He didn’t directly steal jokes verbatim per se - but he did rip off Bill Hicks’ routine of being pro drug, pro smoking, pro swearing, and being very anti establishment and anti government - along with developing many of Hicks’ cadences and mannerisms - some of Hicks concepts were taken but it wasn’t word for word copying what Hicks said - but if you watch a handful of Bill Hicks’ stand ups, and then watch Leary’s “No Cure For Cancer” you will be quite blown away and think to yourself “Yeah, yeah he totally ripped off Hicks….” That doesn’t remove the fact that Leary is a good entertainer and he’s definitely the person that he acts like on stage - he isn’t selling a fake persona; he just saw what worked for one comedian and presented himself in a very similar way due to the fact that he wanted the credit of being that type of comedian and wanted to target a specific type of audience….
@@talynstarburst2l2l2l Yes. The thing that bothers Hicks so much was the fact that he had already established the on stage character or person he was playing for his stand up presentations and Leary had sort of adapted a lot of Hicks’ style. There was a point that Hicks became resentful of Leary and stopped talking to him - he felt Leary took much of his mannerisms and subjects and a lot of his style and implemented it into his standup and didn’t do those parts on his own; Hicks felt they were copied and Leary started to go do shows alone and make a name for himself without Hicks in the picture. Hicks did not only feel insulted but he was also hurt that Leary who was a writing partner and buddy of his would take those cadences to the stage and take credit for the standup act as if it was his own….
It's debatable. The jokes themselves are technically different (and not as clever,) but it's more a matter of him having adopted Bill's whole style and covered all the same subject matter.
No, He talked about smoking in a different manner than Hicks. Hicks persona was laconic and laid back and Leary's was manic. The only joke overlap was the comment about Jim Fixx but that was an observation about Jim Fixx dying while jogging made by about 50% of the American population.
@@MrsRosencranz1 It’s called stealing premises, honey. I thought I was clever by listening to Denis Leary too, then I heard Bill do the same bits but recorded years earlier so now I consider Denis Leary a hack. You ever notice the amount of material Denis DIDNT release after Bill died? It’s not a coincidence. ;)
Reminds me of the old joke, "Why is Denis Leary a rich & successful movie star and Bill Hicks a relatively obscure cult comedian? Because there is No Cure For Cancer." LOL
You think maybe Leary's people at FX heard about this and offered to give Louis a show b/c they felt bad? Notice Louie followed 'Rescue Me' when it debuted.
If you "don't think Leary ripped off" anyone, you clearly refuse to just search "Denise Leary Steals" and watch the overwhelming evidence. Hick's never RIPPED OFF word for word a joke of Lenny Bruce the way that Leary blatantly recited Bill's act. Hick's was the first to point out his admiration for Bruce and his style just like Carlin, but Leary straight wrote down and recited other comedian's act.
They were friends and went off of each other's material. If the roles were reversed and Hicks made it big instead, people would say that he stole from Leary.
It never made sense to me that Dennis Leary came up with Asshole, and then wasn't really funny or good afterward. Now it makes perfect sense. He's at his best when he's stealing jokes from better comedians.
Speaking as someone who's done stand-up for years, I can tell you how protective comedians can be of their routines, and if someone so much as dares to repeat their jokes, they become livid and hateful their whole career. Louis is a diamond in the rough, and he's taught me to not care about joke theft. It still bothers me, but in the end the truth comes out, and that's why Louis is my hero.
All this talk of ripping off is nonsense. Seriously, I grew up in 1980s Britain with no global access to people like Leary, Loius CK or Bill Hicks. The "I'm an Asshole" and the Kieth Richard's living forever concepts attributed to Bill Hicks, were doing the rounds long before they shouted about it. Observational comedy is exactly that and guess what - a lot of people observe the same things. Especially when they are as basic a concept as driving really slowly to wind people up or the fact that Keith Richards is immortal. Very basic observations made by people long before these people started shouting about it.
I gotta say, I think people are to quick to call plagiarism, because similar thinking happens, BUT It's different when you know the person saw the other one do the material, and they do it multiple times, and in the exact same way. If a guy is sitting there when you do a bit, then he does it the next night, that's no coincidence.
Denis Leary kicks ass! awsome actor and comedian, who the hell cares if he stole "i'm an asshole", obviously Louis CK didn't care, otherwise he would of said or done somthing about it to prevent Denis from collecting any money from the song/lyrics.
+Venom NBK idk what u mean!...louis ck explained it perfect on top of the fact denis leary wouldnt exist in comedy if bill hicks never existed....i mean he stole hick's act & persona
the guy isn't bitter, he said he let it go. It was when he heard that Denis Leary was a jerk to the other guy on the show that made him mad. He hadn't mentioned it before until this interview so how can he be bitter?
it was a bit but dennis made a song out of it which is different than doing what louis said he did. it was a real prick thing for dennis to do the bit right after louis, but the song was more of an inspiration than a ripoff. louis didn't write the lyrics, he didn't perform a song.
