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Missile Twenty Nine
Добавлен 17 окт 2020
Life-long aviation enthusiast, Private Pilot, first-time builder.
Building a Van’s RV-10 in my basement.
Van’s build number 42208.
Building a Van’s RV-10 in my basement.
Van’s build number 42208.
RV 10 Build Log Emp 52 - Rear spar... Finishing the Horizontal Stabilizer!
Finishing the RV-10 horizontal stabilizer, including riveting the rear spar to the inspar ribs and skins.
RV-10 Manual: Page 8-13, Steps 6-7
Work Dates:
2022-06-25
2022-06-26
RV-10 Manual: Page 8-13, Steps 6-7
Work Dates:
2022-06-25
2022-06-26
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 51 - Attaching the horizontal stabilizer skins to the ribs
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 51 - Attaching the horizontal stabilizer skins to the ribs Riveting the horizontal stabilizer to the rest of the inspar ribs - the last steps before I can close the stab up with the rear spar. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-13, Steps 5-7 Work Dates: 2022-06-19 2022-06-25 2022-06-26
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 50 - Tackling the rivets under the stringers.
Просмотров 9642 года назад
Here I rivet the skins to the horizontal stabilizer front spars, then to the inboard inspar-ribs in front of the stringers, then to the stringers themselves. This is one of the steps I've been dreading on the HS, and what I hope will be the only (or last) tricky step before just plowing through a ton of rivets to finish the stab. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-13, Steps 2-4 Work Dates: 2022-03-19 2022-03...
RV-10 Build Log - Wing 01 - Uncrating the Wing Kit!
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Bringing home, uncrating, inspecting, and inventorying the wing kit. Work Dates: 03-29-2022, 03-30-2022 Receiving and Uncrating 04-23-2022, 04-24-2022 Inspecting and Inventorying
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 49 - New Cradles, New Squeezer, Tricky Rivets
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Assembling the nose ribs into the Horizontal Stabilizer skin halves, then joining the two halves with the front spar and sub-structure. I also talk about a trick for holding parts together while riveting using fuel tubing, and how I dealt with a few rivets in unlikely tight spots with a new tool. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-12, Steps 1-2 Page 8-13, Step 1 Work Dates: 02-26-2022 02-27-2022 03-12-2022
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 48 - Assembling the Horizontal Stab Skeleton
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Starting the final assembly of the horizontal stabilizer. In this video I rivet together the parts that make up the stringer/web subassembly, and then rivet this, as well as most of the inspar ribs to the horizontal stabilizer front spar. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-10, Steps 1-2 Page 8-11, Steps 1-3 Work Dates: 02-06-2022 02-17-2022 02-21-2022
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 47 - Quick update, priming frames
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Update on how the replacement stringers worked out, and talking about the frames I threw together to hold parts during priming. Reference to article in EAA magazine regarding the frames: EAA Sport Pilot, April, 2021, Shop Talk column, Pg 96 . RV-10 Manual: Page 8-9, Step 10 Work Dates: 01-15-2022 01-17-2022 01-29-2022
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 46 - Stringer fix options
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Quick follow-up to talk about options for fixing the messed up holes on the ends of the HS long stringers.
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 45 - Hard lesson countersinking the HS Stringers and Spars
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Countersinking the horizontal stabilizer stringers and spar flanges, 596 holes in all. Starting on the stringers, I learn the hard way that I need to do a much better job of supporting the parts, and that my choice of drill and countersink cutter wasn’t the best. By the end I finally arrive at a process that gives consistent results. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-9, Step 8 Work Dates: 10-30-2021 11-07-2...
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 44 - Dimpling the Horizontal Stabilizer
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.2 года назад
In this video we dimple all the parts of the horizontal stabilizer. I use the pneumatic squeezer and the C-frame for the skins, and the squeezer for the substructure parts. We also show the use of the “Close Quarters” dimple die set for those hard to reach few holes tucked up in the leading edge skins. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-9, Step 7 Work Dates: 10-02-2021 10-03-2021 10-16-2021
RV 10 Build Log - Requested Deburring Tip
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Viewer requested more detailed video showing how to make the notch deburring "tool." Hope this helps!
