Kinda strange they give us rhese shitty tank changes before the 6v6 test Even if they didnt have the 6v6 test in mind for this patch now im scared for the 6v6 tank changes or even support changes 💀😑
While I appreciate the entertainment, brother, let me tell you, for you own sake. You're malding over a super hero videogame marketed for teenagers. Take it easy 😅
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Widow untouched Orisa buffs Baptise buffs Brig nerfs Like what is this patch, this feels like the patch is made for the sake of making it in the last minute without reason, well at least the competitor is fun
All I've got to say is that the OW2 dev team is doing all they can to promote Marvel Rivals as the successor to Jeff Kaplan's Overwatch. They are balancing purely on winrates rather than understanding synergies and character interactions while including some guilty pleasures (torb and sym random buffs). This may very well be the worst balance change in all of Overwatch's history relative to the impact it it needed to have.
Hopefully not it's basically their last chance to get their player base back In any capacity cuz if it ain't good I do feel like that's it for ow people might just genuinely be done with it
@@styregt2006 True but that means losing money and I know they'd hate that so they might put in effort once just to get people hooked again so they can keep bleeding em for money
When will they realize the game is actually so much better when Mauga and Orisa are underperforming Every patch convinces me more and more they either don’t play their own game and only look at win rates like they mean everything or they don’t play above silver 3 level, It hard to believe any of them have played their own game before, because there no way they tested Bap and thought Bap one of the most overkitted supports needed more power, And no way the have ever played against a decent Widow, Dva, Orisa, Mauga, or Juno because it’s insane that none of them have been touch. I need a dev-blog video of all the balance team playing 5 matches of quick play, on the tank role and they can’t use Mauga or Orisa. Also can’t even enjoy Hazard this season every match is some mix of Mauga, Orisa, Widow, Ashe, bastion and or Juno
They do not play this game. Because if they do, they 100% are doing this to troll. These buffs and nerfs never make any sense at all. I'm skipping this season. The battle pass is boring, mythic is alright, and these buffs and nerfs are annoying now. If Orisa gets one more buff, I'm done with this game for good. I am TIRED of her.
Ya’ll really ignoring the people who love and play these characters! Blizz makes changes to please everyone (which is impossible) but they’re trying their best… also skill and team issue if you can’t deal with them
@ I get what you mean but some characters genuinely need to be dumpstered and left behind because they are unhealthy for the game people who love them be damned, should never be allowed past C teir and stay niche unless reworked because fundamentally what they are makes the game feel bad. Like Mauga. there is no world where mauga players are pleased and he doesn’t make the entire game miserable with is current kit because his design is that bad. yes, he has counters but it doesn’t stop him from making the game awful for everyone. even when you do counter him he still has 4 other teammates to help him out so it’s not always a easy “team/skill issue”
@@AnakinSkywalker-gw2xv i think that's biggest thing people miss out with the game. You don't have to worry about just one hero. There's one that can cause the most trouble, yes. but if you go out your way to try and tackle that one problem... There's still 4 other heroes that are protecting them or, in most scenarios, countering you. Sure I can bring in an Ana to help counter Mauga but I can guarantee the enemy team will run a kiriko for just such an occasion so now suddenly I have to try and counterplay the Mauga while also trying to manipulate the kiriko into wasting her suzu AND hope an enemy flanker won't take the opportunity to assassinate me because I want to help deal with Mauga.
I no longer trust blizzard to do anything, the 6v6 test will 100% be fucked up by the balance team on purpose so they can stay with the crap 5v5 format. Overwatch is just done... uninstall!
I’m the meme of Squidward looking out the window. I want to play Marvel Rivals but cannot because my XBox one isn’t compatible and my laptop will explode if I do. I envy thee.
LMAO, the fact that we both ended having a breakdown on this patch is crazy, mine started at the pharah change, I was saying that pharah was hurt the most by the general changes and her nerf combined with the soj change broke me. This patch is literaly the 6 stages of grief. Also fun fact, hitscan proj were nerfed by 15%, big proj were nerfed by 20%, even on general nerfs projectile still manages to keep loosing more, that is a huge nerf for pharah and rat specialy. Overall sad patch to read, I gave it a 2/10 and that was being generous and hazard carrying a lot there tbh
@@maxchess6734 I hate Sombra and I'm glad she's not as annoying now, but at this point I almost wish they would revert the nerf just so all these cry babies would stop whining so much about Widow. They really are getting on my nerves with all the whining.
