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"Explaining The 5 Steps" Responding To Reformed Pilgrim
Reformed Pilgram contacted me about something I mentioned in my explanation of John 6. I stated that John 6 was step three not step one. I want to thank him for reaching out to me and I pray this video helps explain what I see in the Gospel of John. Click on the link to see the "Reformed Pilgrim" video. Blessings ruclips.net/video/TJMwrisfPv4/видео.htmlsi=tGoxtHzIXF-7jmuZ @reformedpilgrim
Convo With Kaboom:
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When Calvinist Say, "Corporate Election is still made up of individuals!"
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Looking at one of the Calvinist arguments when you bring up Corporate Election. ruclips.net/user/live9pcxH-XSXRg?feature=share
Fixed An Anti-Marriage Video I found on TikTok!
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Fixed An Anti-Marriage Video I found on TikTok! www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8NN9auv/ og video link.
Responding to Dr. White on John 6.
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Yesterday on R.F.G Dr. White spoke about people who view John 6 the way I do and I wanted to take a minute to respond in love. ruclips.net/video/o3pXpK6sF2s/видео.html
John 6: 25 - 71 Verse by Verse With Guest Dr. Jonathan Williams
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Join me as I walk verse by verse through John 6 with Dr. Jonathan Williams. Seeking to explain the verses in the context of the Gospel of John. John 6: 25 - 71 Verse by Verse With Guest Dr. Jonathan Williams.
Talking John 6:44 and World Missions With Dr. Jonathan Williams
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Talking John 6:44 and World Missions With Dr. Jonathan Williams www.wgsministries.org/ ruclips.net/p/PLGkNjgD16fYZvTztK2B4E2g0iRZXYbRA-
What About The Gentiles In The Old Testament?
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What About The Gentiles In The Old Testament?
Finding "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers Part 3 (Non-Calvinist)
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In this video, we look at three "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers. This video will give you a short overview of Leonard Ravenhill, Steve Gregg, and J. Vernon Mcgee. Leonard Ravenhill www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1 ruclips.net/p/PLTJHc2m7bz80KKNQhB6PGqeUdDdT1h37x Steve Gregg @TheNarrowPath www.thenarrowpath.com/ J. Vernon Mcgee www.ttb.org/ @DrJVernonMcGee
Dr. Jonathan Williams Critical Analysis of "The Justification of God" By Dr. Piper Romans 9:1-23
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Have you ever wondered what Paul was trying to teach in Romans nine? Check out the playlist below to find links to four videos that go over Romans 9:1-23. Jonathan Williams Critical Analysis of "The Justification of God" By John Piper Romans 9:1-23 ruclips.net/p/PLGkNjgD16fYZvTztK2B4E2g0iRZXYbRA-
Hidden Dangers Of Calvinism: Did Christ Die For Sinners?
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Hidden Dangers Of Calvinism: Did Christ Die For Sinners?
Hidden Dangers of Calvinism: Hopelessness, Fatalistic, and Deterministic
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Hidden Dangers of Calvinism: Hopelessness, Fatalistic, and Deterministic
Understanding Romans 9 (Non-Calvinist)
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Understanding Romans 9 (Non-Calvinist)
Finding "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers Part 2 (Non-Calvinist)
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Finding "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers Part 2 (Non-Calvinist)
Finding "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers Part 1 (Non-Calvinist)
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Finding "None Should Perish" Preachers and Teachers Part 1 (Non-Calvinist)
Understanding 2Timothy 2:25 Deconstructing Calvinism
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Understanding 2Timothy 2:25 Deconstructing Calvinism
My Story of Believing and Leaving Calvinism
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My Story of Believing and Leaving Calvinism
Hidden Danger of Calvinism
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Hidden Danger of Calvinism
John Chrysostomus Gospel of John Homilies 1 - 10 Audio Only Ch 1: 1-13
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John Chrysostomus Gospel of John Homilies 1 - 10 Audio Only Ch 1: 1-13
How Did We Get Here? What Went Wrong? Danger, Death, and Destruction
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How Did We Get Here? What Went Wrong? Danger, Death, and Destruction
Eph 1:4 Illustration
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Eph 1:4 Illustration
Vessels of Wrath and God's Pathos: Potter / Clay Imagery Romans 9: 20-23
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Vessels of Wrath and God's Pathos: Potter / Clay Imagery Romans 9: 20-23
Why Does Calvinism Sound Biblical When it is NOT? Deconstructing Calvinism
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Why Does Calvinism Sound Biblical When it is NOT? Deconstructing Calvinism
Acts13:48 Appointed When? Deconstructing Calvinism Part 1
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Acts13:48 Appointed When? Deconstructing Calvinism Part 1
St. John Chrysostom The Gospel Of John Homily II John 1:1
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St. John Chrysostom The Gospel Of John Homily II John 1:1
St. John Chrysostom Homilies On The Gospel Of John Homily I. Preface
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St. John Chrysostom Homilies On The Gospel Of John Homily I. Preface
Provisionism VS Arminianism on Prevenient Grace
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Provisionism VS Arminianism on Prevenient Grace
Romans 8: 28-30 "The Golden Chain of Hope for Those Who Love God" Deconstructing Calvinism
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Romans 8: 28-30 "The Golden Chain of Hope for Those Who Love God" Deconstructing Calvinism
No Grace for You
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No Grace for You
How to Not Read Your Bible
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How to Not Read Your Bible
All people to be saved
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All people to be saved

