People still blaming him while Copp, Kane, Compher, Rasmussen, and Fischer can't keep the puck in the offensive zone for 30 seconds at a time is pathetic
Hard to be upset with the performance, hard to be happy with the result. PK needs to figure it out asap, but if we can start playing like that on a consistent basis this season will start to trend in a positive direction quickly. Big week coming up, let’s see what happens. LGRW
That’s stupid. There are 82 games a season. There are going to be games you’re outplayed and win and games where you outplay the other team and lose. The wings badly outshot and outchanced the presidents trophy winner from last year. Only gave up 5 non-empty net goals in a back to back games against two of the leagues expected best teams. Nobody is happy that they lost, but it’s okay to feel good about the direction of the team coming out of that 2 game set… assuming they keep playing the same way
Bob Boughner has shown to be a terrible coach at the NHL level, so of course he'd get hired to be on our coaching staff. I just worry that if they fire Newsy that they'll name Boughner as his replacement
Yep and blame Yzerman for not firing Lalonde last season or in the offseason. Yzerman needs to be fired too if he doesn't start making changes. It will never happen though.
A huge hole as in 3 points out of 3rd place in the division with 2 games in hand? I’m not happy about losing both games either, but let’s be realistic here
@@spencerdobkin9479I’m not as hard on SY for the roster moves as most, but the coaching situation is where I have 99% of my concern and what will cost him long term. I still hope I am somehow wrong but I’d bet a lot of money that this team won’t win with him as coach. Losing is one thing, but they are boring and lose.
Well if you paid any attention you would know it was because Lyon was hurt and Talbot played the night before, Husso only played because there wasn't another option, and I'm sure when Lyon is healthy Husso will be back on the griffons.
Husso is in net because Lyon is day to day. They didn’t bring up Cossa because he was pretty far from ready last season. I’m unsure about this season tho. Haven’t read any new scouting reports.
When the best teams in the league, they don't usually play their best hockey. The Wings are the best team when the better teams let them be the best team. This team will finish 7th in the Atlantic, and that is where they should finish based on the talent on this team. The defense is AHL level!
I said last year they are outscoring problems… exciting but when that comes back to earth it will deceive everyone…. And here we are. A bubble WC team that needs a lot to go right. Rebuild continues and it time to make a change either behind the bench or a significant trade for depth for a fresh effort.
It may be more interesting to listen to the Valenti Show with Rico. Why? Because Valenti himself will not hold back and say what fans are thinking about the Wings. You have winners on the roster like Kane and Terasenko. But tell me if you think anybody is wondering why players like Seider and Raymond, especially Seider himself, are making all that money and are not delivering? I'd like to see if those who continue to defend Seider's play on the ice can excuse him once again for a blown assignment, basically costing the Wings any chance at tieing the Rangers, when the $8.55 million dollar man mistakenly left the puck near the Wings blue line for a wandering Rangers' Tavares who took Seider's mistake and turned it into the Rangers' third goal, all but destroying any chance for the Wings to get back in the game. All you Seider fans have what excuse for your beloved Mo Seider this time? Could it be that a blown assignment happened once again because Mo Seider is playing over 22 minutes of hockey, more than anybody on the Wings roster? Wrong answer again. Yes, it's understandable that Seider is out there playing an eternity of minutes, but even if he wasn't, he is not a game changer, he is not playing like a star player. Translation: he should not be making $8.55 mil a year playing without the luxury of being a well rounded player on offense and defense. Do any of the naysayers and defenders of the $8.55 million dollar man, Mo Seider, have any solutions or even suggestions on Seider not destroying the Wings' chances to obtain points in a game? Look, Seider isn't the only reason fans are scratching their heads and booing the Wings' either from LCA Arena or from their TV sets in the comfort of their own homes. But, Seider does have the most lucrative contract currently on the roster at $8.55 million per year, does he not? With that kind of money paid, there are no excuses. Results matter, and huge salaries like these do not guarantee a trip to the playoffs. Are the Seider loyalists still naysaying? That will not bring us a successful Wings team.
