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Talbott injured again as of Dec 13. Maybe time to trade away one of our up-and-coming young players in GR. Except I would play them all and see what they can do at NHL level. Cossa sent back to GR after a few periods is just silly. Play him and see if he can be a starter.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when I look forward to watch podcasts ABOUT the Red Wings rather than watch their games. you guys are in my top three hockey channels on all of RUclips

The Wings suck

I have been red wing fan all my life never seen a team stink so much with all that talent need a goalie another goalie PLUS get ridvof the coach make move Stevie fast

Until they string together 3 or 4 wins, I’ve tapped out and I see no point in y’all covering this team

Cossa, Larks, Cat, Razor, Mo, Edvinsson are the untouchables ... eceryone else ... idgaf, waive, trade em ... whatver you need to in order to bring up the kids. Also, wtf wallman is putting up better numbers than half our team btw. Glad we gave a second pick and him away for a bag of pucks.

You both know the change will not happen under current ownership. Last time the coach was relieved of his duties during the season was in 80's. Wings may tank for high pick next draft. Personally I would love to have finally top 3 pick

Time to face the facts that we are literally squandering Larkins prime. This sucks.

Don’t mind the loss in a rebuild but the lack of fire and grit from the current lineup is mind boggling. Them guys get paid a lot of donuts to be fired up and ready to skate through a wall if need be and do what is necessary to win even if they got to bite knee caps and that just isn’t happening and I think it starts with the top down. The players Yzerman has signed are all depressing to watch. There is no fire and I don’t want to hear it’s the coach it’s on each individual to get fired up and make the opposing team to pay one way or another.

#firedereklalonde

Marian needs to clean up this mess. Fire yzerman, fire Lalonde, find a better GM and coach. When trading Walman and a 2nd round pick to San Jose that said it all. Made no sense. The wings cannot find chemistry for the life of them. I guess we can only hope that we get Michael Misa and Reese Hamilton.

Is this gonna be blashill 2.0.... just fire uncle fester already

By segment 3 im surprised Brian didnt bust out a bottle of jack and start lining up shots.

No way to salvage this mess. This firing should have happened 4-6 weeks ago. Another lost season.

Fire Uncle Fester !!!

We are witnessing the Re-Re-rebuild of the red wings. They didn't play sloppy, the are coached that way. Because every game is sloppy even the games the "mistakenly" win.

You want a hot take? If we traded Larkin, not only would we get a massive return, but we'd likely finish last next year. All these woes would be immediately justified if we landed Gavin McKenna. Seriously, I think we are closer to a tear down than we are to the playoffs. The only player on the Wings with lots of value who isn't the same age as Yzerman's core is.. Dylan Larkin. I love Larks, but I'm ready for drastic measures and I'm sure he's sick of losing. Plus, he'd bring in a haul of picks and prospects. The draft lottery system is fairer now, too. The Wings could go all youth, and suck it up for 2 more seasons. Imagine if we land McKenna and Dupont. I already think we're getting Anton Frondell this season. He's got legit 1C potential and is the best Swedish prospect in this upcoming draft. The Wings lack elite talent. The Wings lack high end skill. It's obvious that every team we play has players who can near single handedly beat us. We get out-skilled. We aren't going to get that skill in UFA. It isn't coming in some miraculous trade. The Wings need what they never got. They need top 3 picks. If Yzerman can get a Raymond with a 4th overall, what does he do with a top 2 pick? I seriously think this team goes nowhere indefinitely unless we embrace a 2-3 year basement run. Plus, that basement run must come with lottery picks.

Unlike most people here, apparently, I still feel very good about the long term health of this organization. With that said, this season is an embarrassment. I think we should trade some players for assets if we can but continue to try to win. Losing doesn’t help any of the players mentality, doesn’t make anyone want to come here, and also doesn’t guarantee us a high pick as we’re all well aware. I think a coaching change and system overhaul will help a lot, but the Illitch family simply doesn’t fire coaches mid season, and it seems unlikely to happen now. Lot of contracts come off the books this offseason. Hopefully Yzerman can do better in free agency

Have to give so many kudos to Talbs. He continues to give this team every chance to fight for wins even if most of them clearly have no interest in doing so.