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 43 - Drilling, Disassembling, and and Deburring the Horizontal Stab
Просмотров 7293 года назад
Now that the horizontal stabilizer is completely assembled, it’s time to … take it back apart. First I match drill the stringer web and all the holes in the skins, then take the whole thing back apart and deburr, deburr, deburr… RV-10 Manual: Page 8-9, Steps 3-6 Work Dates: 9-5-2021 9-19-2021 10-2-2021
RV 10 Build Log - Easiest way to Deburr the Notches Between Rib Flanges
Просмотров 2,2 тыс.3 года назад
I hate trying to deburr the little notches between the flanges on the ribs. It's too tight to get in there with most of the normal tools, and putting a gouge or nick in there is exactly what you DON'T want. That would create a stress riser, and that's what we're trying to avoid by deburring in the first place. While there are some good tips and tricks out there already, I think I came up with m...
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 42 - Tons of progress on the Stabilizer
Просмотров 1 тыс.3 года назад
Finally back at it! Among other things, assembled the skeleton into the skins, testing out the cradles I made a few weeks ago. Pros and cons of the “flexible” cradles, and lessons learned trying to get the nose ribs in. And a sneak peek at a deburring tool tip. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-8, Steps 3-8 Page 8-9, Steps 1-2 Work Dates: 8-28-2021 8-29-2021
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 41 - Making cradles for the horizontal stabilizer
Просмотров 5033 года назад
Decided to diverge from the plans a little on the cradles for the Horizontal Stabilizer. RV-10 Manual: Page 8-7, Step 5 Work Date: 7-24-2021
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 40 - Plans don’t match the parts!
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 40 - Plans don’t match the parts!
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 39 - Fluting the Flanges
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 39 - Fluting the Flanges
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 38 - Cutting up some perfectly good ribs
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 38 - Cutting up some perfectly good ribs
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 37 - Going back and riveting the spars
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 37 - Going back and riveting the spars
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 36 - I Don’t Wanna Crooked Tail!
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 36 - I Don’t Wanna Crooked Tail!
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 35 - Cutting the Horizontal Stabilizer Spar Caps and Stringers
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 35 - Cutting the Horizontal Stabilizer Spar Caps and Stringers
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 34 - Fabricating the stabilizer attachment bracket
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 34 - Fabricating the stabilizer attachment bracket
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 33 - Elevator Inboard Hinge Bracket
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 33 - Elevator Inboard Hinge Bracket
RV 10 - Practice Kits, Trim Bundles, and Scrap
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RV 10 - Practice Kits, Trim Bundles, and Scrap
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 32 - Starting the Horizontal Stabilizer
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 32 - Starting the Horizontal Stabilizer
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 31 - Completed the rudder!
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 31 - Completed the rudder!
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 30 - Bending the rudder leading wedge
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 30 - Bending the rudder leading wedge
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 29 - Finally riveted the trailing edge!
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 29 - Finally riveted the trailing edge!
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 28 - Riveted rudder spar, bottom rib, horn, striker plates, counterbalance rib
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 28 - Riveted rudder spar, bottom rib, horn, striker plates, counterbalance rib
RV-10 Build Log - Emp 27 - Tank seal and riveting rudder halves
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RV-10 Build Log - Emp 27 - Tank seal and riveting rudder halves
Just wondered why you chose to go with 2:1 instead of 1.5:1.
this piece is pissing me off.
i think you underestimate how many people WOULD stand to watch your videos. Short or Long. Chapters are appreciated of course for the longer ones. ;-) They are very helpful.
I really appreciated your videos when I started my build, really great insights in each video. Curious, are you still building and not videoing, or did you abandon your build? Hope you’re doing well!
Ha, I’ve used that main squeeze to build everything so far….
For what it's worth, I've gotten the most value out of your RV-10 build vids along my journey and hope you continue to publish... I watch your vids closely as I'm going into each step and heed your advice and ideas as needed. Thank you for what you've done here, and hope to see more soon.... good luck with the rest of the build!
OOO WOW.... WERE COMING UP ON 2 YEARS WITH NO VID... ARE YOU STILL DOING IT
ITS BEEN A YEAR.... WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THE NEXT VID?
"GET TO IT" that should be your CATCH PHRAZE
thought for sure those nose ribs would come up in this vid.....