Right but if I took the main plot points of Harry Potter, added some of my own scenes and ideas, and turned that into a play and performed it, I would still be stealing. It doesn't matter how talented I am at performing or how many awards I win just like it doesn't matter how good of a job Dennis did singing it or writing parts of it, (even though he did steal specific lines like the handicap spots) he's still a thief. The point is that it wasn't an original idea that Dennis came up with and he didn't credit Louis for it at all. That's dirty, especially in the comedy business.
+David May I sort of agree with your point, i disagree with the Harry Potter analogy completley, i agree it was shitty that Dennis never bothered to give Loius any sort of credit or ackknoweledge his inspiration at all, if he did i don't think it's really that bad. If he acknoweledged that CK's bit was the inspiration i think everyone could appreciate that he developed a great bit. Almost like covering a song but developing it even further. He didn't steal it word for word, the deliverys different he introduces new ideas and took it in a completley direction.
+David May I understand where you are coming from but I would be remiss if I didn't mention that there are actually several movies who very much attempt to ride Harry Potter's cash-laden coattails. The Spiderwick Chronicles, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, Lemony Snicket's, the Sorcerer's Apprentice, and Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children are all very much directed at a Harry Potter-style audience. I chose not to include the Chronicles of Narnia, The Golden Compass, or a few other movies whose source materials either predate Harry Potter's publication or are different enough from Harry Potter's plot that they aren't guilty of the offense you mention. The Divergent series and/or The Hunger Games are good examples of this. I completely support your stance on Leary being a thief. Sometimes people will take the side of the joke thief thinking "It's just not a big deal. They can always think up something else". As you mention, comedians however see this very differently. Their acts and bits are literally how they make a living, feed, clothe and shelter their families. Joke stealing and other IP theft is a VERY big deal to artists, as you mentioned. The thing about Leary is that he's very much a Type-A personality to the point of being a bully. Bill Hick's isn't around anymore to challenge him on his theft and Louis CK is too confident in his ability to always write new material to really care all that much. As I read other comments to this video I have to say that my opinion of people who defend Leary on this subject like +Joshua Drew is that they probably do it because they identify with him somehow. Leary has heavy support from people who either currently live or grew up in his old stomping grounds of Boston...or happen to be Irish. Irish-Americans will often defend one of their own whether they are right or wrong, a holdover from Ireland's rebellious nature toward the Brits.
There is a difference between just straight up stealing somebody's material and regurgitating it back out word for word, and transforming the material thereby making it your own. It's called fair use, look it up.
For the record, I don't like Denis Leary's stand up. I'm not defending him. I am only saying that what he did wasn't stealing. The same way that what Weird Al isn't stealing music for his albums.
well then you need to read what I wrote, dude. If you think Leary stole (meaning word for word) then I can't help you. The delivery, tone and spirit is totally different. THAT's what I mean when I talk about Bruce. There'd be no Carlin, Pryor, Rock, Hicks, CK no one. Bruce's themes were what got these guys thinking. But you're committed to your idea so fine. Just don't portend to know comedy and it's origins. I don't care what your "background" is. You just told me you don't listen.
I think we need to define the term "stealing." So Mr. Leary and Mr. CK used the same things that make people assholes. The difference is Mr. Leary put it in a song and made a lot of money. Two aspects of comedy that people are missing are presentation and timing which is apparent that Mr. Leary is better at than Mr. CK. From now on, Mr. CK, copywrite your shit.
Fair Use rules... transformative bit... not like Louis wrote the chords and lyrics exactly, arranged it... and made the music video, and sold it with the delivery Denis was known for.
@@Randy-do3dz are you a stunad? The length of time is part of the comment. The fact that 6 years ago he failed to describe fair use…so now I was hoping he had some fucking clue what it was. Jesus, people on the internet are so dumb you have to wonder how they get through life without losing a limb doing their menial jobs.
What I just wanna know is, where did M. Broderick come into this picture (literally)?? Like, what was being promoted that involved all three men, even tangentially?
Leary makes it genuinely an all time great bit- he does it better than Louis And I've seen Louis live several times and never heard of Leary until now The only bit that is really plagiarism is the specific references to parking spaces and such, the concept itself is broad enough
Is there any example of louis actually doing the bit? Louis has a habit of saying people steal his jokes, sometimes they seem true and sometimes not but for a guy who persistently says that it doesn't bother him, he has keeps on calling people out for it. I find it hard to discredit Leary considering that of the two of these guys, Leary is the one that can make me laugh. Final note: Louis never actually says what his joke was like, for all we know it was a bit about a guy who was an asshole, and could be completely different. If stealing were the same as using a subject matter for a joke that someone else has used before then every single comedian is a joke thief.
Stop reaching, he stole it. There a lot of videos online that compare other comedians jokes to Louis. There’s no question it’s stolen. Denis Leary isn’t half as funny as Louis, that’s how you know who’s stealing who’s.
@@Nuttyirishman85 But just because there are similar bits done by other comedians that we have examples of being similar, that doesn't mean that Louis saying that a bit was stolen with no proof is genuine. He could be talking shit. He essentially says "I said the word asshole in my bit at one point, for one or two small jokes, then Denis stole the concept of someone being an asshole and made a comedy special out of it" And don't say that Louis doesn't misjudge situations, he's apologised for doing so recently enough.