It's mainly Josh Noh, and yeah he has no idea what he's doing. What sucks even more is that he's been in charge of balance patches for 8 fucking years. Dude needs to be fired as soon as possible, but it's unlikely to happen
I feel like they saw marvel rivals killing their game and decided to bury themselves. Everything abt the patch is genuinely the wrong decision. All of the problem characters got absolutely fucking buffed cus the devs just assume low win rate equals shit character. That argument I need to talk about. Win rate is never the way to balance a character. Playing the character is the best way. Win rate is so extremely affected by various other factors that it essentially isn’t a statistic unless it’s really really bad. As I was saying. Unnecessary buffs to characters and crazy buffs to annoying characters that further accentuate their annoying-ness. Bap legit has immortality he does NOT NEED SURVIVABILITY. What the FUCK. And also the absolute brutal doom nerfs. They genuinely kill the character so much I swear I can’t even man. Their reasoning was like oh his previous buff helped him. How often do you get a punch into a wall? Really? Be honest it’s rare and the buff only helps him here or there. It DOES NOT IMPROVE CONSISTENT LETHALITY, it makes his inconsistency less frequent. There is a DIFFERENCE. Fuck this game man I hate Overwatch so much. I can genuinely balance the game a billion times better than the devs and without their statistics it’s genuinely hurting me. Fuck this game, quitting. Marvel rivals here I come
They answered to Marvel Rivals releasing by: *buffing Orisa* slightly nerfing Mauga *restoring prime Sojourn* *buffing Bap* I'm literally just gonna get the Rein mythic with the prisms I saved and wait for the next patch
Yeah this patch was really bad and NO DIRECT WIDOWMAKER NERFS DESPITE HER BEING ALMOST OBJECTIVELY THE NUMBER 1 OR NUMBER 2 BEST DPS IN THE GAME IS CRAZY.. The hitbox changes are an indirect nerf but it doesn't solve the problem with her stupid hitscan one shot from her stupid 50-70 meter reach. An easy nerf would have been taking away 10 meters of range and/or like Hanzo kicking her out of the season 9 projectile size buffs completely. Rivals is serious competition for Overwatch and its a shame the devs aren't waking up to the challenge with bs patches like this that are both boring and really bad.
Honestly there's no hope for this game. I'm gonna enjoy the 6v6 test while it lasts but even that mode won't live up to its full potential because they're keeping Role Passives and not globally nerfing the Support healing and immortality granting abilities. Even if by some slim chance they make 6v6 permanent we both know they won't balance it correctly. Fuck Blizzard.
Gunna first say this. As a Mauga Connoisseur, 5 second charge needs to be axed. I thought 6 seconds was still way too generous. For something so important as CC immunity, and 150 DMG crit Stomp, 5 seconds feels hilariously broken. The speed increase is fine, that is what gets him to targets and out of danger, and enables his Flanking routes, go wild (within fairness) with that. I will say as someone who also played Widow since 2019, 2 things. Clearly the map reworks did Jack to assist in making her less oppressive, and 2, there was no change to her to make her OP, it was all indirect. Said it a million times, and I'll say it again. You can't touch Widow for balance, she's on a tight-rope. You can change her indirectly by buffing dive characters to close the distance faster and kill her. Overall, this season feels like a complete failure, and they have only reinforced the previous Meta, and Blizzard is about to go on Holiday, so the Meta is F*CKED for the next 2 weeks. Widow will be everywhere, and your top tanks are between Orisa and Mauga (While the armor nerf hurts, a Good Mauga player won't be hurt and will still probably melt the Orisa)
I’m so sick of this team, what game has done this over and over and every season there’s heroes who get adjusted or reworked. I truly hope MR keeps up because holy shit I’m sick of Blizzard having no clue.
I literally logged on after the game froze for Xbox, saw they buffed Orisa, didn’t touch widow, and that 6v6 wasn’t in the game and decided to go back to Rivals. It’s crazy how Black Widow proves that Widow doesn’t need to headshot, yet they’ll never touch her. It’s insane how when Rivals is on the doorstep taking away their players, they buff Orisa…. It’s moronic and the definition of insanity. Orisa buffed, community outrage because EVERYONE hates that awful designed hero. Orisa nerfed, and then… SOMEHOW… she comes back the next season to kill the enjoyment again. Make it make sense.
At this point they are just mocking us lmao i would be happy if they came out tomorrow and said it was all a joke just to laught at our faces, they had 13 seasons, almost 3 years to understand what characters people like and don't like to play against and then they keep doing the same thing over and over again, i'm not buying into the "oh they are learning, just give them some time" anymore, this balance team needs to change and i'm fine waiting a little time until a new team learns again if they actually do something. This orisa, mauga, dva (rip hog fell off) cycle, DPS getting absolutely nothing good and Supports getting away with power creep it's just getting annoying. Almost everything in this patch screams "low win rates in bronze" oh my god lmaoo get me out of here marvel rivals, and just to end this i'll just predict that juno is gonna get the kiriko treatment and be untouchable because she sells skins. edit: be careful with that soldier buff, he will dominate the game if they don't nerf him 🤣
Sojourn now one shots Tracer, but not widowmaker. Yay. That won't have disastrous consequences at all. Yay. Blizzard is totally not gutting dive and forcing poke again by refusing to nerf Widowmaker... again... At least Widowmaker won't have 60hps Mercy, I guess.
“We’re losing players to Marvel Rivals. Quick! Bring back 6v6!” *Balance Team:* “How about we buff Orisa?” “Who the hell are you? Do you make the skins? Actually I don’t care. We must get our player base back!” *Balance Team:* “I think we should buff Kiriko next patch.”
