Time to boycott Israel? | Head to Head
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2014
- "Prospects have never been better for settling the Israel-Palestine conflict," argues Norman Finkelstein, the controversial scholar and author of The Holocaust Industry and Method and Madness.
But after more violence, yet another round of failed talks and 20 years of Israeli land annexation, is the two-state solution really still an option?
In this episode of Head to Head, Mehdi Hasan challenges Norman Finkelstein on his proposal for resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict, and explores whether he has changed his tone on some of his more incendiary criticism of Israel.
Once described as an 'American Radical', Finkelstein has also been branded by some a liberal Zionist, for his opposition to the one-state solution and the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel, which he vehemently describes as "a cult."
But does the BDS movement violate international law, and does it really aim to dismantle the Israeli state?
Joining the discussion are Salma Karmi-Ayyoub, a leading Palestinian activist and human rights lawyer in London; Jeff Halper, the director of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions in Jerusalem; and Oliver Kamm, a writer and journalist at The Times and The Jewish Chronicle newspapers, and outspoken supporter of Israel.
Norman Finkelstein photo courtesy of Don J. Usner
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Understanding this situation , I have boycotted Israel for the past 50 years . Did not make a difference . But
It has given me a sense of peace .
every boycott counts that's why israel is trying to make bds illegal. thanks for ur boycott
We were all asleep, but now we will be more ❤️.
Which is precisely the issue with consumer based solutions. Complacency.
@@punchgod
I do not have a god so
I am left with what I've
Got ....i hope you are doing better with yours .
Respect! We all have to do what is right, and just and satisfying to us and not just go with the consensus
Support for Palestine from Texas, USA
👏👏👏
Chad Maples I agree
John Kerry is a creep
I think he’s a fallen angel, he’s evil
Me too and My most respect to you from Morocco !
Poor Norm, always having to debate people far below his pay grade. Bless his patience and commitment to truth. We treasure you
This Al Jazeera clown moderator is so infuriating... one of the most dishonest person I´ve ever seen.
touche!
He’s out of touch w reality sociopath that uses his dead parents for clout to sell book deals keep living in lala land lmaoo
Very well said
I was to say that
💯
Dr. Norman is always calm, listens to others' view with no interruption, and then he answers with facts, logic, and reasoning. I also love the fact he has his own set of values and principles therefore he doesn't care what others think of him. In another word, he is not a hypocrite.
Much love and respect to this man. His name shall remain in history as an honorable man.
Actually, he's not always calm. His takedown of Oliver Kamm is brutal (and a pleasure to watch).
ZIONISM racists.
I agree with Hawk description if Finkelstein .
BUT
Finkelstein really does block other people from speaking while he loquaciously extemporizes.
Yeah I can’t agree with the “always calm” statement lol. But he’s a good man. And it takes a lot of balls to do what he does.
@@matthoffman6962 He is "always calm", by the standards of second-generation immigrants in New York City
I love how Norman Finklestein gets everyone rattled. He's so smart and intelligent.
I support Palistine from Indonesia.
Holland is a small country. Yet they were able to conquer all of Indonesia. Could it be because you are all a bunch of primitive morons?
An Israeli said, "What separates a Palestinian from animals?" A Palestinian responded, "The Wall."
Dr Norman is on another level….when God made one, he only made one, you can’t break him….he is very unique and very knowledgeable.
actually I don't think that's true--- look at Amira Hass or Ilan Pappe-- I looked at all the people from Israel or from the Jewish diaspora who are the most outspoken in opposing this evil and supremacism... I noticed most of them had Germanic surnames... nearly ALL of them are descendants of survivors of the European Holocaust. That's why they recognize this clearly for what it is
Survivors were treated like *GARBAGE* in Israel for the first few decades. They were called 'cowards' and 'collaborators' and 'weaklings'.... they are anything but.
"Survivors were treated like GARBAGE in Israel for the first few decades....." Really??? By whom??? Weren't the survivors Ashkenazi Jews? Weren't they the founders of Israel? According to the historian Avi Schlaim, an Israeli Jew who move to Israel in 1950, the Ashkenazi Jews behave as they were superior respect to the Arab Jews. @@prismpyre7653
Biblically , your a useful idiot for Israeli primary adversary, as well as the world . That being the ANTI Christ, who will show up in the not to distant future !
