Woke people label this transphobic, I call out this nonsense as being ridiculous . It’s a pity our media doesn’t criticise this delusional stupidity more effectively Instead of giving it a platform to promote their ideology.
because she just told you what you wanted to hear??? (you can't deny the fact that gender identity exist -- and that is separate from sex. read an article or two from WHO or something.) this woman is extremely biased and she never even acknowledged what the other party had to say. is this how a discussion works? i fear tf not.
@@okaywtf2607 No, because what she said was fact. We hear from “the other party” constantly. We hear their attempts to hijack our language and to change the definitions of words. All done in an effort to repeat lies so often that they become truth. The constant misinformation and downright lies. The emotional blackmail around certain statistics relating to the ending of lives. There are (at most) 3 genders. Male, female and intersex and even with intersex there will be a dominant sex. Male and female are determined in nature. No amount of surgical intervention can make a boy a girl or vice versus. It can make you appear as the opposite sex but that appearance is deceptive. You do not become a sex because you choose it. There are masculine girls and feminine boys and that is absolutely beautiful. There is nothing wrong with that! The idea that there’s something wrong and that you need hormone treatments and surgery is outrageous.
Those people are to be protected and respected, I've met humble and genuine salt of the earth gay/bi people in my life, been to pride events back when they were events. Loved every interaction I ever had with them. I do feel truly sorry for them because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Pay attention to what type of "trans" are causing the divide. it's transvestites/cross dressers. Trouble is, all government establishments are too stupid to tell the difference between the trans types, and they're giving trans privileges to those that don't deserve them.
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others-and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” Matthew 19:11-12 It’s now being censored to read something else.
Sexual reassignment surgery is to reassign your sexual organs. I know you don’t care about this because you just wanna shit on people who are different but I just wanted to let you know that you’re ignorant and need to find an outlet that helps you mind your own fucking business ❤❤😂🎉❤
They also want to break healthcare, including their own healthcare. I once had a patient who REFUSED to be educated on how to catheterize himself because we couldn't educate someone with a penis on how to clean his labial folds. They'll try to get themselves scheduled for the wrong health screenings, won't consider that they (suppose, a "woman") could have a certain diagnosis (say, "prostate cancer").
These are the liberal white women who are at the bottom of all the chaos that has occurred in the last 60 years. They are so deeply lost in trying to make all the correct pieces fit into the puzzle, for two reasons I can identify. One they have no idea what they believe and why. They have grabbed into the moving river of left thinking without realizing it is a constant dynamic movement which has to adjust itself to fit the situation. There is no stability here. This has enormous impact on their lives. We all operate within a framework of belief and when those beliefs are constantly changing and often in conflict it is mentally destabilizing and they must work so hard to maintain structure in their life. Exhausting. Two, they are so caught living in this false dynamic that they will not admit they are unhappy with the choices they have made as woman. They got so caught up in the struggle for rights they just won’t let go of it because their lives are vapid and empty. They have to have purpose and they walked away from the basic biological purpose. They are lost souls with too much time on their hands. If we could repurpose these women and tell them that yes they have a right to choose how to live their lives and they have a right to equality but much of what feminists told them was a blanket lie, life in this country would be very different. They do not recognize how much they have been used, like so many other groups that have been fed this victim mentality. Feminism in all its forms is at the root of so many problems. The right has been so demonized in their eyes they refuse to hear women who find purpose and happiness and success inside and outside the family home, they look at them like three headed dogs. Yet all you have to do to prove the point of their unhappiness is look at the prescriptions. And back in the day the average housewife burning their bras just wanted to have the freedom to choose how to live their life. Crazy.
She comes across as articulate and well-reasoned, but really she's using strawman arguments, misusing terms intentionally to misrepresent other arguments, and appealing to intuition rather than evidence.
As a gay man you’re someone who formed very obviously with some cross sex functions.The way you feel attraction has feminized yet your genital flash and other sex characteristics masculinized,few years ago you where the one persecuted ,the vileness to persecute others.
She intentionally misused terminology in order to dismiss any points she disagrees with, and appealed to intuition rather than evidence. That's a pretty bad way of going about describing what's really happening, but a good way of reinforcing the beliefs of those who already agree with you and won't critically analyse what you've said.
@@hazelnut975Well for one she said “sex” when she should’ve said “gender”. No trans person thinks they can change their sex, they want to change their gender, or rather change their body to more closely match their gender. But sex is biological, literally everyone agrees on that. It’s just that one side deliberately claims sex and gender are the same thing for the sake of the culture war (hint: it’s the conservatives). Also the whole “allies deny that there are only 2 sexes” thing. Biologically there are more than 2 sexes. Like that’s a fundamental truth, intersex people, people with XXY chromosomes, XXX chromosomes, ect. They all exist, the more accurate statement is “sex is bimodal, most people are XY or XX, although some small deviations exist”. Like at a fundamental level this video is intellectual junk food. There’s no empirical data or interviews, she’s just running on her feelings. Im so sick of snowflakes like her crying all the time because they get triggered that 0.5% of the population is trans. Like get over it lmfao, trans people exist and facts don’t care about your feelings.
I worry about how gay rights may be affected because of everything that is going on that has nothing to do with us, and yet we get lumped in. Please recognize that most of us are not looking to invade women’s spaces or deny biology. We just want to live normally and non-intrusively just like everyone else.
this is quite possibly the most articulate and socially appropriate explanation of the undercurrent of the transgender conversation that exists. This Woman should be on every show to communicate this point clearly so that everyone can be on the same page to start the conversation again
Maybe, but in addition to the global resetters who have a far reaching agenda and who have at least up until recently been very direct and explicit about their societal-wide intentions accordingly to the point where at least the last I checked, which admittedly was a while back, were still broadcasting their aims online, who would likely benefit both indirectly and directly, it's merely a matter of following the money insofar who supplies products and services to fulfill the perceived wants and needs of those who have decided to modify their bodies in pursuit of their feelings accordingly as well children's bodies insofar as medications and surgeries, etc. People don't need to be in the shadows to collude with one another, especially if they both have the money and patience to play the long game and have access to shape children's education curricula.
@@J_The_Colossal_Squid Agreed, it is not so in-the-shadows anymore for those, such as yourself, that take a look. I think that if you believe their is a hierarchy of power, control and access to resources, those at the very top benefit from societies that are more "inclusive" (of everything) so that mass migration illegal and illegal can continue into western countries so the declining populations can be countered so the economies don't shrink and the banking, food and energy industries can continue to grow profits. Something like that.
Respect for what? It's not 'offensive' to claim there are two biological sexs, it's simply scientifically (reality-wise) not true. You only have a binary genetic sex, but look at intersex individuals that have another biological sex appearance than the genetic one may predict. The fact is that biological sex is not binary but much more complex. This is not because of some religious dogma, but because its simply how nature and reality presents itself.
Yes because she is mentally stable and mature unlike the narcissistic "they/them", who whenever make statement on RUclips, talk like kids in nursery, when they have need to belittle someone. You know that kind of "heheee you don't haveeee, what I haveeee, heheeee" and make grimace along that "statement"
@@ExpendableRedshirt You don’t know what I think. I just praised her for stating the facts and doing it calmly. Whether I agree or not is totally irrelevant. As a member of the LGBTQ community, I am tired of emotional lobbyists highjacking the movement and talking in every media in the name of everybody. Those people will set our community back 75 years.
I am LGBT and totally agree with what she's saying. People have fought hard for their rights and now this gender ideology is ruining it as the people are now beginning to lose respect for LGBT and people who truly are trans because its now being viewed as a label or a fad that a person can change on a whim.
If you are LGB and not T, or even if you are T, I suggest working to drop the T from the group. It's a category error. The inclusion of T is not in the best interest of LGB.
@@aranisles8292 I get what you are saying from a logical perspective, however even when I came out 20 years ago (late 90s) there was already a movement in the community to be open and inclusive with the intention of preventing minorities ( such as trans or intersex people) from feeling vilified and excluded which they were ar the time. However even at that point I noiticed that there were certain trans activists who were more 'militant' with regard to pushing their political agenda.
