Plz pin if u =🐐 For akyama that a : ●FS : akiyama insane diff ( liar game ) ●NFS : patrick jane high diff ( can be higher cause of akiyama's off-screen feat when he down alone a whole society alone and the musical chair game but PJ take it cause his case where rls and rls are mostly nfs) ●RLS : Patrick jane high-extrême diff (psychology knowledge + human understanding carry to hard for akiyama but by feat PT still take it cause all of his case where rls ●RLS with influence : akiyama extreme diff ( akiyama take ot cause he has better people managment and co trol imo , he can use the better of each people when even is PT work with his team he still prefer solo ) ●Overall outsmarting : 50/50 until one make a mistake but tend little more to akiyama "imo" , cause akiyama is a strategic character like the best strategiest of u exlude unrealistic character and strategy is better than planning , even if PT is also a master strategiest ●Overall manipulation : 50/50 by feats , so all dépend on the situation , PT used emotional, psychological manipulation while akiyama uses rational and logical manipulation , but tend more to PT by feats ●in Usogui : patrick jane high diff ●in LG : akiyama , extrême diff ●in TD : 50/50 but tend more to Patrick (hes more cunning imo) ●in Spécial exam : 50/50 but tend more to akiyama (sole special exam are abt phy + and akiyama has a better people management aky will take fs exam while PT nfs exam ●in kira case : both pass without lot of diff , but akiyama take it better imo (people say hes to good , but before encountering nao this guy has down one of the bigest bank sociéty "possibly" by himself and that require manipulation , cuningness...) ●in kira case (déduction of kira ) : Patrick jane , high-extreme diff or might be extreme diff but if with influence at the start then akiyama extreme-insane diff might even be other way. (PT take it high-extreme diff cause even if deduction is his speciality , akiyama is also a monster deduction , 17 card poker tlk for himself and infection game too) ●Overall : patrick jane = akiyama , draw but tend more to no one all depend of the situation , both are close to perfection , that will go until one make a mistake Plz keep in mind this is my opinion , of just a guy who has watch mentalist and read Lg , im not a god , so i respect ur opinion if u want to debate im open But remember the most important is that both series are absolute peak with usogui 😉
@@Incepter. true , i was wrong abt this take , i write it when i was s2 , ove finished it now but honestly his most impressive feats were during s3) And ye pj > akiyama (very high diff-extreme diff) akiyama takes fs . PJ is >= pm hal .
we want a fanfic of akiyama being a unstoppable criminal while patrick jane hunting him. basically moriarty the patriot but much cooler. we also understood that akiyama took down a national level organization and only played all safe way in liar's game.
@@anitm5313 in nfs( non fixed situation) outsmarting Patrick>baku madarame for sure. fs outsmarting on the other hand, that’s a toss up. But overall Patrick would win high difficulty against baku. I also love Baku man what a nut job
Considering ur pfp ig it's obvious u r biased but it's very high diff for pj and also in fixed situation he gets high diffed by the monster strategist Akiyama
Academics debatable knowledge, self regulation and awareness goes to akiyama (mainly cuz Patrick just pulls up and pisses everyone off) 💀 mid high diff is p good imo
I agree with the outcome, but mid diff is too low. You made the entire manipulation, but didn’t the strategy, planinho and deception, so overall would be away closer, like extreme diff
@@Khanhtuann First of all, you either failed to understand the definition of "cringe", or you do feel cringe for some neurodivergent reason. But, what's even more cringe is you stating Akiyama is above Koji without giving any reasons
@@QuinnEnjoyerOfDeezNutsRead contraband and musical chairs. And before you say "Read Ln🤓" I've already read till vol 10 . To be fair I think yokoya low diffs koji in every category except physical.
prety w,akiyama is better as a logical character and a much more realistic one,patrick sometimes is so intuitive based that its just ilogicall thinking like thats just irealistic and too much guesswork ,akiyama is still the smartest realistic character and its more like high diff or mid -high atleast
jane's logical af he's only intuitive in the sense that his case investigations are initially based on small incongruences/ strong intuition but the methods and deductions he uses to actually prove someone is guilty is entirely logical and well thought
You underestimate pj by a lot, this was quite accurate. Pj is an absolute monster when it comes to outsmarting. Imo I keep him pj>akiyama mid-high diff. Baku>pj extreme or could go either way.
thanks for not overrating Akiyama. IMO it should be very low-low diff, PJ negs claps this fodder and should take categories like strategy, planning, mathematical and etc.