(Reposted from a related video) Okay so I found Louis performing his assh0le bit on RUclips (with hair) from 11 July 1988 Besides the sentence “I’m an asshole” no other phrase is in Leary’s song. Further, Louis premise is that we don’t do things because we’re not assh0les, but if we were assh0les it would make life easier, like cutting someone off in traffic to get to work fast. Leary’s premise is he’s an assh0le and doesn’t care; not that he’s an assh0le because it’s advantageous If the July 1988 performance is the extent of Louis’ bit; then at most Leary was inspired by the bit but hell even Shakespeare’s Conrade’s best line is “I am an ass” Regarding Louis catching Leary doing his exact bit, if true, then fuk Leary in that instance.
This honestly scares the hell out of me, I really want to be a comic when I get older but I'm not sure now, I'm too afraid of sounding like someone else (on accident) and ending up in the same hole Leary got himself into. For me, Louis and George Carlin were my biggest influences,and not I'm afraid that if I go on stage I'll just imitate them, even on accident. anyone know a way to keep that from happening (other than not doing comedy) ?
you can do it an acknowledge it...ie - ",,,like George Carlin taught us...." Leary steals and gives no credit. Big difference. It is like when you go to see a cover band - they are not trying to say they wrote Freebird.
Doesn't surprise me. I always thought he ripped off Bill Hicks too ! (Louis doesn't seem that miffed about it. He's just telling the story of how it went down).
@mdude1012 Actually they're called Opie & Anthony.. And they're amazing, and Louis's best radio friends, he's been on their show about 50 times (no excaggeration), and has even hosted it. They're hilarious, give them a shot.
@tmandoo1 I don't think Louis is lying. Leary has been accused by alot of comedians of stealing, and other comics have been accused of stealing Louis' stuff, and he's never confirmed it. The interviews I've heard, he's never trashed anyone for it, and has always been a gentleman about the whole thing, so I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
I dont understand how you can still enjoy it knowing that piece of shit shamelessly stole it. I cant stand thieves, If you don't have talent or ideas you need to up your game or learn to live with the fact.
TheEloquentEye Umm don't all musicians and comedians get ideas from others and steal them. Take for example "Ice Ice Baby" written by American rapper Vanilla Ice and DJ Earthquake. The song samples the bassline of "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie.
It's funny how Leary ends up personifying Louie's initial bit by just becoming the asshole and stealing the joke. "An asshole would steal a joke, I can't do that"
It was Louis C.K's original idea. So what? Denis Leary still turned it into a hit song. He expanded a mediocre bit into a full length, career defining, funny as hell song. What's wrong with taking life's lemons and making awesome as shit lemonade? What did you expect? He's an asshole and he's proud of it.
It's his closing bit, couldn't be that long, and so what if he stole one or two lines? He added a majority of the lines himself, according to the lines that Louie gave as examples, he made most of the content himself, and he sung it.
I wouldn't say he stole the bit from LCK. No idea ever is truly original. All ideas are expansions of other Ideas. Wether LCK wants to admit it or not he got the seeds of ideas from other comedians. Louis CK had nothing to do with the writing of the song, that was all Dennis Leary and his writers. Also, more importantly, Dennis leary is funny, Louis CK is not.
You know Hicks came before Leary, right? Leary ripped off a lot of his material. Some of the jokes weren't even changed that much. Line for line, word for word, ripped off from Hicks.
Dennis Leary stole his entire 'No Cure For Cancer' gig from Bill Hick's and continues to steal from every other great comedian as well. Leary isn't even in the same building as Louis CK when it comes to comedic talent!
I never said he didn't steal material. What I said is that Dennis leary presents the material in a way that is funny. LCK lacks comedic timing and presentation.
I'm a fan of Denis Leary. But it's not cool to rip off another comedian. And he seems to have a history of doing it. Denis Leary vs. Bill Hicks. WAY too similar.
I don't get it. What's the big deal if he said it first? He wasn't the one who conceptualized it into a song? Was he mad because he wasn't credited for it? I mean, anyone can say "I'm an Asshole",can't we? Being an asshole can't be patented(laughed a little inside). Doesn't Denis Leary have the right to make a song about a joke he was inspired about?
What's with people saying he's always claiming people stole off him? He didn't make the claim about Dane Cook. Lots of other people made the claim and he refused to comment. Also Cook did steal. In this case of Leary, He explains exactly what happened. It sounds like he stole it. A lot of Comedians do similar bits or routines without it being stolen. Carlin-Hicks-Louis CK. Very similar style to each other, I don't think either of them stole from each other. But when the punchline and fundamental
Preaching to the choir. It happens to everyone. I love listening to this. Did an audition tape at a talent school where I told a joke (later used by someone to win a Comedy Festival and got Rich & Famous) did some voices, told them I play guitar - traditional and rock, sing, play football, hockey, etc. They called me mid 80's asking if I wanted to audition for a role, said I was a "perfect fit" as I had "the look" and it was a comedy about two guys that can "sort-of" play guitar & wish to be famous. I turned it down as I had just enrolled into an Electonics / Computer course. The "Big New Thing" of the time. I think You can guess what that movie was. No regrets, as I got to work for a great pay and made life-long friends in the process. Shit happens, but hey, gotta keep on trucking. ✌️❤️🌐😺😎🤙
please name other people he has accused other than leary and cook, cook has acknowledged it....even going on louie's show to discuss it, and you could literally play leary's most popular jokes and play them against bill hick's material from 2 or 3 years before leary was even a comic, and you couldn't tell the difference. not to mention he said he doesn't care, he only got mad because leary was a dick to anthony. i know this is anticonformist backlash for louis' success, but calling him egotistical is strange.