@@aranisles8292 To be honest the ultra militant political stuff really turned me off and is part of the reason I slowly distanced myself from the community as a same sex attracted female who mostly clicked with gay men but had next to nothing in common with most lesbians who tended to be more masculine oriented. I also had no interest in feminist politics and have never really been involved in the community other than trying to reach out and make social connections when I was single. Now that I am in my 40s I have more important priorities and don't even have time to engage with people socially due to study and work commitments. However I have now come to understand why the 'queer' community will probably never be accepted by the mainstream and its because of these ultra radical political people who have hijacked the movement and will continue to do so. They have created a quagmire due to their fd up ideology that the majority of people just can't relate to.
@@elasroczynski5987 Thank you for replying. Trans people definitely deserve full rights. The problem is not trans people, it's trans or gender ideology, which has an agenda that results in violations of LGB rights and women's rights, men's too. It's the conflation of sex and gender that leads to discrimination against all those groups.
What a silly comparison. They couldn’t accept themselves because of their mental instability and gender dysphoria. But You couldn’t accept them because You are a bigot and arrogant. This is the difference between You and Them.
Exactly!! They want us to except them BECAUSE they can’t except themselves! A person who is comfortable with who they are will never care what other people think and will never force it.
Do you mean transgender people? You should just accept that they can't align with their sex and move on. Why rage about it and get all angry and try to obstruct their rights? The principle behind it isn't harmful.
Helen Joyce is a joy to listen to! Organized ideas, civilized arguments and polite unwillingness to budge on what matters! 🍀💪🏽😻 I wish more people like her!
Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic As a clinical geneticist, Paul James is accustomed to discussing some of the most delicate issues with his patients. But in early 2010, he found himself having a particularly awkward conversation about sex. A 46-year-old pregnant woman had visited his clinic at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia to hear the results of an amniocentesis test to screen her baby's chromosomes for abnormalities. The baby was fine-but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother's womb. And there was more. One set of cells carried two X chromosomes, the complement that typically makes a person female; the other had an X and a Y. Halfway through her fifth decade and pregnant with her third child, the woman learned for the first time that a large part of her body was chromosomally male. “That's kind of science-fiction material for someone who just came in for an amniocentesis,” says James. Sex can be much more complicated than it at first seems. According to the simple scenario, the presence or absence of a Y chromosome is what counts: with it, you are male, and without it, you are female. But doctors have long known that some people straddle the boundary-their sex chromosomes say one thing, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) or sexual anatomy say another. Parents of children with these kinds of conditions-known as intersex conditions, or differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs)-often face difficult decisions about whether to bring up their child as a boy or a girl. Some researchers now say that as many as 1 person in 100 has some form of DSD. Could you be a Chimera? ruclips.net/video/8WsF9Z4B7T8/видео.html
@@sugar4522 She wrote a book called Trans, when ideology meets reality. She has been doing talks and interviews which I have listened to in RUclips. For instance with unherd.
@@ClannCholmain that's a really fascinating story! Intersex people do exist and are not very rare but most of them are clearly one of the sexes and have some change in development or hormonal profile which makes some features ambiguous. Most of them are not a third sex nor a mixture. The case you shared is fascinating because it belongs to the extreme rare natural events of a mix. Like hermafrodite. I don't accept the exception should let us stop believing there are two sexes. It just means there are generally two sexes and some people with different than usual development or genetics
@@user-pi5xo4og9d so they just got up and started passing laws gratuitously? Oh I know what you'll say. "It was their plan from the start, they're [x]phobic and [slur], and the poor trans "community" " It's backlash you're facing, but you'll only ever interpret it as undeserved aggression.
@@el7284 the people with hate and fear in their hearts never come out on the right side of history. Yes, gratuitously. Without medical data to back any of it. Because cruelty is the point.
@@cyrenedomogalla5127 this victim mentality will get you nowhere. The use of terms like "target" and "cruelty" are mere hyperbole, meant to paint a picture that isn't true. Why does the left make it sound like trans people are feeble amoeba ready to explode at the drop of a hat? I believe otherwise. On the point of medical data: John Money and Kenneth Zucker.
You just made my day.... Genuine trans women & trans men are suffering resentment caused by radical trans people (I call them Me-Me's), I am not one of those selfish, narcissistic kind. I'm a 'genuine' trans woman who understands I was born male and will always be male. I will never fully transition to a woman because I physically can never be an adult biological female. I don't use pronouns, I don't expect special treatment, I don't use women's spaces unless invited to by women, I totally disagree with biological males participating in women's sports, etc... For the above, and because I can define a 'woman', I am outcast from the, now, radicalised LBTQA+/Pride/'woke society' as a transphobe. I will never be a woman, and I will not steal a woman's identity to selfishly make myself feel better. I am proud to be a trans woman, and I really appreciate being able to live as a trans woman in today's society 😘
@@sbethbaker I genuinely don't. This person says that they're a trans women, so I would assume they go by "she/her" if they consider themself to be a woman, but they explicitly say they don't use pronouns. If they're offended by people using any terms other than their name then I'm sorry for using pronouns in this post, if not then I simply don't understand what they mean. Either way, I feel like there's something I'm missing and welcome the education so as not to cause offense.
@lawrencebates8172 my apologies, Lawrence... good example of how it's difficult sometimes to know another's true meaning when discussing/debating in writing. I fell into the trap I know exists... I'm sorry, please forgive me. 🙏🏼
No, we don't need that... We need to put the record straight on this radical and disruptive movements, that want to brake everything! Start for not give them air time, boicote merchandise, forbid pride parades, don't let them change history or education programs, penalize politicians that are "allies" to this agenda full of BS... gender and biology rubbish, race stigma, rewrite history, rewrite books and so on... This people are insane, artificial, autoritarium and want to force disruption... Who is behind this movements? What is the real agenda? Disrupt western society's and divide us all... Divided we are weaker, disruption is conducive to chaos...
@@sosimple3585 from what i saw in the video i expect her book to be the same unsubstantiated drivel of a transphobe. I think i’ll listen to actual experts and not her, a mathematician who became a journalist who thinks she’s somehow educated enough to talk on this subject. She’s clearly not.
@@feanedhell If you're mind's made up then you've got nothing to lose by giving it a try. The worst that can happen is you fail to escape a regressive, misogynistic, and homophobic cult.
Very well put and entirely without hatred. Anyone who sees hatred in her perfectly sensible and reasoned argument is irrational. And my patience for irrational people is quite thin.
@@PhylaetraWell, yes. It is not hatred. She’s just stating a fact. Saying what is the root of the problem here so you all can hopefully do something about it and fix it.
@@Drud so - you believe that _everyone_ who disagrees with her wants to 'destroy everything'. Get rid of civil rights for gay people, eliminate public schools? But - that's not being hateful, that is just 'stating the root of the problem'... You actually believe that one can say such hateful things about those they disagree with but not actually hate them?
She is so clear and succinct in this argument and so phenomenally well spoken she brings sanity back into these issues. Keep fighting for women Helen… thank you!!!
@@cyrenedomogalla5127She was perfectly clear and succinct in her points which I agree. The word bimodal was not used by her nor is it a word anyone uses to describe anything pertaining to the human body and it’s attributes. Bimodal, as in to have two modes. My dear, I think you need to unplug and go outside and take a walk on the grass barefoot… 🤦♀️
This is put perfectly. My sister is an "ally" which I believe is largely due to her poor mental health and her need to be loved by everyone but mostly strangers. She knows our love is guaranteed so she doesn't need to try for us, but friends and strangers she'd take a bullet for.
Please read Eric Hoffer’s magnum opus The True Believer for a brilliant profile of these people and the psychological underpinnings that drive them to escape from themselves through fanatic adherence to mass movements like the trans agenda.
Calm, rational and full of common sense Well laid out points …. That are unfortunately true And ‘allies’ of groups can often be far more vicious than anybody else
This is an opinion through and through, this is not logic. There are no facts here other than we dont like the way this group lives and therefore we must regulate them to be more like the whole.