I am also working on the vertical stab and I could not see how the rubber ring helps. It was more of a hindrance to me than anything! 100% agree
Great channel sir. Im about to put the -10 rudder together here. Did you use a 2x or 3x? I have only an ATS 3x but I feel comfortable with it on the -3'
I don't know if i would have thought to count on a piece of paper and then poured it in the bag.... I would have probably dropped a few as i handled them wrong LOL great videos as always.
We usually were careful to start in the middle of things and work our way out. Almost like spreading a sticker. The fwd spar is already locked down I don’t think it will “walk” any direction for the small area that’s being riveted . Great work !!
😂😂 we all need a big ass bag of bacon bits !!! Love your humor and these videos !
I thought I remember which ever view you are looking at in the drawing fwd or back , the shop head should be there the view you are seeing. The direction of the head does take into account if it’s a tension or shear head and for that load that is accounted for.
looks great and it may seem like a mind numbing task but its a huge task to undertake that whole process.
if you only know how many holes i've had to go back and step up or actually drill . Great progress!
Love the expression of huh.... surprising yourself is a nice surprise when our work turns out better than we thought it would. . The suicide bit we tended to use when a micro stop wont fit, knowing were crazy and could really kill the part with a bad countersink :)
That sealant will stay in your hair for weeks :) Sheetmetal mechanic for 25 years and its strong stuff also when it sets. .
Still enjoying the build :) Thanks for doing this.
looks great !!! great to see the skill becoming better! Having done limited GA sheet metal Things look great! 26 years of Commercial sheet metal here, plus the thin stuff for me is around .032 :)
I've watched two other builders and was wanting to explain exactly what you did helping align things to them. Thanks for sharing that with folks :) Glad you have a helper lol.
Love the humility, knowing about the spray guns i did wonder if that was the issue. Hopefully to build one soon :) Thanks for sharing your info.
Great Videos! i appreciate how you even mention for some that may not know the light reflection issues. Also I love the fluted reamers. More cutting points make a much better hole. I've done Commercial aviation for 26 years and a lot of it Sheetmetal. GA uses such thinner skin. I am hopeful to build a 10 once the things settle down with Vans.
A&P mechanic here and worked heavily in the Sheetmetal part. it will get better, love your concern and patience for the skill. Have subscribed and will be following.
Are you still building ? Havnt seen any videos in a while and was just wondering. I have just started my tail kit
How is the chapter 11 of VANs going to affect you guys?
Nice hack. Thanks for sharing this. I’m just starting my 14 empennage and was googling for some countersink help and came across your video. I just got back from HD with these steel supports and a sheet of 1/8 practice aluminum. This will make things a lot easier
Glad, hope it helps! Let me know if you come up with any other tricks. I still struggle to get the countersinks consistent and the perfect depth.
Like others here - I miss your videos but I understand how long it takes to edit the footage. Hope your build is going well! -Brian from central Oregon
Thanks! I'll admit I never realized how much time and work people put into the video part of their videos. Gives me new respect for some of the other channels I watch. Hope to post more soon.
@@missiletwentynine2667 I want to steal more of your build ideas :-)
Would you recommend a quick build kit for the wings? Trying to decide whether I want someone else doing all this for me and not knowing what was done….
Oh, that's a tough one. I've got to believe that Van's knows what they're doing, and the quick-build quality would be top notch. And I've heard other builders say the wings are a lot of repetitive work, so quick build wings could eliminate some of the less interesting work. I guess it just depends on whether you want to build or fly more. I personally want to be able to point at this thing when I'm done and say, "I built the whole thing." ... even if it takes the rest of my life (LOL).
Are you still building? Haven’t seen a video in awhile?
Yep, still building and still filming, just haven't edited together the raw footage into an upload in a long time. Currently have a stockpile of elevator footage I need to edit and post. Hope to start catching up on it soon.
Can you explain how you use Boelube?
The stuff I use most on the plane is kindof a waxy paste. I usually just stick the end of the drill bit or reamer into it and spin the drill for a second to get a little on the tip. It melts a little when the bit warms up with use and provides a little lube. It seems to prolong the life of the bit somewhat, but to be honest, it's probably much more important if drilling steel. I tend to be more careful about using it when drilling harder parts like hinge brackets and such.
@@missiletwentynine2667 Thanks for the reply. Using it for thicker material makes sense.