He absolutely knows Cook stole from him just like Dennis Leary did. He took the high road twice. It’s funny to see morons who have never had an original idea talk crap about Lewis when he let it go twice.
If this dood was so good, then he would of though of his skit to the tune of an irish song, listen , that in itself takes talent to create something, from nothing, in this case, an a-hole comedy skit, boring, a irish a-hole song, not boring, dennis deserves the credit , it is uninique and is his own, nuff said
"should I steal Louis' joke? Well i'm an asshole"
Haha
“I watch better comics and I get an idea
I’ll steal your jokes just like Carlos Mencia.
I’m an asshooooooole”
Nice job, Dennis.
It's weird how they never brought up the fact that Leary got his whole start from ripping off a ton of material from Hicks.
i feel like everyone knows that already and has for ages, to the point it's just presumed knowledge
Actually Leary got his start doing small bits on MTV the first year the MTV hit. His college friend Doug Herzog ran MTV.
He didn’t directly steal jokes verbatim per se - but he did rip off Bill Hicks’ routine of being pro drug, pro smoking, pro swearing, and being very anti establishment and anti government - along with developing many of Hicks’ cadences and mannerisms - some of Hicks concepts were taken but it wasn’t word for word copying what Hicks said - but if you watch a handful of Bill Hicks’ stand ups, and then watch Leary’s “No Cure For Cancer” you will be quite blown away and think to yourself “Yeah, yeah he totally ripped off Hicks….”
That doesn’t remove the fact that Leary is a good entertainer and he’s definitely the person that he acts like on stage - he isn’t selling a fake persona; he just saw what worked for one comedian and presented himself in a very similar way due to the fact that he wanted the credit of being that type of comedian and wanted to target a specific type of audience….
Wasn't Leary and Hicks friends playing in small clubs together going off of each other's material before he got big?
@@talynstarburst2l2l2l Yes. The thing that bothers Hicks so much was the fact that he had already established the on stage character or person he was playing for his stand up presentations and Leary had sort of adapted a lot of Hicks’ style.
There was a point that Hicks became resentful of Leary and stopped talking to him - he felt Leary took much of his mannerisms and subjects and a lot of his style and implemented it into his standup and didn’t do those parts on his own; Hicks felt they were copied and Leary started to go do shows alone and make a name for himself without Hicks in the picture. Hicks did not only feel insulted but he was also hurt that Leary who was a writing partner and buddy of his would take those cadences to the stage and take credit for the standup act as if it was his own….
Didn't Leary also pretty much outright steal parts of Bill Hick's routine back in the 90's too?
yep
It's debatable. The jokes themselves are technically different (and not as clever,) but it's more a matter of him having adopted Bill's whole style and covered all the same subject matter.
Bill Hicks (being interviewed) ... "I stole DL's material, but I did it years earlier and made it funnier".
No, He talked about smoking in a different manner than Hicks. Hicks persona was laconic and laid back and Leary's was manic. The only joke overlap was the comment about Jim Fixx but that was an observation about Jim Fixx dying while jogging made by about 50% of the American population.
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It’s called stealing premises, honey. I thought I was clever by listening to Denis Leary too, then I heard Bill do the same bits but recorded years earlier so now I consider Denis Leary a hack. You ever notice the amount of material Denis DIDNT release after Bill died? It’s not a coincidence. ;)
Reminds me of the old joke, "Why is Denis Leary a rich & successful movie star and Bill Hicks a relatively obscure cult comedian? Because there is No Cure For Cancer." LOL
It kinda makes the song fit more. XD
Clearly it was Mathew Broderick's fault.
When in doubt blame Matthew Broderick. He's a cool guy, he'd get the meme if it went viral.
It’s always Mathew Broderick's fault
Mathew Broderick killed a human being.
You think maybe Leary's people at FX heard about this and offered to give Louis a show b/c they felt bad?
Notice Louie followed 'Rescue Me' when it debuted.
It was the only picture of CK and Leary together I could find!
I feel bad for dragging Mr. Broderick into this!
@first name last name He killed 2 actually
If you "don't think Leary ripped off" anyone, you clearly refuse to just search "Denise Leary Steals" and watch the overwhelming evidence. Hick's never RIPPED OFF word for word a joke of Lenny Bruce the way that Leary blatantly recited Bill's act. Hick's was the first to point out his admiration for Bruce and his style just like Carlin, but Leary straight wrote down and recited other comedian's act.
They were friends and went off of each other's material. If the roles were reversed and Hicks made it big instead, people would say that he stole from Leary.
