then) , so motorola is probably right.
They look great, Did some Heybrook Hb2 this year, sprayed some staple strips black look so much better.
Good to see a speaker with a wood colour baffle. Please don't use velcro on these 😂
@@user-thegoods71 velcro has its dampening benefits 🤣🤣🤣
What a really nice looking pair of speakers! I've not heard of CLEF before, must have been one of the many UK manufactures that sprang up in the late 70's / early 80's. They deserve to be brought back to life. I think I remember those super tweeters from my youth in the late 70's, as I remember they were the cheapest Motorola piezo tweeters - available from Maplin and many others.
@@caspar2155 you might be right with the super tweeters. It's an interesting concept I'm exploring.
I'm in west Wales, cats and dogs too, plus we've got a storm with 80mph winds on the way tomorrow. Batten down the hatches. Interesting to see a Celef speaker, I remember them from back in the day, not the one with the piezo though. Top job on the Hadleighs by the way.
@@mfr58 Thanks mate. Stay safe with the bad weather. Pretty windy here at the moment. Yes unusual to see a piezoelectric tweeter. I'm doing a lot of testing with these though. I'm very interested in them. Early results are promising. I'm wondering why these aren't used more??
@@haycrossaudio5474 I seem to remember something about piezos having issues with consistency in performance. It will be interesting to see the measurements of the ones you bought and how similar they are. ...Cheers.
@mfr58 And I remember You correct. They were enormously inconsistent. I had a chat with a supplier, who told that some 10 to 15 pct, were usable spec's wise. This in a production of pa speakers. Was a dream scenario, for us youngsters, dreaming SPL...
Hi Matt, What did you use on the woofers and does it leave any residue?
@@MustangBoss1973 I mask off the suspension. I then dust the cone with a few quick passes of black spray paint. I also spray the edge of the exposed chassis. The masking tape is removed and I then treat the rubber with rubber conditioner.
@ many thanks for the reply Matt
@MustangBoss1973 welcome mate
I absolutely love those woofers too
Afternoon Matt👍👍
@@kjbunnyboiler Good afternoon. Almost Good evening
Hi Matt, welcome back! You have been missing in action :) We miss you, mate. Lovely watching you show us your skill set. The woofers do have a deeper cone, unlike what I've ever seen or noted before in other speaker woofers, to be honest. As always, thank you for yet another super informative video.
Loads of videos coming up 😊
@haycrossaudio5474 Looking forward to all of them :) The one-off design you plan - using the same woofer sounds exciting. Would it be in a small, medium or large cabinet? Or is that a secret for now :)
@VinylsFinal Something like the devore fidelity o'baby
I wish you would have mentioned the bloody metal badges about three months ago. Luckily I didn't blow anything up, but had me thinking hard for a while what the problem was.. :) Great stuff thanks for the vids.
@@manosmul6827 LOL. I keep mentioning it on my Ditton videos 🤣
Is it difficult to find a midrange replacement. Is there an alternative. Cheers.
@@humoursque8447 not without reworking the crossover to integrate it I'm afraid.
Hi Matt, I just bought from you and very exited to hear them. You can thank Kelvin for starting the rabbit hole that lead me here. Regards Mark
Never seen speakers used in any house , in a room devoid of furniture , other components and tables/racks chairs and a tv set. In other words , why measure a speaker in a non representative enviroment ? Im not wishing to seem in any way negative , i just was trying to think of he reason. If i set up one of the sports suspension kits on the old GTI cars i worked on . On a smooth road with ultra grippy tarmac, when on the real roads , with iffy tarmac , camber , dips humps and surface issues , the car would be super skittish and for aa normal driver , unenjoyable . As a modifier i would favour a set up that worked well on the road , but ultimately the outright performance (grip in corners) was compromised . Is there a similar thought process with hifi, or does the inner "audiophile" demand anechoic perfection and then make judgements based on the speakers integration quality with the room , rather than actually what its doing in harmony with the room ?
@@AndrewNeilBaird Speakers are measured in an anechoic space so that the speaker is measured and not the room. This can be simulated by gating the measurement impulse response but your limited to how low you can measure. If a speaker was measured in the listening space it would be tailored to that room only. That's fine if your designing a speaker specifically for that particular room. This process is the normal way of speaker design. Measure the speaker and not the room.
@@haycrossaudio5474 Ok cool , interestingly , The single "Smile" a no1, by the Supernaturels was recorded in my friends small studio in Edinburgh. The final mix was decided by producing CD demos and playing them in a 1998 Ford Fiesta parked in the yard belonging to the keyboard player , the idea being that if its on the radio , much of your target audience is in a traffic jam on the way to work !! And if it sounded good , in the car, thats what mattered. FYI the final mix did sound awfull on the NS10 yamahas , but briiliant and punchy on the radio.
Having had kids, I know exactly how a binky and a pen get inside a loudspeaker... that port looks like a perfect opening to shove things into and watch them disappear!
Picked up a pair of these yesterday, I replaced the woofers with Kappa 90 ones. It sounds really good now. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for these videos. I bought a pair of these speakers recently. They actually have really good woofers but there is a hole in the midrange that is pretty noticeable of axis as you diagnosed. If I were in the UK I would definitely have sent these to you for an upgrade, but unfortunately I am across the pond in Canada, so I will have to redo the crossovers myself. I was wondering if there is a part 3 coming soon? The driver responses explain a lot but I was wondering if you did an impedance sweep for these drivers?
Sounds really natural and balanced. Be good to hear more clips, particularly of your new range
Really does look brilliant
Beautiful workmanship Matt!
Hello, I am looking for a pair of speakers for my Pioneer SA-6500 II amplifier 30W per channel, I have this KEF as an option and Yamaha NS-10M, which one you recommend to me? Greetings from Honduras, Central America.
@27.40 the gritty voice coil. Carefully cut the centre cap off , and with a vacuum hose sook out the bits from the centre coil , you will be amazed at how much of the "grit" is pieces of rust and white metal tarnish that's come off the basket and been drawn through the suspension concertina. And sometimes the coil is just melted from rock music through a midrange driver in a Diddy cabinet. Worth a try. Before binning it .
@@AndrewNeilBaird You must have watched one of my other videos 🤣. Yeah all tried. Knackered
@haycrossaudio5474 if you get the black quick set golf club makers epoxy , with a nicotine syringe from the vape shop, you can make a pin hole in the kef delamination around the centre caps and inject the resin , holding the magnet you can with wrist rotation , slowly ease the glue round the "white belly" portion and it sets in about 3 to 4 minutes. It really helps tighten the speaker up and piano chords about 600hz are greatly improved by not being so ringy.
Hi Matt, if I understand correctly you only ship speakers in England. Because of the risk.
@@tonwouterse7462 Partly and cost. It gets expensive to ☹
@@haycrossaudio5474thanks for your quick response
Thanks for your quick response😊
ATC Part 1&2 informative and enjoyable. Always a pleasure to watch and listen to your videos.
@@davidtizzard-i6z Very much appreciated 🙏
Very brief snow shower down here in Cornwall but nothing settled. Hope the workshop is warm Matt, mines 'king freezing !!