Seider has some of the best metrics in the league and raymond is a ppg player bro you spend 30 minutes writing a paragraph just to look like a dumbass 😂😂😂
I know a loss is still two points missed out on, but I don’t understand the people calling for Lalondes head right now, We went .500 in a really tough september and played really well against two really good teams, and 9/10 times with those preformances you win. If we don’t go 2-1 or better during these next three games, that’s a different story, but losing two games we should’ve won to two really good teams doesn’t warrant a coaching change
Lalonde hasn't motivated these guys since they went on that trip in Sweden last season. Lalondes "systems" don't work. They have no hustle ,no chase on the dump and chases, they don't win board battles, they are too soft and that's on coaching.
Why do the Rangers and Leafs think they were outplayed and their goalies saved them? But comments about Detroit are negative to a great degree. NY and TO fans are criticizing their own poor play, and that they can't keep winning by always depending on their goalie. The other teams get bad opportunities and score. Detroit can't bury the puck. How many open nets has Copp missed.? The Wings look good and many players are getting better or adjusting. But bad luck is bad luck. For example Seider double taps the back past against NY. You know how that feels right! Or maybe you have not?
Fire Lalonde. And at this point maybe the special teams coach even tho pp is decent. Detroit finally plays offensively and sits johannson so Holl can play. Holl probably needs johannson to stay behind him and push him faster
It was very frustrating weekend we do allot better and lose lol - no let’s get it All at once next 22 ish games means allot we need to have a good run outta next 25 games we need to win 15 ish and get pints at least in some others - but watching how many shots on next some players are getting but just not putting it in besides a few - we needed a good one or two 2nd slash 1st liners even 3rd at times once they have 3 lines that other teams have to match she a 4th line that would be dangerous in a way too - hope I am wrong love kasper and hope here starts scoring soon 😊
If they make a coaching change right now they still have a chance if they wait another week or two definitely 0 chance, but the window is getting really small.
Trade Raymond ,Edvinsson and a 1st or 2nd round pick or something comparable for Brady Tkachuk .. he is the key for any team but Brady in ][)etroit .. come on Tell me I'm wrong so I can make you look stupid
R u insane? Edvinson alone i wouldnt trade straight up for Tkachuk type, for two reasons. First and foremost, if u trade one of our top defenders, what do we have left on D besides Seider and a roster full of 5th d-man. Secondly, he is our best prospect atm. You dont trade your best prospect when it looks like a rebuild year. Ill even add another point, if u trade for that type of guy and Raymond, the only thing left on the roster is Larkin. Do you think this team will look better??? Let me ask u a question, how has Ottawa faired with Brady with a better roster since he has been in Ottawa? It will be astounding that u will make anyone look stupid, when u put out such moronic trade scenario. Go ahead dude, try.
There will be one game (hopefully very soon) where Razor, Bergy and Kaspar will all score hatricks. The amount of posts and bars we've hit is ridiculous.
They didn't dominate anything. In the 2 games against Toronto and New York they were out hit 48-19 and outscored 7-1. Perimeter shots don't mean anything . They don't score any greasy goals. They are way too soft and slow.
You guys could be a lot more edgy and controversial on your analysis. So far the Wings have not displayed any defined team personality.Thats on coaching. Cut with the baby pablum approach. If things don't change by the end of November, change coaches.
This entire team hinges on a 29 year old captain who will start to decline just as ASP/MBN make the team. Kane will be gone and 0 elite talent in the prospect pool.
Plenty of Detroit fans were calling for AJ Hinch's job this year until they went on a crazy, historic run to make the playoffs. Dan Campbell lost the first 8 games of his tenure and everyone wanted him fired.