Lol Denise
@@talynstarburst2l2l2lWrong. But nice try, Dennis.
It never made sense to me that Dennis Leary came up with Asshole, and then wasn't really funny or good afterward. Now it makes perfect sense. He's at his best when he's stealing jokes from better comedians.
Speaking as someone who's done stand-up for years, I can tell you how protective comedians can be of their routines, and if someone so much as dares to repeat their jokes, they become livid and hateful their whole career. Louis is a diamond in the rough, and he's taught me to not care about joke theft. It still bothers me, but in the end the truth comes out, and that's why Louis is my hero.
I love that Norton made a joke stealing bit during a joke stealing story.
I couldn't imagine Louis singing IM AN ASSHOOOOOLE! IM AN ASSHOOOOOLE!
I'm glad Denis ran with it
He doesn't have to sing it. He just has to speak it. That is what Leary did. He took his speaking words made them put into singing words
You’re glad Denis took a great bit and turned it into a shitty song? Cool bro
@@Tryitout95it's a fucken great song. Quit being a bell-end fanboy for Louis CK. Unless you're super into sexual predators 🤷
Regardless what the truth is, Leary delvers it better and has done a lot with his career and contributions.. especially to firefighters.
Fuck Leary. He doesn’t donate his own money. He gets people to donate and takes credit for it. Then he fools idiots like you.
he ripped off alot of bill hicks stuff too, and did a poor job of it
All this talk of ripping off is nonsense. Seriously, I grew up in 1980s Britain with no global access to people like Leary, Loius CK or Bill Hicks. The "I'm an Asshole" and the Kieth Richard's living forever concepts attributed to Bill Hicks, were doing the rounds long before they shouted about it. Observational comedy is exactly that and guess what - a lot of people observe the same things. Especially when they are as basic a concept as driving really slowly to wind people up or the fact that Keith Richards is immortal. Very basic observations made by people long before these people started shouting about it.
One comedian Denis Leary has never ripped off is Steven Wright. No-one can rip off Wright - he's inimitable
I gotta say, I think people are to quick to call plagiarism, because similar thinking happens, BUT
It's different when you know the person saw the other one do the material, and they do it multiple times, and in the exact same way.
If a guy is sitting there when you do a bit, then he does it the next night, that's no coincidence.
hopefully someday matthew broderick will get these two together to bury the hatchet
Denis Leary kicks ass! awsome actor and comedian, who the hell cares if he stole "i'm an asshole", obviously Louis CK didn't care, otherwise he would of said or done somthing about it to prevent Denis from collecting any money from the song/lyrics.
What Denis did is so far removed from what Louis did, that no sane person could call is stealing.
+Venom NBK idk what u mean!...louis ck explained it perfect on top of the fact denis leary wouldnt exist in comedy if bill hicks never existed....i mean he stole hick's act & persona
+thatsjas2 I've seen almost all of Hicks and Leary's stuff. The only bit that Leary for sure stole was the rant on Jim Fix.
Venom NBK well check retaliation. ..that sums up what im talking about
the guy isn't bitter, he said he let it go. It was when he heard that Denis Leary was a jerk to the other guy on the show that made him mad. He hadn't mentioned it before until this interview so how can he be bitter?
Chris Penn has been dead for six or seven years, that was Jim Norton. He played a character on Louis CK's first show.
I loved Louis Ck’s early shows. Maybe first was HBO? Cannot remember
it was a bit but dennis made a song out of it which is different than doing what louis said he did. it was a real prick thing for dennis to do the bit right after louis, but the song was more of an inspiration than a ripoff. louis didn't write the lyrics, he didn't perform a song.
Right but if I took the main plot points of Harry Potter, added some of my own scenes and ideas, and turned that into a play and performed it, I would still be stealing. It doesn't matter how talented I am at performing or how many awards I win just like it doesn't matter how good of a job Dennis did singing it or writing parts of it, (even though he did steal specific lines like the handicap spots) he's still a thief. The point is that it wasn't an original idea that Dennis came up with and he didn't credit Louis for it at all. That's dirty, especially in the comedy business.
+David May I sort of agree with your point, i disagree with the Harry Potter analogy completley, i agree it was shitty that Dennis never bothered to give Loius any sort of credit or ackknoweledge his inspiration at all, if he did i don't think it's really that bad. If he acknoweledged that CK's bit was the inspiration i think everyone could appreciate that he developed a great bit. Almost like covering a song but developing it even further. He didn't steal it word for word, the deliverys different he introduces new ideas and took it in a completley direction.
Jack Pilkington he deserves some but not all. it was leary who made a song out of the idea.
***** but that would be word for word. this wasn't. it was the idea.
+David May I understand where you are coming from but I would be remiss if I didn't mention that there are actually several movies who very much attempt to ride Harry Potter's cash-laden coattails. The Spiderwick Chronicles, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, Lemony Snicket's, the Sorcerer's Apprentice, and Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children are all very much directed at a Harry Potter-style audience. I chose not to include the Chronicles of Narnia, The Golden Compass, or a few other movies whose source materials either predate Harry Potter's publication or are different enough from Harry Potter's plot that they aren't guilty of the offense you mention. The Divergent series and/or The Hunger Games are good examples of this.