Bla bla emotional rubbish
@stellabrown you're right
Wow! Norman just blew them away with facts and intelligence.
That Academic would never talk nonsense, and you wouldn't realise it anyway.
i think there's something to what finkestein says. he's right that BDS is _the only_ palestinian activism going on, but overwhelmingly the efforts of westerners against western institutions. AND the coy 'no position' on israel & sweeping 'right of return' goals in BDS mission statement could result in arab majorities in both palestine _and israel._ essentially, two arab countries presumably electing arab leaders. not what the UN had in mind in 1948. so BDS is a cowboy operation of gullible western do-gooders and lazy palestinians (yeah, i said it), with the latter doing little on own behalf but petitioning UN for membership & favorable rulings in UN court of justice, letting themselves get blown up before western media (since they don't build effing bomb shelters), and crying the victim blues to every camera & audience they can find online and in diaspora (i have first hand experience of this). frankly, i wouldn't want them on my borders either. they have no economic plan for statehood except living on UN (and other institutional) dole. yeah, i checked. that said, israel's boycott, land grabs & regular military assaults are indefensible and illegal. so you've got the cowboys vs the outlaws. a pox on both their houses, but each has a right to own house. i can't/won't support BDS until the worrisome parts of charter/mission/whatever that norman identifies are changed.
Yup...Norman is a true scholar. An ethical person too. I attended one of his speeches and got an autograph.
phil123711 unfortunately in 2018 many a “pro Palestinian” Westerner after watching this show, find Mr Finkelstein as a pro Zionist anti Palestinian!! stupidity has increased to outrageous levels!
Tiktaalik evidence zero? US passed a law in 26 states to stop people from boycotting Israel. You think of evidence was zero they would pass an unconstitutional law? Just common sense.
Norman Finklestein is and will be remembered as a hero.
@Smash Revino No!
Is he dead?
By who?
he is not so good, finklestein does not want Palestine to be Palestine, he wants to keep his Israel...his colony!
He's on the right side.
Dr Norman's brutal take down of that journalist was his level 1 defense skills. I can't even imagine what he would do if he was actually mad.
Finkelstein has become an embarrassment to the movement for Palestinian rights. Sadly, that is the reality.
@@phasespace4700 and why is that?
@@anthonyml3472 Finkelstein has been on a crazy anti-BDS rant that has really made absolutely no sense. He's been very aggressive and nasty toward those proposing the one state solution, calling them idiots and kooks. Is Illan Pappe an idiot? Is Gideon Levy a kook? Are they members of "a cult" as Finkelstein has characterized proponents of one state? And now, lo and behold, it appears as though Finkelstein has finally reached the same conclusion as most others, namely that two state is dead as an option and the only possible way forward at this stage is one state, (which he has always claimed, echoing the lunatic Israelis, would mean "the destruction of Israel")
@@phasespace4700 yeah I like Fink but I think he is making a useless argument here in 2014, and as we see, yes he does eventually come around to 1 state, because nothing else remains. his argument here comes off as unnecessarily nitpicking BDS.
@@deathofaclown you call BDS's willful inability to recognize Israel as a state as nitpicking???? Im pro palestine, but A one state solution is fantasy land thinking
This man is a legend for speaking up against all the EVIL that has been happening in Palestine 🇵🇸!! May God always protect him and may he guide us all to the straight path AMEEN.
Norman Finkelstein has not changed. And he is hopeful and realistic
I just recently learned about Norman, and I have the upmost respect and admiration for the man. One of the bravest souls and uses his intellect for the good of mankind.
You go and do something about the Chinese. Now.
@@louisdewit4429 what are you talking about?
@@cyberanon2463 - Read again.
@@louisdewit4429 I read it. What do the chinese have to do with norman? Do you mean we should condemn Chnina3for its crimes as we do for Israel? The Israelis built their illegal settlements on the ruins of a genocide.
@@cyberanon2463 - Darling. Tibet. East Turkestan. Look it up on your China 🇨🇳 manufactured iphone.
No scruples there. Norm is occupying America and living on a genocide. Such hypocrisy.
this is like, "when truth speak through a man". Thank you Norman for enlightening us!
u4true! .... the wisdom of truth
You need to keep interrupting Norman, because if you let him go, his learning, scholarly understanding, humanity and bravery turns into poetry. Look at his body language. Relaxed in the face of constant interruption and attack as he knows he has truth on his side.