Just give up, sheesh. Why do you have such a weird attachment to Lalonde. He’s not head coach material. He had ONE job before this, an assistant coach. He doesn’t have the experience to do this. We’re done with him, Hes a clown.
@casewojo6186 where did I say anything about Lalonde? I dont care if they fire him, although I think Boughner should go first. However, the point that DET fans have never doubted Hinch or Campbell stands.
Petry should be healthy scratched the rest of the season Press Box Petry
People still blaming him while Copp, Kane, Compher, Rasmussen, and Fischer can't keep the puck in the offensive zone for 30 seconds at a time is pathetic
The "meh" factor for the Wings this year is off the charts. I wonder if Sherrone Moore and Lalonde get together for coffee every Monday morning.
Hard to be upset with the performance, hard to be happy with the result. PK needs to figure it out asap, but if we can start playing like that on a consistent basis this season will start to trend in a positive direction quickly. Big week coming up, let’s see what happens. LGRW
when you get shutout and scored on 4 times there is something to be upset about. I don't care how they played during the game they didn't win
That’s stupid. There are 82 games a season. There are going to be games you’re outplayed and win and games where you outplay the other team and lose. The wings badly outshot and outchanced the presidents trophy winner from last year. Only gave up 5 non-empty net goals in a back to back games against two of the leagues expected best teams. Nobody is happy that they lost, but it’s okay to feel good about the direction of the team coming out of that 2 game set… assuming they keep playing the same way
Penalty kill is atrocious. The special teams coaches should be under fire with Lalonde
Bob Boughner has shown to be a terrible coach at the NHL level, so of course he'd get hired to be on our coaching staff. I just worry that if they fire Newsy that they'll name Boughner as his replacement
Once again they are digging a huge hole that they will never get out of this season. Brilliant.
Yep and blame Yzerman for not firing Lalonde last season or in the offseason. Yzerman needs to be fired too if he doesn't start making changes. It will never happen though.
A huge hole as in 3 points out of 3rd place in the division with 2 games in hand? I’m not happy about losing both games either, but let’s be realistic here
Once again?? The last 2 years they started off great and then had a huge collapse later in the season
@@spencerdobkin9479I’m not as hard on SY for the roster moves as most, but the coaching situation is where I have 99% of my concern and what will cost him long term. I still hope I am somehow wrong but I’d bet a lot of money that this team won’t win with him as coach.
Losing is one thing, but they are boring and lose.
They have no chance at the playoffs till they have a new coach.
No defense, hardly any offense, I don’t see much of a playoff future for this team this season.
Why is Husso in our net???? We still haven't learned
Well if you paid any attention you would know it was because Lyon was hurt and Talbot played the night before, Husso only played because there wasn't another option, and I'm sure when Lyon is healthy Husso will be back on the griffons.
@ZeruelZero Should have brought up Cossa
No reason not to.
@@ZeruelZero oh I've paid attention alright
Husso is in net because Lyon is day to day. They didn’t bring up Cossa because he was pretty far from ready last season. I’m unsure about this season tho. Haven’t read any new scouting reports.
@@ericw3229you're stupid. Countless reasons not to.
We have a good enough roster, they should be winning .500 and not look like garbage doing it. When does the coaching change happen???
When the best teams in the league, they don't usually play their best hockey. The Wings are the best team when the better teams let them be the best team. This team will finish 7th in the Atlantic, and that is where they should finish based on the talent on this team. The defense is AHL level!
I said last year they are outscoring problems… exciting but when that comes back to earth it will deceive everyone…. And here we are. A bubble WC team that needs a lot to go right. Rebuild continues and it time to make a change either behind the bench or a significant trade for depth for a fresh effort.
Detroit rarely ever beat Johnathan Quick
The only game I saw live was when Datsyuk fought Corey Perry. Dirty whiny baby since juniors. Got the Gordie Howe that night.
The Wings are spinning their wheels...Uncle Festers seat should be getting very warm about now...
