He speaks with honesty and great conviction. Norman Finkelstein is one of the great scholar on the topic of Palestine question and middle East conflict.
Not very much mention, description or reasoning behind the october atrocities, and if the palistinians or people of gaza do not respect the state of israel why should israel respect them😉
I believe this conflict would dissolve if not for the foolish belief in god. All this conflict over a silly superstition that an omnipresent god decides whose land it is. “God doesn’t do real estate deals”. RIP Christopher Hitchens.
@@harkyo God is a no-show. The only way to believe in god, is to go so deep into the depths of the ocean, that there is no longer any light to see. Down there, in the deep, there are spirits and ghosts that appear to us. One must suspend rationality in order to see them. I am not willing to do that. Science has continued to make the claim that a god exists a foolish one. In your depth, you have found nothing but fear and superstition. God is a no-show, he will never intervene in any worldly conflict, nor does he save the day in the end. It is all make-believe, it’s nice to believe that there is justice in the end, but there isn’t. The universe is controlled as far as we can tell by physical laws, not super natural ones. You are advocating a position that has never yielded a peaceful outcome. Both sides have an underlying claim that their God has laid manifest a homeland for their race. Even race is made up, just a category we use to designate the geography that our most recent ancestors occupied. It’s all related.
Zionists are secular to begin with and they are inflicting a western materialistic settler occupation, has nothing to do with religion because the three religions lived peacefully for centuries there.
@@boorhaave5880 Why is it good to listen to an ignorant ignoramus speak? Fink was proven wrong on Solomon's Horse Stables, wrong on Tel Dan's Stele, and wrong on the LMKL Seals... That's just in ARCHAEOLOGY, this man's chosen field he's an "expert" in: an ABJECT, SERIAL (CONSISTENT) FAILURE. Why would you listen to his HISTORICALLY IGNORANT AND FALSE MYTHOLOGIES regarding how this conflict evolved?? He has no expertise in history, warfare, diplomacy, or other politics, and he's proven to have gotten the historical facts CONSISTENTLY wrong, so he cannot even identify the problems: you cannot solve the problem if you cannot even ID the problems...the FORMATIVE (historical) evolution of the conflict. These are matters of FACT, not matters of my opinion versus his. The man is EMPIRICALLY proven to repeatedly lie, either lying to himself or to the world. Irrelevant if he's delusional (lying to himself) or lying to the world.
With murder and the extraordinary loss of life there can be no trust or safety. Separation by a freely entrusted third agency is needed to provide a safe and secure return to normal life
Why didn't the Egyptians and Jordanians allow the Palestinians to create a county called Palestine between 1948 and 1967? Where was the world outrage during those years at Egypt and Jordan? Where was the call to boycott Egypt and Jordan for occupying the lands during those years?
Because there was not such thing as a political arm or party of Palestinians which could be a force for that. And Jordan had its own interest, occupying the Westbank! No Arabian country was behind the idea of a Palestinian state, they rather had their own interest to dominate Palestinians and their land. This behavior of Arab countries is still around even if some say otherwise.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl But why after 1967 when Israel took those areas suddenly the Egyptians and Jordanians became so pro Palestinian and demanded that Israel leave those areas when they themselves had 19 years to do the same thing when Israel wasn't in those areas between 1948 until 1967. Why suddenly the Egyptians and Jordanians became so sympathetic toward the Palestinians after 1967 when they were not so sympathetic when they controlled those areas between 1948 to 1967.
@@ChannelMath Israel was established in 1948 and until 1967 for 19 years the West Bank and Gaza Strip along with East Jerusalem were all under Egyptian and Jordanian control. The question is why the world so upset with Israel for taking those areas in 1967 from Egypt and Jordan when during the years Israel was not in those areas 1948 to 1967 a total of 19 years they had every opportunity to allow the Arabs of those areas to create a state called Palestine. Why didn't Egypt and Jordan allow them to create there independent state during those 19 years?
@@zoharsutton8029 Political tactics. Arabs are and were against a Israel state from the beginning. Additionally, the states you mentioned and some more "play" Palestinians for that reason only. Most of them give a shit about them, some people there do tho. Having a anti sympathy for Israel and using Palestinians to fight it on one hand and "giving a shit" about Palestinians on the other, is politics by Arab states of all kind (Suni or Shiite) since for ever. Some people would say "But they give money and statements to favour Palestinians.". True, but these "gifts" are just enough to be seen as supporters of the Palestinian cause, not more! It's like you have a heavy bleeding patient and you only put stripes on the wounds instead of bandages or make surgeries. Do you get what I mean?