I completely support your stance on Leary being a thief. Sometimes people will take the side of the joke thief thinking "It's just not a big deal. They can always think up something else". As you mention, comedians however see this very differently. Their acts and bits are literally how they make a living, feed, clothe and shelter their families. Joke stealing and other IP theft is a VERY big deal to artists, as you mentioned.
The thing about Leary is that he's very much a Type-A personality to the point of being a bully. Bill Hick's isn't around anymore to challenge him on his theft and Louis CK is too confident in his ability to always write new material to really care all that much.
As I read other comments to this video I have to say that my opinion of people who defend Leary on this subject like +Joshua Drew is that they probably do it because they identify with him somehow. Leary has heavy support from people who either currently live or grew up in his old stomping grounds of Boston...or happen to be Irish. Irish-Americans will often defend one of their own whether they are right or wrong, a holdover from Ireland's rebellious nature toward the Brits.
Know what he didn't rip off Louis? His pants and jacket.
There is a difference between just straight up stealing somebody's material and regurgitating it back out word for word, and transforming the material thereby making it your own. It's called fair use, look it up.
For the record, I don't like Denis Leary's stand up. I'm not defending him. I am only saying that what he did wasn't stealing. The same way that what Weird Al isn't stealing music for his albums.
shut up Dennis
@@jonathanwilson3186
Loved the series Rescue Me with denis leery but it became apparent that Leery was in control of writing in later episodes
well then you need to read what I wrote, dude. If you think Leary stole (meaning word for word) then I can't help you. The delivery, tone and spirit is totally different. THAT's what I mean when I talk about Bruce. There'd be no Carlin, Pryor, Rock, Hicks, CK no one. Bruce's themes were what got these guys thinking. But you're committed to your idea so fine. Just don't portend to know comedy and it's origins. I don't care what your "background" is. You just told me you don't listen.
So where does Matthew Broderick come into play?
Because the song was released by Leary on his album, and it goes by the CDDB data provided by the retailer.
I think we need to define the term "stealing." So Mr. Leary and Mr. CK used the same things that make people assholes. The difference is Mr. Leary put it in a song and made a lot of money. Two aspects of comedy that people are missing are presentation and timing which is apparent that Mr. Leary is better at than Mr. CK. From now on, Mr. CK, copywrite your shit.
It’s not about how popular you make it to be. It’s about honor Nora. It’s deeper than a paycheck.
Forgot Bill Hicks
+VeKtorVacuum what's with Bill Hicks?
+VeKtorVacuum nobody cares.
Jamie Hellfire Thanks for your confession. I'm sure your life will turn around.
I don't see how 2 lines of an entire song being similar to a closing act is stealing, and then he gives you money, and you still complain.
that is totally stealing.
Menial success? Louis CK is probably one of the top ten most financially successful stand up comics ever at this point. :/
Financial success is a measure of integrity?? Lol
Fair Use rules... transformative bit... not like Louis wrote the chords and lyrics exactly, arranged it... and made the music video, and sold it with the delivery Denis was known for.
6 years have passed. I hope you understand what fair use is now lol
@@opaljk4835I hope YOU can understand what a sexual predator is. Louis CK deserves zero respect.
@@Randy-do3dz what are you talking about? I was telling this guy he doesn’t know what fair use is after 6 years of make his comment
@@opaljk4835 oh excuse me! I didn't realize there was an expiry date on comments 🤷
@@Randy-do3dz are you a stunad? The length of time is part of the comment. The fact that 6 years ago he failed to describe fair use…so now I was hoping he had some fucking clue what it was. Jesus, people on the internet are so dumb you have to wonder how they get through life without losing a limb doing their menial jobs.
What I just wanna know is, where did M. Broderick come into this picture (literally)?? Like, what was being promoted that involved all three men, even tangentially?
Leary makes it genuinely an all time great bit- he does it better than Louis
And I've seen Louis live several times and never heard of Leary until now
The only bit that is really plagiarism is the specific references to parking spaces and such, the concept itself is broad enough
Is there any example of louis actually doing the bit? Louis has a habit of saying people steal his jokes, sometimes they seem true and sometimes not but for a guy who persistently says that it doesn't bother him, he has keeps on calling people out for it.
I find it hard to discredit Leary considering that of the two of these guys, Leary is the one that can make me laugh.
Final note: Louis never actually says what his joke was like, for all we know it was a bit about a guy who was an asshole, and could be completely different. If stealing were the same as using a subject matter for a joke that someone else has used before then every single comedian is a joke thief.
Stop reaching, he stole it. There a lot of videos online that compare other comedians jokes to Louis. There’s no question it’s stolen. Denis Leary isn’t half as funny as Louis, that’s how you know who’s stealing who’s.
@@Nuttyirishman85 But just because there are similar bits done by other comedians that we have examples of being similar, that doesn't mean that Louis saying that a bit was stolen with no proof is genuine. He could be talking shit.
He essentially says "I said the word asshole in my bit at one point, for one or two small jokes, then Denis stole the concept of someone being an asshole and made a comedy special out of it"
And don't say that Louis doesn't misjudge situations, he's apologised for doing so recently enough.