Fire Yzerman

why did Kane resign? last year he had some pep in his step, this year he looks disinterested....its strange to me

Harkness!

Does Yzerman have a vendetta against the Red Wings? Is he bent on destroying this team? If he doesn't like the Wings, then go somewhere else.

That opening statement was spot on. I don't follow these two guys, but right is right. I'm exactly there with this team. What a sheet effort of last night's game.

As much as the Kane issue bothers me! In order to get him here I'm sure he was told we as an organization will do what we need to be a playoff team/ contender and detroit (yzerman) hasn't delivered! I know it's not an excuse to not try but damn this is what you put on this ice

Painful to watch is being polite. Dump and chase needs to stop they simply don’t know how. Watching every team just go grab the puck and breakout with no pressure game after game is hard to watch. They should try controlling the puck into the o zone because that’s when the actually get their chances and the fact that the coaching staff hasn’t identified that shows they should be fired. Outside the obvious being the players seem not to care anymore it’s all over their face in post game interviews I mean seeing the players reaction after Cossa first win should confirm to anyone that that’s the most alive the players have looked this whole season

I saw no urgency out of that team last night. I turned it off after the shorty against. It's time for something to change.

I'm breaking even on reselling my seats at the LCA. Not quite market value, but I save $150 a game by not having to pay for parking, beer and nachos. I'm done. It's too much to hassle twice or three times a week to watch us miss out on another playoff run. Scott, you were spot on. When fans look at our measly 38 points in February, then even the Yzerfans will be crying. Stevie did well with Tampa because he found an excellent coach. He hasn't found one in Detroit and we will continue to miss the playoffs until he does. And I'll stay home and watch the games. I'm just done.

I no longer take the losses seriously anymore. Yzerman did not make moves necessary to improve the Wings this past season. How much are his hands tied by Illitch from making big signings? I have no idea but it is apparent that Haris' hands are tied in trying to improve the Tigers. The Wings like the Tigers have some tremendous young talent but there are so many holes with both teams. With the Tigers at least we have Hinch, Fetters and others. Lalonde is not having the results that Hinch has been having. Whether or noit the Wings turn it around this season is not the point. Lalonde does not have the motivational ability to get this team going. Ray

I feel bad saying it but Kane is awful.

Every time we suck all I can think is maybe this will be the catalyst that gets rid of this clueless coach. If S.Y.'s goal was to tank , then that would explain alot ! I guess i thought that we had finally moved past that. I guess I was wrong ! Perhaps they reassessed the talent pool.

Honestly if feel bad for you both. You have to watch these games to do your show I can just turn the channel. Such a disappointed disgusted feeling watching this team this yr. The line combos are horrible minus the top line and the checking line fisher motte and who ever playing center usually give lots of energy and effort. Of course the top d pair and Talbot. After those guys the rest should be ashamed as a pro athlete take pride in what you do. Tarasenko I can’t fault he scores as a right side wing. Yea he can play left but is not effect so a miss use of his skill on left side. I see him trying but it’s not where he should be slotted so is yzerman at fault for getting a scoring right wing when he needed a scoring left wing this off season? Lastly I like Lalonde he seems like a good man and could be a good coach on a team suited for his game plan. That being said if they don’t replace him to show some sign of response for the teams play even if it’s symbolic then the front office is just accepting this product they put on the ice and will draft as high as they can and have all ready wiped this season which makes me angry as a fan. At least give the illusion of making a change for the product that is put on the ice for the fans. Like show your attempting to change this season even if it’s just a farce at least let us have hope for the rest of the season. This team will end up with empty seats in rink by end of yr if this continues

