I wanna correct the nationality of Sika. She is a Japanese and part of the Japanese trainee team of JYPE before, being the leader. She trained with Japanese TWICE members if my memory serves me.
Thank you. I had very mixed info. Like she had a Japanese name listed and her nationality as Chinese-Japanese and so I got very confused and more things pointed to Chinese. Thank you for that
I also heard/saw before she left JYPE Sika was supposed to be in NiziU. JYPE is also known to help their trainees aka if JYPE doesn’t think the trainee will suit the group or they don’t want to debut them yet they will tell the trainee about a group debuting in another company and ask if they wanna go there/or push them there I don’t know for sure how it goes but apparently it’s very common I’ve heard.
You don't have to believe me, but Sika was my roommate in a singing competition in Beijing, China which lasted a few weeks and she was the sweetest even though I had a very hard time communicating because I can barely speak mandarin. Back then, I didn't know she was a k-pop trainee so seeing this now as a k-pop stan breaks my heart. I hope she's okay wherever she is.
@@zadokthestoryteller6590 Yup! It was back in 2015 and Beijing held a competition where all Chinese teens from all over the world represent their country in a Chinese singing contest and I represented my country while she represented Japan!
wow! Thank you for sharing. I've always been curious to know whether there's any retroactive recognition for idols. What was your reaction when you found out she had debuted as an idol?
Back in the day making your own social media was kinda a sign that you left or the group was breaking up. After T-ara lots of companies put a really tight hold on their groups social media presence. Even now it can be iffy, look at Cignature. Both Sunn and YeAh opened Instagram accounts and only after fans demanded to know what was going on did the company finally say they had departed. It's not a sign of doom for established groups to open individual social media (Red Velvet, Apink, Blackpink, etc) but for a Rookie group it can be a yellow flag.
I think the members opening their own Instagrams was a worry because of the older rule no personal social media. I get the concern. As for the group, I really hope they find their footing in the kpop world.
After all has happened I'm surprised that plenty of members are still on the group, I saw the red flags since the debut, as a fan you think things will be good but the pandemic just accelerated the process, I think they deserve so much but at this point a miracle is needed for them to continue.
They have also rotated members though and she rightfully pointed out that not all members have ever done music together, so that in and of itself isn't a worry-it's the Sika issue and possibly Chaelin that are the worry.
FANATICS are one of my favorite groups. They captivate me and "Sunday" perfectly painted the sound of long, hazy, warm end-of-summer nights and drives and the excitement of fresh, young love. It was heartbreaking seeing that debut get completely swallowed by fan's attention for Rocket Punch's (whom I also love and need more recognition) and CIX' debuts. And I was stunned when ChiaYi's "Vavi Girl" flips live didn't go viral-I really thought that could be their breakthrough moment to get attention, but nothing happened. Yes, sadly it appears that the ever-professional, constantly consistent Sika is gone and I hope Chaelin isn't also, with her unusual, husky voice (think Hyoyeon of SNSD) and great on-camera expression. I was under the impression that Color Star Technology *had* bought FENT according to kpop sites, but you're right, there is no way to tell for sure, which is one of the frustrating things about their company, whichever one is it. I hope and pray the group can rise, gain traction and recognition and be able to make a decent income from their efforts and the talents they are so blessed to do so well. FANATICS and hwaiting!
There's just so many groups debuting every year that it becomes extremely difficult for idols to gain attention and be successful, no matter how good they are. Unfortunately, if their companies suck at managing and promoting them, they will have little to no chance in having a good idol career. It's just so sad that fanatics is such a good group but their company just seems so bad :((
I have been following them since Milkshake, and I got there bc of Doah on PD48. I am beyond worried for them, since there is a possibility that they are facing abuse of some kind, or at least used to. I don't see them lasting long since it seems like they have a very unstable company and overall management. I don't want to be pessimistic, but I do think they will disband, and that saddens me because they are super talented and the mismanagement is proving detrimental. I entirely blame the company because I am more worried about their actions.
Man when you see so many of these girl groups performing with big colourful bubblegum smiles like they're in the bliss life, but knowing there's so many ordeals and drama following, from cars speeding, superstition, owed money, drama etc makes the presented images so....hmm at times. May they all get to live and enjoy the dream properly with dignity and respect.
Doah is the only one in the group who still got proper idol job The rest of them became vloggers and the worst is Sika just disappeared……. FENT please bring them back or just disband them……. We just want a simple official statement to make sure our girls are okay
@@pacardoah7045 no…… I was hoping for a Fanatics some back with all 8 of them……. Sika was my bias in Fanatics so I’m definitely still supporting her I hope they can start group activities soon
Before gp999 I was fearing that they would disband, because of the livestream "issues" and also because of the long wait between songs. And then when the 3 girls got announced for gp999 I was scared it was the end, but I was also hopeful that maybe gp999 could be the push that helped them survive and maybe even get past their nugu stage. But they were all elliminated too soon. Rayeon was made to seem like a less talented and less popular Bora (no hate to anyone, I love both Rayeon and Bora a lot). Doah was made to seem like she hated Cai Bing, who was one of the most popular contestantes, and thus fans of Cai Bing was outraged and tried to get her out of the show by voting against her. (What's funny is that I think Mnet tried to do it to build their "push Cai Bing out of the top 9 in the final episode" narrative, and it was actually supposed to make Doah seem better. Though Mnet didn't want her in the final top 9 either. But Cai Bing's elimination was supposed to be the shock value. Doah was just supposed to be eye-candy, and potentially a "worse" version of Jiwon, but I'm not to sure about that last one.) And then lastly, my lovely bias Chia Yi. She was just fully f*ing ignored. Like Chia Yi helped translate and solve the conflict between Cai Bing and Salute team. But if you want to see that you'll have to look at Chia Yi and watch her actions whilst Cai Bing is crying by her side. No text to say it, no zoom in, no nothing. Chia Yi solved the communication issues in the team and Mnet ignored her to build their narative against both Cai Bing, Doah and the other Salute team members. And thus all Fanatics members were no longer a part of gp999. And then I hoped that the company would use the momentum they got from the show to have a comeback. But Chia Yi went to Taiwan (which is nice, but does not make it sound like we are getting a comeback), and THEN Sika fully disappeared. And now here we are. With absolutly nothing from FENT and just the stuff the girls make for us themselves. So I can just hope and beg, but it's not looking great.
