nice interpretation of that stroybook. In the 1990's we try to find out what Talhofer, Wassmannsdorf and Dürer means, and what comes next. We took Lichtenauer, Gracci and John Silver who got better instuctions. Also we got Pekiti Tirsia as agood background. We got almost the same result like you guys in the video. Well done guys, like it much
Yes! Exactly! Big thumbs up :) I think the genius of Fiore is not so much the techniques, ( which are however very good) but the presentation as a continuous system of linked techniques with each technique informing the ones that come after across every important weapon group. You did a great job of showing this and the presentation is excellent. Thank you.
That he had, the most effective techniques are always later, it reads like a continuous development. For example, most Tor techniques are slow finishers, likewise cross handed dagger techniques are quite telegraphed... This is the main difference between Talhoffer or Lichtenauer and this. These older ones are more flow-based compared to this which looks like "a surprising secret technique the opponent might be unable to respond to".
Thanks for making a video showcasing how all of Fiore's work is a coherent system. You spared me a lot of work in showing exactly that. Even more, thanks for using that specific technique. For sheer chance is now known by the person to whom I'm showing Fiore's work. That makes it even easier for me. Owe you not one but two. (edited for dyslexia-worthy typo)
Thank you so much for these! Although, I think softer and more ambient background music would be more pleasing, however it's a matter of preference! High quality work!
Beautiful video. I have not studied Fiore, but I find much the same recurrent system applied across weapons in Liechtenauer's heritage as well. These works are truly fascinating. Well done!
Sword Carolina thank you very much. This point of view is valid not only for Fiore but, on the whole, comparing other codices. In our school we study both Italian treaties (especially Fiore) and German treaties, to make a comparative work to find differences and similarities. Since there are few sources of the medieval period, we think this is a good method of "cross check". We hope to cross blades with you, in near future! Thank you again.
Another video about some techniques of Fiore Dei Liberi. A special thanks to Leo, for his valuable help. • Un altro nostro video sulle tecniche di Fiore Dei Liberi. Regia Turris per imparare le Arti Marziali Storiche Europee [HEMA] - Scherma Storica Pordenone.
While I appreciate the stark black and white of this video as an aesthetic choice, the high contrast coupled with a lot of bulky padding making seeing some these these techniques harder than they might otherwise be, particularly the early ones with knife and or empty hands. I know wearing big gloves is desirable for sparring and maybe even drilling in a club setting, but surely in a controlled video by two people who know what they're doing they're not necessary?
Hi, (sorry for my language...) Your two handed sword are blunted and flex for HEMA practice? They look great (same design than manual) and i search one for pratice Fiore longsword like yours... can you tell me where i can find one of them please ?
Hi +Jeremy M, in this video we use two-handed swords replicas, no "Feder", no flexible blade (the model is Italian "Stocco" of the Fifteenth Century), the manufacturer is the great *Fulvio Del Tin* (www.deltin.net/home.htm). Further details of the sword at 4:56
Of course, because when you perform this technique you are not in front of your opponent, but slightly to to the side. Remember that, more of your opponent's arms are extended, more easily you'll turn him by pushing him on the elbow.
+ISureDoLikeCats We do this all of the time in other Martial Arts which tend to work in close quarters - it's prevalent in both Filipino and Chinese Systems, but can be seen in all kinds of arts. And yes, it's quite easy to turn someone from the elbow (or any where above the joint) if you understand position, leverage, and what we would refer to as the centerline. You have to be close enough and have a solid stance, though. It won't work if you're leaning forward, and are too far away, or if the elbow that you're trying to press is too far off center - in which case you won't have the leverage and the opponent can easily power through. As with all things in the Martial Arts - it works if you know how to do it, and have the opportunity to apply it. It doesn't work if you don't understand how it works, or try to apply it in the wrong situation where the opportunity isn't present, or if you apply it with the wrong timing.
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Short version, when in doubt push the elbow to open up your opponent's guard.
nice interpretation of that stroybook. In the 1990's we try to find out what Talhofer, Wassmannsdorf and Dürer means, and what comes next.
We took Lichtenauer, Gracci and John Silver who got better instuctions. Also we got Pekiti Tirsia as agood background.
We got almost the same result like you guys in the video.
Well done guys, like it much
beautiful work
Yes! Exactly! Big thumbs up :) I think the genius of Fiore is not so much the techniques, ( which are however very good) but the presentation as a continuous system of linked techniques with each technique informing the ones that come after across every important weapon group. You did a great job of showing this and the presentation is excellent. Thank you.