@@asas-je6yj but everyone seems to to think- at least they used to- Baku is superior to anyone and he slams everbody how is Akiyama overrated I don't get it? I also haven't watched Mentalist but I have seen some episodes and scenes thanks to people around me watching it and I don't see how PJ, a case solver who doesn't have to compete against people and try to keep himself safe while trying to defeat others could outsmart a guy who always wins in the most complex and complicated situations and can only form strategies under tough circumstantions, pressure and given limited moves and certain rules, limited time; and under potential danger, I'm really curious not trying to debate or anything
@@StoslaTRI've finished the Mentalist but I don't actually remember PJ having any mathematical intelligence feats that rival Akiyama's (17 card poker feat for example)
He did, PJ outsmarts gambling related games. PJ has a memory palace like Sherlock Holmes where he stores 100+ strategic gambling games and card related pictures. His WMI alone makes PJ mid difference to Akiyama
It should be high diff not mid diff Baku mid high diffs akiyama and PJ high diffs akiyma Baku vs PJ Baku madarame win high extreme Hal high extreme diffs baku and also HAL high diffs PJ IMO
Plz pin if u =🐐
For akyama that a :
●FS : akiyama insane diff ( liar game )
●NFS : patrick jane high diff ( can be higher cause of akiyama's off-screen feat when he down alone a whole society alone and the musical chair game but PJ take it cause his case where rls and rls are mostly nfs)
●RLS : Patrick jane high-extrême diff (psychology knowledge + human understanding carry to hard for akiyama but by feat PT still take it cause all of his case where rls
●RLS with influence : akiyama extreme diff ( akiyama take ot cause he has better people managment and co trol imo , he can use the better of each people when even is PT work with his team he still prefer solo )
●Overall outsmarting : 50/50 until one make a mistake but tend little more to akiyama "imo" , cause akiyama is a strategic character like the best strategiest of u exlude unrealistic character and strategy is better than planning , even if PT is also a master strategiest
●Overall manipulation : 50/50 by feats , so all dépend on the situation , PT used emotional, psychological manipulation while akiyama uses rational and logical manipulation , but tend more to PT by feats
●in Usogui : patrick jane high diff
●in LG : akiyama , extrême diff
●in TD : 50/50 but tend more to Patrick (hes more cunning imo)
●in Spécial exam : 50/50 but tend more to akiyama (sole special exam are abt phy + and akiyama has a better people management aky will take fs exam while PT nfs exam
●in kira case : both pass without lot of diff , but akiyama take it better imo (people say hes to good , but before encountering nao this guy has down one of the bigest bank sociéty "possibly" by himself and that require manipulation , cuningness...)
●in kira case (déduction of kira ) : Patrick jane , high-extreme diff or might be extreme diff but if with influence at the start then akiyama extreme-insane diff might even be other way.
(PT take it high-extreme diff cause even if deduction is his speciality , akiyama is also a monster deduction , 17 card poker tlk for himself and infection game too)
●Overall : patrick jane = akiyama , draw but tend more to no one all depend of the situation , both are close to perfection , that will go until one make a mistake
Plz keep in mind this is my opinion , of just a guy who has watch mentalist and read Lg , im not a god , so i respect ur opinion if u want to debate im open
But remember the most important is that both series are absolute peak with usogui 😉
Patrick Jane is very very slightly better than Akiyama.
So he wins like High-Extreme Diff in overall intellect and situations
@@Incepter. true , i was wrong abt this take , i write it when i was s2 , ove finished it now but honestly his most impressive feats were during s3)
And ye pj > akiyama (very high diff-extreme diff) akiyama takes fs .
PJ is >= pm hal .
@@Incepter. but akiyama takes intellect
@@UNAMNED Oh yeah I forgot that Akiyama is like the definition of problem solving so okay I take it back
@@Incepter. w opinion
we want a fanfic of akiyama being a unstoppable criminal while patrick jane hunting him.
basically moriarty the patriot but much cooler.
we also understood that akiyama took down a national level organization and only played all safe way in liar's game.