He is the truth
He totally schooled Mehdie
@@thomasbuxton2648 No, the cute Palestinian lawyer made mincemeat of Finkelstein. Frankly, he sounds completely deranged.
@@phasespace4700 they mostly agree.
@@ChannelMath Except for the worldwide movement to help Palestinians known as BDS and the only possible future for Palestinians, which is one state. Finkelstein inexplicably opposes both, with a virulence that calls to mind a crazed Israeli settler youth. Of course, he now admits two state is dead, so who knows what all his yammering was about?
"I apply as much value to that as I do to the dust on the floor". Priceless.
30:03
@@abdullah087 thanks for time stamp
The protests in London yesterday and last week were amazing. Thank you everyone for joining. See you next week ❤ 🇵🇸
10 years later and situation is worse than ever.😢
Who else is watching this 5yrs later during covid 19 crisis😷 in 2020?
Yes . Dr. Norman is quite interesting.
2021🤙🏿
Nope in 2021
@@billyjoel6352 true but I mean not all of this period is bad there are good stuff as welll
im watching now since its pops in my recommendation...algebra does it works..
The answers are so logical and deep, shows how intellectual this man is.
Palestinian did a great mistake in the history by giving Israelis staying as guest in their land with kindness.
They did not have weapons like the israelis and the britains.
Their kindness has become their abatoes.
indeed they did
@@fatimazahraelmorabeti8942 c
@or green
It was not a command to hunt down the J people. It was a forecast that you people will turn so bad for the rest of the world that even trees and stones will be witness against you. Israel and its Zionist supporters are living example of that utter badness.
"When you get too popular with the people, then there's probably some problem." This is so true on so many levels 24:57
Norman Finkelstein gets attacked from all sides but always manages to refute (or rather destroy his opponent). He also manages to be truly neutral and realistic, which is rare, and also why he is attacked from all sides.
Steven Greaves Most people in Israel are atheists.
Benny Panil Aah, my bad I was talking about about the atheist among the Jews. Most Jews are atheists.
IsraHell will fall soon anyways.
@Benny Panil BEN SHAPIRO WOULD DESTROY HIM?>????????? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
@Benny Panil Ben shaprio Got destroyed by a BBC journalist, he would never stand a chance on Norman.
Professor Finkelstein is a and has been for Decades,to the detriment of his career, a champion of the rights of the Palestinian tragedy. The Palestinian from the crowd that asked him who's side are you on got me vexed, Professor Finkelstein has spent more time on this subject then that guys probably been alive and has paid a heavy price for it. There's ,to my Knowledge, no none Palestinian individual that has done what Professor Finkelstein has done for speaking up for the Palestinian cause and successfully refuting the bogus propaganda machine of the Israelis and their corrupte/misguided supporters. As Pro Finkelstein said, he's not on anyone's side rather, he's on the side of Justice and truth and so should we all be.
muslim610 I agree with most of what you say, but you must also acknowledge that Finkelstein had many tools that most Palestinians don't have, his voice is heard.
And they'll accept a one state solution? Like Finkelstein says, if two states is Wizard of Oz stuff proposition then one state is Man on the Moon stuff.
I agree. Finkelstein has gone as far as to live with the Palestinians and we would be hard pressed to find somebody with more integrity on the subject.
@@ramonalejandrosuare I agree that two-state solution is a more possibility than one-state solution.
At the end of the day he is a Jew. His interests lie with the Jews. All the rest is a talmudic word game to paralyze the Western mind with cognitive dissonance. Finkelstein is there so Jews can say 'see not all Jews are the same' as a distraction while they steal everything from everyone. If you think it is just Palestine they are coming for think again.
What's fascinating about this is how much deeper Finkelstein's knowledge and thinking is on these issues than almost any of the people who interview or attack him. His conclusions may not always be correct, but his intellect, his reasoning and his morality are always sound. A man of remarkable intellect and integrity, and extraordinary scholarship.
His condemnation of BDS is not the product of sound reasoning. In fact, it's completely incoherent.
@@phasespace4700 As I said, I don't always agree with his conclusions, but his value system is internally consistent. And I think he has probably thought about all this a lot more deeply than I have.
@@jbird6561 I just started reading "Gaza" yesterday. Already impressed!