Комментарии

  • @charlestonjames
    @charlestonjames 14 часов назад

    Good explication. I think tackling definitions is a good way of getting passed talking points and reaching real points of contention. Could you try to explain whether spiritual deadness is literal or metaphorical? I try this in writing here: feltd.wordpress.com/2024/08/30/is-spiritual-deadness-literal-or-metaphorical/

  • @5johnsneed7
    @5johnsneed7 2 дня назад

    If you don't want to be a Calvinist then don't, and leave the rest of us alone.

  • @johncollier3175
    @johncollier3175 4 дня назад

    It's very biblical, calvinism is.

  • @truthtransistorradio6716
    @truthtransistorradio6716 6 дней назад

    I believe the same thing is true about the traditional doctrine of hell. I have come to believe that the bible teaches annihilation and not eternal conscious torment. Both Eternal Conscious Torment and TULIP became popular under Augustine in the 5th century. The protestant movement has largely been based on Augustine.

  • @emmanuelmakoba6085
    @emmanuelmakoba6085 9 дней назад

    Amazing explanation, brother. Wow. I left Calvinism this year but you've just given me more wisdom.

  • @richardhislop9928
    @richardhislop9928 13 дней назад

    The reformers (calvinists, etc.) have been, over the centuries ; accenting the texts that demonstrate Yahweh's absolute positive and negative control, over all things, which He created from the non-existent.. Light, darkness, good, evil, which He alone creates ; are all exemplified, personally, with no help from anyone else, by these sole means : "I KILL, I MAKE ALIVE, I WOUND, I HEAL ; and there's NONE besides ME.".. This is our firm foundational belief.. It rips the heart out of any presupposition, of the assumption of power, by man, to even come to God, even though told to.. As a result of Decreeing all, He therefore grants what He requires, to come to Him, though ironically "dragging us to Christ.".. Yes ; "NO MAN CAN COME EXCEPT IT BE GIVEN him of My Father." .."except he be dragged, drawn.".. Yahweh Acts Initially, to make "ALIVE," before anyone else can.. It's done, even though invisible to the eye, as all things are..

  • @Kooch2004
    @Kooch2004 15 дней назад

    What caused them to fear God? None of these breakdowns are in context or throughly exegeted. I’d like to see someone explain free will to Paul as he was laying on the side of the road blind.

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 15 дней назад

      @@Kooch2004 Acts 26:19 “Therefore, O King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 11 дней назад

      mooch, your free will reply to this rebuttal?

    • @Kooch2004
      @Kooch2004 11 дней назад

      @@truthseeker5698 what rebuttal?

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 11 дней назад

      @@Kooch2004 Acts 26:19

    • @Kooch2004
      @Kooch2004 11 дней назад

      @@truthseeker5698 is there a question?

