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@AbbyOW2 So is your account still banned?

Yeah in hindsight, its a bit silly how they've gone about it becuase they've got additional seasonal passives giving them bonus damage, both Hela and Hawkeye

Hela is more of Ashe

LMFAO He doesn't know.

honestly just making his ult have a visible radius before he eats people would be enough. It keeps the ultimate still fun and impactful, but allows counterplay and reaction, when before it triggered so fast that even with good reaction times it was impossible to dodge.

Thor *note, certain values to things like dmg, health, amount, cooldowns etc are just meant to be a placeholder to explain the mechanics themselves, they can change them however needed to make Thor more powerful or balanced. ABILITIES: - [ ] Hammer throw - Repurposed as a KINDA secondary fire mode (still an ability tho, it’s not an actual secondary fire, but if used correctly It can function as one but one that consumes Thor force) but you can now land multiple and considerably fast consecutive landed hits that will slowly gradually build up health and damage with each hit, and at the end will give you back some Thor force amount if you hit the third hit. (Different animations to show that you are doing the second and third hits) overall damage from the first few hits is not too much as the incentive mainly comes in the form of the health passive, range, so current hammer throws deal more damage then each hit, but each hit combined deals more damage overall. and a slow effect from third hit. And is built around to be able to be used repeatedly for a little bit. going without or hit with mjolnir bash to recharge lost Thor force, and when you miss a throw, the only penalty is that you obviously need to at least consume another third a Thor force bar to keep going again, and landed hits only drain Thor force and not missed ones because it actually lets you gain something in return that being damage and passives. - Has slight lock on or larger hit radius to help assist in more consistent consecutive ranged throws, still room for aim error but you get a little bit of leeway - Singular attacks can be woven in between throws such as the mjolnir bash and storm surge, allowing you to chain abilities together with the hammer throw, and hits with the hammer will also still replenish missing Thor force right after an attack, after using a different attack, hammer throw will still remember your last hammer throw stage and continue. So now you can either stay at range and chip away at enemies while getting health and stunning them on final hit and replenishing some Thor force, but you have to hit them in order to do so. or you can go in at melee range and combo it with your melee attacks to replenish full missing Thor force bar with the melee - Hit 1st hit and you will deal small amount of damage plus 50 health, consuming 1/3 a bar of Thor force, and you can immediately throw a follow up hammer - 2nd hit will deal larger amount of damage and grant 75 health consuming another 1/3 of a Thor force bar - 3rd hit will deal a final larger amount of damage and grant 125 health plus a brief slowed stun on an effected enemy (which will help Thor catch up due to his lower speed) and will restore 1/3 a Thor force bar to allow for either follow up chaining and to get the passives/damage, or save it for something else (essentially resets your to bar to orignal Thor force amount on the second hammer hit, plus a little extra because Thor force naturally accumulates, so it doesn’t necessarily GIVE you extra Thor force but if the throw lands then it doesn’t cost anything) - No cool downs on any missed or landed hits, this way it is balanced as if you don’t gain anything but you will have to lose another 1/3 a Thor force bar and the 1st hit again to start the chain, which means that you cant just spam the ability forever, you will eventually run out of Thor force, forcing you to go into melee range - [ ] Storm surge: - Costs 1 Thor force per tackle or strike (even if you don’t hit the enemy) and 1/2 for each tackle after the first one while in the air - Follow up downwards aoe strike that Thor will imbue it with lighting which will briefly slow stun enemies helping Thor catch up to them easier due to his low speed - When in air, you can use storm surge continually with no cooldown to fly in a direction. after using the second storm surge, it will only consume 1/2 of the next bar and so will the third. (Charging up hit in air will make you fall slower for a second) - Unlike the in air storm surges, on ground or upon contact with an enemy, storm surge will have a very short half second cool down in between uses to prevent spamming the tackle and strike, and over abuse of the health buffs - 75 health from just using it, but will allow you to 125 health if you either land a direct tackle or do the imbued downwards strike or both (health is stackable maxing out at 250, so you can tackle twice or combine the two attacks) - Thor force can be regained by either just using a basic bash after a tackle or downwards strike as normal - MAYBE wind up absorbs incoming damage and uses it to empower next attack, but it drains Thor force when damage is taken by it - [ ] Awakened state: - let us briefly fly during the state (descend and ascend) - MAYBE lighting chains between enemies - buff to 250 health to match the other abilities max health potential - his damage output for this ability is really good, but if somehow the other abilities changed together puts out more dps, then they can buff the damage as this ability is THE ability that the character should be centered around and it’s the main incentive of his kit, even though I don’t think this will be needed, but just in case it is I’m mentioning it. - [ ] Lighting realm: - same exact function as now, but replace the current slow and damage effect with a different added layer of use aside from gaining Thor force, that being that it will mark any enemy within the bubble with a lighting effect/debuff, which when hit will cause a bolt of lighting to strike them. And the other effect after the bolt of lighting could be either: deal bonus damage and a stationary stun instead of a slowed one, or send lost health from the lighting bolt of enemy back to yourself and teammates, or chain lighting between surrounding enemies.