@@chrisknowles6582 sex is not binary in humans.. Have you ever heard of intersex people?? There's a lot female and male traits combinations... not even chromosomes are reliable, you can have physical female traits and "male" chromosomes... Reproduction is binary, you need the two reproductive systems, yes...sex is not, sex englobes a lot more than only your genitals, and even speaking about genitals intersex people exist
You can argue with the premise that she put in. For example her definition of sex and gender is not very good, and her assumption about motivation is bad, so her implied conclusions are wrong.
As a bisexual woman i agree. I like manly men, and femenine woman. You have no idea how often i get screamed at because im not into transwoman or transmen. Or lesbians that fit more into a masculine section.because they think, the fact i like both has to mean that i fuck whatever, and dont have prefrences. 🤦♀️
No one’s claiming there are more than two sexes, generally. Although it’s a fact intersex is a thing. The major claim is there’s a difference between sex and gender expression. Which I think is true.
@@thebreadtable4880 no They say sex is not tje same as gender. Q Not gender expression. The way you formed it it sounds like sex and gender is the same. How come tjey claim that there are over 72 genders . If no one is claiming there are only 2 sexes. Why is it so important for men to go into the womans bathrooms or locker rooms?
I listened carefully to two gay colleagues a while ago. They really are ‘upset’ by the tensions caused by this trans movement and think schools are sending the wrong messages to kids.
If someone feels like the opposite gender and wants to present that way I have no problem with them ❤ the problem indeed is when people demand we restructure society to cater to their every want
@@cyrenedomogalla5127when it comes to our speech?? Or how about letting them ruin women’s sports and spaces. Oh and I know all the teachers who lose their jobs across the US who simply won’t lie to their students or keep vital information from parents. 🙄🙄 it’s all disgusting.
I think it's also important to point out that these "allies" are also destroying trans rights. The radicalisation of the politicisation of this issue comes as a direct push back from these people.
Extremely well summarised. Reality does not fit their emotional state so they want to break reality to make it conform with that emotional state. That is why we are being told to ignore reality!
The only people ignoring reality are the ones that insist there are only two sexes 😂😂 take a quick look at genetics why don't you. Trans people don't deny their sex, none of them, they are painfully aware of it. This shit is made up, propaganda bullshit. No one denies their sex, there are more than two sexes, and most importantly SEX DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. You can be gay by being in love with the same gender, to say that being gay depends on biological sex is in fact the homophobic viewpoint. This woman is saying that if a man dates a trans man he is not gay, how is that not homophobic. Women's rights are completely unaffected by trans women and children's education is woefully devoid of gender discussions.
We need more people like you, please stay strong. I am with you and there are many more l am sure of it we just don't want to get involved, because these people are scary.
its odd to think that people think that trans people are destroying the rights of the Lgbt community and not the people that are actively calling for their eradication.
What bothers me most is when they ask what is a woman there is only one answer to that all the people on this planet have a mother and that is the answer
What a remarkably silly comment. To say that people have mothers obviously doesn't answer the question at all. "Woman" and "mother" are not synonyms. There are lots of women who are not mothers. I think you know that, really.
@@omp199 The fact that there are women who don't have children is irrelevant. What is relevant is that every single person on Earth *has* a mother. There is no person on Earth who doesn't have a mother, or a father for that matter. The male parent is a man and the female parent is a woman. Women are people who are biologically designed to have children. Whether they have them or not makes no difference.
@@janegardener1662 If the question is, "What is a woman?" then the fact that every single person on Earth has a mother is *obviously* irrelevant. You as good as admit it in your last sentence: "Whether [women] have [children] or not makes no difference." That's what I'm saying. Your own final sentence is the point that I was making.
@@omp199 your logic can be just as easily refuted by saying that not all women are mothers, but all mothers are biological women. The reality is sex is not a spectrum and mammalian sexual dimorphism means that you produce, and your body is shaped for the production of either a large or small gamete (ova/sperm). There is no third gamete , and masculine/feminine behavior is in no way exclusive to either sex, but there are patterns whether you like it or not on the behavioral and personality differences between male and female. The very argument you’re making undermines homosexuality, because if im a bigot/wrong for not being attracted to a trans man ( biological woman ) then by your logic, conversion therapy is absolutely plausible
I was hospitalized recently and my name on the white board was “Mr Fox”. I told them to erase the “Mr” because I didn’t play the pronoun game. If visitors couldn’t figure me out with my gray hair, heavy beard and a deep voice - whether I was a male or female fox then that was their problem. They asked me if I wanted to use a custom introduction and I said “yes”. My name is “the soon to be discharged and enjoy home once again” Fox.
@@techyn8502 Not sure what you mean but a day after I declared myself “soon to be discharged and enjoying the comforts of home again” I was, indeed, discharged home. Ah, to again enjoy the creature comforts of home following a 3.5 week hospital stay - ecstatic! As to “woke” - I’ve been awake for well > 60 years in a Constitutionally conservative manner. I still don’t play the silly pronoun game. It’s about the stupidest waste of taxpayers time and money I think I’ve heard of in all my years on this earth. We are very fortunate to have a very secure and widely transmissible language with standards that everyone agrees upon. If someone decides to deny agreed upon standards of communication, then, to hell with them when someone else refuses to play along.
@@slypperyfox "Mr." and "Mrs." are titles. They are not pronouns. They have been in use for centuries, since long before this "gender" nonsense started, and they are as much a part of the English language as anything else. What is your objection to them?
“Fanaticism can often be a normalized phenomenon, and the unwritten recipe suggests that it starts and ends with absolute certainty. If you are always certain about everything, you might just live in an echo chamber, or there might be a lack of ideological diversity among your sources and friends. Only, there is no size limit to this echo chamber as long as there is consensus: and the bigger the chamber the more solidified the fanaticism, and the more solidified the fanaticism the more the outlier will be seen the liar and the fanatic.” ― Criss Jami, Healology
Well said. I also think that transvestites and autogenephilics are entirely different from people who have gender dysphoria. That distinction should be brought into the light.
Yes, they certainly are. The literature is clear on this distinction. It does need to be validated and taught openly, however. The repercussions from conflating sexual paraphilias, unbelievably rare mental health issues, and just blatant narcissism are clear, hence the current mess we're in.
I said that at work, and was fired over it lol. I was trying to prevent predator men from sleeping in the same shared room as my domestic violence victims in our shelter. I mentioned autogynophilia and sub groups
If I hear another trans elation of bullshit I think. I'll brafffffff. This woman speaks sense. This agenda is about the very distruction of the human race. Allow it at your own peril
I graduated highschool in 2016. I *loved* my highschool biology classes, and frankly they gave me a better "sex education" than anything else in the whole public system just by exploring in detail the male and female reproduction systems (including pregnancy and lactation). Now just eight years later, I wonder if it is still even possible to teach these courses and what kind of attack my wonderful biology teachers might be facing. All because a vocal minority has decided that the very reality of the human body should be considered "offensive" and "exclusionary." Honestly, I sometimes think that the whole woke and trans agenda is ssatanic. I believe that we were made in God's image and made explicitly male or female, and this movement is hell bent on confusing us about our own bodies and encouraging mentally unwell people to sterilize and mutilate themselves.
"Honestly, I sometimes think that the whole woke and trans agenda is ssatanic." OK, honestly, is this a *parody?* :D :D :D It's so hard to tell anymore. :D :D (Cut to something about--- "mentally unwell people"... :D :D :D) "Now just eight years later, I wonder if it is still even possible to teach these courses and what kind of attack my wonderful biology teachers might be facing." *Teacher* here. I KNOW EXACTLY who's trying to attack me and my profession in *my country.* I know exactly who's trying to make my job harder. And it ain't drag queens, trans people, or trans activists, whomever or wherever they might be. (I haven't heard one of them try to THREATEN me.) "All because a vocal minority has decided that the very reality of the human body should be considered 'offensive' and 'exclusionary.'" That is literally what *Bible-thumping right-wingers* have been doing in America--- since before the Eighties. No, seriously, is this a parody account, or--- are things really that different in Europe?? :D :D Anyhoo, nothing says rock-solid mental health like obsessively PARROTING the idea that some "woke people" are SATANISTS out ta get ya...!!! :D :D :D
I genuinely don't think it's productive to discuss sex in the context of gender identity, but I'm curious what you think God is getting up to every time a person is born intersex...