Them nerfing Pharah just to change things but not nerfing those abhorrently powerful tanks and support is why this game is in the state it is today. Sad shit.
tbh, hitscan dps struggle really hard to deal with a good pharah... and the only true way to shut down a pharah is to go bap/illari. Supports have to deal with pharah, not even the dps (who should rather attack a weak backline)...
And widow STILL doesn't get touched............it's like they're deliberately ignoring the ONE DPS, that NO ONE like going against. Even in QP they still pick her and I'm like "why widow?" Then they have the balls to say "it's QP"............. YOU'RE PLAYING THE MOST POLARISING CHARACTER, THAT TAKES ZERO SKILL, AN EVERYONE HATES HER!!!! Sorry, had to get that out.
What I find funny is how it starts off with random buffs nobody ask for like lw getting buffed last season outta nowhere and moria and all dps mostly seen nerfs and some tanks getting buffs nobody ask for it's a pretty big meme
The brig nerfs lowkey hurt my soul especially after they js nerfed her healthpacks i cant imagine how bad shes gonna be now, might js have to move to marvel rivals after this
I wish we could toggle the voice filters for mythic skins, also Moira’s mythic doesn’t say her “SURRENDER YOUR SOULS” in normal game like she says in the cosmic crisis mode, which why? That voice line was so cool :(
With patch notes like these it wont be long before comparing Rivals to OW is an insult to Rivals Devs intelligence 😂 OW Devs: Eh no matter what we do ppl wont be happy Also OW Devs: Buffs Orisa again..
You'd think the first patch after the release of a huge competitor would show that the developers took the complaints of players seriously... I have no ill will toward Overwatch. I want the game to do well and for the developers to at least try to match with Rivals, but when they roll out patches like this, they make their competitors more enjoyable to play.
I bet they nerfed pharah because of the hitscan size changes. They're doing a preemptive nerf cause they know how much of a problem in lower ranks she'll be after this change.
Seeing the cow on the buff list took a couple years off my life, I literally just started pterodactyl screeching. This is just a Marvel Rivals buff tbh.
despite lucio getting "buffed" he feels awful. then i find out his self heal wasnt even buffed. the new passive cuts lucio back. 225 hp is a deathsentence in current patch and without the dps passive nothing actually dies. awful season start for me
Marvel rivals: we'll add a sniper to the game but she cant 1 shot to keep the game fair and balanced. Overwatch: you know... I think we need another hero with one shot potential... And make sure Orisa is unkillable too while we're at it.
17:35 dont worry abby, you can spray them with the dps passive from 20m away all game and never actually dive in so while the hero fantasy is totally ruined, the numbers wont change much.. its fine... 😂😅
as a lifeweaver main im pissed off they nerf all healing at once instead of the ones that are actually too fast. now im even more forced into healbot playstyle bruh
They keep buffing the dps passive, so heroes like Lifeweaver, Illiari and Mercy can't keep up at all and other supports feel worse to play. Idk why they never tried to balance it by making it based on how much damage is applied by individual dps heroes, so characters like Tracer don't only have to tickle you with one pellet from 100000 meters away and apply the whole passive with no skill. Blizzard devs are so lazy that they keep making these broad changes that benefit some characters but not others, instead of nerfing healthpools and certain support's survivability and healing output, as well as nerf these giga raid boss tanks, so we wouldn't even need the passive to begin with. Don't even get me started on the lack of Juno and Widow nerfs. *But guys...CHECK OUT THE SHOP!!* Clown devs.
In Plat atm, I don't think we should be nerfing heroes because metal ranks can't aim. They really need a new balance team or start involving GM-Champ players into their decision making, idk how else you can fix a game like this unless you scrap it all & start fresh & really look into the core issues
That’s the metal ranks faults that they are ass at aiming. Not the characters fault. Nerfing is necessary to stop one character from running The whole lobby. If only they actually nerfed who is running the lobbies
I compete on OWCs, SOL, Collegiete, and used to be a ringer. (Flex Support Master 2+ PC) I used love it when there was some variety comps like I was able to play Bap, Kiri and maybe Ana. But now every time if we are not play Juno Brig we loose. Juno brig was fun at the beginning but now it’s just boring. I rather play double barrier more than Juno brig comps. Juno brig comps on my opinion are more brain dead . I went to marvel rivals.
Am I the only one who wanted some minor Moira Nerfs? She's gotten so many Micro Buffs such as Coalescence granting more self heal, doing more damage, and her self healing from Grasp going up with the only recent nerf being the 225 health change. She's not the best support by a long shot. She's no Ana, Kiri or Juno but she's been in EVERY GAME I play (I wish I was exaggerating) and I just want the Mauga/Orisa of the supports to go away 😔
Leaving one person to keep the whole team alive is the worst idea ever. Every support would need giga buffed healing and give them all AOE healing and insane self sustain abilities.