  • @MarthaEllen88
    @MarthaEllen88 16 дней назад

    Thank you for this. Looking forward to checking it out. Keep posting. You explain clearly and are an engaging speaker. Such an important topic. We have a new pastor and I am grappling with Calvinism for the first time. Appalled.

  • @dougseely1174
    @dougseely1174 20 дней назад

    Because it is biblical

  • @alenasvarkulys2810
    @alenasvarkulys2810 22 дня назад

    very good and very true all about calvinism.

  • @douglasmcnay644
    @douglasmcnay644 23 дня назад

    Because it is...?

  • @ryleighloughty3307
    @ryleighloughty3307 Месяц назад

    Regrettably, your understanding of Calvinism is incomplete. I hope that the Holy Spirit will return you to the truth of God's sovereignty, justice, and righteousness, as John Calvin correctly explained.

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 19 дней назад

      @@ryleighloughty3307 ryleighloughty3307 what’s your proof? You’re definitely deceived. Confidence in a supposed “ election” will get you eternity away from heaven. You’re definitely not elect to salvation Ryleigh. Glad I could break it to you. Turn to Jesus The Messiah, if your e willing.

  • @ryleighloughty3307
    @ryleighloughty3307 Месяц назад

    Calvinism is biblical.

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 19 дней назад

      Calvinism, Straight from the Satan.

    • @ryleighloughty3307
      @ryleighloughty3307 19 дней назад

      @@truthseeker5698 Do you think that sinful humans can effect their salvation?

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 19 дней назад

      @@ryleighloughty3307 Do you think you’re elect ? If so, Evaneacent grace in your case!

    • @ryleighloughty3307
      @ryleighloughty3307 19 дней назад

      @@truthseeker5698 Yes. Before time began, God, in his unfathomable mercy and grace, and with no input from me, elected to save me.

    • @truthseeker5698
      @truthseeker5698 19 дней назад

      @@ryleighloughty3307 what’s your proof? You’re definitely deceived. Confidence in a supposed “ election” will get you eternity away from heaven. You’re definitely not elect to salvation Ryleigh. Glad I could break it to you. Turn to Jesus The Messiah, if your e willing.

  • @JohnCamara7dominion7
    @JohnCamara7dominion7 Месяц назад

    I have a question for you... Can something come from nothing? I'm not asking you whether God can create something from nothing. He can. So that's not what I'm asking you. Aside from God's creative power, can something come into existence from nothing?

  • @RonaldMillsaps-d5c
    @RonaldMillsaps-d5c Месяц назад

    Be reverent. This disgusting video.is not.

  • @ButItSays
    @ButItSays Месяц назад

    Thank you for sharing your story. It gives me hope for all my family and friends who have fallen prey to it. My heart goes out to you as you look for a church. We live in the Calvinist epicenter, and there is not one (among hundreds) that doesn’t have some form of these Roman Catholic doctrines. Frankly, that’s why I started a podcast - for people to learn to approach the Bible without any systematic, letting the Bible define and explain itself. It’s been so eye-opening for me, and I want others to find that joy in God and His word. Best wishes.

  • @sierragrey7910
    @sierragrey7910 8 месяцев назад

    I’m new to the conversation but went back and listened to one of your earlier videos. From what I gathered, you had no peace when you were under Piper’s teaching, I can understand that as I don’t think Piper rightly understands justification, I am a confessionally-Reformed Protestant who had the opposite experience-it was Reformed soteriology and finally grasping the distinction between gospel and law that gave me assurance and peace. I appreciate your sincere efforts to understand scripture even if I don’t agree with your exegesis of John 6. I can’t see how you arrive at your interpretation of John 6:44-45 applying to a subset of Jews that were present as the text does not indicate that, in my opinion. I encourage you to keep searching and praying through the scriptures.

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for taking the time to make this, responding on the same day, no less. I'm not here to argue for my position; I was just curious what you meant. If I understand correctly, these steps you've developed are akin to a theological statement on salvation that you've compiled, drawn from your understanding of Scripture. Your gaming community outreach sounds very interesting. Paul found a way to relate to people of disparate cultural backgrounds. This is an example worth emulating.