Unstopable? BRO WAS IN PRISON THE FIRST CHAPTER YOU IDIOT
im on it
Epizode 1 Patrick Jane Is Enough.
He Knew Who Is The Killer Just By Looking On That Human For A Couple Of Seconds.
😅
Agree but let's put hight diff and academics to akiyama given the fact that pj didn't even go to school.
Academics isn't academic achivements but academical knowledge and Jane used way more academical knowledge in the show
@@ThePizzalist oh fair enough than.
@@ThePizzalist academic intelligence and academics are two different points tho
The diff should be higher imo, Akiyama didnt even fully try in LG and off screan feats are very good for him as well
W, but mid diff is crazy. I would say it's more like high diff
Nah, a mid high can be, Patrick is savage
Mid-high difficulty is more accurate. I love akiyama, but Patrick is a monster.
@@leanmeanmenace1744 Yeah, we can agree on that. And imao Patrick > Baku
@@anitm5313 in nfs( non fixed situation) outsmarting Patrick>baku madarame for sure. fs outsmarting on the other hand, that’s a toss up. But overall Patrick would win high difficulty against baku. I also love Baku man what a nut job
@@leanmeanmenace1744 W comment, pretty rare in today's community
Fire edit + facts on everything
Fluid and Spatial Intelligence, Planning , Logical, Linear, Non-linear, Convergent , Divergent , Lateral, fast>= thinking, Concreate, Inductive, Cognitive reasoning Predictions , Logical>= Manipulation , Triangulation , Bluffing (both), Misdirection(both), Methods, complexity to Patrick Jane and its a Solid High diff
Even less
It's Beyond Negative Difficulty + Overkill.
This Guy Is Not Even Close To The Narrative Red John While Patrick Jane FUCKING KILLED RED JOHN.
The edit is so good and i love how the song fits the edit.
And this is a very interesting match best liar vs best consultant
Considering ur pfp ig it's obvious u r biased but it's very high diff for pj and also in fixed situation he gets high diffed by the monster strategist Akiyama
that's not an argument
Academics debatable knowledge, self regulation and awareness goes to akiyama (mainly cuz Patrick just pulls up and pisses everyone off) 💀 mid high diff is p good imo
absolute W and nice edit bro
Akiyama wins extreme difference
This edit goes so freaking hard, my god. W! Mid diff though? Ehh….
W edit and W diff🥂🔥
Excelente edición y W
Rara vez veo a un hispanohablante comentar en este tipo de versus. Ahora no me siento tan solo en los comentarios. 😹😹😹
@@LieLikeVortigern450 x2 jajaja. Eres la primera persona que veo hablando español en videos de este estilo
@@LieLikeVortigern450 Totalmente, confirmo que desde hace meses solo conoci a no mas de 5 hispanos en esta comunidad 🗿
Phew good editing
I agree with the outcome, but mid diff is too low. You made the entire manipulation, but didn’t the strategy, planinho and deception, so overall would be away closer, like extreme diff
I would say mid-high is about accurate.
@@leaderzarkno I think high to very high diff
Pretty High Diff*
Red John Is More Dangerous.@@sexyboy-er1gc
Absolutely W Edit and Take Mid Difficulty Really Perfect Difficulty.
PJ>=Baku>>>Akiyama (Baku Mid-High Difficulty Akiyama)
(IMO PJ Take more Points)
W comparison
W
btw did you see the "beyond evil" that I said?
bro, planning and methods go to patrick
Do Patrick Jane vs Baku Madarame full scale but please don't use my ordinary life song but a good and unique song like this .
Mid diff is underestimating akiyama way too much
Goat video
Massive W but mid diff is crazy. Its closer to high-extreme diff depending on the situation.
In fixed situation sure
Mid-high diff
No diff bro
NFS- Patrick mid diffs
Fs- akiyama high-extreme diffs
Overall Patrick mid-high wins difficulty imo
Es un High diff si o si como lo sobrevaloran a el mentalista
No está luchando contra cualquiera osea es un High diff si o si
Jane just warmed up by slamming this Koji victim😂
@@Khanhtuann Akiyama doesn't
@@Khanhtuann First of all, you either failed to understand the definition of "cringe", or you do feel cringe for some neurodivergent reason.