Egypt, unlike Palestine doesn’t wish to rid the Jews out of Israel. The only nation in the world who wants Israel to be yudenrine is Palestine. Therefore it is detrimental that they must recognize Israel as a Jewish state if peace is to be achieved
Palestine Just they need a Palestinian state But Israel Want only one state of Israel with Palestinians,while they're Jews & Palestinians,its better two state solution instead of drinking Palestinians blood,
@@ChannelMath Yes, that was my intention. I am aware that that there are many wonderful Palistinian indivduals who would love to live side by side jews in peace. That overwhelming majrity in Israel would be happy to give peaceful palistinians a sovern state. My Yudenrine comment was mainly addressed towards the Hamas and it Palistinian supportors. A very close palistinian friend of mine told me that secretly he and many others would love to live in peace with Israel, however the youger generation are mostly Hamas supporters that hate Israel. He added that if israel would return to the 67 lines, Hamas would takeover the leadership and continue the Gihad war.
you are not a true Jew, as I know a lot of them who are really compassionate people and understands the oppression against the Palestinians..you are a Zionyst
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He speaks with honesty and great conviction. Norman Finkelstein is one of the great scholar on the topic of Palestine question and middle East conflict.
Thank you for a free voice, freedom and justice for Palestinian people
This guy rocks. Even better than Noam Chomsky.
Not very much mention, description or reasoning behind the october atrocities, and if the palistinians or people of gaza do not respect the state of israel why should israel respect them😉
I believe this conflict would dissolve if not for the foolish belief in god. All this conflict over a silly superstition that an omnipresent god decides whose land it is. “God doesn’t do real estate deals”. RIP Christopher Hitchens.
I believe you are correct about that. In particular Religion.
Bro, it's way more complicated than that. And if you think God is the problem, you're not thinking deeply enough.
@@harkyo God is a no-show. The only way to believe in god, is to go so deep into the depths of the ocean, that there is no longer any light to see. Down there, in the deep, there are spirits and ghosts that appear to us. One must suspend rationality in order to see them. I am not willing to do that. Science has continued to make the claim that a god exists a foolish one. In your depth, you have found nothing but fear and superstition. God is a no-show, he will never intervene in any worldly conflict, nor does he save the day in the end. It is all make-believe, it’s nice to believe that there is justice in the end, but there isn’t. The universe is controlled as far as we can tell by physical laws, not super natural ones. You are advocating a position that has never yielded a peaceful outcome. Both sides have an underlying claim that their God has laid manifest a homeland for their race. Even race is made up, just a category we use to designate the geography that our most recent ancestors occupied. It’s all related.
It’s not really about that…
Zionists are secular to begin with and they are inflicting a western materialistic settler occupation, has nothing to do with religion because the three religions lived peacefully for centuries there.
Thanks, but why are you posting a video relating to current affairs 8 years thereafter? Still informative, but not up to date.
Agreed, it's always good to listen to Norm speak but why wasn't this uploaded 8 years ago?
@@boorhaave5880 because, counter to some fringe conspiracy theories, there is in fact no available means for time travel.
We are moving all our videos from Vimeo to RUclips, as it's a more widely used website.
@@boorhaave5880 Why is it good to listen to an ignorant ignoramus speak? Fink was proven wrong on Solomon's Horse Stables, wrong on Tel Dan's Stele, and wrong on the LMKL Seals... That's just in ARCHAEOLOGY, this man's chosen field he's an "expert" in: an ABJECT, SERIAL (CONSISTENT) FAILURE. Why would you listen to his HISTORICALLY IGNORANT AND FALSE MYTHOLOGIES regarding how this conflict evolved?? He has no expertise in history, warfare, diplomacy, or other politics, and he's proven to have gotten the historical facts CONSISTENTLY wrong, so he cannot even identify the problems: you cannot solve the problem if you cannot even ID the problems...the FORMATIVE (historical) evolution of the conflict.
These are matters of FACT, not matters of my opinion versus his. The man is EMPIRICALLY proven to repeatedly lie, either lying to himself or to the world. Irrelevant if he's delusional (lying to himself) or lying to the world.
what date this video ?