Thor Pt.2 HEALTH: - base health reduced to 550 to better suit him for his self health sustained abilities and aggression reliant tank role for survivability, since the max potential health for abilities is increased by 50, his base health is reduced by 50, this is so that you have to make sure to rely more on your abilities to be a good tank that can constantly heal, and better makes him fit his squishy tank role at a base until you use his kit COOLDOWNS: - Abilities are mostly reliant on Thor force amount rather than cool downs, only definite times cooldowns are and should be involved are for his ultimate, lighting realm ability, and a brief half second one for storm surges on ground or contact with enemy - As for awakened state, it may seem that you can get it way more often and way more quickly now but that’s not entirely true. Hammer Throw only gives you 1/3 of Thor force on third hit meaning you have to get through two entire hits before you can even get back to two thirds of Thor force, so you don’t gain any that force with that ability, storm surge is the same thing, once you use it you can only get back to the previous amount with a hammer bash. And the awakened state takes all 3 Thor force bars, so you can’t just immediately gain Thor force (besides the lighting realm ability) and besides, you can already get awakened state very quickly anyways currently. But I may be overlooking something so if necessary, maybe awakened state could have some sort of cooldown of sorts or something to make it not be able to be used constantly, although i feel it’s the primary incentive of the character, so using your abilities and resource management skills effectively should let you be able to use it pretty frequently MJOLNIR BASH: - [ ] Reliable melee that now is more useful to be intertwined in between abilities, by still allowing for Thor force gains whenever a bar is depleted right after using an ability, allowing you to chain it with abilities to gain back missing Thor force (only replenishes one Thor force each time an ability is used to balance it, so if you spammed storm surge, you couldn’t just immediately get all three bars filled up again, only the last recent one) - [ ] Only restores missing Thor force amount per bar, making it not too op so that if I only used half a bar on a hammer throw, I wouldn’t get back a full bar and a half. And if I used storm surge and hit them with a bash, it would replenish that whole bar, only replacing what was lost for balance, basically the same thing above, just expanding on it for half empty bars ULTIMATE: -honestly I find this to be already pretty solid, but I’ve heard people complain about it being too easy to get out of and that’s fair, so maybe the lighting effect radius at the start when you are hovering and dealing damage, will slow enemies to make them easier to keep inside the radius DAMAGE: - [ ] With the new abilitiy changes, I think Thor should be able to chain them together with his melee attacks to deal more higher and consistent dps overall, becoming more of a dps tank. depending on the damage values of the abilities, he maybe should get a slight buff to mjolnir bash as well to make it a more reliable weapon, or maybe just leave the damage the same how it is now or maybe even nerf it if needed. It just depends on how these implementations affect the damage output of the character, and whether or not is too overpowered or wouldn’t hurt from a melee damage buff UNCERTAINTIES: - [ ] I believe that all the cool down changes fit well considering the trade offs implemented but if any are too op then it can be easily changed - [ ] Due to the higher emphasis on ability variety and chaining/frequency, his melee base melee damage may need to be nerfed slightly to shift him into a more ability centric playstyle, or like I said in the damage category, he might actually benefit from more damage to his melee, making him more a dps centered tank who is more fragile but can sustain himself through his abilities - [ ] Same reason as the one above, but this time with his health, I believe the new health system can be balanced, but if it is somehow too op then they can either reduce his overall base health to allow for more reliance and incentive on abilities and fit him into a healing self sustained glass cannon kind of tank role, or reduce the ability health gains, even though like I said, I think they could find a way to make it fair. The important thing is that he still has the ability to be a good tank for the team and good survivability, no he doesn’t just have a base shitload of HP, his survability should depend on how good you can use his abilities that revolve around it OVERALL: These changes and Thor’s character/playstyle overall should center around: - Resource management: A good Thor needs to be able to be concious of his amount of Thor force available, otherwise you will struggle greatly especially at close range if you over spam or don’t use your abilities wisely to not be wasteful of them, and if you manage to be good with your resource management, there should be very Minimal cooldown obstacles in your way - Close range aggression: Thor thrives on close range engagements and constant attacks, close range allows more opportunities for better dps potential, health and lighting/stun buffs, and Thor force replenishment. This playstyle he has is what helps him be a good tank, being a team distraction that gets in the enemies faces and divert their immediate focus to you. - Ability centric: - Movement: Thors abilities would allow for some movement versatility with things like storm surge tackles and Arial dash flight, his ultimate, awakened state flight. They would also be unique for him and fit his character, and since he is a tank class, said abilities would even further make the enemy team struggle to kill you and adds to the survivability aspect of his playstyle, because he has lower HP he can use his movement to make it harder to damage him or to leave an engagement when things get too dicey - DPS: Thor has a very good amount of DPS potential, as you will be constantly ability cycling, using melee attacks in between your abilities that rack up damage, grant damage buffs like the lighting realm, and ultimately his main incentive of awakens state which allows for the most damage potential. But this dps is mostly required at short ranges, to make it more balanced, him being a tank and all. Thor at range can be somewhat versatile too, his hammer throw ability requires skill for him to actually hit the enemy consecutively to gain any passive buffs and meaningful damage, and as well as said throws draining Thor force. So you can use it to chip away at enemies at longer ranges and to gain back health, and awakened state gives you a brief good amount of ranged dps capabilities but ultimately his ranged Dps and capabilities are not as effective as most ranged heroes are - Survivability/Hp: Thor is more susceptible to dying quicker compared to other tank roles as he doesn’t have as much base HP which means he requires skill to be a good tank for your team through his abilities, which are what allow him to sustain himself during and after engagements and constantly replenish health and tank extra damage. Thor should be have an increased difficulty for a tank to master, but if you get good with him it pays off greatly, raise him to 4 star difficulty and he has a higher skill floor with these changes but also a higher payout ceiling POTENTIAL ISSUES COUNTERPOINT: - [ ] Let’s say you decide to spam hammer throw at close range, giving you max bonus health, damage, and a stun at the end while replenishing some Thor force amount. This seems op but it actually functions the exact same way already just in a different form. Right now you can throw the hammer and get 100 health without even hitting the target, and then immediately replenish it with mjolnier bash and repeat this to have 200 health consistently. Yes the throw has a cool down but it’s still giving you a decent amount to damage plus 200 health without having to earn it. My way is actually more skill involved and more of a commitment, to be able to maintain max health you actually have to be able to hit the enemy each and every time with a throw to gradually gain passive buffs and bash to regain Thor force amounts - [ ] Understandably some things my need to be nerfed that already exist or that could be implemented just to balance out his character if some things are too op, but the general premise of what he should be capable of is what I’m trying to convey here, and it fits his role very well, it promotes aggression with having to hit enemies with abilities to gain health, hit enemies with lighting realm close range to gain Thor force, and gain Thor force back only through mjolnir bash, which means if you cycle well enough, you can be a mobile tank that is ability centered, but you are still squishy enough even as a tank so that if the enemy team decides to focus you, you will go down quicker than other tanks so it’s fair, but using movement to get out of engagements quickly and come back, and healing from abilities will help promote that self sustainability that Thor really needs - [ ] And if you think that each ability has “too much” to it, then I’d say look at characters like peni Parker that have tons of nuance and variety with each ability she has, and also Thor is HEAVILY reliant on his abilities, so it makes sense that they should have a good amount of variety and versatility to them