They debut as a subunit Then after they debut 1 year later After that 2 members took a break And the company just adds 2 more girls to group Making them 8 We were all expecting a ot8 comeback But then sika left And the group wasn’t really active
what you said at the end was especially telling, "every day that goes by they're losing opportunities". i hate to say it, but when a company refuses to properly manage their idols, i think leaving the company or even disbanding can be a better option. i started to think this way after pristin, when we waited for almost a full year of silence before the disbandment announcement. it was a waste of their time and talent. i feel the same way about clc; having been my ult group, seeing them be so mismanaged with their career basically sabotaged by their own company has me praying for a disbandment announcement. i hate to think the same for fanatics; i love these girls and i really hoped things would improve for them after gp999. rayeon especially was incredibly sweet when she answered my comment on one of her lives, so i was so excited when i saw she'd be on the show. sadly it seems like nothing has changed, and with many of them going toward solo activities like sika in china and doa with her youtube channel, i think it would be best for them to seek out better opportunities. probably a controversial opinion, but its how i feel. their ceo honestly scares the h*ll out of me and for the safety of the girls and their careers i hope there are major management changes for them, whether within their company or at another one.
My favorite song by them is their sub unit song Milkshake by Fancactics Flavor and I’m worried for them since their company doesn’t know how to take care of them. They could’ve gotten bigger but of course their company ⬇️
I love their songs so much, Starry Night is one of my favourite songs for sure, the choreography, the talents they have. I hate how they are treated by the company as the vlive just shows how awful group of people the girls have to be around to pursue their career. I will be not surprised if girls try to leave the company, it's absolutely disgusting how they are treated. I want the best for them, so either they gonna try escape or the company changes which I'm not gonna believe. Ps. The audio of the video is great!
I’ve always been a fan of this group. Their dancing and stage presence is amazing. They’re also adorable and fun and most importantly their songs are great. It sucks that they’re going through this.
After watching this, I am convinced everything is run by one guy. It would make sense why the company is so lazy with comunication and social medi. This guy already probably running everything else and socials and statements are probably the last thing on his mind.
I was thinking about making another Fanatics video since it’s been a year, but I’m a bit out of the loop and haven’t been keeping track of their recent activities. I’m glad fans are coming together and are still talking about them! Thank you for keeping me up to date! :)
both of them literally didn't participate in any up10tion's comebacks after they joined pdx101, wtf happened? :/ also i didn't see sika's playlist on their official channel. fent is literally messed up
You know something is off when the CEO is filming the Vlive….. like doesn’t he have a business to run? He’s literally just standing there and filming these girls
Doah got so much attention from GP999 but the company not doing a comeback asap is worrying. They need to be riding the GP999 wave NOW. I got into them thanks to the show and I legit enjoy their songs - although their main title tracks are not the best (which is probably a reason why they haven't gained much attention), all their b sides are AMAZING. I love Milkshake so much! And Starry Night is amazing tooo! I listen to it every day. Luckily Doah has an Etude contract right now, so hopefully that brings them attention too. I really enjoyed Chiayi and Rayeon on GP too. Yeah, even if you don't know the name FANATICS, EVERYONE in Kpop knows about /that/ vlive incident. OOHHHH that's why their link to the twitter on wiki didn't work the other day!! They changed it?! Maybe the company got bought out?
I hope fans don't give up on Fanatics. I didn't know about them until Starry Night but I really like their past eras as well and hope they can continue with at least some of the lineup. One of my other faves, GIRLKIND, was silent for a really long time but they've been more present since late 2020 and when something, releasing a physical copy of a single, would have been impossible they relied on their fans. Fanatics just has to ask for our help and the company needs to be more honest.
even though I really loved Vavi Girl, it would be better for them to leave that awful company, or even disband, because I dont want them to be mistreated. They deserve way better
There is no proof that purchase actually happened. And even if it did, a company buying another company doesn’t mean that that. For example when Hybe bought Pledis, pledis didn’t just vanish. Pledis is still a thing, it just works under hybe. Same would have happened if the Chinese actually bought FENT, most likely. The Chinese company would own FENT, but FENT would still be their own company and the girls would still be under that company. But again, I’m not sure that purchase ever happened in the first place
Truee. The company isn’t doing a good job in managing them. I love FANATICS but I think it would be better for them to disband than to continue being in the company.
I've been waiting for this video for a long time now!! When they changed their channel name to Fanatics Company I really freaked out a lot, also I'm super worried about them ever coming back or just being left behind (I don't think Starry Night is a proper comeback)
25:06 That’s because it’s happened before. It’s not uncommon for members to start personal accounts when groups disband since they’re often not allowed to have any while they’re in their respective groups. This was especially clear with groups like Pristin, where personal accounts started popping up and that’s when everyone kind of knew that they were done for. Don’t make it sound like fans are delusional for no reason lmao
What happens before ?? Literally the fans of this groups, shared a tweet about the members making their own instagrams, and most of them said that people were jumping to insane conclusions and this was no reason to suspect that the group was disbanding or disbanded. I also said that this wasn’t as big of a deal because two of the members have had personal instagrams for a while???
@@jihoonscarat ..I only explained why people commonly worry when idols start personal accounts. As you said in the video, Fanatics’ case is/was cleared up but just going by what has happened before it’s not odd for people to instantly panic
After hearing about how difficult it is to have a idol career in China it confuses me as to why she would willingly go there to try for one. It makes for sense that the company has disbanded the group of maybe disbanded part of the group. Kept only the members they feel are valuable, like the ones they were willing to send to girls planet. Absolutely just a theory though.