@@Serpent0fEden reality is not transphobic. Reality just is. But some people may be reality-phobic and strive to drag everyone into their delusional phobic world.
@@aydinbiber7616You are confusing sex and gender. They are the same thing. And you fall for this pseudo gender knowledge which basically render gender as a behavior.
The point she is getting across is that those who are complaining all the time don't speak for all of us, which is very true, much like everything in life!
Except that she used the wrong terminology and accused "allies" of denying that we have bimodal sexes. Except they aren't. Sex isn't binary. But it is bimodal. Lot of mojo Jojo talk that sounds nice for reinforcing biases here
@@cyrenedomogalla5127 Reproduction is based on the presence of enough functioning males and functioning females to ensure the survival of a population. The survival of a population doesn't hinge on how any specific individual feels about his or her sexuality or gender identitly. It survives on reproduction. In order to function reproductively, there must be males and there must be females, and that is literally all that is required.
@@janegardener1662 Do you honestly think that the 0.1% to 0.6% of people who identify as trans are making any sort of dent on the human breeding population?
@@voodoominerman What's that got to do with anything? I literally don't care about how they perceive themselves. It's none of my business, but they're making it my business by telling me how I must refer to them in emails. They're humans, their grammatical number is "one" and therefore they will get singular pronouns from me.
@@janegardener1662 "Reproduction is based on the presence of enough functioning males and functioning females to ensure the survival of a population." This is the point *you* chose to start with. This is what you decided was the most important thing to mention. If it's not important, why did you mention it in the first place? "They're humans, their grammatical number is "one" and therefore they will get singular pronouns from me." The terms they/them are *already* used to refer to singular people of indeterminate gender. Have you honestly never heard someone say something along the lines of "I'd love to meet your friend, I've heard so much about *them*"? They are clearly talking about a singular entity in this sentence, one whose gender has not been specified. That being the case, it seems perfectly sensible to use they/them as a pronoun for people whose gender is essentially "no".
And more than one animal that can change their sex depending on whats going on in the environment. Other animals are gay. Its in nature but we like to like like we're apart.
This is a beautiful statement and perfectly also highlights the issues we in the LGB community face being denied our sexual orientation when it's already hard to come out.
Imagine gender just mattered less in society. If it was normalized that people fall in love with people not genitals. Doesn't mean individuals would not have preferences. It just wouldn't matter to anyone who doesn't want to date them. Maybe i just think that because i'm bisexual and i just don't get it.
The virtue signalling ‘allies’ are some of the most aggressive
It's cultish behaviour-!!! 😑
Because they're fighting for change! In the entire history of the world, change never happened because people were meek and patient
@@fulltimeonfire8536 they’re lunatics
And their cause is bullshit.
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The patients are running the asylums at this point. Shes like a smart sounding, confident moron
*This is by far the best and most accurate assessment of the whole gender trans thing I've heard!*
Woke people label this transphobic, I call out this nonsense as being ridiculous . It’s a pity our media doesn’t criticise this delusional stupidity more effectively Instead of giving it a platform to promote their ideology.
Humans are not binary
because she just told you what you wanted to hear??? (you can't deny the fact that gender identity exist -- and that is separate from sex. read an article or two from WHO or something.)
this woman is extremely biased and she never even acknowledged what the other party had to say. is this how a discussion works? i fear tf not.
@@okaywtf2607 No, because what she said was fact. We hear from “the other party” constantly. We hear their attempts to hijack our language and to change the definitions of words. All done in an effort to repeat lies so often that they become truth. The constant misinformation and downright lies. The emotional blackmail around certain statistics relating to the ending of lives. There are (at most) 3 genders. Male, female and intersex and even with intersex there will be a dominant sex. Male and female are determined in nature. No amount of surgical intervention can make a boy a girl or vice versus. It can make you appear as the opposite sex but that appearance is deceptive. You do not become a sex because you choose it. There are masculine girls and feminine boys and that is absolutely beautiful. There is nothing wrong with that! The idea that there’s something wrong and that you need hormone treatments and surgery is outrageous.
@@okaywtf2607 please point out, what she said was untrue or not factual.
I love that she acknowledges that there are also people who don't cause trouble and just want to live a happy life
Those people are still liars
@@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438No they acknowledge their biology and they don't attempt to disrupt women's rights or society.
Those people are to be protected and respected, I've met humble and genuine salt of the earth gay/bi people in my life, been to pride events back when they were events. Loved every interaction I ever had with them. I do feel truly sorry for them because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
they live a lie, a fake life, it would be the same if someone lived on the metaverse 24/7
@@loubieloujones5698So would they be okay being referred to their biological gender as well?
We went from being forced to tolerate it to being forced to celebrate it.
If the only way you'll be tolerant is by force, doesn't that just make you intolerant?
"They want the whole world broken to fit them back into the category they're not" is probably the best way I have heard these people described.
Pay attention to what type of "trans" are causing the divide. it's transvestites/cross dressers. Trouble is, all government establishments are too stupid to tell the difference between the trans types, and they're giving trans privileges to those that don't deserve them.
Yeah, I'm sure it really helps to dishonesty frame your opponents.
@@aaronblygh4719 you're projecting
@@theresagomez2605 What am I projecting?
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others-and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Matthew 19:11-12
It’s now being censored to read something else.
But when they go for gender reassignment, they have TWO choices. 😂
How dare you throw their own contradictions back in their face like that.
Sexual reassignment surgery is to reassign your sexual organs. I know you don’t care about this because you just wanna shit on people who are different but I just wanted to let you know that you’re ignorant and need to find an outlet that helps you mind your own fucking business ❤❤😂🎉❤
We don't. 😘
@@kekokie what's the other options?
Do they? (Notice people are fine using this pronoun when its not culture war related)
As a gay man, this was perfectly said!
They also want to break healthcare, including their own healthcare. I once had a patient who REFUSED to be educated on how to catheterize himself because we couldn't educate someone with a penis on how to clean his labial folds. They'll try to get themselves scheduled for the wrong health screenings, won't consider that they (suppose, a "woman") could have a certain diagnosis (say, "prostate cancer").
@brandonp7503 Because they are delusional
That's bs. Trans people know what body they have
What astonishes me are the women who are 'allies' who denigrate other women. It's a deep shame that we will come to regret eventually.
Selling out other women just to appease men is the hallmark of toxic femininity and most of them are not aware of it.
This is a cliche that needs to die.
But… there are at least 3 sexes just on the face if it. Intersex exists. And trans people exist.
These are the liberal white women who are at the bottom of all the chaos that has occurred in the last 60 years. They are so deeply lost in trying to make all the correct pieces fit into the puzzle, for two reasons I can identify.
One they have no idea what they believe and why. They have grabbed into the moving river of left thinking without realizing it is a constant dynamic movement which has to adjust itself to fit the situation. There is no stability here. This has enormous impact on their lives. We all operate within a framework of belief and when those beliefs are constantly changing and often in conflict it is mentally destabilizing and they must work so hard to maintain structure in their life. Exhausting.
Two, they are so caught living in this false dynamic that they will not admit they are unhappy with the choices they have made as woman. They got so caught up in the struggle for rights they just won’t let go of it because their lives are vapid and empty. They have to have purpose and they walked away from the basic biological purpose. They are lost souls with too much time on their hands.
If we could repurpose these women and tell them that yes they have a right to choose how to live their lives and they have a right to equality but much of what feminists told them was a blanket lie, life in this country would be very different. They do not recognize how much they have been used, like so many other groups that have been fed this victim mentality. Feminism in all its forms is at the root of so many problems. The right has been so demonized in their eyes they refuse to hear women who find purpose and happiness and success inside and outside the family home, they look at them like three headed dogs. Yet all you have to do to prove the point of their unhappiness is look at the prescriptions.
And back in the day the average housewife burning their bras just wanted to have the freedom to choose how to live their life. Crazy.
I agree. I just cannot wrap my head around it.
Shes very articulate and provides a well reasoned statement👏
By overusing the ever-popular "they" (pronouns! :D) and misusing words like "penumbra"?
:D :D :D
Just because shes british doesnt mean shes speaking sense. Nothing she has said is right
@@SaviourInDistress She is spot on.