Wait, is the brig nerf a buff?? I mean if the healing amount stay the same but the duration of inspire is lower, you technically heal faster??Which mean more burst heal for her??
wanna talk about the Railgun revert dmg? like we finally didn't have every lobby run Soj/mercy- widow and here we go again. they didn't even touch that bullshit character but proceeded to buff torb turret (?) sym tp (?) and Orisa... they are clearly telling us: "GUYS WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE IN OVERWATCH, STAY IN RIVALS !!!! " won't talk about the BP which is complete garbage
Are you ready for this conspiracy theory? Netease actually secretly has gotten dirt on blizzard years ago, and in order to avoid getting it exposed, they needed to make overwatch horrible but not unplayable, so the dedicated playerbase continues to play and build resentment towards the game until they hate it so much but there isn’t a game like ow on the market. Until they drop marvel rivals and take all the unhappy ow players and instantly build a big dedicated playerbase for their game
imo OW2 dont care abt marvel rivals even if Marvel Rivals is a competitor IK for sure OW devs won't give a single fuck and do shit again repeatedly they are gonna make the game shit instead of focusing on what is OW not OW needs more of this and this shit im not defending ow2 actually i think blizz wouldnt even care and go shit mode again as usual
My proper mental break down for your entertainment begins at: 8:05 and onwards.
As a mentally ill man. I appreciate when it’s not me banging the pots and pans!
Thank you for your service!
Kinda strange they give us rhese shitty tank changes before the 6v6 test Even if they didnt have the 6v6 test in mind for this patch now im scared for the 6v6 tank changes or even support changes 💀😑
While I appreciate the entertainment, brother, let me tell you, for you own sake. You're malding over a super hero videogame marketed for teenagers. Take it easy 😅
That’s the real reason I’m watching lmao
I'd hate to be a bother, but I emailed you.
I don't know if you actually check your email or if someone does it for you. But let me know if you're interested in what I offered.
Thank you
Marvel rivals share holders buying more mansions after this bro 😭
Widow untouched
Orisa buffs
Baptise buffs
Brig nerfs
Like what is this patch, this feels like the patch is made for the sake of making it in the last minute without reason, well at least the competitor is fun
It makes no sense to nerf Widow at this point with Sojourn getting mega buffed.
@@starsiren9592 Widow and Sojourn can now hold lobbies hostage together
They did reduce projectile size wich technically is a small Widow nerf. But yeah... definitely still not enough
Devs: oh magic conch shell what hero should we change this patch
All I've got to say is that the OW2 dev team is doing all they can to promote Marvel Rivals as the successor to Jeff Kaplan's Overwatch. They are balancing purely on winrates rather than understanding synergies and character interactions while including some guilty pleasures (torb and sym random buffs). This may very well be the worst balance change in all of Overwatch's history relative to the impact it it needed to have.
It’s like they don’t even see it as a threat
what do you mean when you say jeff kaplans overwatch?
You do know that Jeff Kaplan's overwatch is what got us Moira, Brig, Bap, Orisa and Sigma right ?
At this point, we all know the 6v6 experiment will be fucked up by the balance team 😅
If so we need to start a go fund me to sue blizzard for emotional, mental abuse and flash advertising
Hopefully not it's basically their last chance to get their player base back In any capacity cuz if it ain't good I do feel like that's it for ow people might just genuinely be done with it
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 its blizzard...
@@styregt2006 True but that means losing money and I know they'd hate that so they might put in effort once just to get people hooked again so they can keep bleeding em for money
When will they realize the game is actually so much better when Mauga and Orisa are underperforming
Every patch convinces me more and more they either don’t play their own game and only look at win rates like they mean everything or they don’t play above silver 3 level,
It hard to believe any of them have played their own game before, because there no way they tested Bap and thought Bap one of the most overkitted supports needed more power, And no way the have ever played against a decent Widow, Dva, Orisa, Mauga, or Juno because it’s insane that none of them have been touch. I need a dev-blog video of all the balance team playing 5 matches of quick play, on the tank role and they can’t use Mauga or Orisa.
Also can’t even enjoy Hazard this season every match is some mix of Mauga, Orisa, Widow, Ashe, bastion and or Juno
I'd be surprised if any of them even play at a silver 3 level lol
They do not play this game. Because if they do, they 100% are doing this to troll. These buffs and nerfs never make any sense at all.
I'm skipping this season. The battle pass is boring, mythic is alright, and these buffs and nerfs are annoying now. If Orisa gets one more buff, I'm done with this game for good.
I am TIRED of her.