With all the few laws China is putting in place, yes it’s a very questionable decision. However those idols that’s are big in China are so popular, make a lot of money and over all are bad silly set for life
@@jihoonscarat like Luhan, Tao, and Victoria. They are LOVED!!! I watched one of the competition shows from last summer, the one they hosted and goodness does the public love them. Also one episode Kris was a guest and I was like “ohhh this won’t aged well. Regardless of the outcome at this point”.
It's insane that I've known of the group since the day (or two?) after their debut only because I found Mubeat and used it as my primary way of watching performances. "Follow Me" remains a superior song and I think them amazing for having it on their debut album. FLAVOR's "Milkshake" is still so addicting. I honestly didn't listen much to "Starry Night" because I was indeed disappointed that it wasn't all members, but the chorus lives on in my mind even to this day. You perfectly covered everything about Fanatics. I don't have a name to call myself and neither do the extremely supportive fans and that makes it harder to find fellow stans on Twitter, though maybe not as much as it used to be when the fandom was even smaller. I'm one of the ones who hoped for OT8 and at this point having Chaelin and Yoonhye with the other 5 girls is the best it gets (as they were the ones who were away during Vavi Girl) BUT Chaelin could be gone too? It saddens me. That they have a staff acc just to say they have one and never use it is not okay. None of the company's missteps are okay. Smaller company I understand, but they absolutely should have made announcements for EVERYTHING and yet the only one is the vlive incident because it made headlines. The fact that we can't even have what the girls talked about in those deleted vlives because the filming was gross is upsetting, and no I just want to hear and see the girls' FACES as they talk about stuff that's been going on and all that. I only expect to see legs in a dance practice, because otherwise there's no need. Waiting this long unsure of a full promoted comeback, watching as the time ticks by for this group who should be able to say that they have plenty of stage experience since they're going to celebrate their 3rd year of debut in just 5 months.. The company has wasted enough of their time. Maybe they didn't want to get overshadowed by Kep1er's debut, but I fear at this rate Kep1er will make a comeback before FANATICS does even though they're about to be occupied with filming Queendom season 2. I hope I'm wrong about that AND that the company's name change doesn't end up meaning anything negative or shady for the group. As soon as I learned of their rotating member concept I accepted it, but they seriously haven't even been able to show just a fraction of their potential with their lack of promotions. But at least with what they HAVE been able to show it's proof that they should get more opportunities. If all of the girls had been able to participate on Girls Planet 999 I think it wouldn't be a question of if they get a comeback but WHEN. Grateful you used your influence to raise awareness for them!
i came into kpop in 2013, and with all that i have witnessed with fledgling management agencies mismanaging their groups (9Muses, Spica, After School, Gfriend, The Legend, Wa$$up, CLC (yea, it's coming), Sonamoo, Chocolat, and so many more....it just simply seems like many kpop agencies just do not know what they are doing....and, yea, i actually liked Fanatics....
Seunghoon had his solo debut before enlisting, and Junyong also enlisted! I don't know why LUK Factory isn't giving the other members a comeback, though. Considering their history with their other groups, I wouldn't be surprised if they were stuck in the dungeon
@@mariadiallo5786 yeah. Sorry I should have clarified. I meant a group release. Oh I didn't know they enlisted but that makes sense. But still disappointing for the other members
Hi, I really like your videos and wondered if you would do a video about Ariaz. They are from Star Empire Entertainment, they debuted in 2019 I think with an album and did nothing in 2020. They came back with two singles this year but I don't think they were promoted. I wonder what their company is doing with them.
hi! i love ariaz and actually really want to make a video about them. so hopefully soon! i think the two songs they released were covers/remakes of old songs, so maybe thats why they didn't promote them OR that they dont have money. what i do know is that that company is shit
I watch your videos like these and discover new groups and their music that I always end up liking and immediately adde their songs to my Apple Music playlist 😂
That’s my hope with these videos ! And same here tbh, some of the groups I don’t know about before looking into them (like a recent video I made on BABA, so it’s super fun to find new songs to enjoy)
Wait... doesn't Weeekly also have the "each girl is a day of the week" concept, isn't that why Monday is her stage name? And here I am thinking Weeekly were the first to do that
I just checked and they do! I think most of these “member represent something” have mostly all been done before! But I didn’t actually know they did this week day thing before my research
They have also rotated members though and she rightfully pointed out that not all members have ever done music together, so that in and of itself isn't a worry-it's the Sika issue and possibly Chaelin that are the worry.
listening to this, i seriously hope they leave the company for good.. the company doesn't deserve this girls amazing talents.. Just go to a company that will treat them better and maybe they can redebut in a new better group
Fun fact! Rayeon actually pronounces her name in English Ray (like the sun) Yun (rhymes with fun) or like Nayeon in Korean. She speaks English fluently since she went to an international school.
can you please do a video on the kpop girl group nature? i started listening to them, however, i want to learn way more about them because their line up is pretty confusing and they have been on hiatus for over a year now.
UPDATE!!!!!!! NEW MUSIC!!!!!!: According to Rayeon on their livestream for Doyi's birthday 4-12-22, FANATICS will release a ballad OST, so NEW MUSIC IN A MONTH with an MV!!!! WHAAAAA!!!!!! :
their first big mistake was debuting on the same week as ROCKET PUNCH. I really had hopes for FANATICS but their music especially their 2nd release wasn't the best
I've wanted to ask this for over a year... now's my chance... are Doi and Doah related? It might be a stupidly obvious question, but I've never found any confirmation of it Really happy to see a Fanatics video from you. I'm also worried about the members, and I doubt their company will do anything good with the GP999 attention :/
@@jihoonscarat Yeah, not that I know of either. I wasn't sure if this was something nobody mentioned because everyone (except me) knew already, or if it's actually unconfirmed. I always wondered about it. Thank you! I love your videos, even though I don't comment much :)
Me coming back to this video months later to report not much has changed with the girls. Me going up to their agency and asking *Nicki Minaj voice* do we have a problem?
