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9:05 is it really harsh to say that if you suck at the game they don’t deserve to win 😅? Idk man I just the think the devs believe that they should baby a portion of the players and it’s screw anyone else who they don’t want to cater towards

I found 6v6 even more confusing, while Support is more boring (with the exception of Zen switching discord between tanks is pretty fun) as you can't really go for kills and you just healbot more since there's another tank to heal and protecting the enemy team, DPS is A LOT MORE FUN, I never knew I wanted to 1v1 a tank and win and honestly I didn't prefer 6v6 tanking over 5v5 as I really noticed how much more killable I was when I was getting 3 tapped by a Reaper, I think if there was a 6v6 mode I'd only go there to play DPS and Zen

If junk lab becomes a thing we will have no more competitive integrity, you will just have to hope to get lucky and the first team get better bonus win. Then sure let’s play with kiri with 3 explosive Kunai every game. I can’t understand how stupid can they be in not realising that is not the mode the problem the matchmaking is.

When will they add fov slider of console 😞

Not a fan of Drives they look ugly, I wish i could disable it but I'm interested in the potentially space themed skin, Paladins used to do that when you reached a certain mastery level on a character before they switched to the black and gold theme.

Japan & Egypt are clearly cursed in OW universe

Wow, I'm so glad they're doing 6v6 playtests!!! It's too bad I don't fucking remember a 5v5 playtest! This entire game and dev team is always one step forward, 5 steps back. Bumbling fools, insane that they're getting paid to run this game into the ground. I have zero faith that they can pull this game back from the brink, none whatsoever. Every time you have hope for this game and dev team, they make sure to shit on you extra hard as well as disappointing you, literally every single time. Too many broken (and empty) promises, 6 straight years of dogshit decisions, game design and game balance, surely they'll finally pull their heads out of their asses this time. Clueless

I am massively confused by the widowmaker hatred. I understand she's very strong in defensive positions, but there are two dps on your team and usually one of them can dedicate to jumping the widow and backline. I guess some characters get pushed out, but I would argue that (generally) a strat that fails to a good widowmaker is gonna fail to any good dps and vice versa.

they should remove the number "2" because what is the point of ow2 if they decided to return to 6v6?

Alright I'll actually throw hands over clash, it's the only gamemode in the game that is consistently fun for me. Fast steamrolls are a million times better than a slow steamroll, and the reason it's hard to tell where to go is because the ui glitches out a third of the time. God I hate robot push so much, but I don't care about the drama or nonsense, I just want blizzard to take the time to balance both 5v5 and 6v6. They have unique gameplay feel, Overwatch already has countermeasures against longer load times with the incredible workshop, and while it shouldn't be directly encouraged to increase them, splitting player pools isn't that crazy of a concept. 5v5 is better casual and 6v6 is so much more fun in a coordinated session. And please, don't spend money until things are actually steady again. There shouldn't be any reward until they comply with getting things like the workshop, clash, and robot push fixed. Overwatch 2 is meant to be a skill based game, almost entirely, don't go down the hole that killed the game the first time and make it anything else.

Great point. This endless 6v6 “testing” is performative. If the poor tests they run don’t get massive attention, they can say that 5v5 was the right way all along - and if they stick with that story, Overwatch is dead. Also, Clash is so much better in 6v6 - it actually feels OK there. The failing with clash is it doesn’t ever feel like attack or defence; it’s more like a moveable king of the hill. If they made it so the “defenders” can reliably pre-stage, then it might credibly feel like attack-defence. Talking about Hanamura and Anubis maps … they really should bring Horizon and Paris back as flashpoint maps. I don’t understand why the devs of OW are pretending that 5v5 isn’t a total failure. You can’t put all the stress onto one tank and give the offtank power to support - that makes support overpowered - it’s glaringly obvious. OW didn’t arrive at 2:2:2 by accident, it arrived there through trial and error, in a world of no-limits and then open-queue. They can say big changes are coming, but sticking with 5v5 is fighting Rivals with one hand tied behind their backs and they will not just lose slowly or hold their ground, they will lose fast.

Too little too late

Playing tank since the release of OW2 felt so bad, now I’m afraid is too late

would have been nice if they hadn’t loss some of the playerbase

Won’t fix the game or anything, but it would sure be nice if they started teasing a new character for next season… 😅

Prior to rivals totally would’ve hopped back in, but now??? NAH

No 6v6 core gameplay. Let's double down on the shitty 5v5. Fuck this dev team, I'm out.

They have the chances many years ago...Then Marvel Rivals suddenly shows up and dropped them hard then "Out of the blue they are suddenly going to do something ground breaking" 😂 fvcking blizzard clowns 🤡 Hope this cashgreed game dies Overwatch died the moment they call it Overwatch 2. See now they are bringing back some features that they already have on Overwatch 1, 6v6 what a joke..