  • @shakazulu365
    @shakazulu365 8 месяцев назад

    John 6;45 explains John 6;44, those faithful Jews that had listened to the prophets and were following the word in spirit and truth by faith would naturally see Jesus' miracles, hear His teachings and follow Him.

  • @RevReads
    @RevReads 8 месяцев назад

    fix your thumbnail brother!

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    What do you mean by Step 3? What are Steps 1-3? Are there more steps? Where are these steps in Scripture?

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    You said that you believe the Old Testament saints have been glorified. Be careful not to create a contradiction with other passages. 1 Corinthians 15 talks about the resurrection, both of Christ and of the saints. Christ, the firstborn among us, is risen. But since the last trumpet has not yet sounded, this indicates that the saints who have died are not yet glorified. All of the bodies of the Old Testament saints have been sown into corruption. At the last trumpet, they shall be raised to incorruption, which is glorification, the adoption, the redemption of our bodies, for which we eagerly await. There is harmony in Romans 8 and 1 Corinthians 15 on this, not contradiction. So, now what? That leaves us with seeing Romans 8:30 as a certainty we can look forward to, and that is why it is in the past tense, for emphasis.

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    Just so I understand, you're saying that because Paul didn't write "from before the foundation of the world", the phrase "those whom He foreknew" can't refer to a time before "those who love God"?

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    5:41 & 19:23. What are Steps 1-3? How did you determine what the steps are?

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    7:14 You start talking about steps. It's not clear what you mean by saying John 6 "is actually Step 3." How did you determine this? What are Steps 1-3? Are there more steps?

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    When did God choose us?

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 10 месяцев назад

    I’m not sure what you mean by saying John 6 is step three.

  • @Soonerguy2820
    @Soonerguy2820 11 месяцев назад

    Really appreciate your spirit in this. Also wanted to ask what study software do you use here?

  • @ChristtheKingdotnet
    @ChristtheKingdotnet 11 месяцев назад

    Most of my non-Calvinist brethren and peers really don't know why Paul quotes from Malachi regarding the twins. They think they know but they don't. Their idea that Paul decided to tell us that Jesus was born from Israel and not Edom -- right smack in the middle of explaining why national Israel missed righteousness by thinking it was by the law while individual Gentiles and a remnant of individual Jews attained unto righteousness by faith-- completely misses his entire point. The truth is both obvious but obscure. Esau is Israel in type...the one who despises the birthright and gives it up. Esau was the firstborn as was Israel (ex 4 22). Jacob is Jesus in type...the one who "overcomes" and "supplants" the firstborn.....the "only begotten" to whom the seed was promised to in the first place. Paul's entire point is that Israel missed righteousness as a nation because the Messiah would change everything; the Covenant and the promise while making it all about faith instead of nationality and ethnicity. " But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called." Rom 9:6-7 NKJV Just like Ishmael and Isaac were the "two covenants"....so were Esau and Jacob. The two nations that were in Rebekah's womb, prophetically, were Israel and the Church. "But you (the Church) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy NATION His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light" 1Pe 2:9 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you (Israel) and given to a NATION (The Church) bearing the fruits of it" Mat 21:43 "But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: "I will provoke you to jealousy by those who are not a nation, I will move you to anger by a foolish NATION" (the Church) Rom 10:19 It seems certain forms of Dispensationalism have created blinders over the minds of believers. Jesus took the place of Israel as the light to the Gentiles, the true vine, the only begotten Son-- and only those who believe in Him are saved. That is Paul's point not just in Romans but all of his letters.

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 11 месяцев назад

      Do you know @theromans9guy?

    • @contemplate-Matt.G
      @contemplate-Matt.G 11 месяцев назад

      @@gracemercywrath8767 Hi, This is Mathew. Yes, I spoke with Bob for over an hour after I saw him interviewed by Kevin of beyond the fundamentals. We agree to a certain degree however, I develop the idea that the two nations in Rebekah's womb were Israel and the Church in much more depth in a recently published work entitled Jacob and Esau Two Nations and the Inheritance.