According to Rayeon on their livestream for Doyi's birthday last night, FANATICS will release a ballad OST, so NEW MUSIC IN A MONTH with an MV!!!! WHAAAAA!!!!!! :
Fantastic is literally being the next clc… clc was lucky they have sorn and eunbi and yeeun to promote there early career… so they didn’t disband. But I don’t know about fanatics… - also because of yujin fandom ( uttokis ) being 3rd also helped clc streams to Gain 10million.. I don’t know about fanatics.. they are literally in danger..
@@pacardoah7045 remember. Sorn promoted clc on radio shows, and RUclips and tiktok. Yeeun promoted clc in good girl, eunbi promoted clc in produce 101. That’s a lot of promotions And now yujin promoted clc by gp 999
@Jihoons Carat I just heard that Elris has been transferred from Hunus to IOK Entertainment (the agency of Sowon of GFriend and Hyosung of Secret). I was thinking that it would be much better if they get transferred to another agency. What do you say?
That would be good but I don’t know if Fanatics would. They have a fan base but maybe not big enough for a company to see them worth investing in. It’s all about money at the end of the day sadly
I think IOK wanted to sign Sohee since she is the most pontentially member out of the group, heck even YG and JYP were absolutely ready to sign her during that time but she went with Hunus because it is the first agency that offer her. IOK might think that hell just bring all the members here maybe because group usually does better than soloist capturing the crowd and also in term of sales unless you are IU. They are also not in the scenario like Gugudan whereby Sejeong and Mina public popularity literally towered way too high compared to the rest of the members are basically unknown. Nonetheless Elris finally will have their comeback, maybe the 131 label from BI (formerly iKON) will get involved for their album. And I also heard that IOK will seek advices from Sowon because the agency only specialized actors in the past not until they open out to investing idols recently, Sowon is a veteran and successful idol in the girl group so it kinda make sense
hi! i know i'm a bit late, but chiayi is pronounced jia yi (jee-a yee) :). just different from mainland spelling. also, chiayi is a city in taiwan :) edit - sika is pronounced (si (neutral tone, s as in snake) ka, :)
It's fine wearing them most of the time, but in this situation someone else wanted to reveal girls legs for bad reason's :( Many K-pop girls cover their legs when wearing short clothes to feel more comfortable, of course not all of them but a lot
it's not that simple. firstly, not everyone can afford to support financially. second, a lot of fans dont want to support the company, but want to support the group.
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I wanna correct the nationality of Sika. She is a Japanese and part of the Japanese trainee team of JYPE before, being the leader. She trained with Japanese TWICE members if my memory serves me.
Thank you. I had very mixed info. Like she had a Japanese name listed and her nationality as Chinese-Japanese and so I got very confused and more things pointed to Chinese. Thank you for that
@@jihoonscarat Yea, it's confusing with her. She is Japanese-Chinese; born in Japan but raised in China, so it's easy to be confused.
Shes chinese/japanese with a chinese citizenship:-)
@@jihoonscarat she’s Chinese but she lives in Japan since she was three years old
So she’s more comfortable in Japanese
I also heard/saw before she left JYPE Sika was supposed to be in NiziU. JYPE is also known to help their trainees aka if JYPE doesn’t think the trainee will suit the group or they don’t want to debut them yet they will tell the trainee about a group debuting in another company and ask if they wanna go there/or push them there I don’t know for sure how it goes but apparently it’s very common I’ve heard.
You don't have to believe me, but Sika was my roommate in a singing competition in Beijing, China which lasted a few weeks and she was the sweetest even though I had a very hard time communicating because I can barely speak mandarin. Back then, I didn't know she was a k-pop trainee so seeing this now as a k-pop stan breaks my heart. I hope she's okay wherever she is.
Seriously?
@@zadokthestoryteller6590 Yup! It was back in 2015 and Beijing held a competition where all Chinese teens from all over the world represent their country in a Chinese singing contest and I represented my country while she represented Japan!
@@columbiaslamb Wow! Can I ask which country that is?
@@soulsearcher7077 I represented the Philippines heh
wow! Thank you for sharing. I've always been curious to know whether there's any retroactive recognition for idols. What was your reaction when you found out she had debuted as an idol?
FINALLY, PLEASE STAN FANATICS AND CHERRY BULLET, THEY DESERVE MORE:(
are you gonna do a chebul video¿
i might! i have it on my list of topics!
And Pink Fantasy! They debuted sooooooo long ago and by the amount of recognition they actually have, you'd think they only debuted a day ago.
@@jihoonscarat Hi cutie debut 5 years ago and people think they are a rookie group
Back in the day making your own social media was kinda a sign that you left or the group was breaking up. After T-ara lots of companies put a really tight hold on their groups social media presence. Even now it can be iffy, look at Cignature. Both Sunn and YeAh opened Instagram accounts and only after fans demanded to know what was going on did the company finally say they had departed. It's not a sign of doom for established groups to open individual social media (Red Velvet, Apink, Blackpink, etc) but for a Rookie group it can be a yellow flag.
That’s true. But as fans tried to explain to those who were making a fuss, other members had social media already
I think the members opening their own Instagrams was a worry because of the older rule no personal social media. I get the concern. As for the group, I really hope they find their footing in the kpop world.
I would probably be more worried about the Instagrams, if Doah and Chiayi didn’t have their own way before this
honestly Chiayi should have went viral with her flips!!!
After all has happened I'm surprised that plenty of members are still on the group, I saw the red flags since the debut, as a fan you think things will be good but the pandemic just accelerated the process, I think they deserve so much but at this point a miracle is needed for them to continue.
when a group start with changing members is a red flag
They have also rotated members though and she rightfully pointed out that not all members have ever done music together, so that in and of itself isn't a worry-it's the Sika issue and possibly Chaelin that are the worry.