It's looking like a no-state solution (or a Final Solution!) to me. Given what the Israelis have done to Gaza and what they are starting to do to the West Bank, I think it's all over for the Palestinians. God help them as no-one in the neighbouring countries seems to want to.
Finklestien for world president
lets all agree that US ,UK are complicit to ongoing conflict in that region
Massive respect to Norman Finkelstein!!! For ones a balanced view with an aim for a solution and open options, especially after a very tragic life story, which most people would simply use to hide behind!!!
I can say that Norman is my brother, because his feeling for justice NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
We all--fair, honest and hard-working people--are brothers. We are brothers and sisters.
Lots of people think Trump is their brother because of his feeling for justice too. But they have been taken in by a con man. So have you.
@@jackkessler9876 Trump doesn't have any feelings of justice for anyone. What do you mean by "his feelings?" Do you mean "his ego, his superiority complex"?
@@miguelmurill1 You might want to work on your reading comprehension skills.
@Ronie Lavon Finkelstein has never had anything but mindless hostility for Israel. There are numerous words for such a person, none of them complimentary.
It's very rare to see mehdi hassan outshined in a debate.
Top marks to norman
This guy!! Only time i've seen Mehdi listen to his guest because they're actually spitting so much faaccss
Professor Finkelstein . amazing , we need more people like you , just and honest .
I love when Finkelstein drives home his point with a historical analogy.
Dr Norman is gem ❤no body can ever beat him on this issue
I love this man Mr. Finkelstein. He is so humble that he calls himself a mere doctor while he is in fact a top professor. Power to you Norman! You're a true living LEGEND!
This man Netanyahu is the most dangerous man in the world
He has no compassion of his attack on Gaza give them 24 hr notice which UN is angry about and asked them do not it and then these poor people majority children and women many children were killed
This guy is the smartest guy that understands politics
Charles Bukenya I
The current US President could learn a lot from Proff Finkelstein.
Lol! Please give me what you smoking!
@@joemagnets9940 how do we manipulate people?
We are just a religous minority group that has been discriminated against for the last 2000 years
All we want is to be left in peace on our patch of desert where we can be safe to be who we are
Too much to ask?
@Ronie Lavon in 1880 there were about 500,000 non jews in palestine now there are about 2000,000 so to say we have driven them out is I think an overstatement
Yes many of your ancestors came from europe and other middle east countries not as colonisers but as settlers in their ancestral homeland and lest we forget many were attacked by local fedayeem for their religion
Let us not also forget that ottoman palestine was declared the jewish homeland after ww1 by the league of nations
I am all for multiculturalism but the jewish experience of the last 2 millennia indicates that might is right and that minority groups normally get victimised...another reason for majority jewish statehood
I put it to you that the palestinian problem is in fact a middle east problem of poverty for many and wealth for a few...
And on the subject of driving people out where are algerias jews?
Where are syrias jews?
Where are the Iraqi jews?
Dr. Finkelstein is one of the thinkers with the greatest integrity. His depth and breadth of knowledge on the issue, which he has dedicated his life to, is second to none.
We stan an outspoken, well informed advocate. Thank you Norman
Prof. Finkelstein dedicated his adult life to the fight of human rights for Palestinians. This man is a legend.
Norman Finklestein is to good for that front bench, alls im saying is, if i owned a university, he would be my first employee.
before you buy that school, the word is "too".
That is one of the reasons why people like you are not allowed to own universities.
Then he would occupy you're university and say it was his according to the Torah...😂😂😂
That says a lot about your lack of qualifications to be an academic.
@@bevfearn8147 Thank you for condensing into a single sentence all the blather the ignorant use to justify their ignorance.
Finkelstein as always demolishes his opponents with simple facts, logic and reality. He doesn't have to resort to petty insults to receive an applause, if he's attacked, he responds. Love this guy, he is in fact a rockstar
A formidable debater
Does he support BDS now?
Sadly the last 6 years with no progress in the area, have shown why he was wrong in this debate.
@@mortef 'Sadly', the truth is that Islam is the original intruder, and as such, can never take the moral high ground. Israelis were in Palestine long before Islam was even dreamt up!
@@mortef Finkelstein has idealistic views but also pragmatic at the same time. Enigma ! He is awesome though
28:53 "I´d would like to answer that" *Proceeds to give the most vicious annihilation in the history of public debate*
Boycott will definitely a step in the right direction.
Dont underestimate us. You can boycott us and we will prosper. That is the Jewish way. The harder it gets the better we become! God bless Israel!