They have the chances many years ago...Then Marvel Rivals suddenly shows up and dropped them hard then "Out of the blue they are suddenly going to do something ground breaking" 😂 fvcking blizzard clowns 🤡 Hope this cashgreed game dies Overwatch died the moment they call it Overwatch 2.

Im tired of them treating 6v6 like its an “experiment” or “test” when its a proven format that others and THEMSELVES have done for years. In my opinion the whole OW2 was just a long 5v5 test especially since they are “BRINGING BACK” 6v6. Idk maybe its just me but i think experiment and test should be reserved for things that havent been done yet 🤷🏾‍♂️

MR has a philsophy that is already falling apart. Lets be honest here, MR took exactly 0 time and effort to actually think through anything or be creative. They just copied OW1 completely. Its going down the same path OW1 did and is facing all the same problems. I dont think OW can be improved much with balancing. It needs changes that completely changes how the game is played as if it was an entirely different game. As you said it yourself perfectly, the game has already been figured out. That is its glass ceiling and they need to make changes that somehow avoid the game from ever being fully figured out. Its what makes CS playable forever and ever, that there is always this feeling of knowing exactly what you could have done better to win instead of lose.

I probably wont ever go back to OW unless they do several things: remove many of the new hero's (I dont like playing against or as them), bring back open queue( single hero limits are fine but I would rather not), Make all health pools less ( the old health pool), And nerf healing so damage means something! So thats probably not going to happen so Ill probably not play it. I know MR has a lot of healing and its almost too much so depending on how that goes we shall see how long that game lasts.

I know a lot of people don’t like 5v5 myself included but I think it does have a place in game. People like role q, but until there’s more tank characters the role q q times will get out of hand. Open q should be 6v6 and role q should be 5v5 with hero talents.

You’re 100% right about why the 6v6 comp is coming to midseason instead of the beginning. They’re still gathering player data so having 6v6 comp in immediately would sabotage the game. I’m glad they’re doing a comp season so fast tbh.

I’m actually fine with clash being in qp even tho I like it. It’s a quick mode so it belongs in qp.

Looking at the comments on OW videos is so lame. If yall don’t wanna wait it’s fine to go somewhere else. If you’re “done with OW” why are you still talking about it and watching content on it? It’s because yall want other people to feel the same. News flash most people don’t care lol. Most people just play the fucking game they like.

The Overwatch Boomer in me just wants Standard 6v6 (with 2-2-2) Im open to whatever Gameplay change they have, if its some kind of Perk System for the Standard game, im willing to try that But its kinda sad that the OW i have been trying to get back since OW2s release will probably be not playable anymore But the main 2 things they could do from a Gameplay standpoint is 6v6 and revert S9 and then the Game would play and feel infinitely better than now That alone wont make people come back, but its just such a better experience it helps to keep players more imo

Honestly, it's just too little too late for me. I'm tired, I'm tired of waiting for the dev team to finally do something I'm tired of them not properly listening to the community, I'm tired of them not respecting my time. I could go on and on but OverWatch has worn me out. I loved OverWatch 1 and I played it all the time till the day it was shut down. But I can't keep hoping and being disappointed every single time I see a patch update. The player base has been drained dry over the last eight to nine years and at this point I don't think it's possible to recover the trust of the player base. I have basically moved over full-time to rivals and haven't even looked at OverWatch just because rivals actually respects my time. My will and drive to grind OverWatch is gone and unless they make some major changes to the hero philosophy and game I do not think I will return. Having to deal with widow, having to deal with mauga, being forced to play clash, being forced to play 5v5, I don't have LFG anymore which I used daily, I miss my player borders, the current hero progression is ass and the leveling system is pointless, I hate the season 9 changes, I hate that every single patch makes the game dumber, I want my skill expression back, how do you rework the fire system to be worse than it was in OverWatch 1. Sorry I'm rambling but the game does not need to evolve, every single time evolves it becomes worse. Give the players what they are asking for give the players what they used to love. Stop trying to reinvent something that was working.

I'm really glad we're finally getting a 6v6 comp mode. I'd rather play comp than QP but I can't go back to 5v5 anymore. I really hope it isn't pickable passives/Junkenstein's lab. I'd rather see hero reworks (big and small) for a significant chunk of the cast. Seeing things like Mirrorwatch Ana and Rein or OW1 experimental features like Sound Barrier headshot and Mei freezing the ground to move faster could be really cool. Maybe you could remove Widow's 1 shot but make scoped headshots apply a venom mine effect. There's a lot you could do to rework heroes without removing their identity and these large systemic changes (5v5, season 9) have only made the game worse long term for limited short term gain. Whatever it is, I'll give it a try. If it is something like Junkenstein's I hope I'm proven wrong.

its great that 6v6 comp is coming back but im not young anymore. i dont have the time to beat my head against a wall and still get ass blasted everytime i even breath on genji. if they never fix him im just gunna go do things i enjoy