FANATICS are one of my favorite groups. They captivate me and "Sunday" perfectly painted the sound of long, hazy, warm end-of-summer nights and drives and the excitement of fresh, young love. It was heartbreaking seeing that debut get completely swallowed by fan's attention for Rocket Punch's (whom I also love and need more recognition) and CIX' debuts. And I was stunned when ChiaYi's "Vavi Girl" flips live didn't go viral-I really thought that could be their breakthrough moment to get attention, but nothing happened. Yes, sadly it appears that the ever-professional, constantly consistent Sika is gone and I hope Chaelin isn't also, with her unusual, husky voice (think Hyoyeon of SNSD) and great on-camera expression. I was under the impression that Color Star Technology *had* bought FENT according to kpop sites, but you're right, there is no way to tell for sure, which is one of the frustrating things about their company, whichever one is it. I hope and pray the group can rise, gain traction and recognition and be able to make a decent income from their efforts and the talents they are so blessed to do so well. FANATICS and hwaiting!
There's just so many groups debuting every year that it becomes extremely difficult for idols to gain attention and be successful, no matter how good they are. Unfortunately, if their companies suck at managing and promoting them, they will have little to no chance in having a good idol career. It's just so sad that fanatics is such a good group but their company just seems so bad :((
I have been following them since Milkshake, and I got there bc of Doah on PD48. I am beyond worried for them, since there is a possibility that they are facing abuse of some kind, or at least used to. I don't see them lasting long since it seems like they have a very unstable company and overall management. I don't want to be pessimistic, but I do think they will disband, and that saddens me because they are super talented and the mismanagement is proving detrimental. I entirely blame the company because I am more worried about their actions.
Man when you see so many of these girl groups performing with big colourful bubblegum smiles like they're in the bliss life, but knowing there's so many ordeals and drama following, from cars speeding, superstition, owed money, drama etc makes the presented images so....hmm at times. May they all get to live and enjoy the dream properly with dignity and respect.
Exactly 💀
Doah is the only one in the group who still got proper idol job
The rest of them became vloggers and the worst is Sika just disappeared…….
FENT please bring them back or just disband them…….
We just want a simple official statement to make sure our girls are okay
sika so active in weibo and she have many fans thats why #whereissika trending but other member....
@@pacardoah7045 I think her weibo account is deleted right?
@@violasun1468 yes but its active again she made douyin(tiktok china) acc too i think she signed in new agency
@@pacardoah7045 no……
I was hoping for a Fanatics some back with all 8 of them…….
Sika was my bias in Fanatics so I’m definitely still supporting her
I hope they can start group activities soon
@@pacardoah7045 could you link her weibo please? I want to see her : (
Before gp999 I was fearing that they would disband, because of the livestream "issues" and also because of the long wait between songs. And then when the 3 girls got announced for gp999 I was scared it was the end, but I was also hopeful that maybe gp999 could be the push that helped them survive and maybe even get past their nugu stage. But they were all elliminated too soon.
Rayeon was made to seem like a less talented and less popular Bora (no hate to anyone, I love both Rayeon and Bora a lot).
Doah was made to seem like she hated Cai Bing, who was one of the most popular contestantes, and thus fans of Cai Bing was outraged and tried to get her out of the show by voting against her. (What's funny is that I think Mnet tried to do it to build their "push Cai Bing out of the top 9 in the final episode" narrative, and it was actually supposed to make Doah seem better. Though Mnet didn't want her in the final top 9 either. But Cai Bing's elimination was supposed to be the shock value. Doah was just supposed to be eye-candy, and potentially a "worse" version of Jiwon, but I'm not to sure about that last one.)
And then lastly, my lovely bias Chia Yi. She was just fully f*ing ignored. Like Chia Yi helped translate and solve the conflict between Cai Bing and Salute team. But if you want to see that you'll have to look at Chia Yi and watch her actions whilst Cai Bing is crying by her side. No text to say it, no zoom in, no nothing. Chia Yi solved the communication issues in the team and Mnet ignored her to build their narative against both Cai Bing, Doah and the other Salute team members.
And thus all Fanatics members were no longer a part of gp999.
And then I hoped that the company would use the momentum they got from the show to have a comeback. But Chia Yi went to Taiwan (which is nice, but does not make it sound like we are getting a comeback), and THEN Sika fully disappeared.
And now here we are. With absolutly nothing from FENT and just the stuff the girls make for us themselves.
So I can just hope and beg, but it's not looking great.
I’m worried about them too so I am interested to see what points you will bring up.
They debut as a subunit
Then after they debut 1 year later
After that 2 members took a break
And the company just adds
2 more girls to group
Making them 8
We were all expecting a ot8 comeback
But then sika left
And the group wasn’t really active
i stanned them in vavi girl era and they have great potential :((
I'm so worried for fanatics too! They haven't had comeback in a while & I'll miss sika so bad if it's true she left, since she is my bias! :(
what you said at the end was especially telling, "every day that goes by they're losing opportunities". i hate to say it, but when a company refuses to properly manage their idols, i think leaving the company or even disbanding can be a better option. i started to think this way after pristin, when we waited for almost a full year of silence before the disbandment announcement. it was a waste of their time and talent. i feel the same way about clc; having been my ult group, seeing them be so mismanaged with their career basically sabotaged by their own company has me praying for a disbandment announcement. i hate to think the same for fanatics; i love these girls and i really hoped things would improve for them after gp999. rayeon especially was incredibly sweet when she answered my comment on one of her lives, so i was so excited when i saw she'd be on the show. sadly it seems like nothing has changed, and with many of them going toward solo activities like sika in china and doa with her youtube channel, i think it would be best for them to seek out better opportunities. probably a controversial opinion, but its how i feel. their ceo honestly scares the h*ll out of me and for the safety of the girls and their careers i hope there are major management changes for them, whether within their company or at another one.
Watched this live then went to check out the group, im now stanning them.
I hope their company gives them a comback soon, they have so much talent!
My favorite song by them is their sub unit song Milkshake by Fancactics Flavor and I’m worried for them since their company doesn’t know how to take care of them. They could’ve gotten bigger but of course their company ⬇️
i didnt really like milkshake when it came out, but while editing this video i started loving the song.
@@jihoonscarat that’s good. One of the reasons why I like it is because it kinda reminds me of Orange Caramel
That makes sense !
i LOVE that song so much. it’s one of my favs
I love their songs so much, Starry Night is one of my favourite songs for sure, the choreography, the talents they have. I hate how they are treated by the company as the vlive just shows how awful group of people the girls have to be around to pursue their career. I will be not surprised if girls try to leave the company, it's absolutely disgusting how they are treated. I want the best for them, so either they gonna try escape or the company changes which I'm not gonna believe.