She comes across as articulate and well-reasoned, but really she's using strawman arguments, misusing terms intentionally to misrepresent other arguments, and appealing to intuition rather than evidence.
@@lawrencebates8172 Which terms did she misuse?
Bravo, Helen Joyce! A mathematician who worked in academia and is now a great campaigner and journalist.
As a gay man. I completely agree with this.
You are a male.
No homosexual is a man.
You're not ACTUALLY gay... you simply haven't met the right woman yet.
As a gay man you’re someone who formed very obviously with some cross sex functions.The way you feel attraction has feminized yet your genital flash and other sex characteristics masculinized,few years ago you where the one persecuted ,the vileness to persecute others.
And as a heterosexual man, I've got your back.
@@craigfowler7098As an asshole this is where I make offensive joke and get kicked off of RUclips
Wow. She just described EVERYTHING PERFECTLY in that statement.
Thats exactly what is happening..
Thought the same. Very well said.
She intentionally misused terminology in order to dismiss any points she disagrees with, and appealed to intuition rather than evidence. That's a pretty bad way of going about describing what's really happening, but a good way of reinforcing the beliefs of those who already agree with you and won't critically analyse what you've said.
@@lawrencebates8172 what terminology did she misuse?
@@hazelnut975Well for one she said “sex” when she should’ve said “gender”. No trans person thinks they can change their sex, they want to change their gender, or rather change their body to more closely match their gender. But sex is biological, literally everyone agrees on that. It’s just that one side deliberately claims sex and gender are the same thing for the sake of the culture war (hint: it’s the conservatives).
Also the whole “allies deny that there are only 2 sexes” thing. Biologically there are more than 2 sexes. Like that’s a fundamental truth, intersex people, people with XXY chromosomes, XXX chromosomes, ect. They all exist, the more accurate statement is “sex is bimodal, most people are XY or XX, although some small deviations exist”.
Like at a fundamental level this video is intellectual junk food. There’s no empirical data or interviews, she’s just running on her feelings. Im so sick of snowflakes like her crying all the time because they get triggered that 0.5% of the population is trans. Like get over it lmfao, trans people exist and facts don’t care about your feelings.
Didnt she just !!!
I worry about how gay rights may be affected because of everything that is going on that has nothing to do with us, and yet we get lumped in. Please recognize that most of us are not looking to invade women’s spaces or deny biology. We just want to live normally and non-intrusively just like everyone else.
It's a shame. Some of these people are really raising up a backlash with their shenanigans.
Wow really... Throw trans people under the bus because you don't wanna a fus kicked up over precious self hating straight bootlicking gay people???
Live normally? Ok. This is a choice they made! I am sorry however no sympathy
this is quite possibly the most articulate and socially appropriate explanation of the undercurrent of the transgender conversation that exists.
This Woman should be on every show to communicate this point clearly so that everyone can be on the same page to start the conversation again
She is brilliantly articulate and has taje the time to think about how to get her message across. I have nothing but admiration for her
This woman is brilliant.
There is no way this small minority of people gets this much public attention without HUGE in-the-shadows support.
Maybe, but in addition to the global resetters who have a far reaching agenda and who have at least up until recently been very direct and explicit about their societal-wide intentions accordingly to the point where at least the last I checked, which admittedly was a while back, were still broadcasting their aims online, who would likely benefit both indirectly and directly, it's merely a matter of following the money insofar who supplies products and services to fulfill the perceived wants and needs of those who have decided to modify their bodies in pursuit of their feelings accordingly as well children's bodies insofar as medications and surgeries, etc.
People don't need to be in the shadows to collude with one another, especially if they both have the money and patience to play the long game and have access to shape children's education curricula.
@@J_The_Colossal_Squid Agreed, it is not so in-the-shadows anymore for those, such as yourself, that take a look. I think that if you believe their is a hierarchy of power, control and access to resources, those at the very top benefit from societies that are more "inclusive" (of everything) so that mass migration illegal and illegal can continue into western countries so the declining populations can be countered so the economies don't shrink and the banking, food and energy industries can continue to grow profits. Something like that.
Or very rich people deciding we should be the scapegoat/distraction of the hour.
@@misha_stupidyttookmynameyep, because attacking immigrants is just out of fashion, or whatever...
@@adish1401 not sure i understand what you mean
Finally, someone who describes the situation perfectly and calmly. Respect.
Respect for what? It's not 'offensive' to claim there are two biological sexs, it's simply scientifically (reality-wise) not true. You only have a binary genetic sex, but look at intersex individuals that have another biological sex appearance than the genetic one may predict. The fact is that biological sex is not binary but much more complex. This is not because of some religious dogma, but because its simply how nature and reality presents itself.
Yes because she is mentally stable and mature unlike the narcissistic "they/them", who whenever make statement on RUclips, talk like kids in nursery, when they have need to belittle someone. You know that kind of "heheee you don't haveeee, what I haveeee, heheeee" and make grimace along that "statement"
Don't you mean someone who says what you think?
@@ExpendableRedshirt You don’t know what I think. I just praised her for stating the facts and doing it calmly. Whether I agree or not is totally irrelevant. As a member of the LGBTQ community, I am tired of emotional lobbyists highjacking the movement and talking in every media in the name of everybody. Those people will set our community back 75 years.
It helps that she didn't have someone interrupting and screaming at her for her views. She was able to present her case with poise and clarity.
i applaud this woman
This woman deserves a larger platform. Most sensible and intelligent talk I've heard in a while.
I am LGBT and totally agree with what she's saying. People have fought hard for their rights and now this gender ideology is ruining it as the people are now beginning to lose respect for LGBT and people who truly are trans because its now being viewed as a label or a fad that a person can change on a whim.
If you are LGB and not T, or even if you are T, I suggest working to drop the T from the group. It's a category error. The inclusion of T is not in the best interest of LGB.
@@aranisles8292 I get what you are saying from a logical perspective, however even when I came out 20 years ago (late 90s) there was already a movement in the community to be open and inclusive with the intention of preventing minorities ( such as trans or intersex people) from feeling vilified and excluded which they were ar the time. However even at that point I noiticed that there were certain trans activists who were more 'militant' with regard to pushing their political agenda.
@@aranisles8292 To be honest the ultra militant political stuff really turned me off and is part of the reason I slowly distanced myself from the community as a same sex attracted female who mostly clicked with gay men but had next to nothing in common with most lesbians who tended to be more masculine oriented. I also had no interest in feminist politics and have never really been involved in the community other than trying to reach out and make social connections when I was single. Now that I am in my 40s I have more important priorities and don't even have time to engage with people socially due to study and work commitments. However I have now come to understand why the 'queer' community will probably never be accepted by the mainstream and its because of these ultra radical political people who have hijacked the movement and will continue to do so. They have created a quagmire due to their fd up ideology that the majority of people just can't relate to.
@@elasroczynski5987 Thank you for replying. Trans people definitely deserve full rights. The problem is not trans people, it's trans or gender ideology, which has an agenda that results in violations of LGB rights and women's rights, men's too. It's the conflation of sex and gender that leads to discrimination against all those groups.
@@aranisles8292 We've been trying to remove the T+ for decades.
They want us to accept them , but they couldn't accept themselves .
What a silly comparison. They couldn’t accept themselves because of their mental instability and gender dysphoria. But You couldn’t accept them because You are a bigot and arrogant. This is the difference between You and Them.
Thiiiiiiiis
Exactly!! They want us to except them BECAUSE they can’t except themselves! A person who is comfortable with who they are will never care what other people think and will never force it.
Do you mean transgender people? You should just accept that they can't align with their sex and move on. Why rage about it and get all angry and try to obstruct their rights? The principle behind it isn't harmful.
They accept themselves as trans. And why would you not accept someone who can't accept themselves?
This lady has summed everything up perfectly. I completely agree with everything she said.
More like she's assumed everything perfectly.
It's the perfect conspiracy theory, no nuance, no middle ground.
Amazing description and choice of words. That's a beautiful way to put everyone's in their place
She is absolutely right. That is the situation.
Helen Joyce is a joy to listen to! Organized ideas, civilized arguments and polite unwillingness to budge on what matters! 🍀💪🏽😻 I wish more people like her!