😂 Two games lost
Outscored 7-1
Shutout at home
😂
Losing is losing.
Quoting stupid stats to spin things into something positive is a joke
It may be more interesting to listen to the Valenti Show with Rico. Why? Because Valenti himself will not hold back and say what fans are thinking about the Wings. You have winners on the roster like Kane and Terasenko. But tell me if you think anybody is wondering why players like Seider and Raymond, especially Seider himself, are making all that money and are not delivering? I'd like to see if those who continue to defend Seider's play on the ice can excuse him once again for a blown assignment, basically costing the Wings any chance at tieing the Rangers, when the $8.55 million dollar man mistakenly left the puck near the Wings blue line for a wandering Rangers' Tavares who took Seider's mistake and turned it into the Rangers' third goal, all but destroying any chance for the Wings to get back in the game. All you Seider fans have what excuse for your beloved Mo Seider this time? Could it be that a blown assignment happened once again because Mo Seider is playing over 22 minutes of hockey, more than anybody on the Wings roster? Wrong answer again. Yes, it's understandable that Seider is out there playing an eternity of minutes, but even if he wasn't, he is not a game changer, he is not playing like a star player. Translation: he should not be making $8.55 mil a year playing without the luxury of being a well rounded player on offense and defense. Do any of the naysayers and defenders of the $8.55 million dollar man, Mo Seider, have any solutions or even suggestions on Seider not destroying the Wings' chances to obtain points in a game? Look, Seider isn't the only reason fans are scratching their heads and booing the Wings' either from LCA Arena or from their TV sets in the comfort of their own homes. But, Seider does have the most lucrative contract currently on the roster at $8.55 million per year, does he not? With that kind of money paid, there are no excuses. Results matter, and huge salaries like these do not guarantee a trip to the playoffs. Are the Seider loyalists still naysaying? That will not bring us a successful Wings team.
Tavares plays for the Rangers now?
Seider has some of the best metrics in the league and raymond is a ppg player bro you spend 30 minutes writing a paragraph just to look like a dumbass 😂😂😂
I know a loss is still two points missed out on, but I don’t understand the people calling for Lalondes head right now, We went .500 in a really tough september and played really well against two really good teams, and 9/10 times with those preformances you win. If we don’t go 2-1 or better during these next three games, that’s a different story, but losing two games we should’ve won to two really good teams doesn’t warrant a coaching change
Lalonde hasn't motivated these guys since they went on that trip in Sweden last season. Lalondes "systems" don't work. They have no hustle ,no chase on the dump and chases, they don't win board battles, they are too soft and that's on coaching.
It’s not a “now” thing. Many of us wanted him gone in the offseason.
It is pretty clear too, that Ville Husso is not an NHL goalie anymore, In addition to the other problems
Who?
@b-retrogamer2324 lol that's a bad auto correct that I didn't catch
not the same personnel on the PK this year. We no longer have the two best defensmen not named Seider. They miss Walman and Maata big time.
Why do the Rangers and Leafs think they were outplayed and their goalies saved them? But comments about Detroit are negative to a great degree. NY and TO fans are criticizing their own poor play, and that they can't keep winning by always depending on their goalie. The other teams get bad opportunities and score. Detroit can't bury the puck. How many open nets has Copp missed.? The Wings look good and many players are getting better or adjusting.
But bad luck is bad luck. For example Seider double taps the back past against NY. You know how that feels right! Or maybe you have not?
Fire Lalonde. And at this point maybe the special teams coach even tho pp is decent. Detroit finally plays offensively and sits johannson so Holl can play. Holl probably needs johannson to stay behind him and push him faster
You can not call a team "the better team" when they're losing 3-1 or 4-0. That's ridiculous.
Brian’s logic center is broken.
@@b-retrogamer2324this is the “cope” phase of the process. This team sucks.
How sorry, they can't even pull the goalie without scewing it up!