Ps.
The audio of the video is great!
I’ve always been a fan of this group. Their dancing and stage presence is amazing. They’re also adorable and fun and most importantly their songs are great. It sucks that they’re going through this.
The most common sign that a company is shady: multiple occasions of "the company has never released a statement about it"
After watching this, I am convinced everything is run by one guy. It would make sense why the company is so lazy with comunication and social medi. This guy already probably running everything else and socials and statements are probably the last thing on his mind.
When will Jihoons carat not be worried 😣
oh man probably never
also I just noticed your @ lxhxzhusnd
when these companies stop fucking around 😣
I was thinking about making another Fanatics video since it’s been a year, but I’m a bit out of the loop and haven’t been keeping track of their recent activities. I’m glad fans are coming together and are still talking about them! Thank you for keeping me up to date! :)
The thing about Sika reminds me of how TOP Media is treating Jinhyuk and Wooseok. And I could rant about that company for days 😑
both of them literally didn't participate in any up10tion's comebacks after they joined pdx101, wtf happened? :/
also i didn't see sika's playlist on their official channel. fent is literally messed up
I fell in love with Rayeon during the show :( I really want them to succeed...
Not the Fergie clip 😭✋
😂 I had to
You know something is off when the CEO is filming the Vlive….. like doesn’t he have a business to run? He’s literally just standing there and filming these girls
God I really hope Doah and the rest of the girls get a chance to either find a new group or find success in Fanatics
Great work as always. Best of luck to these talented ladies.
Doah got so much attention from GP999 but the company not doing a comeback asap is worrying. They need to be riding the GP999 wave NOW. I got into them thanks to the show and I legit enjoy their songs - although their main title tracks are not the best (which is probably a reason why they haven't gained much attention), all their b sides are AMAZING. I love Milkshake so much! And Starry Night is amazing tooo! I listen to it every day. Luckily Doah has an Etude contract right now, so hopefully that brings them attention too. I really enjoyed Chiayi and Rayeon on GP too. Yeah, even if you don't know the name FANATICS, EVERYONE in Kpop knows about /that/ vlive incident. OOHHHH that's why their link to the twitter on wiki didn't work the other day!! They changed it?! Maybe the company got bought out?
I hope fans don't give up on Fanatics. I didn't know about them until Starry Night but I really like their past eras as well and hope they can continue with at least some of the lineup. One of my other faves, GIRLKIND, was silent for a really long time but they've been more present since late 2020 and when something, releasing a physical copy of a single, would have been impossible they relied on their fans. Fanatics just has to ask for our help and the company needs to be more honest.
Love your videos! Your voice is very good for narrating and you don't add unnecessary information, you know how to keep it interesting
Awh thank you so much 🥰
Somehow they got on my recommendations on YT during the Vavi Girl era and I’ve loved them ever since. But haven’t heard anything from them in so long
Sorry. It was Sunday their debut that I got into them but it wasn’t until Vavi Girl that I really got into them with their awesome vocals
I didn’t even know that DoAh was in Girl’s Planet. She was one of my picks and I was sad to see her gone. I didn’t even know she was in Fanatics
That flip woah thing was so funny 🤣
even though I really loved Vavi Girl, it would be better for them to leave that awful company, or even disband, because I dont want them to be mistreated. They deserve way better
their company was bought by a chinesr one so basically they already left the company that mistreated them
There is no proof that purchase actually happened. And even if it did, a company buying another company doesn’t mean that that. For example when Hybe bought Pledis, pledis didn’t just vanish. Pledis is still a thing, it just works under hybe. Same would have happened if the Chinese actually bought FENT, most likely. The Chinese company would own FENT, but FENT would still be their own company and the girls would still be under that company. But again, I’m not sure that purchase ever happened in the first place
Truee. The company isn’t doing a good job in managing them. I love FANATICS but I think it would be better for them to disband than to continue being in the company.
I've been waiting for this video for a long time now!! When they changed their channel name to Fanatics Company I really freaked out a lot, also I'm super worried about them ever coming back or just being left behind (I don't think Starry Night is a proper comeback)
25:06 That’s because it’s happened before. It’s not uncommon for members to start personal accounts when groups disband since they’re often not allowed to have any while they’re in their respective groups. This was especially clear with groups like Pristin, where personal accounts started popping up and that’s when everyone kind of knew that they were done for. Don’t make it sound like fans are delusional for no reason lmao
What happens before ?? Literally the fans of this groups, shared a tweet about the members making their own instagrams, and most of them said that people were jumping to insane conclusions and this was no reason to suspect that the group was disbanding or disbanded. I also said that this wasn’t as big of a deal because two of the members have had personal instagrams for a while???
@@jihoonscarat ..I only explained why people commonly worry when idols start personal accounts. As you said in the video, Fanatics’ case is/was cleared up but just going by what has happened before it’s not odd for people to instantly panic
After hearing about how difficult it is to have a idol career in China it confuses me as to why she would willingly go there to try for one. It makes for sense that the company has disbanded the group of maybe disbanded part of the group. Kept only the members they feel are valuable, like the ones they were willing to send to girls planet. Absolutely just a theory though.
With all the few laws China is putting in place, yes it’s a very questionable decision. However those idols that’s are big in China are so popular, make a lot of money and over all are bad silly set for life
@@jihoonscarat like Luhan, Tao, and Victoria. They are LOVED!!! I watched one of the competition shows from last summer, the one they hosted and goodness does the public love them. Also one episode Kris was a guest and I was like “ohhh this won’t aged well. Regardless of the outcome at this point”.
Sunday is a bop and one of my favorite songs! I’m so sad that Fanatics gets so mistreated and I’m also sad that Sika already left the group.
I love that you make those kind of commentary videos about Kpop, they are a few Kpop channels who abord such topics. Keep going love your content!