Does he count out the money like this.....*DEAD*
Ahahahaha, I love how RUclips's automated credit system lists Denis Leary as the artist of this video
(Reposted from a related video)
Okay so I found Louis performing his assh0le bit on RUclips (with hair) from 11 July 1988
Besides the sentence “I’m an asshole” no other phrase is in Leary’s song.
Further, Louis premise is that we don’t do things because we’re not assh0les, but if we were assh0les it would make life easier, like cutting someone off in traffic to get to work fast.
Leary’s premise is he’s an assh0le and doesn’t care; not that he’s an assh0le because it’s advantageous
If the July 1988 performance is the extent of Louis’ bit; then at most Leary was inspired by the bit but hell even Shakespeare’s Conrade’s best line is “I am an ass”
Regarding Louis catching Leary doing his exact bit, if true, then fuk Leary in that instance.
Leary is kinda known for stealing bits tho
Missing verse ... "I watch other comics, and steal all their jokes, I'm an asshole, I'm an asshole ... "
This honestly scares the hell out of me, I really want to be a comic when I get older but I'm not sure now, I'm too afraid of sounding like someone else (on accident) and ending up in the same hole Leary got himself into. For me, Louis and George Carlin were my biggest influences,and not I'm afraid that if I go on stage I'll just imitate them, even on accident. anyone know a way to keep that from happening (other than not doing comedy) ?
hermanliisgod1 you’ve got to find and develop your voice. Lots of folks are influenced by others without stealing material.
you can do it an acknowledge it...ie - ",,,like George Carlin taught us...." Leary steals and gives no credit. Big difference. It is like when you go to see a cover band - they are not trying to say they wrote Freebird.
Doesn't surprise me. I always thought he ripped off Bill Hicks too !
(Louis doesn't seem that miffed about it. He's just telling the story of how it went down).
prove it
Bill Hicks.
@mdude1012 Actually they're called Opie & Anthony.. And they're amazing, and Louis's best radio friends, he's been on their show about 50 times (no excaggeration), and has even hosted it. They're hilarious, give them a shot.
@tmandoo1
I don't think Louis is lying. Leary has been accused by alot of comedians of stealing, and other comics have been accused of stealing Louis' stuff, and he's never confirmed it. The interviews I've heard, he's never trashed anyone for it, and has always been a gentleman about the whole thing, so I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Leary made it better
That is if your the type of moron who thinks you can make something funnier by shouting or singing it.
TheEloquentEye Ummm depends..but apparently yes you can.
I dont understand how you can still enjoy it knowing that piece of shit shamelessly stole it. I cant stand thieves, If you don't have talent or ideas you need to up your game or learn to live with the fact.
TheEloquentEye Umm don't all musicians and comedians get ideas from others and steal them. Take for example "Ice Ice Baby" written by American rapper Vanilla Ice and DJ Earthquake. The song samples the bassline of "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie.
+mSdos8 yes, and people generally think vanilla ice is and was a talentless asshole.
Is that Chris Penn chiming in towards the end?
It's funny how Leary ends up personifying Louie's initial bit by just becoming the asshole and stealing the joke. "An asshole would steal a joke, I can't do that"
It was Louis C.K's original idea. So what? Denis Leary still turned it into a hit song. He expanded a mediocre bit into a full length, career defining, funny as hell song. What's wrong with taking life's lemons and making awesome as shit lemonade? What did you expect? He's an asshole and he's proud of it.
i never did like leary
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I wouldn't call Leary a thief. I'd call Bill Hicks and Louis CK Leary's best writers.
OK so Louis invented the word asshole now. C.K. is hilarious, but he's way off base here.
"does he count out the money and whistle....""I'm an asshole""... " Funny.
It's his closing bit, couldn't be that long, and so what if he stole one or two lines? He added a majority of the lines himself, according to the lines that Louie gave as examples, he made most of the content himself, and he sung it.
I wouldn't say he stole the bit from LCK. No idea ever is truly original. All ideas are expansions of other Ideas. Wether LCK wants to admit it or not he got the seeds of ideas from other comedians. Louis CK had nothing to do with the writing of the song, that was all Dennis Leary and his writers. Also, more importantly, Dennis leary is funny, Louis CK is not.
Carlin dead. Hicks dead. Mitch dead. Giraldo dead. Lenny dead. Leary -- Christ, help us all. VIVA LOUIS CK!
Why the hell, after this video, does Denis Leary get the artist credit for the video (below like bar)??
Because he wrote and performed the song ding dong🤷
also Louis CK is a known sexual predator, so why are folks defending him so fiercely? 🤔
I can't seem to find any videos that showed just how bad Leary stole from Hicks. It's like word for word
And for no reason whatsoever: Mathew Broderick!
Don't think he was.
You know Hicks came before Leary, right? Leary ripped off a lot of his material. Some of the jokes weren't even changed that much. Line for line, word for word, ripped off from Hicks.
How does no one on this show know who Bill Hicks was?
Dennis Leary stole his entire 'No Cure For Cancer' gig from Bill Hick's and continues to steal from every other great comedian as well. Leary isn't even in the same building as Louis CK when it comes to comedic talent!