Ya’ll really ignoring the people who love and play these characters! Blizz makes changes to please everyone (which is impossible) but they’re trying their best… also skill and team issue if you can’t deal with them
@ I get what you mean but some characters genuinely need to be dumpstered and left behind because they are unhealthy for the game people who love them be damned, should never be allowed past C teir and stay niche unless reworked because fundamentally what they are makes the game feel bad. Like Mauga. there is no world where mauga players are pleased and he doesn’t make the entire game miserable with is current kit because his design is that bad. yes, he has counters but it doesn’t stop him from making the game awful for everyone. even when you do counter him he still has 4 other teammates to help him out so it’s not always a easy “team/skill issue”
@@AnakinSkywalker-gw2xv i think that's biggest thing people miss out with the game. You don't have to worry about just one hero. There's one that can cause the most trouble, yes. but if you go out your way to try and tackle that one problem... There's still 4 other heroes that are protecting them or, in most scenarios, countering you. Sure I can bring in an Ana to help counter Mauga but I can guarantee the enemy team will run a kiriko for just such an occasion so now suddenly I have to try and counterplay the Mauga while also trying to manipulate the kiriko into wasting her suzu AND hope an enemy flanker won't take the opportunity to assassinate me because I want to help deal with Mauga.
ow balance team when we had one season of orisa not being meta broken
Blizzard: And when everyone’s a mini tank…
No one will be…
Peetah, the horse is fucking back again.
Blizzard: “We need an actual change for the better.”
Blizzard notes: *Athena speech speed increased by 5%*
Notice how all the characters who gig skins in the battle pass are either buffed or had no changes
Rein got the mythic and Orisa got gigabuffed, the balance team doesn't balance around skins, they're just stupid by themselves
Mauga got one and got nerfed tho it really isn't balanced around that it just is coincidental enough to seem intentional
I no longer trust blizzard to do anything, the 6v6 test will 100% be fucked up by the balance team on purpose so they can stay with the crap 5v5 format.
Overwatch is just done... uninstall!
I’m the meme of Squidward looking out the window. I want to play Marvel Rivals but cannot because my XBox one isn’t compatible and my laptop will explode if I do. I envy thee.
I can't play it either because of my Xbox lol
I love my toaster “pc” but It needs to go the way of old yeller!
LMAO, the fact that we both ended having a breakdown on this patch is crazy, mine started at the pharah change, I was saying that pharah was hurt the most by the general changes and her nerf combined with the soj change broke me. This patch is literaly the 6 stages of grief.
Also fun fact, hitscan proj were nerfed by 15%, big proj were nerfed by 20%, even on general nerfs projectile still manages to keep loosing more, that is a huge nerf for pharah and rat specialy.
Overall sad patch to read, I gave it a 2/10 and that was being generous and hazard carrying a lot there tbh
Damn widow skins must be selling really well if she hasn’t been touched in this patch 😅😅😅😅
Thank God. I'm Widow main and was sure they would nerf her because I see so much whining about her. Glad I was wrong.
@@starsiren9592 also no sombra buff
@@maxchess6734 I hate Sombra and I'm glad she's not as annoying now, but at this point I almost wish they would revert the nerf just so all these cry babies would stop whining so much about Widow. They really are getting on my nerves with all the whining.
@@starsiren9592 I was pointing out that there was no undirect widow nerf aswell, with the dive heroes that are good against widow not being great.
I refuse to deal with orisa so im gonna play my boy T’Chala
Abby has to have the funniest reactions to patches
Samito’s is funny too bc he just rages
*BACK TO RIVALS*
6v6 test drops on the 17th. God willing, this 5v5 patch is so bad that 6v6 will feel awesome.
Ah! This is good news, so i can keep playin Marvel Rivals
I thought rivals might force them to get their shit together but ig not lol
They are the most stubborn devs I’ve ever seen, so I already knew they would continue the trend of bad patch notes
Aaron Keller has no idea what he’s doing man…..
Why blame just Aaron? There’s a whole team of people doing this dumb shit.
Like hell you do? Lmao
@@Phobie_2000 he’s the director. He bares full responsibility for what his team does. That’s how life works.
It's mainly Josh Noh, and yeah he has no idea what he's doing. What sucks even more is that he's been in charge of balance patches for 8 fucking years. Dude needs to be fired as soon as possible, but it's unlikely to happen
@@tea.23my dog can do a better job than Aaron and his lackies
I feel like they saw marvel rivals killing their game and decided to bury themselves.
Everything abt the patch is genuinely the wrong decision. All of the problem characters got absolutely fucking buffed cus the devs just assume low win rate equals shit character. That argument I need to talk about. Win rate is never the way to balance a character. Playing the character is the best way. Win rate is so extremely affected by various other factors that it essentially isn’t a statistic unless it’s really really bad. As I was saying. Unnecessary buffs to characters and crazy buffs to annoying characters that further accentuate their annoying-ness. Bap legit has immortality he does NOT NEED SURVIVABILITY. What the FUCK. And also the absolute brutal doom nerfs. They genuinely kill the character so much I swear I can’t even man. Their reasoning was like oh his previous buff helped him. How often do you get a punch into a wall? Really? Be honest it’s rare and the buff only helps him here or there. It DOES NOT IMPROVE CONSISTENT LETHALITY, it makes his inconsistency less frequent. There is a DIFFERENCE. Fuck this game man I hate Overwatch so much. I can genuinely balance the game a billion times better than the devs and without their statistics it’s genuinely hurting me. Fuck this game, quitting. Marvel rivals here I come
They answered to Marvel Rivals releasing by:
*buffing Orisa*
slightly nerfing Mauga
*restoring prime Sojourn*
*buffing Bap*
I'm literally just gonna get the Rein mythic with the prisms I saved and wait for the next patch
Why do they call marvel rivals the overwatch killer when overwatch is killing itself
The funny part marvel rivals is a little buggy but seeing orisa and bap and sojourn getting buffed I knew it was jover
Yeah this patch was really bad and NO DIRECT WIDOWMAKER NERFS DESPITE HER BEING ALMOST OBJECTIVELY THE NUMBER 1 OR NUMBER 2 BEST DPS IN THE GAME IS CRAZY.. The hitbox changes are an indirect nerf but it doesn't solve the problem with her stupid hitscan one shot from her stupid 50-70 meter reach. An easy nerf would have been taking away 10 meters of range and/or like Hanzo kicking her out of the season 9 projectile size buffs completely. Rivals is serious competition for Overwatch and its a shame the devs aren't waking up to the challenge with bs patches like this that are both boring and really bad.
