Fiore's techniques I - Regia Turris
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- Some our interpretations of Fiore dei Liberi's techniques (from Ms. Ludwig XV 13 · J. Paul Getty Museum) among wich "Porta di ferro mezana" and "Colpo di villano". Regia Turris - Historical Fencing School - Pordenone, Italy.
Alcune nostre interpretazioni di tecniche di Fiore dei Liberi (tratte dal codice Ms. Ludwig XV 13 · J. Paul Getty Museum) tra cui "Porta di ferro mezana" e "Colpo di villano". Regia Turris - Scuola di scherma Storica - Pordenone, Italia.
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And that's why "do a Fiore" means "kick him in the nads" in many reenactment circles.
apprezzo anche questo video, molto simile e chiaro come l'altro. (y)
Great video, it's awesome to see Fiore's manuals come to life. It still amazes me that, for so many years, with all the work historians do, they somehow just "didn't notice" these fascinating texts, but yet they endlessly debate so many other aspects of life in the past. How well a people fought determined how influential their ideas/culture was, and whether or not they continued to exist--pretty important stuff if you ask me.
Thank you! Indeed as you know, the study and practice of western martial arts are "young" disciplines. In this sphere, researchers are useful as practitioners.
They just like to assume. Thomas Asbridge, who wrote some great books on the Crusades, which I thoroughly enjoyed, despite his description of the European sword as a "Bludgeoning tool". It was very amusing when he was presenting a documentary about Sir William Marshall, and in the process of filming got to handle his sword from the Wallace collection and was stunned by how light and well balanced it was, hopefully that will teach historians to research things a bit more next time.
+Regia Turris My Apache ancestors would disagree with you . My respect sent .
A job well done. from this video you can clearly understand these techniques. thank you!
In the first Zhogo Largo play, your cover from tutta porta di ferro is more of a windshield-wiper move, rather than a fendente. In this controlled environment, it seems to work fine, but I believe if you test it in free-form sparring, you'll find it's better to make the cover with a fendente to posta breve. At least then, if your timing is off, or the opponent feints his blow, he will still have to deal with your point. If you stick with the windshield-wiper technique, a timing issue could leave you uncovered with your sword pointing off to your left. I don't know if that makes sense.... it's easier to demonstrate than to explain in writing. I enjoyed the video!
First video of yours I have seen. Certainly earned my subscription!
Very kind of you, thanks.
Bravi! Nonostante non condivida alcune interpretazioni (il verso della mano nel gioco 1 e la contraria al gioco 2), il video é molto curato. Apprezzo il vostro contributo e attendo nuovi video :)
In the description of the iron gate Fiore wrote to step (Getty code) or steps (code Morgan) is not written that needs to go out of the way, this is an interpretation that all of us give today. We made the video using the guards that Fiore indicates that they are safe, from which you can well defend against many blows. The glosses themselves do not mention from what guard start, so this is our interpretation. The same action can be done by several guards. We invite you to test you too.
good interpretations!
congratulations on a job well done, nice work!
Good!
Congratulations on the video, very interesting for the study about "Fiore De Liberi". I'd like to deepen more "Zogho Largo2" .. Viele Grüße!
Very nice!
Thank you for sharing our work, we hope it may be interesting for someone.
Actually we don't use garters. That wasn't a fight but just to show some of the techniques, according to our interpretation.
Nice video!
Carino... regia ottima, belli i rallenty... anche se non si vedevano i piedi. Rimane certo che meno si rimane fissati alle belle poste e dando più dinamismo al Flos si ottiene una scherma ottima, molto semplice e concreta. Vorrei vedere altri video così...
Grazie dell'apprezzamento e delle tue osservazioni che in parte capisco. Peraltro ne ho già discusso anche con Jacopo. Ci sono molti argomenti su cui poterci confrontare, ma sarebbe meglio farlo di persona. Probabilmente potremo farlo al vostro torneo :)
“...Secondly the kick, I thought went to the groin, it seems a little high here...”
We wanted to see what happens if kick groin the opponent moves back, the leg continues go up because there is no contact. Please try it and check it also in your gym.
“...The sword blade grab in the picture shows thumb down and you show it thumb up, I always found that awkward and the one shown in the picture more easy to do...”
The lacrosse gloves with wrist protection sometimes restrict the correct grip of the sword. Check as well.
no, sorry, I meant in the garter depicted in the fiore plate you show. I thought the garter indicated the "winner' of the technique.
I've seen other interpretations of the kick counter where the foot is caught rather than deflected. But i think your interpretation is better. Seems more effective to me.
Thrown Sword Pommel Some of that is based on measure, the kick was thrown too far away to be a legit attack so brushing it aside was more effective. At closer measure that gets trickier.
what are you doing in HEMA right is that step to opponent right or left side other martial arts is really lack of it, because if you take notice that in most martial arts, most people move just forward and back...
well i just can advice to study all manuscripts from bio-mechanics perspective and later try to repeat some movements with other weapons or even in fight without weapons for example in wrestling...
You must be kidding about sabre footwork, it is both linear and side footwork in at least what is known of British and Polish sabre. Not to mention older styles, which used crab-like low footwork.
Nice Video! Just a few points. My Italian is not so good but does it not say when defending in Iron gate that the front foot moves a little out of the way then the back foot passes diagonally, to the left in this case? Secondly the kick, I thought went to the groin, it seems a little high here? The sword blade grab in the picture shows thumb down and you show it thumb up, I always found that awkward and the one shown in the picture more easy to do. Keep doing videos. channel: Fioredeiliberi
The garter indicates who does the action, not who wins. If you have a good translation of Fiore, please read the glosses, sometimes they can explain the plates.
i agree, but what about the garter? Doesn't that indicate the other combatant is successful in that engagement? Nice counter, though.
I'm struggling to pick out the last play in Getty - which section is it in?
It looks like he *may* be kicking the side of his opponents left leg.
Oi, at 1:42 why do you disengage your hand from the sword to push him? Why not drop the sword down a little bit turning the pommel on a slight angle so it can slide past his leg, push his leg around and come down for the attack? Less movement, and your head isn't vulnerable to his blade, as it's covering him and you the whole time.
You are right, but this video shows the reconstruction of some techniques from the "Getty Code" by Fiore dei Liberi.
The techniques are described in the manuscript.
Regia Turris Oh okay. I'm sorry! I'm not accustomed to HEMA nor European manuscripts, I was legit asking out of curiosity because I'm quite ignorant on the subject. Either way, keep making videos like this :)!
2:20 I have seen that in Kenjutsu too.
i'd say that's because there's only a number of effective techniques possibile while 2-handing a sword, so they will look similar in some ways.
It is one of the most basic things you can do with a sword. Probably the No. 1 block-hit combination with a curved sabre.
interessante gioco largo 2