    • @contemplate-Matt.G
      @contemplate-Matt.G 11 месяцев назад

      I used my other account to post because YT kept deleting it

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 11 месяцев назад

    10:43 Who is Peter talking to in 2 Peter 3:9? He's speaking to believers. The context of chapter 3:1-13 is the return of Christ and judgment. In verse 7, Peter writes about the destruction of the ungodly, meaning that there are people who will, in fact, perish in God's judgment. If we already know that some people will perish, then does the "all" in verse 9 actually refer to all people who ever have existed and who ever will exist, throughout all of time, prior to Christ's return? Or, does "all" have a context, limited by the sentence it is contained in? This is just something for you to think about.

  • @sheilasmith7779
    @sheilasmith7779 11 месяцев назад

    Constantly White presents false statements about others. We don't believe what White presents. He repeats these statements or positions constantly, even though he has been corrected. Since he is not stupid, it can only be viewed as lies.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Год назад

    Looking for the source video, so many don't believe this is real.

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 Год назад

      I think it is in the description of my main video on my channel.

    • @adrianpilbrow
      @adrianpilbrow Год назад

      It is a real Chinese psyop campaign.

  • @truthseeker5698
    @truthseeker5698 Год назад

    Calvinism reformed theology are sustained by a deception unlike any other work of the satan.

  • @Elmarias777
    @Elmarias777 Год назад

    I am at a similar point. Searching for another church because when I hear those key words, those hidden meanings, i get a frustration and sickening feeling in my gut because I hear these nonbiblical descriptions of God. If I, or anyone, ascribes to God something that He is not, is it not blaspheming? It paints God as a pagan god of old, where the natural mans religion has either gods of chaotic manness, or deterministic all controlling god of no freedom or love.

  • @billyrobertsonguitar
    @billyrobertsonguitar Год назад

    @gracemercywrath8767 thank you for your efforts and videos! Right now I am watching and trying to learn how to properly understand scripture with inductive study. I had not realized how many preachers/teachers I have heard in the past that had such a bent toward Calvinism. I am trying to learn enough to be on guard for those who interpret through certain lenses.

  • @sapphyrarose
    @sapphyrarose Год назад

    Someone pick her

  • @Apollos2.2
    @Apollos2.2 Год назад

    Brother thanks for breaking it down into "digestable" pieces. There are plent of videos that deep dive into the tooic. But this one is definitely sharable!

  • @AM-6030
    @AM-6030 Год назад

    I just found your channel. I'm looking forward to seeing your content!

  • @Dinosaursof
    @Dinosaursof Год назад

    Big brain!

  • @Bibliotechno
    @Bibliotechno Год назад

    The Bible says about Lydia. "The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message". So, 'Who opened her heart???'. Think about it

    • @tbuitendyk
      @tbuitendyk 6 дней назад

      That the Lord opened her heart is not in question. What is in question is your ASSUMPTION that her having already feared God and respected his word of her own free will COULDN'T POSSIBLY be a factor. Luke 8:18 KJV Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. Think about it.

  • @shakazulu365
    @shakazulu365 Год назад

    I agree with the video, but the graphics and spelling are poor. Redo the graphics.

  • @TheMaineSurveyor
    @TheMaineSurveyor Год назад

    The corporate election model as presented makes no sense. You’re saying God chooses to give us the benefits of being in Christ that we already have because we are in Christ. In John 6, Jesus promises that anyone who believes in Him will be raised up at the Last Day. This is the end goal of being in Christ and it’s already promised to anyone who believes. But you are saying once we believe, God then chooses us to receive what has already been promised that we would receive. Pardon the analogy, but it’s like this: a husband and wife get married, and after the ceremony, the husband says, “I choose you to be my bride.” She already is his bride. It makes no sense now to tell her that, now they are married, he chooses her be his bride. It’s like that with being the bride of Christ. Now that we are the bride of Christ, it doesn’t make sense for God to tell us that He chooses to make us the bride of Christ. It additionally doesn’t make sense because of this: When did the choosing happen? Before the foundation of the world. Whether you want to argue corporate or individual election, you must deal with timing of the choice: before the foundation of the world. You also must consider that Paul was writing to people he knew. The could read his letter and think, “I was chosen before the foundation of the world to receive these blessings.” The receipt of the blessings is after faith in Christ, obviously, but God knew exactly who would receive those blessings upon faith. He chose those people-us in Him-before the foundation of the world. If we force Ephesians 1 to mean what you say, we introduce a contradiction with 2 Thessalonians 2, wherein Paul plainly tells the believers at Thessalonica that “God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.” What were they chosen for? Salvation. When we’re they chosen? From the beginning. This plan reading of 2 Thessalonians 2 fits nicely with a plain reading of Ephesians 1. No contradiction. But to get to what you present here, we have to contort plainly written words in a way that doesn’t present itself in just a normal, plain reading.