I disagree with you on the "overwatch needs to evolve" argument. In my opinion overwatch needs to get its shit together and finally balance the game properly to get competitive people back, and for normies do that junkerstein lab thingy and give out more skins for free. But I don't care about normies so not gonna speak about them. Ow's balance is god awful. There's no denying that. And marvel rivals has the same issue but worse. And yet people still go play it. But why? Because marvel rivals respects player skill (until high ranks), unlike overwatch. DPS are actually powerful, tanks aren't unkillable and don't give reduced ult charge. YOU CAN PLAYMAKE. In overwatch you can't. No evolution or innovation will change that because that is solely affected by balance. 6v6 won't save the game if the devs will continue to double down on shit like season 9. Neither will any iteration of junkerstein lab in comp. The game is amazing, the engine is the best in the gaming sphere, the netcode is fantastic (except hanzo), but the balance is atrocious. Why throw all of that out the window and "evolve the game" when you can just fix the painpoint? And it's not like the game is even hard to balance. Literally just nerf everything across the board. Revert most of the changes since ow2 launch (obviously except actual qol changes) and the game is fun. Support players need to just learn to play the game above journalist difficulty and devs need to not cater to morons. And then competitive players will return, and some streamers will immediately return, bigger ones will need more time. And with them more players will come back.

Bro thinks Marvel Rivals isn't balanced around Support when all of Bogur's games right now sre just 3 Supports with their invulnerability ults

Its going to be 2 2 2 or minimum 1?

I would have appreciated this back in season 4 or season 6, but it's honestly too late now. The last time they did something major for the game was back in season 9, which was almost a year ago, and a lot of people agreed that it changed the game for the worse in terms of balance. The fact that they only started caring and giving people what they want (Overwatch Classic, 6v6, free skins that were supposed to be in the shop) just because of Marvel Rivals shows just how scared they are now that they know someone might steal the player base they have been milking for cash for so long. Even if Marvel Rivals runs into problems and the hype for it dies down, there are other games that deserve attention and treat their players better than Blizzard. How many more seasons do they need to finally "save" the game? Blizzard keeps bringing back old features that they shouldn't have removed in the first place and they expect praise for it. Sorry for the rant. I still have many fond memories of this game and I still adore many of its heroes, but I'm tired of giving Blizzard chances and waiting for them to change for the better.

6v6 comp... yeah me and the boys will be there

What are your thoughts on the mini-comp season for 6v6? Will you grind it? The new rewards? Let me know!!

I think them adding a way to rate the balance of heroes and all their abilities would be nice. Even something as simple as 3 questions for example "does "insert ability here" feels fair to play against" with 1-5 star rating would be great for their player enjoyment data instead of using general player data to balance. If they do this though, i hope they weigh the higher ranks more heavily even if it's a smaller set of the players since we are the best at breaking the games balance. But i dont see blizzard ever not thinking about the average players experience too much. Heroes like Moira can never be good because lower ranked players hate her too much (i dont want her to even be meta to be fair) but the same goes for genji which i think is a completely fine and fair hero to be meta. Dare i say its fun when heroes like genji tracer lucio jq (zarya and dva too but they are kinda boring in 5v5) are meta

nah if they add that junkerstein talent bullshit into permamently im quitting for good lmao

1.lucio Skin a recolor 2.why watching streamers for free skins, why dont Play for free skins? U dont get player back with Watch and get a free Skin, maybe Play the new super Mode where u can get cool new skins, but no u only got recolor bullshit

This wasn’t a mistake. They wanted your money first but then also need to attract all the players that left for marvels back to their game so they charge for the skin at first then release it a week or two later for free. Best of both worlds. These people aren’t making mistakes, it’s planned and coordinated. Stop underestimating the evil of the entertainment industry

you should drop this game for marvel, because it sounds like you hate this shit game and these shit devs

bro is still playing ow💀

how does this happen in the first place man

If you have one skin the recolor should be discounted. 10000%

Likely a rushed decision to combat rivals making them look bad. Rivals gives free skins for hitting gold and event participation in both its seasons. OW gives diddly squat unless you spend cash on the shop or BP. The only way to compete is moving paid content to free content without the usual quality gates with Marketing. Doesn't seem that surprising. They got complacent with having no competition for a decade, and now they ate behind.

Lmfao imagine they announced they were going to shut down 😭💀

Its not so much the scam part that bothers me. Its that this is confirmation that they AREN'T taking the game seriously and I cannot trust them to see MR as a proper threat to the future of OW so they need to actually give a shit. How was this not communicated ANYWHERE in the pipeline before the patch went live?

One thing i'd like to see is core ability alternatives :))) so mercy's core ability is ressurect maybe she'd get a different ability that was offensive against enemies. Or kiriko's suzu would be a differeent ability maybe it turns into an aoe overhealth generator or something. Or maybe lifeweavers life grip turns into a stationary mei ice block kind of immortality? i'd just love the core abilities that makes heroes different being altered in BIG ways!

Incompetent, malicious dev team and company. They don't deserve an ounce of good will.