If you boycott israel you boycott Google. Facebook. Microsoft. Intel. Waze. Medical technology that save lives. Agriculture technology that save lives. And many more. Come on boycott israel you stupid morons!
@@rachelladiary nobody has a problem with Israel prospering. The cruelty and abuse towards innocent people and children is the issue.
@@Nozarks1 no terrorism no israeli attacks. Simple.
@@rachelladiary true. If Israel doesn’t terrorize, all will be well. Israel gets 4 billion a year in US as military aid. They have needle point precision weapons, one of the best military in the world (thanks to US) Palestinians have a few rickity rockets, a rag tag few people put together, trying to defend (and not succeeding) themselves.
There’s a moral question here. It is very easy to kick around and hurt a puppy dog, we are prevented from doing this if we , have a heart, belong to the human race, or have love or fear of the afterlife. Without either we become like jungle animals, read lord of the rings.
Finkelstin is a hero!
@David Miles Who?
norman finkelstein is very composed and smart in this interviews. Excellent
It's highly impolite to interrupt Prof. FINKELSTEIN.
What a legend and wonderful man he is.
He always have time to help showing and defining the truth.
Just Iconic
Norman Finkelstein's honesty and wisdom is more than praiseworthy.
“You’re opinion means to mean, about as much as the dust on the floor”, that dude got raked over the coals it was magical!
Hahahahaha it was the best response I couldve asked for because that dude had no ounce of relevance to give his opinion in the matter.
May ALLAH (S.W.T ) help my Palestinian brethren including all of us.
Somebody should help them because their leaders are ruining them with corruption and stupid pointless intransigence.
Ameen
Allah is our only protecting friend
Ameen!! Our ummah will become strong soon! InshaAllah
The magical sky wizard isn't helping, Isreal grows stronger by the day.
Hats off to Dr NF, it seems like the interviewer was always trying to trap Dr NF but his response was always in the positive..
Everyone should watch that right now, it's happening again and again.
Such a moral hero. These. Are the kind of people we should be looking for to be 'running' the world! The peace makers, not the peace breakers
god bless u.
I must say that I have never seen anyone on that seat answering questions with such grace and knowledge and he left no opportunity to include that personal attack in his answer.
I'm immensely glad I came across this
So ahead of his time!!! Shame nobody listen to him 😢
Great debate... and I do see Normans frustration with people putting words in his mouth or taking what he says out of context.
I support the people of Palestine, even though my government lacks the courage.
+deec c
You support the people who elected Hamas.
Hamas : Stated goal is worldwide Jewish genocide.
You LITERALLY support terrorism. I cant wait to hear you bastardise common sense and history in justification.
haha.. straight from hasbara booklet. I don`t believe a word you spew, and frankly the world is closing in on Israels lies.. That why the panic.
deec c
There is a word for people like you ... racist.
+NefariousVirtuoso88 Actually. The Israeli government is the racist, bigoted body here. And your agreeing with them... what does that make you?
deec c
A racist country does not allow Arabs to imprison Jews.
A racist country does not allow Arabs to serve in all levels of their government from Supreme Court to Military.
A racist does make excuses and ignore all barbaric acts by Arabs and projecting those acts on Jews.
The part where he made example of Churchill and Stalin really got me. Brilliant professor indeed.
What's the surprise, most politicians and world leaders are puppets for the ruling power aka the freemasons. To understand life one needs to know who the ruling power is. We are given ideologies by the System to understand some so-called reality when we should be researching who created it.
@@masterflow6783 100% agreed
@@Nimble.tkl1 100% idiotic conspiracy.
9 years later, Finklestein is still correct in his analysis.
11:23
Brutal moment.
He shut the people up.
Dr.Finkelstain is no joke.
good man
@@jonasdauerbrenner6432 TRUE
Around 12:00 when the audience claps and then Finkelstein destroys them is amazing. I don't think i've ever seen someone wreck that many people in a 30 second response so thoroughly.
Steve Kits watch a richard dawkins or christophet hitchens debate....norman does not come close ^^
Nah, I think Norman outstrips those two by far.
i'm a fan of both. The reason I love this one is a combo of his response and the statement made by Medhi that is applauded by everyone immediately before dropping the hammer.
@@a.thawkser6627 They nearly always always debated fundamentalists and it is pretty easy to destroy fundamentalist religion isn't it?