Fast. Straightforward. Simple. Effective. Love it! Subscribed!
What else? Thank you! :)
This video is amazing and the fiore techniques are so cool
Elbow push, works every time.
Maybe Fiore always had many aces up his sleeve!
That he had, the most effective techniques are always later, it reads like a continuous development. For example, most Tor techniques are slow finishers, likewise cross handed dagger techniques are quite telegraphed... This is the main difference between Talhoffer or Lichtenauer and this. These older ones are more flow-based compared to this which looks like "a surprising secret technique the opponent might be unable to respond to".
I applaud your research into the system behind the techniques.
Ben Smith , we thank you for your appreciation.
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Amazing Maestro! Thanks for sharing
Seeing it like this makes it so much easier to understand. Great work!
Thanks for making a video showcasing how all of Fiore's work is a coherent system. You spared me a lot of work in showing exactly that.
Even more, thanks for using that specific technique. For sheer chance is now known by the person to whom I'm showing Fiore's work. That makes it even easier for me.
Owe you not one but two.
(edited for dyslexia-worthy typo)
Thank you for your appreciation. We are happy that our work has been useful to you.
Thank you so much for these!
Although, I think softer and more ambient background music would be more pleasing, however it's a matter of preference!
High quality work!
Beautiful video. I have not studied Fiore, but I find much the same recurrent system applied across weapons in Liechtenauer's heritage as well. These works are truly fascinating. Well done!
Sword Carolina thank you very much. This point of view is valid not only for Fiore but, on the whole, comparing other codices. In our school we study both Italian treaties (especially Fiore) and German treaties, to make a comparative work to find differences and similarities. Since there are few sources of the medieval period, we think this is a good method of "cross check". We hope to cross blades with you, in near future! Thank you again.
Another video about some techniques of Fiore Dei Liberi. A special thanks to Leo, for his valuable help. • Un altro nostro video sulle tecniche di Fiore Dei Liberi. Regia Turris per imparare le Arti Marziali Storiche Europee [HEMA] - Scherma Storica Pordenone.
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Grazie, cerchiamo di fare del nostro meglio.
Sehr gut, das ist schön!
While I appreciate the stark black and white of this video as an aesthetic choice, the high contrast coupled with a lot of bulky padding making seeing some these these techniques harder than they might otherwise be, particularly the early ones with knife and or empty hands. I know wearing big gloves is desirable for sparring and maybe even drilling in a club setting, but surely in a controlled video by two people who know what they're doing they're not necessary?
Great video! Well done!
Thanks!
Veramente grandi!
Grazie, troppo gentile.
Excellent ! At 2:15 . Who does the music please ? .
I want more my dear friends
What is the song playing in this video?
Hi, (sorry for my language...)
Your two handed sword are blunted and flex for HEMA practice?
They look great (same design than manual) and i search one for pratice Fiore longsword like yours... can you tell me where i can find one of them please ?
Hi +Jeremy M, in this video we use two-handed swords replicas, no "Feder", no flexible blade (the model is Italian "Stocco" of the Fifteenth Century), the manufacturer is the great *Fulvio Del Tin* (www.deltin.net/home.htm). Further details of the sword at 4:56
Is it really that easy to turn somebody around just by pushing an arm or an elbow?
Of course, because when you perform this technique you are not in front of your opponent, but slightly to to the side. Remember that, more of your opponent's arms are extended, more easily you'll turn him by pushing him on the elbow.
+ISureDoLikeCats You are redirecting your opponents forward inertia and energy .
+ISureDoLikeCats We do this all of the time in other Martial Arts which tend to work in close quarters - it's prevalent in both Filipino and Chinese Systems, but can be seen in all kinds of arts. And yes, it's quite easy to turn someone from the elbow (or any where above the joint) if you understand position, leverage, and what we would refer to as the centerline. You have to be close enough and have a solid stance, though. It won't work if you're leaning forward, and are too far away, or if the elbow that you're trying to press is too far off center - in which case you won't have the leverage and the opponent can easily power through. As with all things in the Martial Arts - it works if you know how to do it, and have the opportunity to apply it. It doesn't work if you don't understand how it works, or try to apply it in the wrong situation where the opportunity isn't present, or if you apply it with the wrong timing.
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3 wards with 1 defence.
3 Strikes with 1 ward. Sorry, I myself practice Talhoffer, We have different wording.