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/GYNXeZiDd_c/видео.html

    • @Bibliotechno
      @Bibliotechno Год назад

      The Bible says about Lydia. "The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message". So, 'Who opened her heart???'. Think about it

    • @TheMaineSurveyor
      @TheMaineSurveyor Год назад

      @@gracemercywrath8767 Thank you for the reply. I'm sure your time is limited, and I appreciate the response. I've watched both that video and Leighton's other video called "Ephesians 1 De-Calvinized." In the De-Calvinized video, he takes the same or similar approach you do here, which I find defies a plain reading. He does a word-swap in that video, taking "to be holy and blameless" and turns it into "to _become_ holy and blameless." That's problematic on its own. But his airplane analogy totally fails in that video. It makes no sense for us to be chosen to be on an airplane we've already been seated on. For God to say, "Now that you're here, I choose you to be here," makes the choosing completely moot. In the very recent video you linked, however, we get closer to the root of Leighton's belief. He told us about a chest of drawers passed down to the oldest daughter, which has finally come to his wife. When her ancestor determined that the chest should go to each oldest daughter, he had no idea that Leighton's wife would some day possess it. Leighton and his guest in the video both agreed this illustration perfectly fit their position. And that's the problem. Before the foundation of the world, God knew exactly who would be in Christ. We can't make Him ignorant of this. Sure, we didn't exist yet, but He already knows all things. Psalm 147:5 _Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite._ Romans 11:33 _Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!_ 1 John 3:20 _For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things._ I don't expect to change your mind in all of this. I'm simply telling you why I think your position doesn't make sense, and contorts the plain meaning of the text. Is there a reason you don't want God to choose you--you personally, as an individual--before the foundation of the world? The plain reading of Ephesians says that He has. Why would you need to impose a strange interpretation to make it so God had no clue you would exist one day, and also one day be a believer in Him?

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 Год назад

      @@TheMaineSurveyor Thank you for your response. I would also recommend Great Light Studio and his “in Christ” series. The interesting thing is when I was a Calvinist I would of said everything your saying here. Once I saw the argument from the other side I believe it is the clearer reading of the text. I have a video going verse by verse through John 6 with Dr. Williams I would also recommend. I'll believe what you said about Dr. Flowers miss speaking but I disagree that it changes his argument. My question is does in bother you that Dr. Piper adds “us to be in Christ” when it says “us in Christ”?

    • @TheMaineSurveyor
      @TheMaineSurveyor Год назад

      @@gracemercywrath8767 Thanks. I've become acquainted with his work. I have a couple of lengthy comments and one brief comment under his video entitled "A Critical Error in Calvinism - Have the Elect ALWAYS Been In Christ? - Part 1." Suffice to say, if we go with the reading you, Leighton, and Jordan prefer--which I believe is not plain in the words themselves--we immediately contradict 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14, which speaks to the same subject: being chosen by God. If our understanding of a passage creates a contradiction with another plainly-written passage, our understanding must be incorrect. But if we stick with the plain meaning of Ephesians 1:4, we are in agreement with the plain meaning of 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14. If we force the words to say something other than what they plainly say, and if we place an assumption on the text that God has no idea who will be in Christ in the future, then we can get to the meaning you propose here. I can't do that. Scripture plainly testifies that God knows all things, without exception. This is blunt, for sure, but I can't think of another way to say it and maintain clarity. I certainly don't intend any disrespect towards you by these words. I believe you are sincere. I simply disagree with the position you've taken, just as I believe you sincerely disagree with me. That being said, I hope this comment finds you well. May the Lord richly bless you in all that you do in His name.