But, what's even more cringe is you stating Akiyama is above Koji without giving any reasons
@@QuinnEnjoyerOfDeezNutsRead contraband and musical chairs.
And before you say "Read Ln🤓"
I've already read till vol 10 .
To be fair I think yokoya low diffs koji in every category except physical.
@@John-D327 I don't have the energy to write too much rn. But how about we just have a slow paced debate for each categories.
W
prety w,akiyama is better as a logical character and a much more realistic one,patrick sometimes is so intuitive based that its just ilogicall thinking like thats just irealistic and too much guesswork ,akiyama is still the smartest realistic character and its more like high diff or mid -high atleast
jane's logical af
he's only intuitive in the sense that his case investigations are initially based on small incongruences/ strong intuition but the methods and deductions he uses to actually prove someone is guilty is entirely logical and well thought
Music? please my friends
Hayloft II
@@ThePizzalist Thank you so much my friend, I thank you from the bottom of my heart 😊
Sorry but Akiyama high diffs
PJ is on Yokoya/Lalo Vincent level Akiyama is on Baku level and PJ gets mid diffed by Baku
You underestimate pj by a lot, this was quite accurate. Pj is an absolute monster when it comes to outsmarting.
Imo I keep him pj>akiyama mid-high diff.
Baku>pj extreme or could go either way.
@@PJ_enjoyer bro ur delusional. Baku mid diffs PJ at minimum bro
@@RolloNotOveremmm, Not really
Up for a debate?
Doesn't Baku high-extreme diff Patrick Jane though
w edit, w song, w characters, w everything
thanks for not overrating Akiyama. IMO it should be very low-low diff, PJ negs claps this fodder and should take categories like strategy, planning, mathematical and etc.
why the hate for akiyama tho?
@@akiyamaswife he is too Overrated nowadays ngl. he aint even suprass ING Takuya not to mention PJ
@@asas-je6yj but everyone seems to to think- at least they used to- Baku is superior to anyone and he slams everbody how is Akiyama overrated I don't get it? I also haven't watched Mentalist but I have seen some episodes and scenes thanks to people around me watching it and I don't see how PJ, a case solver who doesn't have to compete against people and try to keep himself safe while trying to defeat others could outsmart a guy who always wins in the most complex and complicated situations and can only form strategies under tough circumstantions, pressure and given limited moves and certain rules, limited time; and under potential danger, I'm really curious not trying to debate or anything
Baku slams jane
Very low-low diff
W edit, but Mid Diff is too low. Mid-High minimum.
Mathematical intelligence goes to patrick jane
I think not
@@MoonS4444 You probably haven't watched "The Mentalist". Patrick jane's math int is crazy
@@StoslaTR i didn't finish It all yet, ok but Akiyama's mathematical intel and thinking was always crazy since the beginning
@@StoslaTRI've finished the Mentalist but I don't actually remember PJ having any mathematical intelligence feats that rival Akiyama's (17 card poker feat for example)
@@Mainasugomi2402 i am watching 4th season and i dont remember any of PJ math feats
so u have yuuichi above akiyama
W but mid diff is crazy imo i will say high diff(+) or very high diff
W but adaptability,leadership,influence take PJ in feat
Both goat SCD characters
Mid diff is kinda crazy
ok
W.
Diff seems a little low but understandable and W take
This person did not have readed Liar game
He did, PJ outsmarts gambling related games. PJ has a memory palace like Sherlock Holmes where he stores 100+ strategic gambling games and card related pictures. His WMI alone makes PJ mid difference to Akiyama
Pj very high diffs akiyama🙏
VSI goes to PJ
W
Song name?
Hayloft 2
why mid diff? i think its high extreme diff
Patrick Kane wins extreme diff imo tbh
Akiyama extreme diffs
Nah, high-extreme Diff Patrick
It should be high diff not mid diff Baku mid high diffs akiyama and PJ high diffs akiyma
Baku vs PJ
Baku madarame win high extreme
Hal high extreme diffs baku and also HAL high diffs PJ IMO
pj=baku imo
@@Rn_edits71 W opinion
W+ Planning Takes pj
Baku vs pj
baku extreme diff
@@Dan_Setz nah,pj wins but it will be high diff atleast,i think even higher
There's already a full scale of that on RUclips
Shawn Spencer better
W but I would say high- very high diff for PJ not mid diff