Come on, Louis couldn't even pull that song off if he tried, come on.
Dane Cook I think.
Every time I here that Smokey raspy Denis Leary voice selling some Ford truck I say Why the FUCK is that guy famous?
I never said he didn't steal material. What I said is that Dennis leary presents the material in a way that is funny. LCK lacks comedic timing and presentation.
Was that the song on bevis and butthead, when bevis dose the words and like has a seizure.
It's quite ironic, an asshole was listening to his bit. 'Shall I steal his bit, I'm an asshole so I will.'
@ThexArgonaut Dennis Leary put out this song in 93 while Louis CK had been doing stand up since the 80s...
I'm a fan of Denis Leary. But it's not cool to rip off another comedian. And he seems to have a history of doing it. Denis Leary vs. Bill Hicks. WAY too similar.
You mean steal the Hicks parts?
I don't get it. What's the big deal if he said it first? He wasn't the one who conceptualized it into a song? Was he mad because he wasn't credited for it? I mean, anyone can say "I'm an Asshole",can't we? Being an asshole can't be patented(laughed a little inside). Doesn't Denis Leary have the right to make a song about a joke he was inspired about?
It's weird that, just judging by the looks, only Louis doesn't seem like a molester
One of these three pictured men is a murderer.
+Matttothefifth I read that the family ended up forgiving Matthew Broderick because they were big 'Godzilla' fans.
+Matttothefifth doesn't he look the part? there's something creepy about his eyes.
Ok now someone needs to explain....
BigDH28
Matthew Broderick while vacationing in Ireland in 1987, struck a car with 2 occupants, a Mother and daughter who were both killed.
+Kane Alson ahh, thank you for taking the time to tell me that. Cheers!
They all stole everything from Matthew Broderick. He's the real comedy Genius.
@swakachi He doesn't seem pissed at all about it. He's just answering their questions..
@bwc3821 lol, nothing. it was the only photo of louis and dennis together i could find.
Sucks he stole it. That being said it fits Leary more.
now? "asshole" was released in 1994.
What's with people saying he's always claiming people stole off him? He didn't make the claim about Dane Cook. Lots of other people made the claim and he refused to comment. Also Cook did steal. In this case of Leary, He explains exactly what happened. It sounds like he stole it. A lot of Comedians do similar bits or routines without it being stolen. Carlin-Hicks-Louis CK. Very similar style to each other, I don't think either of them stole from each other. But when the punchline and fundamental
Preaching to the choir. It happens to everyone. I love listening to this.
Did an audition tape at a talent school where I told a joke (later used by someone to win a Comedy Festival and got Rich & Famous) did some voices, told them I play guitar - traditional and rock, sing, play football, hockey, etc. They called me mid 80's asking if I wanted to audition for a role, said I was a "perfect fit" as I had "the look" and it was a comedy about two guys that can "sort-of" play guitar & wish to be famous. I turned it down as I had just enrolled into an Electonics / Computer course. The "Big New Thing" of the time. I think You can guess what that movie was. No regrets, as I got to work for a great pay and made life-long friends in the process. Shit happens, but hey, gotta keep on trucking. ✌️❤️🌐😺😎🤙
Are you gonna leave us all hanging?
Bill and Ted ripped you off?
@@tornoofo17 No, a comedian.
what talk show is this?
Louie has a black spot on his career now for launching Denis Leary. Other than that the man is a genius.
you know you're a great comedian when famous comedian stole your joke
Louis is so over rated, claiming people keep stealing from him. What an ego. He should be thankful he has a job.
please name other people he has accused other than leary and cook, cook has acknowledged it....even going on louie's show to discuss it, and you could literally play leary's most popular jokes and play them against bill hick's material from 2 or 3 years before leary was even a comic, and you couldn't tell the difference. not to mention he said he doesn't care, he only got mad because leary was a dick to anthony. i know this is anticonformist backlash for louis' success, but calling him egotistical is strange.
Lol you’re a moron as well
He absolutely knows Cook stole from him just like Dennis Leary did. He took the high road twice. It’s funny to see morons who have never had an original idea talk crap about Lewis when he let it go twice.
What full date is this clips' episode from, day, month?
Opie and Anthony radio show.
I'm more interested in who makes me laugh. Denis Leary does, Louis CK doesn't.
If this dood was so good, then he would of though of his skit to the tune of an irish song, listen , that in itself takes talent to create something, from nothing, in this case, an a-hole comedy skit, boring, a irish a-hole song, not boring, dennis deserves the credit , it is uninique and is his own, nuff said
didn't Leary steal "asshole" from Bill Hicks?
No, just everything else.
that's kind of the point
isn't the guy in the middle that fella who was embarassed about Ally Sheedy seeing his pants(shorts) in "Wargames"?
Watch the video.
Louis CK used to have a bit about being an asshole, Leary ripped it off, and turned it into a song.
When did Dennis never say he wasn’t an asshole?
Dennis Leary and Robin Williams are notorious for ripping off other comedians bits
Especially Carlos Mencia and Dane Cook.
***** Nobody steals from Dane Cook. He's garbage.