Thank you so much
It's insane that I've known of the group since the day (or two?) after their debut only because I found Mubeat and used it as my primary way of watching performances. "Follow Me" remains a superior song and I think them amazing for having it on their debut album. FLAVOR's "Milkshake" is still so addicting. I honestly didn't listen much to "Starry Night" because I was indeed disappointed that it wasn't all members, but the chorus lives on in my mind even to this day. You perfectly covered everything about Fanatics.
I don't have a name to call myself and neither do the extremely supportive fans and that makes it harder to find fellow stans on Twitter, though maybe not as much as it used to be when the fandom was even smaller. I'm one of the ones who hoped for OT8 and at this point having Chaelin and Yoonhye with the other 5 girls is the best it gets (as they were the ones who were away during Vavi Girl) BUT Chaelin could be gone too? It saddens me. That they have a staff acc just to say they have one and never use it is not okay. None of the company's missteps are okay. Smaller company I understand, but they absolutely should have made announcements for EVERYTHING and yet the only one is the vlive incident because it made headlines. The fact that we can't even have what the girls talked about in those deleted vlives because the filming was gross is upsetting, and no I just want to hear and see the girls' FACES as they talk about stuff that's been going on and all that. I only expect to see legs in a dance practice, because otherwise there's no need.
Waiting this long unsure of a full promoted comeback, watching as the time ticks by for this group who should be able to say that they have plenty of stage experience since they're going to celebrate their 3rd year of debut in just 5 months.. The company has wasted enough of their time. Maybe they didn't want to get overshadowed by Kep1er's debut, but I fear at this rate Kep1er will make a comeback before FANATICS does even though they're about to be occupied with filming Queendom season 2. I hope I'm wrong about that AND that the company's name change doesn't end up meaning anything negative or shady for the group. As soon as I learned of their rotating member concept I accepted it, but they seriously haven't even been able to show just a fraction of their potential with their lack of promotions. But at least with what they HAVE been able to show it's proof that they should get more opportunities. If all of the girls had been able to participate on Girls Planet 999 I think it wouldn't be a question of if they get a comeback but WHEN. Grateful you used your influence to raise awareness for them!
Their company needs to 🔥
i came into kpop in 2013, and with all that i have witnessed with fledgling management agencies mismanaging their groups (9Muses, Spica, After School, Gfriend, The Legend, Wa$$up, CLC (yea, it's coming), Sonamoo, Chocolat, and so many more....it just simply seems like many kpop agencies just do not know what they are doing....and, yea, i actually liked Fanatics....
I can't with you and that flipping clip🤣🤣🤣
Doah deserves to be in a popular group, she's so talented
i'm sorry but the clip of the jump rope dance with fergie audio over it sent me to the moon 💀
Update: it was confirmed by Sika herself in 2022 on a Chinese app that she was actually hit and the staff told her to lie about it
This was a really well researched video. Can you please do a video about Noir? They haven't released music (as a group) since April 2020
Seunghoon had his solo debut before enlisting, and Junyong also enlisted! I don't know why LUK Factory isn't giving the other members a comeback, though. Considering their history with their other groups, I wouldn't be surprised if they were stuck in the dungeon
@@mariadiallo5786 yeah. Sorry I should have clarified. I meant a group release. Oh I didn't know they enlisted but that makes sense. But still disappointing for the other members
Hi, I really like your videos and wondered if you would do a video about Ariaz. They are from Star Empire Entertainment, they debuted in 2019 I think with an album and did nothing in 2020. They came back with two singles this year but I don't think they were promoted. I wonder what their company is doing with them.
hi! i love ariaz and actually really want to make a video about them. so hopefully soon! i think the two songs they released were covers/remakes of old songs, so maybe thats why they didn't promote them OR that they dont have money. what i do know is that that company is shit
@@jihoonscarat Yes it's true, their company really sucks. I hope they didn't already give up on them.
Not you making Chiayi have a Fergie moment.
I watch your videos like these and discover new groups and their music that I always end up liking and immediately adde their songs to my Apple Music playlist 😂
That’s my hope with these videos ! And same here tbh, some of the groups I don’t know about before looking into them (like a recent video I made on BABA, so it’s super fun to find new songs to enjoy)
Their vavi girl ep is one my favorites. I don’t want to see them disband
Wait... doesn't Weeekly also have the "each girl is a day of the week" concept, isn't that why Monday is her stage name? And here I am thinking Weeekly were the first to do that
I just checked and they do! I think most of these “member represent something” have mostly all been done before! But I didn’t actually know they did this week day thing before my research
Weeekly debuted in 2020 and Fanatics used that concept in 2019 so how were Weeekly the first ones ...
I don't think Play M ent even knew about Fanatics when they created Weeekly since they're a nugu group.
Fanatics did it first than them, but it's not such an uncommon concept. I think I had seen it before, but I can't remember which group.
@@juliaabreus I think that might be Loona that you're thinking about, but they are represented by months so I'm not sure
tysm for making this video
Of course it started with lineup changes.
They have also rotated members though and she rightfully pointed out that not all members have ever done music together, so that in and of itself isn't a worry-it's the Sika issue and possibly Chaelin that are the worry.
listening to this, i seriously hope they leave the company for good.. the company doesn't deserve this girls amazing talents.. Just go to a company that will treat them better and maybe they can redebut in a new better group
Fun fact! Rayeon actually pronounces her name in English Ray (like the sun) Yun (rhymes with fun) or like Nayeon in Korean. She speaks English fluently since she went to an international school.
ma fav girlgroup 😢😢😢 i dont understand what fent is doing and im just tired
can you please do a video on the kpop girl group nature? i started listening to them, however, i want to learn way more about them because their line up is pretty confusing and they have been on hiatus for over a year now.
not the fergie clip XD
Can you do something like this to Secret Number (nugu kpop girl group)
They arent nugu
Omg this company seems so eerie, so unprofessional and perverted. I hope the girls are safe
Sunday was one of the BEST songs ever.