I think they cut out some applause just after the remark. Does it have to do with remark on Churchill?
The problem with Dr. Norman Finkelstein is that he represents 'Common Sense'. Now WHO wants that!? ;)
Alex Graas Ummm... no. No he doesn’t. He represents a forked tongue, speaking out of both sides of his mouth. An establishment hack.
Ronie Lavon My remark may’ve been a bit strong but his disparaging remarks against BDS supporters by calling us a cult and defending Israel’s “right to exist” doesn’t convey anti-establishment inclination.
@ that's because most normal rational people agree with the establishment that Israel has, at least according to international law, the right to exist and you cant criticize Israel for violating international law but then not recognizing the legitamate of its existence. Realistically, BDS would get farther if it just does this and doesnt do itself a disservice of being "agnostic" on the right of Israel's existence. Later on they could move the goalpost and annex more territory or even merge into one state. It would probably be better to merge into one monetary union first (like the Eurozone) since that would make for an easier transition. Realistically, do you think Israeli citizens will want to live under one state with the Arabs? Probably not. So this request wont go a long way. You would have many more Jewish supporters if BDS officially recognized Israel's right to exist.
thatmamay thatmaymay That’s a fairytale wish. What Israel means as “right to exist” is it’s “right” to brutalize Palestinians and pillage more of the West Bank, and ME in general, because the basis of its STATE is rooted in supremacy, that a Jew deserves exclusive ownership of land over a non-Jew, including that of neighboring countries hence the creation of Hezbollah to defend the region.
BDS is getting plenty of a desired response, to deservedly stain Israel’s image globally.
Sorry but you’re wrong. There’s nothing ethical nor moral about a hostile ethnostate with the aggressive agenda of Manifest Destiny.
thatmamay thatmaymay Did You mean to erase your message? I actually read it. I’m still trying to figure out what you mean by separating the Israeli message from the international community.
love this. im a big fan of norm. my favorite is when he is on the defense, when he faces pushback he delivers so well.
Norman Finkelstein is a true scholar and a genuine radical. The people asking questions appeared very aggressive, putting words in his mouth and taking information.
I support Palestine from the USA
You're not from the usa
I am and I do too!
Muziks Chilu I support Palestine as well. Got anything else to say ?
@@muzikschannel4860 -sadly they are,someone let in the enemy who would destroy the only jewish nation on earth,a people who own 99%more people and land than israel but created paliestins as a tool to destroy a true jewish nation in the torah,bible and even quran,muziks,these people have no shame,cheers
Palestinians voted Hamas into power, a group that vows ethnic cleansing of Jews from the land.
palestinian we support you .peace & Love from iran
Peace Iran as a Palestinian living in America we love you also
Benny Panil what are u talking about? They are the ones who really care for the freedom of rights... Thats why they fight for the right things..
Benny Panil This label you try to slap on Iran as the worst human rights violator is a joke, I could go through a list of countries middle eastern, Asian, Western that violate human rights. The United States the so called example of democracy etc.. violates human rights. Get over it, there is alot of evil in the world and it does not exclude the western world.
Hi Iran, how are the Rojelat doing?
Sending tons of love to Palestinians brothers and sisters.
We are with you until you take back your home. Remember Resistance is code of victory. Viva Palestine Viva Resistance
Nina from iran 💖💚💖💚💖
Allahuakbar 😢 8 Years later this Occupation still happen
Thanks for your Dedication Al-Jazeera ❤
Norman Finkelstein is glorious! Thanks for sharing.
This interviewer tried so hard to personally attack Professor Finkelstein only to be met with brilliant rebuttal. Yet another master class on debating by Professor Norman Finkelstein!
Agreed, Medhi Hassan kept interrupting him smh
I love how Dr. Finkelstein corrected the interviewer when he made those personal attacks and just presented logical arguments to his arguments even though the interviewer wouldn't let him finish speaking. He doesn't seem to understand basic manners (i.e. to let someone finish speaking before you speak)
Norman , you know how to come back ..
Even though I disagree with his support to a 2 states-solution, since I believe that there shall be no peace or a healthy Middle East as long as a malignant colonial entity exists in its heart, for which a liberation resistance must continue by the Palestinians and the Arabs around, but I utterly respect his intelligence and him standing for what he believes in, he is a well versed and a true factual person.