  • @a.k.7840
    @a.k.7840 Год назад

    Very well done! 👏👏

  • @rosschenault4227
    @rosschenault4227 Год назад

    You did a good job describing the two views in terms of one view says there’s the opportunity for all to believe. And the other view (Calvinist) only those God elected. But that doesn’t answer the question of interpreting Romans 9. This is a question of hermeneutics and exegesis of what is put forth in the passage; and what the intent of the author is. It’s not Individual election. It’s about God choosing Israel and then Gentiles - and that the Jews should not boast or question God. It’s about service not salvation for Individuals for all time. “The elder shall serve the younger”. It’s not about heaven and hell. The way I respond to the ridiculous claim by Calvinists who respond by saying nations are made up of individuals- is with that line of thinking NOTHING could ever be said to be corporate since the entire world is made up of individuals. It’s a silly rebuttal.

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 Год назад

      This is a playlist from Dr. Williams you might enjoy. ruclips.net/p/PLGkNjgD16fYZvTztK2B4E2g0iRZXYbRA- if this link does not work look for my video Williams verses Piper. Thank you for your comment!

  • @cjphillips90
    @cjphillips90 Год назад

    Thank you for the video. Commenting for the Algorithm.

  • @a.k.7840
    @a.k.7840 Год назад

    The group is elected by dint of being in the Elect One Jesus.

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 Год назад

    We're just simply not accustomed to this kind of thinking. I was HIGHLY resistant to ir because so many NT passages get explained to us theoughout childhood, in an individual way. Trying to really put on yoirvcorporate lenses is... just hard. But once I could see it i can't unsee it and its OBVIOUSLY what Paul is talking about.

    • @de629
      @de629 Год назад

      I would invite you to meditate upon this from Paul "And the life I now live in the flesh I love by faith in the Son of God, WHO LOVED ME AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME" That is an understanding of particular redemption. Don't be deceived by the Anti-Calvinists

    • @Elmarias777
      @Elmarias777 Год назад

      ​@de629 so God ONLY loved Paul and gave himself up for just Paul? Paul can say that because He knows God loved everyone so much that He gave Himself up as a randsom for them so that they might become children of God. Jesus paid for the sins of the world. Not ours (believers) only, but the sins of the whole world.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 Год назад

      @@de629 is Paul a human? Was Paul in "The World"? At the time he wrote that, was Paul "in Christ"? Then there's no conflict in the passage. It doesn't make your case.

  • @roddyk2655
    @roddyk2655 Год назад

    It's fairly simple in my opinion, God has elected a certain group to service, it's up to the individual to decide if he wants to be part of the group or not, but there can't be corporate election if God is irresistibly gracing people as the means of "election"... so, Calvinists will have to suspend belief in Irresistible grace in order to be able to consider corporate election...

    • @gracemercywrath8767
      @gracemercywrath8767 Год назад

      Are you on Twitter?

    • @de629
      @de629 Год назад

      You have been deceived about Election, it could be to Service or a Nation, but words are defined in therr context. People are Elected..

    • @Bibliotechno
      @Bibliotechno Год назад

      Everyone who is saved, is saved to serve. In fact faith without works is dead.

    • @Bibliotechno
      @Bibliotechno Год назад

      The Bible says about Lydia. "The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message". So, 'Who opened her heart???'. Think about it

    • @roddyk2655
      @roddyk2655 Год назад

      @@Bibliotechno No, you think about it.. and think about this.. *"Romans 10:13-17 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."* Lydia's heart was opened by God through the means of Paul preaching the Word... think for yourself and get your head out of Calvinist garbage.

  • @de629
    @de629 Год назад

    You're missing an ingredient, that is unless you hold to Open Theism. If God knows infallibly, before creation who will and will not believe, then all the people don't truly have an opportunity. This whether or not you hold to Corporate election...