Helen Joyce is anything but a joy to listen to. The creature is a hateful bigot and so are their ridiculous supporters.
Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic
As a clinical geneticist, Paul James is accustomed to discussing some of the most delicate issues with his patients. But in early 2010, he found himself having a particularly awkward conversation about sex.
A 46-year-old pregnant woman had visited his clinic at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia to hear the results of an amniocentesis test to screen her baby's chromosomes for abnormalities. The baby was fine-but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother's womb. And there was more. One set of cells carried two X chromosomes, the complement that typically makes a person female; the other had an X and a Y. Halfway through her fifth decade and pregnant with her third child, the woman learned for the first time that a large part of her body was chromosomally male. “That's kind of science-fiction material for someone who just came in for an amniocentesis,” says James.
Sex can be much more complicated than it at first seems. According to the simple scenario, the presence or absence of a Y chromosome is what counts: with it, you are male, and without it, you are female. But doctors have long known that some people straddle the boundary-their sex chromosomes say one thing, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) or sexual anatomy say another. Parents of children with these kinds of conditions-known as intersex conditions, or differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs)-often face difficult decisions about whether to bring up their child as a boy or a girl. Some researchers now say that as many as 1 person in 100 has some form of DSD.
Could you be a Chimera?
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Do you know any of her handles? I’d really like to listen to more of what she’s saying.
@@sugar4522 She wrote a book called Trans, when ideology meets reality. She has been doing talks and interviews which I have listened to in RUclips. For instance with unherd.
@@ClannCholmain that's a really fascinating story! Intersex people do exist and are not very rare but most of them are clearly one of the sexes and have some change in development or hormonal profile which makes some features ambiguous. Most of them are not a third sex nor a mixture.
The case you shared is fascinating because it belongs to the extreme rare natural events of a mix. Like hermafrodite. I don't accept the exception should let us stop believing there are two sexes.
It just means there are generally two sexes and some people with different than usual development or genetics
Love Helen Joyce sticking up for women’s rights
A woman of great wisdom!
Love that more and more people are pointing out the "allies" and activists to be the real problem
Right its the allies passing over 400 laws about a small community thats an easy target. High school never ends.
@@user-pi5xo4og9d so they just got up and started passing laws gratuitously?
Oh I know what you'll say. "It was their plan from the start, they're [x]phobic and [slur], and the poor trans "community" "
It's backlash you're facing, but you'll only ever interpret it as undeserved aggression.
@@el7284 the people with hate and fear in their hearts never come out on the right side of history.
Yes, gratuitously. Without medical data to back any of it. Because cruelty is the point.
@@cyrenedomogalla5127 this victim mentality will get you nowhere. The use of terms like "target" and "cruelty" are mere hyperbole, meant to paint a picture that isn't true. Why does the left make it sound like trans people are feeble amoeba ready to explode at the drop of a hat? I believe otherwise.
On the point of medical data: John Money and Kenneth Zucker.
Pretty much the case with just about any activist cause these days.
You just made my day....
Genuine trans women & trans men are suffering resentment caused by radical trans people (I call them Me-Me's), I am not one of those selfish, narcissistic kind.
I'm a 'genuine' trans woman who understands I was born male and will always be male. I will never fully transition to a woman because I physically can never be an adult biological female. I don't use pronouns, I don't expect special treatment, I don't use women's spaces unless invited to by women, I totally disagree with biological males participating in women's sports, etc...
For the above, and because I can define a 'woman', I am outcast from the, now, radicalised LBTQA+/Pride/'woke society' as a transphobe.
I will never be a woman, and I will not steal a woman's identity to selfishly make myself feel better. I am proud to be a trans woman, and I really appreciate being able to live as a trans woman in today's society 😘
I'm curious what you mean when you say that you don't use pronouns?
Stop pretending to not be transphobic while blantently being hatefully spitefully tranphobic
@lawrencebates8172 leave this person alone... you know exactly what is meant... stop bullying.
@@sbethbaker I genuinely don't. This person says that they're a trans women, so I would assume they go by "she/her" if they consider themself to be a woman, but they explicitly say they don't use pronouns. If they're offended by people using any terms other than their name then I'm sorry for using pronouns in this post, if not then I simply don't understand what they mean. Either way, I feel like there's something I'm missing and welcome the education so as not to cause offense.
@lawrencebates8172 my apologies, Lawrence... good example of how it's difficult sometimes to know another's true meaning when discussing/debating in writing. I fell into the trap I know exists... I'm sorry, please forgive me. 🙏🏼
WE NEED A PRIDE MONTH FOR WOMEN WHO LIKE TO BE WOMEN AND MEN WHO LIKE TO BE MEN!!!
Let's just celebrate 24/7/365.
No, we don't need that... We need to put the record straight on this radical and disruptive movements, that want to brake everything! Start for not give them air time, boicote merchandise, forbid pride parades, don't let them change history or education programs, penalize politicians that are "allies" to this agenda full of BS... gender and biology rubbish, race stigma, rewrite history, rewrite books and so on... This people are insane, artificial, autoritarium and want to force disruption... Who is behind this movements? What is the real agenda? Disrupt western society's and divide us all... Divided we are weaker, disruption is conducive to chaos...
Or just have none of this bullshit were all going to die and trying to have a month or a day dedicated to the groups we join is stupid
Thank you Helen Joyce. This is much ado about nothing but it’s taking on offensive dangerous attitudes.
How refreshing to listen to someone with intelligence, speak on this subject
Oh where did you hear that? Cause it wasn’t in that video.
@@feanedhell No, she pretty much nailed it. Her book nails it too. Maybe try getting down with your bad self one day and read it.
@@sosimple3585 from what i saw in the video i expect her book to be the same unsubstantiated drivel of a transphobe. I think i’ll listen to actual experts and not her, a mathematician who became a journalist who thinks she’s somehow educated enough to talk on this subject. She’s clearly not.
@@feanedhell If you're mind's made up then you've got nothing to lose by giving it a try. The worst that can happen is you fail to escape a regressive, misogynistic, and homophobic cult.
@@feanedhell You need to point out what was wrong in the presentation. Otherwise, you risk looking like a non-thinking troll.
Very well put and entirely without hatred. Anyone who sees hatred in her perfectly sensible and reasoned argument is irrational. And my patience for irrational people is quite thin.
You must hate yourself then, you live in a fairytale delusional world.there are only TWO SEXES,and go for the children you have crossed a line.
Same 😁👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
I guess it is entirely without hatred that she is saying that everyone who disagrees with her want to destroy everything.
@@PhylaetraWell, yes. It is not hatred. She’s just stating a fact. Saying what is the root of the problem here so you all can hopefully do something about it and fix it.
@@Drud so - you believe that _everyone_ who disagrees with her wants to 'destroy everything'. Get rid of civil rights for gay people, eliminate public schools?
But - that's not being hateful, that is just 'stating the root of the problem'...
You actually believe that one can say such hateful things about those they disagree with but not actually hate them?
I love this woman. This needs to go viral.
I think you should go out more.
The Dark Knight said it best, " Some men just want to see the world burn."
She is so clear and succinct in this argument and so phenomenally well spoken she brings sanity back into these issues. Keep fighting for women Helen… thank you!!!
Not only is there nothing but baseless opinion here she gets the terminology all wrong. No one is arguing that sex isn't bimodal.
@@cyrenedomogalla5127She was perfectly clear and succinct in her points which I agree. The word bimodal was not used by her nor is it a word anyone uses to describe anything pertaining to the human body and it’s attributes.
Bimodal, as in to have two modes. My dear, I think you need to unplug and go outside and take a walk on the grass barefoot… 🤦♀️
This woman is beyond brilliant. She nailed it, spot on!
This is put perfectly. My sister is an "ally" which I believe is largely due to her poor mental health and her need to be loved by everyone but mostly strangers. She knows our love is guaranteed so she doesn't need to try for us, but friends and strangers she'd take a bullet for.
Please read Eric Hoffer’s magnum opus The True Believer for a brilliant profile of these people and the psychological underpinnings that drive them to escape from themselves through fanatic adherence to mass movements like the trans agenda.