My salutes to mr. Finkelstein
Your views are really pathetic then
I agree. I think each should have their own country. With each being a democratic country and their own laws according to their people.
Son of 2 holocaust survivors . Norman is my hero.
Thank you Dr Finkelstein. A lot of people misunderstand you, but in my opinion, you made complete sense to me.
I respect this man a lot. He doesn't settle into being radical or provocative. Is main aim is to address an injustice and once it has been addressed, he is perfectly fine with then being seen as moderate. Meaning, his interests are peaceful and non-violent.
Which injustice are you referring to? Hamas desire to take "every inch of land" and exact ethnic cleansing, or the Rashidun's invasion and colonization of the land ?
@@yanivb5173 not really they want their land back you don't go to someone's country kill them and steal their land and expect them to be happy and kind
@@hannahabdi3904 The problem is they want all the land "from the river to the sea".
Jews want their land back too, they have lived on that land for 1900 years as the majority population. However Jews were willing to accept 6 proposed peace plans since 1937, Arabs rejected them all.
@@WanderlustNomad77 if they want their land back they should go back to Europe or Germany because that is where they're from the true children of Israel were expelled around 70 AD and they were all black its laughable to think they returned to Israel White
You don't have any idea what radical means then.
In all honesty, it's kinda sad to see how intellectually ignorant so many of the people in the audience asking questions are. Finkelstein has spent well over half of his life dedicated to getting justice for the Palestinian people and he's gotta keep explaining a simple strategic position that these people just can't grasp.
They always try to outfox and one up Finkelstein, but it never works. He's super intelligent and he's put 40+ years of work into the conflict. Can you imagine Ben Shapiro attempting to debate him? Norman would have Ben running home to his momma. Kudos to Dr Finkelstein from Kentucky.
Professor Finkelstein is an intellectual rock star.
And a great human being
muslim610
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muslim610 I admire him, he has fought for justice his whole life.
muslim610 Finkelstein is an idiot.
Finkelstein is a KAPO.
Mehdi is absolutely insufferable here. He has all of his points and opinions pre manufactured and is spitting them out incessantly. He doesn’t even respond to Norman’s rebuttals.
I agree, this is the tv media curse.
100% correct. Mehdi is a jerk and bully. Norman but that obnoxious guy in his place!
I couldn't understand what was going on with Mehdi. Why's he acting like a pig, or is that part of his job
Used to kinda like Mehdi Hassan, but MY GOD he's unbearable here.
This man is a rock of knowledge,logic,and commonsense.
28:07 the answer Norman gives Oliver is just amazing ❤
I love Norman. he develops very good statements....
thank him
Norman Finkelstein, a true modern hero
Joseph Sarria indeed love and respect him so much
Finkelstein is an apologist for Islamofascism.
Or traitor.
Norman finkelstein
You'are magnificent as usual true human been and a men of justice thank you so much
From Algeria
Viva la resistance
Why ask the man a question and then interrupt him when he's not saying what you like? He's not a great host or interviewer. Never interrupt your guest after you ask them a question and the proceed to answer it.
These people are only interested in arguing. Not one of them can come up with a solution. If only they had studied about their own problems as much as Norman studied.
To the gent who claims he never saw anyone or any entity state that criticizing Israel is anti semitic, come live in Canada. You obviously haven't heard of Bill 202. It's illegal in Ontario to criticise Israel. It's punishable by law under the pretense of anti semetism.
You clearly aren't educated if you don't understand what semetism means.
It’s also illegal in America
@Tom Marlin nope not in FL
@Tom Marlin I have no doubt, try doing it when engaged in state work/business or social media.
@Tom Marlin good for you be the voice that many do not have
Name one person who's been prosecuted for criticizing Israel.
I've known Mehdi Hassan for many years and watched a substantial amount of his piercing destruction of many who've been subjected to his cross-examinations. Before watching today's show I've never known Norman, and even though I admire Mehdi, I have to be fair and objective and conclude that Norman has not only resisted Mehdi's (and at times audience members') incursions but rebutted them with sincere, ethical and sensible arguments that in addition to being capable of assumption by the ordinary people like us, exemplify the great mind that he is. I say this as a Muslim and naturally I have a lot of love for Mehdi, but at times, and especially after watching Mehdi today, I have to wonder what his intentions are at times and whether he is influenced or restrained by the company he keeps.
exactly, he worships finkelstein.
