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And Melina might be the last fragment of Marika

Stop cutting/changing dialogues for your own personal theories...marika says "my other self" not "half" and later she says...."lets both be shattered" so, this is clearly pre destruction of the ring...if you did it on purpose to make your theory fit, its wrong...if you dont do it on purpose, now you know...

Good theory but let's remember that characters know Marika is "now nowhere to be found". If Radagon was the main personality all this time along why bothering with the imprisonment of Marika. (It could still be that he was very angry for the shattering and, with the help of the Elden Beast, it self-crucified after blocking with barbs the entrance to the Erdtree). I agree that Radagon came to be some time before Marika became a God. Maybe the treason itself was the existance of Radagon, hidden away, to replace the previous God/Elden Lord (or hornsent's candidate to be God) in the SoTE story trailer. "An affair from which gold arose"

You guys must not have seen the mistranslation of the ending. Ranni and us act like shield from the cold night to keep it away from the new world. Into fear and darkness.

Ohhh shit. Commenting before watching, but just wanted to say if this is going to talk about what ive always sed, lets goooo

Radagon IS Marika though 🤨 thats like saying Stalin isnt responsible for the atrocities of the USSR that's actually Joeseph. Also if anything id think Radagon was the one trying to hide and repair Marikas reputation from her own horrible actions. That said the reason I think there are split item descriptions when it comes to Marika is because half of it is the official narrative and the other half is the truth of her actions.

radagon was planted in marika to control her by the greater will when she stole the ascension from the hornsent. the old farum azula elden ring was then replaced by the elden beast. either that or radagon and marika was the result of an alchemical ribus after a successfull pot shaman saint was made by the bonny village potentates

I think they needed each other to become one god. The fingers didn’t like what she was doing and Radagon agreed. The fingers and radagon turned against her and to get back at them she broke the Elden ring and calls for all her kids and all the tarnished to come “Fix” the golden order I.e. replace radagon with a new half she can to their god hood . If it wasn’t us it would’ve been godfrey

I think the clues are in the saint jars. Radagon and Marika were in the same Jar together, along with others, and thats where he comes from. She is the matriarch, so she has the real power, but hes always been in there. When she got her phenomenal cosmic powers, Radagon got some too, just the dregs, though. Maybe that explains the gaps in his cracked body afterwards? The part of him that is dead is gone, but the truly immortal bits remained, bolstered by the elden ring. Ranni had to escape the flesh jar by building a new body. Godwyn began cancerously melding with everything uncontrollably when he lost his soul. Shadow beasts are just another form of jar that was taken and coopted by the golden order/greater will. I think that Godfrey is a hint at Radagon/Marika's true nature. One had to kill the other to be set free, just like Godfrey and Serosh... just like Ranni and Godwyn... Just like Ranni and Blaidd... Just like the reverse to the practice of Grafting... Just like Miquella and Trina... the polar opposite of Malenia and the Rot god, who are joining rather than separating... Now that I think about it, Marika might have been chosen to host the elden ring specifically because of her multiple melding nature. You'd think thousands of years of shaman jar attempts by the Hornsent would have produced something other than cronenberg people. Maybe she has some sort of flaw or crack in her soul that allows outer gods access to a famously neutral piece of territory in the cosmos.

So the masculine aspect of Marika usurped her body and powers ?

This also fits because in the dlc we learned the elden beast is acting on its own accord and that the greater will isn't actually communicating to it. when you go to the third church of marika its insinuated that Marika had already begun to question the "Greater will" and she states that she was going to learn all there is about the golden order instead of following it blindly. I believe she made a ton of terrible decisions but it was 100% Radagon/Elden Beast that influenced said decisions by claiming it was to the behest of the greater will. Once she started resisting and eventually shattered it? Radagon taking over her body completely checks out. That makes her literally caged in her divinity like what St.Trina warned Miquella about. nice video.

Fuck man, now I gotta go get stuff for a prawn cocktail

I agree about the majority of the video, and have felt this was the case for a long time now, but I have always felt line "Thou’rt yet to become me. Thou’rt yet to become a god" was more of a bitter rebuke than you portray here. It always came off as an either a cold warning against attempted treachery or a heated response to an actual betrayal. This would only make sense to me if it came after his return from Caria and the establishment of GO Fundamentalism. My guess is that there was a silent schism within Leyndell’s religious and political leadership, with Fundamentalist choosing Radagon’s regression + causality over Marika’s abundance + blessing, and that very heterodoxy created a gap that widened until he finally usurped and imprisoned her - triggering The Shattering.

Merika shattered the ring, not Radagon!

Odd thing I thought about for the Gate of Divinity with Miquella but he needed Mogh’s body to usher in a lord’s return so Radahn could ascend to be his king consort and Miquella could become a god, could Marika just be the vessel for Radagon to be her king consort and usher the Elden Beast as the current god?

very cool video remind me a lot of the usurping theory by JarHed

Radagon is Gunna confirmed.

This also gives credence to Miquellas decision to abandon Trina. Having seen his parents toxic partnership and how Radagon took over, he could have been wary of the same thing happening to himself

The Great Radagon... Full of Ambition... Marika's other half... When he came about, Marika has already so much established herself, this made him insecure and wanted more. I agreed...

I like the themes that Elden Ring and Lies of P tried to cover

Miquella's, Shamans' and the living jars' lore made clear that, in fact, Marika and Radagon were separeted beings during the golden order era, after Godfrey. As Miquella did to St. Trina, Marika herself did to strip away Radagon from her body, that is why they have Miquella and Malenia and Radagon was able to join the Carians even when Marika still exists. The throne in Leydell was not empty during this time, Marika was there with Godfrey. In the end, Radagon returned to Marika but as her husband.