Calm, rational and full of common sense
Well laid out points …. That are unfortunately true
And ‘allies’ of groups can often be far more vicious than anybody else
Cannot argue with logic. She speaks logic which is a very rare language today.
This is an opinion through and through, this is not logic. There are no facts here other than we dont like the way this group lives and therefore we must regulate them to be more like the whole.
she doesn't actually... trans talk aside..we know since decades ago that sex isn't binary...
@@Strawberries1994you are arguing two things here. Science knows sex isn’t binary but we also know sex is binary in humans. That is a fact.
@@chrisknowles6582 sex is not binary in humans.. Have you ever heard of intersex people?? There's a lot female and male traits combinations... not even chromosomes are reliable, you can have physical female traits and "male" chromosomes...
Reproduction is binary, you need the two reproductive systems, yes...sex is not, sex englobes a lot more than only your genitals, and even speaking about genitals intersex people exist
You can argue with the premise that she put in. For example her definition of sex and gender is not very good, and her assumption about motivation is bad, so her implied conclusions are wrong.
As a gay man, fully agree with EVERYTHING she's saying and stating.
As a bisexual woman i agree. I like manly men, and femenine woman. You have no idea how often i get screamed at because im not into transwoman or transmen. Or lesbians that fit more into a masculine section.because they think, the fact i like both has to mean that i fuck whatever, and dont have prefrences. 🤦♀️
No one’s claiming there are more than two sexes, generally. Although it’s a fact intersex is a thing. The major claim is there’s a difference between sex and gender expression. Which I think is true.
@@thebreadtable4880 no
They say sex is not tje same as gender. Q Not gender expression.
The way you formed it it sounds like sex and gender is the same. How come tjey claim that there are over 72 genders .
If no one is claiming there are only 2 sexes. Why is it so important for men to go into the womans bathrooms or locker rooms?
I bet All this gender crap winds everyone up. Not just me
@@MichelleLouiseDavis what are you talking about. Give up my gender?????
I feel so glad someone is talking about "sexes" and not genres.
I listened carefully to two gay colleagues a while ago. They really are ‘upset’ by the tensions caused by this trans movement and think schools are sending the wrong messages to kids.
That's because the whole trans thing is very anti-gay.
If someone feels like the opposite gender and wants to present that way I have no problem with them ❤ the problem indeed is when people demand we restructure society to cater to their every want
How is acknowledging trans people exist restructuring society? You mean like the sports teams stuff? I'd hardly call that all of society.....
@@cyrenedomogalla5127 Restructuring the English language is a society-wide project.
@@cyrenedomogalla5127some literally think they can get pregnant and carry a child. And many other bs they think their entitled to have
@@cyrenedomogalla5127when it comes to our speech?? Or how about letting them ruin women’s sports and spaces. Oh and I know all the teachers who lose their jobs across the US who simply won’t lie to their students or keep vital information from parents. 🙄🙄 it’s all disgusting.
@@laurab972im in new zealand we just had teacher dimiissed from teaching bcs they refused to accept someones gender,
The most intelligent way I have ever heard this whole topic explained by anyone. Wonderful
Problem is the things that allies want according to her are mostly made up by right wing media outlets
As an old school Leftie - i agree with everything this WOMAN is saying!
I think you should go out more.
Please tell me, old school leftie, is someone with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome a woman in your opinion?
Damn! This woman not only has figured it out, she expressed the truth so well.
She nailed it, in few words, very concise and clear to follow
I think it's also important to point out that these "allies" are also destroying trans rights. The radicalisation of the politicisation of this issue comes as a direct push back from these people.
"You can't have sexual orientation without sex." Yep.
Thank you ! For once someone who says that trans people do not all think the same !
No we do we're a hive mind wdym. The council demands a sacrifice
@@themontageofscafell5512 sorry I don't understand what you wrote. Can you try again, I'm not native English speaker
@@edouardomaindargent7685 It's a joke don't worry. Basically said, sarcastically, all trans people think the same thing
Absolutely. When did we start getting confused. It seems like it happened overnight.
Extremely well summarised. Reality does not fit their emotional state so they want to break reality to make it conform with that emotional state.
That is why we are being told to ignore reality!
The only people ignoring reality are the ones that insist there are only two sexes 😂😂 take a quick look at genetics why don't you. Trans people don't deny their sex, none of them, they are painfully aware of it. This shit is made up, propaganda bullshit. No one denies their sex, there are more than two sexes, and most importantly SEX DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. You can be gay by being in love with the same gender, to say that being gay depends on biological sex is in fact the homophobic viewpoint. This woman is saying that if a man dates a trans man he is not gay, how is that not homophobic. Women's rights are completely unaffected by trans women and children's education is woefully devoid of gender discussions.
Been sayin it for decades now. Can we get more Mental Health support for the people... please?
We need more people like you, please stay strong. I am with you and there are many more l am sure of it we just don't want to get involved, because these people are scary.
They are absolutely miserable and want to be appeased by making the world just as miserable.
OMG truer words were never spoken! 💯
100%!!! Watching everything LGBT has fought for over the years being undone by this madness is heartbreaking.
its odd to think that people think that trans people are destroying the rights of the Lgbt community and not the people that are actively calling for their eradication.
Helen Joyce is a giant of our time. Thank you for your work
This is the best explanation of what is going on nowadays that I have ever heard. This woman is so completely right!
Finally, someone who can articulate the mess that is going on.
What bothers me most is when they ask what is a woman there is only one answer to that all the people on this planet have a mother and that is the answer
What a remarkably silly comment. To say that people have mothers obviously doesn't answer the question at all. "Woman" and "mother" are not synonyms. There are lots of women who are not mothers. I think you know that, really.
@@omp199 The fact that there are women who don't have children is irrelevant. What is relevant is that every single person on Earth *has* a mother. There is no person on Earth who doesn't have a mother, or a father for that matter. The male parent is a man and the female parent is a woman. Women are people who are biologically designed to have children. Whether they have them or not makes no difference.
@@janegardener1662 If the question is, "What is a woman?" then the fact that every single person on Earth has a mother is *obviously* irrelevant. You as good as admit it in your last sentence:
"Whether [women] have [children] or not makes no difference."
That's what I'm saying. Your own final sentence is the point that I was making.
@@omp199 Is your mother a woman?
@@omp199 your logic can be just as easily refuted by saying that not all women are mothers, but all mothers are biological women.
The reality is sex is not a spectrum and mammalian sexual dimorphism means that you produce, and your body is shaped for the production of either a large or small gamete (ova/sperm).
There is no third gamete , and masculine/feminine behavior is in no way exclusive to either sex, but there are patterns whether you like it or not on the behavioral and personality differences between male and female.
The very argument you’re making undermines homosexuality, because if im a bigot/wrong for not being attracted to a trans man ( biological woman ) then by your logic, conversion therapy is absolutely plausible
I was hospitalized recently and my name on the white board was “Mr Fox”. I told them to erase the “Mr” because I didn’t play the pronoun game. If visitors couldn’t figure me out with my gray hair, heavy beard and a deep voice - whether I was a male or female fox then that was their problem. They asked me if I wanted to use a custom introduction and I said “yes”. My name is “the soon to be discharged and enjoy home once again” Fox.
Mr and Mrs are now woke 💀
@@techyn8502 Not sure what you mean but a day after I declared myself “soon to be discharged and enjoying the comforts of home again” I was, indeed, discharged home. Ah, to again enjoy the creature comforts of home following a 3.5 week hospital stay - ecstatic! As to “woke” - I’ve been awake for well > 60 years in a Constitutionally conservative manner. I still don’t play the silly pronoun game. It’s about the stupidest waste of taxpayers time and money I think I’ve heard of in all my years on this earth. We are very fortunate to have a very secure and widely transmissible language with standards that everyone agrees upon. If someone decides to deny agreed upon standards of communication, then, to hell with them when someone else refuses to play along.
@@slypperyfox "Mr." and "Mrs." are titles. They are not pronouns. They have been in use for centuries, since long before this "gender" nonsense started, and they are as much a part of the English language as anything else. What is your objection to them?