I AM DONE ! I CANNOT TAKE ANY MORE OF THE LALONDE ERA WINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know what exactly LALONDE has done to this team, but it is "obvious" that he has somehow sucked the SOUL out of these players. 100 percent, he has definitely lost the room. Perhaps Yzerman or Chris Illich don't care and just want a high draft pick. If that is the case then they need to go ALL in and just😢 trade Kane, Chiarot. a goalie and and anyone else that they won't be keeping next year ! (Do it right or don't do it at all). * As for the players, that was on par with the wings , when they were in full tank mode and picked S😢eider or Raymond in the draft. This performance coming off last game and along with the performance of our steller goalie is inexcusable ! This is how you can tell the players are done with Lalonde 100%...... and I hate to say it , but so am I !!! I strongly suggest a complete boycott of all things Red Wings until Chris Illich (& Yzerman if applicable) WAKE THE HE#@ UP ! It is time to Stop going to games and stop watching on TV. I am wondeting if the difference between Chris Illich and Mike Illich is not like WilliamClay Ford and Sheila Ford Hamp. I for one am feeling taken advantage of (in a similar way as lions fans did for 35-40 years) ?? Chris Illich puts a subpar product on the ice; yand the dumb fans spend good money to watch this terribleć, lifeless team undet perform night after night after night after night......

The word Scotty is embarrassing

At this point, I’d rather see them tank, get a decent draft pick, and rebuild 2.0.

You two hit in some good points but in this latest slide nobody is addressing what I consider some key questions: Where in the H_ll is the leadership? Where is the heart and pride?

We should let Lalonde go and trade Talbot and Kane for parts.... Bring up the kids.

A trade to improve the team would be difficult at this point, so a coaching change would be the only move. That's not guaranteed to help either... We're quickly headed toward a sell off at the deadline.

The most frustrating game I’ve watched all season. Yelling at the tv. I’ll say I’m done watching until next game

What the heck happened to them?😡 Different team Different goalie Why not play Cossa? Stupid Lalalonde

We're only a terrible team if you look at the actual results on the ice, as Lalonde continues to point out, if you look on paper we're one of the best teams in the entire league.

You know that meme where the guy is slowly putting on the clown make up? I feel like the boys are at stage 3 😂😭

This team cant score to save their life, and the "solution" to it is to put one of the very few players who creates, in Berggren, on the 4th line to play with stone hands like Veleno, Fischer or Motte. And put Rasmussen as the shooting option for Kane's playmaking? Where is the thought process here really, is there any? Amazing coaching again, Lalonde.😴😴😴

There is 1 good thing that could come from this season. Detroit is only 2 points from picking 3rd in the next draft. Yippee.

Kane has lost a step due to age but watch his brain and decisions…you can see he constantly has to wait for others to join a rush, get into a position but his line mates this year just don’t. These guys aren’t making themselves options bc the system is dump and chase. There is no sustained pressure at 5v5 bc the team hasn’t practiced that. Coaching has made puck possession “risky”. This is why games are boring, players don’t know what to do with the puck, and a playmaker like Kane (a vet) won’t fit. This gets into the mind of any player and we’re seeing the results on the ice. And anyone who thinks Kane should be able to do it alone is delusional. Even in his prime he had quality players with him.

Looking at some players Detroit traded away. Jake Walman 22 pts in 27 games, Shane Gostisbehere 25 pts in 28 games. These 2 weren't good enough to play on the Wings. I'm thinking they didn't get along with the coaching system. I'm glad Lalonde's contract expires at the end of the year.

How can there be any sign of improvement, when management/ownership will not make a single change?

For four years, I have commented that Yzerman doesn't have the Gile or intelligence to handle this job. He has loaded the management with buddies, who are worse than him. Illich doesn't care as he continues to make millions, Many fans have been defending this clown,but finally they are realizing that he was a great player, but is a dumbo as an executive. Yikes!