2:04 i mean, radagon is her consort,which is why he's fighting for her, like like how we dont fight miquella directly, we fight radahn. I dont think Marika is a good person at all, she's the pull trying to pull a lot of the strings in the background by manipulating and using different characters

Would you NOT want to get with yourself? Even if ur not gay, if u could gender bend you’d def go for it. No more disagreements. No more conflict of priorities. No more “what the fuck babe thats gross you’re a pervert” Winning all around. Radagon is sigma prime.

Why does she tell him 'he is not yet her, not yet a god.' if he's the divine prison/entity wouldn't that be a nonsensical statement.

Marika and radagan have always been one person I’m pretty sure that was explained all true emperions have to sides like mikali they just never seperated completely which made one of them (radagan) able to be controlled by the greater will even though the other (marika) was still a God able to destroy and create! Which is why mikali got rid of his weaker side that wouldn’t become a God and would hold him back enabled to be controlled

This makes so much more sense.

I don't like this theory because it takes agency from Marika 🤔But it's true that Shattering was just a big scale divorce and their kids act accordingly.

Does that mean radagon is the gloam eyed queen?

Nah. It was definitely Marika, this is the mental gymnastics of a Simp...it's fine, all Tarnished fall for Marika's greatest attribute. Even Sellena has 2 great personalities that we love.

what if in Nightreign the night lord is Melina in her form at the end of the frenzied flame ending?

Marika is being presented in a crucified manner in comparison to land of shadow she’s presented as a caring giving god Leda mentions how we are there on common reasons but for different purposes This is a theme through out the game Common interests Different outcomes

Marika was possessed the entire time I keep saying this and were are starting to come around to it as a community but listen Radagon of the GOLDEN ORDER It’s not that he’s a piece of shit it’s that Marika was never supposed to be in this position SHE WAS USED AS A PUNISHMENT ON THE HORNSENT Which is probably one half of the the Draconian race Who are descendent a of dragons

So about night reigns story i hear no one talk about this everyone is focused on old bosses returning (dark souls bosses) But hear me out The actions of the tarnished never happened so everyone is still alive Things might have happened melina might have done something Ranni might have done something Everything is possible (Miquela is also alive😶) Spread this info so more people will talk about it

notice at 6:45 that Radagon actually ermeges from a tree in the statue while Marika does not. Maybe he got created when the erdtree got created and maybe its a persona the greater will forced on marika at the same time

I think that conversation takes place right before the shattering since she says “let us both be shattered, mine other half”.

Too bad we didn't get any new info on Radagon in the DLC and we probably never will.

I feel like the Weiner lover didn't know what he was talking about.

0:23 Ok, but they’re ✨magic✨prawns

This is pretty interesting. Not to mention makes things between the two much more interesting, especially if Messmer is indeed Radagon's son.

You know we don’t fight Marika cause Marika is the one guiding us…. Grace is Marika

With the DLC I still think Radagon was separate at some point but was fused with Marika. Maybe it was Marika's final original order to bring the tarnished back hoping they could separate her from Radagon.

maybe Radahn forgot he hates Radagon, because of his brainrot

Man for some reason I thought it was the Dark Lord from DS3 if you end the fire cycle. But it's Night Lord.

Another missed detail is that Marikas statue appears as if she's a flower. Radogan is seen with Thorns which are directly related to the Cardinal Sin. The earliest possible showing of Radogan was at the Giants Mountain in a nearby Church. The Giants Whip suggests and hints Radogan maybe related to the giants because of his red hair. Marikas actions could be blamed of Radogan which means Radogan was the one to wipe out all the giants. The nearby Flame Monks are always adorned in red and casting thorn sorceries. So again Thorns + Red Hair + Giants and they all tie back into Radogan.

The way it's phrased is also telling. It's Radagon is Marika. Not Marika is Radagon.

"So, she was obsessed with the moon. Her house was sinking into this swamp, and I mean there's an entire lake of rot down there. I got dudes running around all over the place looking like the Burger King mascot in bathrobes, everyone's hooked on 'Glintstone' which is basically magic space crank, and then there's the crawling hand things all over the yard. When I found out Marika was single again, it was basically just an excuse to get the hell out of there. I'm gonna fix that Elden Ring thing and see if I can remove the rune of 'crazy' from it- because that Carian chick has a head full of it." -Radagon, probably

maybe when we see them at the boss fight marika is already dead but radagon still lives? that could explain why they only move when ginger mode turns on

The seduction……The betrayal……🤯

We have to think of this as a form of body horror/spit personality in a way. You have Marika, a god, which has lived possibly decamillennials, decides to "grow" a male side and experiece life differently. Marika was always in control. This game is a great exedcise in metaphysics and the most important TIME as the engine of creation. Eventually a plant on earth eill grow legs and walk. How long? millions of years for us, a split second for a god. Maybe, why would Marika decide to experiment with another form of self. I think here is a human condition question only, maybe to disappear in obscurity for the sins of her past in a better body and ideals as a man? Who tf knows. Primarily Elden Ring is a story about TIME

I think Miquella and St Trinas situation mirrors and also parallels Marika and Radagon in stark contrast. St Trina begs us to kill Miquella as shes dying before us, not out of anger, but because she knows divinity will be a prison for him. Marika wanted freedom from the Greater Will and EB and shattered the ER, then Rads comes along and A) tries mending the Ring and B) crucifies the Marika self. They're polar opposites. It also begs to question "what" aspect of Marika became Radagon. Like we know Miquella abandoned his "love" which was St Trina. I think, Radagon is Marikas' "sin" red has been pseunomenous with sinning, just an idea.