Moonknight - Higher base health, also fits with his character since he’s known to take a beating, and overall he needs some more survivability at far and close ranges - Grapple should be able to either and or wrap a cable around enemies when aimed at them, and I think maybe he should get 2 grapples to make it more viable, either that or a shorter cooldown - Make his grapple range way farther and make it way faster to grapple away - Moon blade needs something, it would be cool if you could hold it and deflect and absorb damage, which would help with survivability at long range and make him not completely helpless at close range, and absorbing it would be increasing the damaage when thrown and maybe absorbing damage slowly heals him too or something (only restores lost health) but after thrown will be on cool down. And since it is on cooldown, make the blocking much better than Hawkeyes. And to help balance this change, maybe when you throw it without any damage absorption the base damage is lower than it is now - His melee should have higher damage so that if he ever engages In a close range fight, his extra health, plus extra melee damage combined with his primary fire and moon blade can make it much easier to survive and even win close range fights, which also opens up more combo potential for moonknight also maybe extend the knockback of his melee so that he can escape close encounters - His night glider needs to be faster and boost you when you use it - Enemies in ankh should either receive more damage from moon knights attacks or maybe it just slows them down a bit which will keep them in the ankh a little longer - Maybe gliding will grant you a little bit of health over time and can max out at a certain number to make it balanced (let’s say that if you are over 200 health but are trying to heal with the glider, it will only heal you to 200 at a max) - Completely change his ultimate MELEE COMBO POTENTIAL: With the new things like: - [ ] higher health: better survivability at range and more opportunity for close range combat as he can take more damage and be close to the enemy to combo with his melee - [ ] Melee buff: significantly higher damage so that moonknight is more competent at close range, and so that there can be an incentive and actually good reason to weave in your melee in between close range combos since it does good damage, and the last hit knock back distance buff so that he can create more space to either follow up with ranged attacks, or to escape a fight - [ ] Grapple changes: Change to be able to use it to either wrap around enemies to slow them down and unable to fire their attacks, faster grapple and further range allows for either a way to get out of close combat or to position yourself further away to use ranged attacks, or you can use it to pull yourself towards and enemy to do a melee combo. And you get two of them (maybe two of them is too op, idk yet) - [ ] Moon blade would allow you to deflect and block fire from an enemy in far and close range, so when the enemy closes in on you, you have a form of defense, until you have to let it go but it will punish them for attacking your blade which will absorb damage and amplify its damage, and possibly damage absorbed can grant you lost health if you need it before a close range fight - [ ] And the ankhs new passive buff whether its damage or the slow effect, will make it so that you can camp your ankh at close range, which if the enemy is in your ankh then they will get punished, or they will have to destroy the ankh first

It's there. In diamond rank and above, You can ban.

@AbbyOW2 oh thank god 🙏

Im sorry it must be done..