“Fanaticism can often be a normalized phenomenon, and the unwritten recipe suggests that it starts and ends with absolute certainty. If you are always certain about everything, you might just live in an echo chamber, or there might be a lack of ideological diversity among your sources and friends. Only, there is no size limit to this echo chamber as long as there is consensus: and the bigger the chamber the more solidified the fanaticism, and the more solidified the fanaticism the more the outlier will be seen the liar and the fanatic.”
― Criss Jami, Healology
"Physician, heal thyself."
--- New Testament
Wow, this is the most clear and concise synthesis of what is happening with trans activism that I’ve heard.
“You are your body.” Dr Helen Joyce
I’m a lesbian and I agree with this lady full 100
Incredibly well said!
The calm and intelligent voice of reason! Thank you!!❤
I always love when people opposed to something tell me what the other side thinks in great detail.
She is 100% right!!
Well said. I also think that transvestites and autogenephilics are entirely different from people who have gender dysphoria. That distinction should be brought into the light.
Yes, they certainly are. The literature is clear on this distinction. It does need to be validated and taught openly, however. The repercussions from conflating sexual paraphilias, unbelievably rare mental health issues, and just blatant narcissism are clear, hence the current mess we're in.
I said that at work, and was fired over it lol. I was trying to prevent predator men from sleeping in the same shared room as my domestic violence victims in our shelter.
I mentioned autogynophilia and sub groups
If I hear another trans elation of bullshit I think. I'll brafffffff. This woman speaks sense. This agenda is about the very distruction of the human race. Allow it at your own peril
She is absolutely 💯 correct
Absolutely spot on. It is the activists who want to change everything, most ‘trans’ people just want to get on with their lives.
I graduated highschool in 2016. I *loved* my highschool biology classes, and frankly they gave me a better "sex education" than anything else in the whole public system just by exploring in detail the male and female reproduction systems (including pregnancy and lactation).
Now just eight years later, I wonder if it is still even possible to teach these courses and what kind of attack my wonderful biology teachers might be facing. All because a vocal minority has decided that the very reality of the human body should be considered "offensive" and "exclusionary."
Honestly, I sometimes think that the whole woke and trans agenda is ssatanic. I believe that we were made in God's image and made explicitly male or female, and this movement is hell bent on confusing us about our own bodies and encouraging mentally unwell people to sterilize and mutilate themselves.
"Honestly, I sometimes think that the whole woke and trans agenda is ssatanic." OK, honestly, is this a *parody?* :D :D :D It's so hard to tell anymore. :D :D (Cut to something about--- "mentally unwell people"... :D :D :D)
"Now just eight years later, I wonder if it is still even possible to teach these courses and what kind of attack my wonderful biology teachers might be facing." *Teacher* here. I KNOW EXACTLY who's trying to attack me and my profession in *my country.* I know exactly who's trying to make my job harder. And it ain't drag queens, trans people, or trans activists, whomever or wherever they might be. (I haven't heard one of them try to THREATEN me.)
"All because a vocal minority has decided that the very reality of the human body should be considered 'offensive' and 'exclusionary.'" That is literally what *Bible-thumping right-wingers* have been doing in America--- since before the Eighties. No, seriously, is this a parody account, or--- are things really that different in Europe?? :D :D
Anyhoo, nothing says rock-solid mental health like obsessively PARROTING the idea that some "woke people" are SATANISTS out ta get ya...!!! :D :D :D
I think you hit the target🎯
There is no satan and there is no god.
I genuinely don't think it's productive to discuss sex in the context of gender identity, but I'm curious what you think God is getting up to every time a person is born intersex...
lol
gender and sex are two different things
Well said! We need more people to speak up like this!
What are you on about? There's no shortage of transphobic content.
@@Serpent0fEdenreality is transphobic then
@@Serpent0fEden reality is not transphobic. Reality just is. But some people may be reality-phobic and strive to drag everyone into their delusional phobic world.
@@hsmd4533 you need to open your eyes if you think what he'd putting forward is reality.
@@SkyDiver-wd5oj I'd suggest looking into biology above a high school level...
My favourite Irishwoman spitting straight facts
Wonderfully eloquent. It is refreshing to hear the truth. It has been lost for far too long!
The most elegant summary I've heard. Bravo!
It’s called REAL traditional trans people
Vs modern cultural Marxist’s screaming for attention and control.
She speaks the truth 100%.
She really doesn’t. It’s the same old tired transphobia we’ve been hearing for a while. Just made up stuff with no proofs or arguments.
She's not. She's confusing sexes with genders.
@@aydinbiber7616You are confusing sex and gender. They are the same thing. And you fall for this pseudo gender knowledge which basically render gender as a behavior.
@@aydinbiber7616sex and gender are the same thing
Wow!!! This lady is awesome!!! I think she’s the best person to talking about this problem!!! I can’t stop listening at her!!!
The best description of what is going on these days on this issue I've heard. Well done!
She should be a carpenter with the way she hit that nail on the head.
She forgot to mention the gender grifters looking for Fame/Money/Affirmation/POWER!!!
The point she is getting across is that those who are complaining all the time don't speak for all of us, which is very true, much like everything in life!
She is so right it’s embarrassing
That is so true. This lady summed it up brilliantly👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Except that she used the wrong terminology and accused "allies" of denying that we have bimodal sexes. Except they aren't. Sex isn't binary. But it is bimodal. Lot of mojo Jojo talk that sounds nice for reinforcing biases here
@@cyrenedomogalla5127 Reproduction is based on the presence of enough functioning males and functioning females to ensure the survival of a population. The survival of a population doesn't hinge on how any specific individual feels about his or her sexuality or gender identitly. It survives on reproduction. In order to function reproductively, there must be males and there must be females, and that is literally all that is required.
@@janegardener1662 Do you honestly think that the 0.1% to 0.6% of people who identify as trans are making any sort of dent on the human breeding population?
@@voodoominerman What's that got to do with anything? I literally don't care about how they perceive themselves. It's none of my business, but they're making it my business by telling me how I must refer to them in emails. They're humans, their grammatical number is "one" and therefore they will get singular pronouns from me.
@@janegardener1662 "Reproduction is based on the presence of enough functioning males and functioning females to ensure the survival of a population."
This is the point *you* chose to start with. This is what you decided was the most important thing to mention. If it's not important, why did you mention it in the first place?
"They're humans, their grammatical number is "one" and therefore they will get singular pronouns from me."
The terms they/them are *already* used to refer to singular people of indeterminate gender. Have you honestly never heard someone say something along the lines of "I'd love to meet your friend, I've heard so much about *them*"?
They are clearly talking about a singular entity in this sentence, one whose gender has not been specified. That being the case, it seems perfectly sensible to use they/them as a pronoun for people whose gender is essentially "no".
She is exactly correct
Usually if I talk negatively about the LGBT+ community, its these "allies" who are at the forefront of my thoughts.
I'm what a call a genuine trans woman and she's so right xx
There are two sexes.
Yes. Reasonable people know that..
Except for 1% of population who are intersex.
@@ang5035 intersex people are still male or female. Also, it has nothing to do with men identifying as woman.
And more than one animal that can change their sex depending on whats going on in the environment.
Other animals are gay. Its in nature but we like to like like we're apart.
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We aren't animals and we CANT naturally change gender.. We are born Male ( penis) female ( vagina).
Protect this woman at all costs
is she a woman, he doesnt even know
Hellen Joyce is out of this world awesome!!!
How are they destroying women's rights, gay children's rights, chikdren's education?
Those are just made up to justify their attacks on trans people.
This is a beautiful statement and perfectly also highlights the issues we in the LGB community face being denied our sexual orientation when it's already hard to come out.
Imagine gender just mattered less in society. If it was normalized that people fall in love with people not genitals. Doesn't mean individuals would not have preferences. It just wouldn't matter to anyone who doesn't want to date them. Maybe i just think that because i'm bisexual and i just don't get it.
Wow. She just nailed the truth about Trans Gender Women. So spot on I'm a bit blown away and teary eyed. 😊❣️
This is the clearest, cleanest explanation I have ever heard of this situation.
Helen Joyce is a top speaker on this topic and her book is excellent too.
From childhood I always identified as a rich person. I'm still waiting for the world to give me my wealth.