2014
@@quinn3334 wrong on several points
@@bartversteege2910 ur mom
Good. Morning. Thankyou
With murder and the extraordinary loss of life there can be no trust or safety.
Separation by a freely entrusted third agency is needed to provide a safe
and secure return to normal life
like the UN? great, then 1967 boarders
Fighting.for a identany to be recconigised to be a people a somebody
Everyone in the world knows what a jew is. That was not a funny joke. Well at least I hope it was a joke
😢.
Why didn't the Egyptians and Jordanians allow the Palestinians to create a county called Palestine between 1948 and 1967? Where was the world outrage during those years at Egypt and Jordan? Where was the call to boycott Egypt and Jordan for occupying the lands during those years?
I'm unfamiliar with this idea. could you clarify? thanks
Because there was not such thing as a political arm or party of Palestinians which could be a force for that. And Jordan had its own interest, occupying the Westbank! No Arabian country was behind the idea of a Palestinian state, they rather had their own interest to dominate Palestinians and their land. This behavior of Arab countries is still around even if some say otherwise.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl But why after 1967 when Israel took those areas suddenly the Egyptians and Jordanians became so pro Palestinian and demanded that Israel leave those areas when they themselves had 19 years to do the same thing when Israel wasn't in those areas between 1948 until 1967. Why suddenly the Egyptians and Jordanians became so sympathetic toward the Palestinians after 1967 when they were not so sympathetic when they controlled those areas between 1948 to 1967.
@@ChannelMath Israel was established in 1948 and until 1967 for 19 years the West Bank and Gaza Strip along with East Jerusalem were all under Egyptian and Jordanian control. The question is why the world so upset with Israel for taking those areas in 1967 from Egypt and Jordan when during the years Israel was not in those areas 1948 to 1967 a total of 19 years they had every opportunity to allow the Arabs of those areas to create a state called Palestine. Why didn't Egypt and Jordan allow them to create there independent state during those 19 years?
@@zoharsutton8029 Political tactics. Arabs are and were against a Israel state from the beginning. Additionally, the states you mentioned and some more "play" Palestinians for that reason only. Most of them give a shit about them, some people there do tho. Having a anti sympathy for Israel and using Palestinians to fight it on one hand and "giving a shit" about Palestinians on the other, is politics by Arab states of all kind (Suni or Shiite) since for ever. Some people would say "But they give money and statements to favour Palestinians.". True, but these "gifts" are just enough to be seen as supporters of the Palestinian cause, not more! It's like you have a heavy bleeding patient and you only put stripes on the wounds instead of bandages or make surgeries. Do you get what I mean?
Pick Uganda !
More political bull! All innuendo no facts. Typical!!
The Palestinians need to say yes to a peace offer. That would solve it.
peace offer???????
What a sinister joke !
No peace without GOD 😂
No peace without Justice
No peace with God either.
Lots of Noise!!
Egypt, unlike Palestine doesn’t wish to rid the Jews out of Israel. The only nation in the world who wants Israel to be yudenrine is Palestine. Therefore it is detrimental that they must recognize Israel as a Jewish state if peace is to be achieved
The Europeans should go back to europe and u took there home from y would they want peace
when u say "Egypt" or "palestine", I assume you mean the leadership? because the people are divided
Palestine
Just they need a Palestinian state
But Israel
Want only one state of Israel with Palestinians,while they're Jews & Palestinians,its better two state solution instead of drinking Palestinians blood,
@@ChannelMath Yes, that was my intention. I am aware that that there are many wonderful Palistinian indivduals who would love to live side by side jews in peace. That overwhelming majrity in Israel would be happy to give peaceful palistinians a sovern state.
My Yudenrine comment was mainly addressed towards the Hamas and it Palistinian supportors. A very close palistinian friend of mine told me that secretly he and many others would love to live in peace with Israel, however the youger generation are mostly Hamas supporters that hate Israel. He added that if israel would return to the 67 lines, Hamas would takeover the leadership and continue the Gihad war.
GOD is in control 😂
Satan, you mean???
Ha ha !
Bla bla Bla ful rspect for this lunatic .J baruhović
Read the bible...... israel forever and ever 😂
Deep dislike 3:19 3:19 of Finkelstein. A self hating Jew.
That's better than hating the entire world like the Zionists do !
you are not a true Jew, as I know a lot of them who are really compassionate people and understands the oppression against the Palestinians..you are a Zionyst