Widow has skins and a mythic now, theyre not touching her
Honestly there's no hope for this game. I'm gonna enjoy the 6v6 test while it lasts but even that mode won't live up to its full potential because they're keeping Role Passives and not globally nerfing the Support healing and immortality granting abilities. Even if by some slim chance they make 6v6 permanent we both know they won't balance it correctly. Fuck Blizzard.
I’m so glad rivals is here I hope this game dies and gets a huge comeback when they start doing good
Gunna first say this. As a Mauga Connoisseur, 5 second charge needs to be axed. I thought 6 seconds was still way too generous. For something so important as CC immunity, and 150 DMG crit Stomp, 5 seconds feels hilariously broken. The speed increase is fine, that is what gets him to targets and out of danger, and enables his Flanking routes, go wild (within fairness) with that.
I will say as someone who also played Widow since 2019, 2 things. Clearly the map reworks did Jack to assist in making her less oppressive, and 2, there was no change to her to make her OP, it was all indirect. Said it a million times, and I'll say it again. You can't touch Widow for balance, she's on a tight-rope. You can change her indirectly by buffing dive characters to close the distance faster and kill her.
Overall, this season feels like a complete failure, and they have only reinforced the previous Meta, and Blizzard is about to go on Holiday, so the Meta is F*CKED for the next 2 weeks. Widow will be everywhere, and your top tanks are between Orisa and Mauga (While the armor nerf hurts, a Good Mauga player won't be hurt and will still probably melt the Orisa)
Nah they're trynna nerf healers but not actually nerf their numbers lol
Edit : no way they buffed bap.....
3:39 never seen someone jinx themselves so hard when reading patch notes
Exactly what i was thinking lol
I’m so sick of this team, what game has done this over and over and every season there’s heroes who get adjusted or reworked. I truly hope MR keeps up because holy shit I’m sick of Blizzard having no clue.
I literally logged on after the game froze for Xbox, saw they buffed Orisa, didn’t touch widow, and that 6v6 wasn’t in the game and decided to go back to Rivals. It’s crazy how Black Widow proves that Widow doesn’t need to headshot, yet they’ll never touch her. It’s insane how when Rivals is on the doorstep taking away their players, they buff Orisa…. It’s moronic and the definition of insanity. Orisa buffed, community outrage because EVERYONE hates that awful designed hero. Orisa nerfed, and then… SOMEHOW… she comes back the next season to kill the enjoyment again. Make it make sense.
I reinstalled it just to find out 6v6 isn't happening until next week and uninstalled it again 💀 fucking miserable waste of time playing in 5v5.
I agree but black widow is garbage lmao D tier at best especially at high rank/Elo 🤣🤣 Hawkeye does her job far better
@@lystal3425Okay calm down she’s not D tier, move her up a few tiers
Hawkeye definitely does her job better though
At this point they are just mocking us lmao i would be happy if they came out tomorrow and said it was all a joke just to laught at our faces, they had 13 seasons, almost 3 years to understand what characters people like and don't like to play against and then they keep doing the same thing over and over again, i'm not buying into the "oh they are learning, just give them some time" anymore, this balance team needs to change and i'm fine waiting a little time until a new team learns again if they actually do something.
This orisa, mauga, dva (rip hog fell off) cycle, DPS getting absolutely nothing good and Supports getting away with power creep it's just getting annoying.
Almost everything in this patch screams "low win rates in bronze" oh my god lmaoo get me out of here marvel rivals, and just to end this i'll just predict that juno is gonna get the kiriko treatment and be untouchable because she sells skins.
edit: be careful with that soldier buff, he will dominate the game if they don't nerf him 🤣
As a person who only plays the game because of Juno at this point, I'd be ok with her getting the kirko treatment
Sojourn now one shots Tracer, but not widowmaker. Yay.
That won't have disastrous consequences at all. Yay.
Blizzard is totally not gutting dive and forcing poke again by refusing to nerf Widowmaker... again...
At least Widowmaker won't have 60hps Mercy, I guess.
The meta that isn't changing is the Juno/Brig Mauga situation right now
Dive has no chance to be played that well
I uninstalled the game some weeks ago, but this is still comedy gold. OW balance team never fails to deliver.