UPDATE!!!!!!! NEW MUSIC!!!!!!: According to Rayeon on their livestream for Doyi's birthday 4-12-22, FANATICS will release a ballad OST, so NEW MUSIC IN A MONTH with an MV!!!! WHAAAAA!!!!!! :
Really? I've read somewhere else that it's a Rayeon solo only...
their first big mistake was debuting on the same week as ROCKET PUNCH. I really had hopes for FANATICS but their music especially their 2nd release wasn't the best
Why did I read it as 'I'm worried about Fanfics' at first-- 💀
Sunday is A WHOLE BOP
I have 0 interest in Fanatics but Sika was the only one who sparked my interest. I found her quirky in a way. I do hope they are able to survive.
I've wanted to ask this for over a year... now's my chance... are Doi and Doah related? It might be a stupidly obvious question, but I've never found any confirmation of it
Really happy to see a Fanatics video from you. I'm also worried about the members, and I doubt their company will do anything good with the GP999 attention :/
not that i know of at least?
@@jihoonscarat Yeah, not that I know of either. I wasn't sure if this was something nobody mentioned because everyone (except me) knew already, or if it's actually unconfirmed. I always wondered about it. Thank you! I love your videos, even though I don't comment much :)
@@user-my9ob9cd7q I at least saw nothing about it and so believe they aren’t related. And thank you for very much I appreciate anyone who watches
not sure if you do boy groups but i would love to see a video on bae173 ! Two members debuted in x1 but they disbanded :/
@Mario Lapousi no, don't worry, they're coming back
The girls who went on gp999 have posted individual covers to the official channel- I'm holding hope that they have a comeback soon!!!♡♡♡
Me coming back to this video months later to report not much has changed with the girls.
Me going up to their agency and asking *Nicki Minaj voice* do we have a problem?
According to Rayeon on their livestream for Doyi's birthday last night, FANATICS will release a ballad OST, so NEW MUSIC IN A MONTH with an MV!!!! WHAAAAA!!!!!! :
Her name is more said "chayi". Btw your audio is fine, thank you for the video!
Thank you. I had a fan tell me this is how to say it then I heard other people say it another way and it was very confusing to me hahah.
i think the video sounds good btw!!
I wish you'd do 2eyes or Playback next because they are basically disbanded at this point and nothing will happen.
As far as I know, several Playback members turned to acting... The same goes with 2eyes
Yass the transition music promoting gwsn
finallyyyy a fanatics video
FANATICS NEED FANDOM NAME !!!
Fantastic is literally being the next clc… clc was lucky they have sorn and eunbi and yeeun to promote there early career… so they didn’t disband. But I don’t know about fanatics…
- also because of yujin fandom ( uttokis ) being 3rd also helped clc streams to Gain 10million..
I don’t know about fanatics.. they are literally in danger..
just doah can promote fanatocs but she didnt do promote to all member:)
@@pacardoah7045 remember. Sorn promoted clc on radio shows, and RUclips and tiktok. Yeeun promoted clc in good girl, eunbi promoted clc in produce 101. That’s a lot of promotions
And now yujin promoted clc by gp 999
LOL NOT THE FERGIE FLIPPING REFERENCE.
Your audio sound so much clearer
listen starry night y'all
Hey can you please make a video on Boystory. they are under jyp but they're cpop. They are literally so underrated 🤧
I’ll check them out
@@jihoonscarat ok thanks 😊
They deserve so much better they have incredible talents especially doah
fanatics sounds like fandome name
@Jihoons Carat I just heard that Elris has been transferred from Hunus to IOK Entertainment (the agency of Sowon of GFriend and Hyosung of Secret). I was thinking that it would be much better if they get transferred to another agency. What do you say?
I am very hopeful! Specially since the whole group moved. This hopefully means a comeback and that the girls and company haven’t given up completely!
@@jihoonscarat What about Fanatics? I sure hope they get transferred to another agency as well.
That would be good but I don’t know if Fanatics would. They have a fan base but maybe not big enough for a company to see them worth investing in. It’s all about money at the end of the day sadly
@@jihoonscarat I think that point about money is true even for girl groups from the Big 3 + HYBE agencies. Don't you think?
I think IOK wanted to sign Sohee since she is the most pontentially member out of the group, heck even YG and JYP were absolutely ready to sign her during that time but she went with Hunus because it is the first agency that offer her. IOK might think that hell just bring all the members here maybe because group usually does better than soloist capturing the crowd and also in term of sales unless you are IU. They are also not in the scenario like Gugudan whereby Sejeong and Mina public popularity literally towered way too high compared to the rest of the members are basically unknown. Nonetheless Elris finally will have their comeback, maybe the 131 label from BI (formerly iKON) will get involved for their album. And I also heard that IOK will seek advices from Sowon because the agency only specialized actors in the past not until they open out to investing idols recently, Sowon is a veteran and successful idol in the girl group so it kinda make sense
Not the fergie clip sis🤣🤣
alsooo can you make video on cross gene?
Stan FANATICS y'all. Stop sleeping on them 😭
the members all r talented..but the company just suck
*i'm sorry but the ugly laugh i made at @ **4:55** is insane 😭 had to pause the video to calm myself from laughing*
hi! i know i'm a bit late, but chiayi is pronounced jia yi (jee-a yee) :). just different from mainland spelling. also, chiayi is a city in taiwan :)
edit - sika is pronounced (si (neutral tone, s as in snake) ka, :)
Oh thank you! A fan told me to say it that way and it was super hard to find a correct way of saying because all the answers were different
@@jihoonscarat no problem!! :)
i'm so worried for them
member themselves edit and record their youtube vlogs on their own phones. they clearly don't have any staff
I thought Korean girl covering Thier leg because it's cold .. .. .
they are dancing short and skirt. I thought it's fine wearing it.
It's fine wearing them most of the time, but in this situation someone else wanted to reveal girls legs for bad reason's :(
Many K-pop girls cover their legs when wearing short clothes to feel more comfortable, of course not all of them but a lot
Y’all keep complaining but y’all literally go buy it now it might save the,
it's not that simple. firstly, not everyone can afford to support financially. second, a lot of fans dont want to support the company, but want to support the group.