It was very frustrating weekend we do allot better and lose lol - no let’s get it All at once next 22 ish games means allot we need to have a good run outta next 25 games we need to win 15 ish and get pints at least in some others - but watching how many shots on next some players are getting but just not putting it in besides a few - we needed a good one or two 2nd slash 1st liners even 3rd at times once they have 3 lines that other teams have to match she a 4th line that would be dangerous in a way too - hope I am wrong love kasper and hope here starts scoring soon 😊
"I might get arrested" very funny....
We definitely are not making the playoffs this year.
If they make a coaching change right now they still have a chance if they wait another week or two definitely 0 chance, but the window is getting really small.
Don’t care anymore, like at all. Until big changes come, I just don’t care.
So far i miss being in the west division
That has nothing to do with anything? We wouldn’t make the playoffs either way? We suck.
Trade Raymond ,Edvinsson and a 1st or 2nd round pick or something comparable for Brady Tkachuk .. he is the key for any team but Brady in ][)etroit .. come on Tell me I'm wrong so I can make you look stupid
You can't possibly have this much brain damage so what's your excuse for being this stupid? Gotta ask 😂
R u insane? Edvinson alone i wouldnt trade straight up for Tkachuk type, for two reasons. First and foremost, if u trade one of our top defenders, what do we have left on D besides Seider and a roster full of 5th d-man. Secondly, he is our best prospect atm. You dont trade your best prospect when it looks like a rebuild year. Ill even add another point, if u trade for that type of guy and Raymond, the only thing left on the roster is Larkin. Do you think this team will look better??? Let me ask u a question, how has Ottawa faired with Brady with a better roster since he has been in Ottawa? It will be astounding that u will make anyone look stupid, when u put out such moronic trade scenario. Go ahead dude, try.
Can we get sundquist back? His physicality is sorely missed
Taking stupid penalties isn't helping...
They need to getting players in front of the goalie, Homer style.
Kasper will fill that role eventually
They smashed the Rangers and still lost 4- zip haha HIT THE NET PLEASE
Team will not win with chiariot and petry in lineup other than when their goalie steals a game.
There will be one game (hopefully very soon) where Razor, Bergy and Kaspar will all score hatricks. The amount of posts and bars we've hit is ridiculous.
The redwings are cooked
They didn't dominate anything. In the 2 games against Toronto and New York they were out hit 48-19 and outscored 7-1. Perimeter shots don't mean anything . They don't score any greasy goals. They are way too soft and slow.
You guys could be a lot more edgy and controversial on your analysis. So far the Wings have not displayed any defined team personality.Thats on coaching.
Cut with the baby pablum approach. If things don't change by the end of November, change coaches.
I would put Veleno second line center with tarasenko and kane on his wings
Brother joe veleno is dogshit lmfao. Kasper does everything he does and way better
This team is so bad it’s not good enough to tank.
Strong performance? What a joke
Silence pilgrim. Go back to football/baseball you don't know hockey
This entire team hinges on a 29 year old captain who will start to decline just as ASP/MBN make the team.
Kane will be gone and 0 elite talent in the prospect pool.
Plus who has never won a thing in his career including juniors and college
I think you could argue ASP is elite but yes we lack forwards in the system that have that game breaker factor.
Plenty of Detroit fans were calling for AJ Hinch's job this year until they went on a crazy, historic run to make the playoffs. Dan Campbell lost the first 8 games of his tenure and everyone wanted him fired.
Just give up, sheesh. Why do you have such a weird attachment to Lalonde. He’s not head coach material. He had ONE job before this, an assistant coach. He doesn’t have the experience to do this. We’re done with him, Hes a clown.
@casewojo6186 where did I say anything about Lalonde? I dont care if they fire him, although I think Boughner should go first. However, the point that DET fans have never doubted Hinch or Campbell stands.
The Wings stink! Any decent team will beat them silly. They have no system, style, and no fwk'en COACH. Don't look for them in the playoffs.