Your videos have been so helpful as I prepare for my -14A build. You are a natural teacher. I know how much work is involved in shooting and editing video and I appreciate you taking the time to do this and share with the rest of us here on YT.
Thanks very much for the kind words! I'm don't consider myself very skilled with shooting or editing the videos themselves, so it's good to know they're helpful. Hope to get back to editing a backlog of footage I have soon.
Believe it or not, this "boring" video was a help to me- like so many of your others have been. I picked up my RV-14A wing kit at the factory (we live in Central Oregon) two weeks ago. I wasn't going to open the crates and inventory the parts because I plan to start on the empennage first but it's not available yet. I didn't want wing kit parts taking up shelf space in my hangar for a year while I'm working on the other kit. I had a sneaking hunch that Van's would probably require that we inventory the kit within some time frame but I was sticking my head in the sand. You confirmed there is in fact a deadline to do the inventory in 30 days. Sigh...so much easier to just leave them in the crates. Maybe I'll buy a couple more shelves. Anyway, thanks again for sharing your build.
I know exactly what you mean. I have limited shelf space, too, and I didn't want wing parts mixing into the empennage parts before I needed them. Plus it's kindof satisfying to see the shelves of tail parts get more and more bare. I packed a lot of the wing parts loosely back into the crates to keep them safe while I finish the empennage.
Another very helpful video. Did you get the 1/4" or 3/16" Harbor Freight pneumatic blind rivet tool?
Mine is the 3/16"
@@missiletwentynine2667 Thanks. I grabbed the only one they had (1/4") and had a feeling it would be too large. I'll see if I can get the 3/16" model.
Another great video. I learn something important in just about every one of your videos. Thanks so much for sharing them.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
You do some great work. Great attention to detail. You're giving me a lot of good ideas for my -14A build. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome, thank you! Do you plan to post videos of your build? Love to see it!
@@missiletwentynine2667 As tempted as I am to document my build here, I know enough about shooting and editing video to know it would greatly extend my build timeline. Plus, you wouldn't learn anything from me. Your skills are on another level from mine :-)
Skills? I have no skills ;-) Seriously, I'm making this up as I go along, so don't sell yourself short. You'll pick things up very quickly and one of the great things about this community is that everyone has something to offer.
Great idea. I'm learning a lot from your videos. Do you find 400 grit sandpaper works best?
Thanks! For this, yes, I'd say 400 is a good compromise.
I'm starting a -14A build soon. What pressure are you using at the rivet gun and how far closed do you have your air flow regulator? Your videos are very helpful!
Hi, thanks for the comments and good luck on the -14A build! I pretty much left my compressor cranked all the way up (at least 90-100 PSI and perhaps a little more) and then adjusted the flow limiter to just "what seemed right" for the given rivet size or situation. But a caveat to this setup is that my compressor is up in my garage, and I have a 100' hose between it and the manifold in the basement, before I even get to the smaller 10' hoses. I've recently added a regulator in the basement (after the long hose) and I dial it up or down instead. I'm still learning the best pressures for different tasks myself, so be sure to pass on what you learn in your build!
@@missiletwentynine2667 What I learned building the practice kit (and with Cleaveland Tools recommendation) is to keep the air compressor at 90psi at all times then regulate pressure at the tool. I tried regulating it at the air compressor but spent too much time changing it when I changed tools. It was easier for me to adjust the air flow regulator at the tool. It seems a little more precise as well. I'm going to add the Cleaveland Tools air hose manifold to my work bench area so I don't need to change hoses. Thanks so much for the reply! I follow a couple dozen RV builders and your attention to detail and concern for quality is most similar to how I work. The big difference is you actually have the skills to pull it off and share your creative ideas here. Very, very helpful to a new builder like me!
Hi Missile Twenty Nine, wondering where you have gone? Love your videos, you are helping me through my own RV10 build!
Hi Dean - I'm still here. Midway through the elevators, but waayyy behind on video creation at the moment. How's your project coming?
That’s great to hear, glad you are progressing! I appreciate your commentary, it gives me good insight into each next step. I’ve completed the vertical stabilizer and am now onto the rudder; working on the stiffness this weekend, lots of cutting and deburring! I love the meticulous nature of the work. Look forward to seeing your next round of videos!