Pack it up boys its joe over for OW2. Marvel rival is the future
Yeah I don’t understand the sojourn one! They should add a emergency ult nerf asap.
nothing but a bunch of minuscule boring changes 🤦🏽♂️ its like the devs have a fear of making impactful and fun balance changes
“We’re losing players to Marvel Rivals. Quick! Bring back 6v6!”
*Balance Team:* “How about we buff Orisa?”
“Who the hell are you? Do you make the skins? Actually I don’t care. We must get our player base back!”
*Balance Team:* “I think we should buff Kiriko next patch.”
And maybe another skin!
Them nerfing Pharah just to change things but not nerfing those abhorrently powerful tanks and support is why this game is in the state it is today. Sad shit.
tbh, hitscan dps struggle really hard to deal with a good pharah... and the only true way to shut down a pharah is to go bap/illari. Supports have to deal with pharah, not even the dps (who should rather attack a weak backline)...
And widow STILL doesn't get touched............it's like they're deliberately ignoring the ONE DPS, that NO ONE like going against. Even in QP they still pick her and I'm like "why widow?" Then they have the balls to say "it's QP"............. YOU'RE PLAYING THE MOST POLARISING CHARACTER, THAT TAKES ZERO SKILL, AN EVERYONE HATES HER!!!! Sorry, had to get that out.
Brig dying for Juno is so fucking funny lmao
Been playing with my girlfriend all day even though we have been fragging... im not having fun
Orisa buff is so that people play her more since shes getting a skin with avatar collaboration.
I was dying of laughter watching this bro 😭😭😭😭
What I find funny is how it starts off with random buffs nobody ask for like lw getting buffed last season outta nowhere and moria and all dps mostly seen nerfs and some tanks getting buffs nobody ask for it's a pretty big meme
A dev got mad their sound barrier got canceled and their torb turret got broken
The brig nerfs lowkey hurt my soul especially after they js nerfed her healthpacks i cant imagine how bad shes gonna be now, might js have to move to marvel rivals after this
I wish we could toggle the voice filters for mythic skins, also Moira’s mythic doesn’t say her “SURRENDER YOUR SOULS” in normal game like she says in the cosmic crisis mode, which why? That voice line was so cool :(
With patch notes like these it wont be long before comparing Rivals to OW is an insult to Rivals Devs intelligence 😂
OW Devs: Eh no matter what we do ppl wont be happy
Also OW Devs: Buffs Orisa again..
It feels like they’re just adding changes just to say they added them
What breakpoint buff is soj getting? 1 on tracer?
You'd think the first patch after the release of a huge competitor would show that the developers took the complaints of players seriously...
I have no ill will toward Overwatch. I want the game to do well and for the developers to at least try to match with Rivals, but when they roll out patches like this, they make their competitors more enjoyable to play.
I bet they nerfed pharah because of the hitscan size changes. They're doing a preemptive nerf cause they know how much of a problem in lower ranks she'll be after this change.
Seeing the cow on the buff list took a couple years off my life, I literally just started pterodactyl screeching. This is just a Marvel Rivals buff tbh.
I disagree with a lot of your takes but I’m not happy with the patch very little addressed that actually needed to be. Very minor changes to the meta
despite lucio getting "buffed" he feels awful. then i find out his self heal wasnt even buffed. the new passive cuts lucio back. 225 hp is a deathsentence in current patch and without the dps passive nothing actually dies. awful season start for me
Marvel rivals: we'll add a sniper to the game but she cant 1 shot to keep the game fair and balanced.
Overwatch: you know... I think we need another hero with one shot potential... And make sure Orisa is unkillable too while we're at it.
This is live footage of abby turning more insanity the more he reads the patch
the day rivals came out for good was the best day for my sanity
17:35 dont worry abby, you can spray them with the dps passive from 20m away all game and never actually dive in so while the hero fantasy is totally ruined, the numbers wont change much.. its fine... 😂😅
as a lifeweaver main im pissed off they nerf all healing at once instead of the ones that are actually too fast. now im even more forced into healbot playstyle bruh
I got a perma ban. Is there a way to fix this?
6:00 You know it’s sad when you look at the bottom right and see someone playing a better game
tothis day i still ask myself why the fucksoldiers field is 18 secondsd igts heals slow as shit and for like 5 secondsthank god marvel rivals is out
At this point I think the cat they used to pick which heroes to ban back in OW1 would do a better job balancing the game.
And 6v6 is not even playable yet like wtf are they doing right now???
What happened in season 9 again?
The clickbait goes crazy. Orisa’s buff is literally being called a micro buff by other creators, actually stop the cap
Bro even called it a micro buff in the vid
Should’ve called it “Orisa gets yet ANOTHER microbuff"
Someone at blizzard must really like Orisa, she always goes through a small micro buff cycle till she becomes meta then nerfed again.