His intention, when it comes to Head to Head, is to grill people. Make them sweat, make them come up with arguments that actually sounds reasonable, to make people defend their positions to the extent that it is possible.
@@strappedwithkrylon exactly it would't be a debate if he had agreed with him all the way lol
That's what you get when you go to a fight with a superior being, and you are unaware of it.
Mehdi has to play the devil's advocate. That's why it's head to head.
Well done, Norman! Unconditional support for Palestinian people!
Why are they all attacking Norman. He is the only one that has the knowledge of the whole history of Palestine & Israel. He also is the only honest person in that whole room.
It says a lot when a figure such as Norman Finkelstein is considered to be a "controversial" one.
Support to Palestine from New Zealand 💕
Shame on you for what you did to the maori
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 Shame on you for what you did to the Palestinians and to every country that ever took you in.
@@nancykennedy7703 Exactly and you left out Land Grabber and Baby Killer.
Pally Land, not palestinians
It is the Maoris' country. Go back to England you white supremacist invaders. Before you complain about Israel taking over Palestine, maybe you should get out of Maori New Zealand? Or are you comfortable with being a hypocrite?
Norman Finkelstein's level-headedness is admirable. I've heard Zizek describe himself, as a "morning after Communist" or something of that sort - which I think is the kind of sensibility that NF is also emanating here.
Just got one of this books from the library today, so looking forward to that.
This man is controversial 😂? What a legend 👏
@Beek Hock in da Hos I think she was talking about Finklestein
exactly I'm just confused. I think people were maybe just deeply unfamiliar with his work, and somehow thought he was a provocateur.
I've never seen someone with so much moral strength and integrity... To stand up against his entire race for what he believes in and not cave it... His moral strength is superhuman. Truly superhuman.
Mad
There's many Jews over there who feel the same way he does, but they are being silenced and jailed.
@@jamberry8026 - Bollocks.
@@louisdewit4429 You wish it was bullocks. Many educated young Jews stand with the Palestinians. So does God!
@@jamberry8026 - Interesting 🤔
Tiktok brought me here but Dr Norman made me stay 👏🏾👏🏾
Me to
Me too
wow....... what happened currently now is so corrected on this episode 9 years ago
I was struck by something that the Palestinian lawyer and activist on the panel said about a proposal being unfair. When being oppressed, the oppressors and those that enable them will not care about fairness. Ironically, often the oppressed have to be stronger in constitution than the oppresors to escape the oppression. Sometimes escaping the oppression into a situation where you can be free to follow your dreams can be the only viable option and a measure of victory. To have a whole laundry list of wants and conditions can leave the oppressed trapped in an ongoing cycle of oppression.
@@Pale_Einstein My comment has to do with the realistic end goal is for an oppressed people. In any oppressor and oppressed dynamic, the disadvantaged oppressed people will never escape the oppression if the end goal is about fairness, because the dominant oppressors will never allow it and the oppression continues. Freedom from oppression and to be able to thrive afterwards should be the goal rather than whatever the oppressed think are the fair conditions for said freedom.
Support for Palestine from Georgia
Georgians and the Armenian are the best
Dumb
@@thegoldenboy3799 your mom
@@tayaharper3210
Tell me the reason
@@thegoldenboy3799 The land does not belong to Israel
The settlers were put there in Palestinian territory by the Government of Israel. The settlers had no mind of their own except carry out Israel's strategic policy to OCCUPY Palestinians land / Territory. The two state solution is the only way forward if there is the Political will of all players in the unknown contents of the salad.
surud,the arab settlers came in 632 jihad occupy israel holy ground,thou shall not lie,oh sorry,u allow to taquiya
the bible warned us about false prophets such as mohamad,the quran warns us about the evil of violence to humans by ur allah,the moon god,ur salvation comes from christ that will bring u to god
@@makedonistoifake informatie
Have you ever Read the Torah ,it says Kill all women and children
The Bible was corrupt it was written by humans ,so did the Torah, every Holy book have different information,the Koran was not written by a human, the Prophet cannot read and write, God the angels Gabriel to repeat the message From God , that there is only one creator 😮
If palestinia becomes officially a well recognized state, then it will be harder for Israel to get away with what they've usually been doing with land occupation and aggression against the Palestinians
Majority of the questions was to attack his person, not to question the historical and perverse conflict.