Missing your videos
@@gordonbuss1476 yeah, sorry about that. Life gets busy, and I'm a terribly slow video editor. I'll be back ;-)
I saw you answered a question regarding whether or not you are still building. We are happy to hear you are. I’m sure it’s a ton of work to post videos. Looking forward to them whenever you can!
Thanks for the feedback, and I'm definitely hoping to get around to posting some more videos soon. I've got a huge backlog of raw footage, just need to find some time to do some editing🙂
@@missiletwentynine2667 you are more ambitious than we are. We are just keeping a written log and even that is way behind🤣
@@annearmstrong2275 I've also been using the EAA online builders log. It's a good way to keep a written log with pictures and such.
@@missiletwentynine2667 Thank you. We looked at that too and may go that route
I used a bandsaw for the cuts of the flange and web. Cutting the flange vertically with the rib laying flat on the bandsaw table worked great; just go carefully and slowly.
Yep, I've done some cuts both ways and as you said, as long as you go slowly and carefully it works great. I'm sure I'll find a situation where only snips will do, but so far I prefer the band saw over the snips every time. Thanks for watching!
Awesome videos, you have just the right amount of detail and are very informative. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, nice to hear! Hope to be posting some elevator videos soon!
Good videos. Keep up the good work. You mentioned a foot pedal switch for your squeezer. Can you provide more information. Who makes it? Where did you buy it? Pros and cons? Would you recommend it?
Thanks! I bought the foot pedal from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools a while back, but unfortunately I don't see it on their site anymore. Definitely not a must-have accessory, but I do like it. It's especially nice if I need to hold several things at once, or hold things very still while triggering the squeezer. I looked at mine for a mfg and model. It says Linemaster Full Guard, CAT# 522-B14, and it's mad3 by Linemaster Switch Corporation, Woodstock CT. Hope that helps!
Are you still building?
Yes, still building. Working on the elevators now and have lots of raw footage, just haven't had time to put out a video in a while. Soon I hope.
I struggled greatly to get those ribs into the skin. It probably took like 2 hours to finally get everything to line up.
Yeah it was really a wrestling match. I hope you had a helper. Definitely better with two people.
I am finishing up my RV10 rudder this week. Your channel has been fantastic for filling in the gaps between the plans and reality. One question is with the amount of time you spend filing after cutting a piece a little long. Now that you are farther along in your build, is this still your method? Other builder videos seem to cut on the line and do less cleanup. I want to get it right but not create extra work for myself for marginal benefit.
Thanks for the comments and glad the videos are helpful. Honestly, I still tend to err on the side of more sanding and filing. But I suppose it depends on the part. Last night I cut the trailing edge wedge for my elevators and I cut WAY outside the line then filed to fit for that. But part of the deal there was that the full length wedge wouldn't fit in the band saw so I had to cut by hand with a hack saw. The 1" belt sander makes pretty quick work of the aluminum so grinding / filing / sanding to final shape on a part like that doesn't really add much time or effort. But I'm probably also just a klutz with the saw ;-)
Continue to love your videos. We are still in the process of setting up our workshop, so we are aways from starting the build, but I love seeing what the process will look like. Would you mind indicating if there are particular forums/build logs/resources you find most useful when you need help with something, or need a work around? There is so much good information out there, I hardly know where to start.
There are probably tons out there for RVs but the one I've used the most is vansairforce.net I've also learned a lot watching youtube videos put out by cleaveland tools, which you can find links to from their main site www.cleavelandtool.com. (Not a sponsor ;-) but I've bought a lot of tools from them and they're very nice people.)
For radiusing the front of the rib -- thanks for pointing out the diagram in section 8! Do you only radius off the bottom corner of the flange where it meets the web or do you continue it all the way through the flange, effectively shortening the length of the flange?
Hmm, good question, and I'm trying to remember... The farther out from the web you get, the more the flange can flex, and so it isn't really an issue. That said, I didn't want to end up with a deep notch, or remove too much material and get close to that forwardmost rivet hole. So I guess the answer is - a little of both? I actually went looking for a decent picture but couldn't find one. Sorry.
@@missiletwentynine2667 Yeah that makes sense thanks! I'll probably just angle off the corner like the plans show on section 8.