They keep buffing the dps passive, so heroes like Lifeweaver, Illiari and Mercy can't keep up at all and other supports feel worse to play. Idk why they never tried to balance it by making it based on how much damage is applied by individual dps heroes, so characters like Tracer don't only have to tickle you with one pellet from 100000 meters away and apply the whole passive with no skill. Blizzard devs are so lazy that they keep making these broad changes that benefit some characters but not others, instead of nerfing healthpools and certain support's survivability and healing output, as well as nerf these giga raid boss tanks, so we wouldn't even need the passive to begin with. Don't even get me started on the lack of Juno and Widow nerfs. *But guys...CHECK OUT THE SHOP!!* Clown devs.
i dont remember the last time i clicked e playing soldier76
who could've guessed that a video about balance changes could be this funny 😭
Awful patch and no 6v6 test for another week 💀
Why is the soldier buff bad?
In Plat atm, I don't think we should be nerfing heroes because metal ranks can't aim.
They really need a new balance team or start involving GM-Champ players into their decision making, idk how else you can fix a game like this unless you scrap it all & start fresh & really look into the core issues
That’s the metal ranks faults that they are ass at aiming. Not the characters fault. Nerfing is necessary to stop one character from running The whole lobby. If only they actually nerfed who is running the lobbies
i just realised iam gonna have to play my tracer genji into a torb turret (okay maybe only tracer cuz genji is even worse now)
They balance like they want us to play rivals
Blizzard balance team be like
"Symmetra is doing well so we buffed Mauga"
I compete on OWCs, SOL, Collegiete, and used to be a ringer. (Flex Support Master 2+ PC) I used love it when there was some variety comps like I was able to play Bap, Kiri and maybe Ana. But now every time if we are not play Juno Brig we loose. Juno brig was fun at the beginning but now it’s just boring.
I rather play double barrier more than Juno brig comps. Juno brig comps on my opinion are more brain dead . I went to marvel rivals.
Reaper, widow, and juno walk away free
Is reaper a problem?
@@Lonewolfprime. not really because he gets destroyed by the OP characters, but he deletes the weaker ones
@@maxchess6734 ah I see
Am I the only one who wanted some minor Moira Nerfs? She's gotten so many Micro Buffs such as Coalescence granting more self heal, doing more damage, and her self healing from Grasp going up with the only recent nerf being the 225 health change.
She's not the best support by a long shot. She's no Ana, Kiri or Juno but she's been in EVERY GAME I play (I wish I was exaggerating) and I just want the Mauga/Orisa of the supports to go away 😔
So the devs are silver support mains, playing juno, kiri, and if they play tank they like orisa and mauga.
Their iq is too low to play any other tank
100%
RIP tanks that dps passive is going to hurt them so hard. Back to double pocketing the tank!
After playing marvel rivals Overwatch is balanced regardless of its state. Atleast in this game when i get a kill they stay dead they dont res 3 times
I think since Support is OP. Let's go to a 2-2-1 format. Would be more fun and more dynamic.
Leaving one person to keep the whole team alive is the worst idea ever. Every support would need giga buffed healing and give them all AOE healing and insane self sustain abilities.
dude their vacation is maybe next week , sooo they needed something fast 😂😂
Wait, is the brig nerf a buff?? I mean if the healing amount stay the same but the duration of inspire is lower, you technically heal faster??Which mean more burst heal for her??
No her HPS stays the same its just up for 1 less second
@@TR-ju5re ok so it's not the total amount but the hps that is affected i get it now
@@mrkusty3972 healing per second stays the same. If you only get inspire once, your healing output is -20%
wanna talk about the Railgun revert dmg? like we finally didn't have every lobby run Soj/mercy- widow and here we go again. they didn't even touch that bullshit character but proceeded to buff torb turret (?) sym tp (?) and Orisa... they are clearly telling us: "GUYS WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE IN OVERWATCH, STAY IN RIVALS !!!! "
won't talk about the BP which is complete garbage
Are you ready for this conspiracy theory? Netease actually secretly has gotten dirt on blizzard years ago, and in order to avoid getting it exposed, they needed to make overwatch horrible but not unplayable, so the dedicated playerbase continues to play and build resentment towards the game until they hate it so much but there isn’t a game like ow on the market. Until they drop marvel rivals and take all the unhappy ow players and instantly build a big dedicated playerbase for their game
Railgun does 234 with a pocket. So she can 1 shot 225 heroes (:
I would have played rivals in the suppogt sustain insanity there wasn't even worse
Marvels helped me realize i was in a abusive relationship with OW for 8 yrs X_X
imo OW2 dont care abt marvel rivals
even if Marvel Rivals is a competitor IK for sure OW devs won't give a single fuck and do shit again repeatedly they are gonna make the game shit instead of focusing on what is OW not OW needs more of this and this shit
im not defending ow2 actually i think blizz wouldnt even care and go shit mode again as usual
Solider buff is comical! Just buff his run speed please.
I have zero hope for ow, I am enjoying marvel rivals and will stick to it. Blizzard might do better but I don't think they even know what to do.
we staying on rivals with this one!🗣🗣🔥
overwatch players be like "yoo new season hype" and its the exact same as the previous season with 3 second shorter cooldown on biotic field