What annoys me most is Fantagio's inability to learn from their mistakes. They've had nearly a decade since HV's debut to figure out how to promote a girlgroup properly, but they're STILL failing with WeMe, even though having Doyeon and Yoojung's I.O.I popularity was literally a foot in the industry door before they even debuted. Like HOW are they still failing? TikiTaka is suuuuper popular in Korea but got zero promotion, Doyeon and Yoojung are both still active in the acting/reality show sphere but Fantagio never jumps on the momentum of that popularity to help boost a comeback. 'Cool' was super popular compared to their previous tracks, Fantagio should've been quick to push out another album while the hype was still there, but it's been almost eight months of silence. And it's not even like they're busy promoting Astro, the boys only have only had 1 group comeback this past year! Also, shockingly, Moonbin is technically the oldest employee under Fantagio, he's been there longer than ALL the staff (including the CEO, since the previous one got replaced), and I kinda think that speaks for itself. FanMu have literally no idea what they're doing.
@@JamesCedricAlowaCureg They didn't "take" HV from Pledis though? It was a shared debut project between the two companies. Then in typical Pledis fashion when a girl group isn't immediately making millions, they gave up on the project and pulled out of the contract - so the girls who were signed under Pledis had to leave, and Fantagio had to replace them with new members. A lot of HV's initial struggles were because of Pledis being a terrible company that can't commit to the longterm success of their groups.
@@greeng6914 and giving astro not one but TWO versions of their lightstick and seongwu one right after debut, giving astro high quality mvs, tons of promotions and dramas, but suddenly with weki meki and hello venus they are broke 🤔
HV are my all-time ult group, thank you for making this video! Fun fact: during the months before the release of "Mystery of Venus," Fantagio was promising fans that it would be a full album. But of course that didn't happen and we only got one new song. But it's very uncommon for less successful groups to get a full album, so I'm not surprised. I also thought it was so strange that half the girls changed their stage names after the group disbanded. It was like they were going into witness protection. I'm glad my bias Seoyoung kept her name. She and Yeoreum are so underrated! Seoyoung seems happy doing musicals but I'd love to see her in a drama or movie one day. Or coming back to music. Another fun fact: Yoonjo is still super close with the HV members and she has reunited with them several times.
Let talk about how Sticky Sticky got hate for absolutely no reason besides people not like the implications of the name. Wiggle Wiggles video was so disrespectful but what do you expect when a broke company puts effort into the comeback thats ignored. It happened with Dia's Mr. Potter comeback
Tbh, I was never fond of HELLOVENUS'es previous music style, the one they switched to after going strictly to Fantagio, was really good... I mean it is Brave Sound, they can't manage groups well, but damn do they make catchy songs!
Your voice is so comforting, when you explain the timeline and everything is just so nice to listen to, as if I was listening to a podcast. You make great content! Keep it up!
Now that you mansioned it, yeah. :D She's my "addiction channel", I watch every video. Lol It's informative, sometimes short or long and you can "actively" or "passively" watch them which is awsome!
@@dragonrider4279 Yeah! I always come back to this channel whenever i want to binge watch a long video or to just tune in to one of her unboxing videos, she's so chill and informative you don't even realize an hour passing when you watch her long company videos
And now Weki Meki (from Fantagio) hasn't had a comeback in 8 months, when their most recent comeback was the most successful one they've had, and they have 2 IOI members. Fantagio is also in serious money trouble. Fantagio is still alive because they got lucky with Astro.
Stoooppp they’re my ult group and I’m still so sad about how bad they’ve been treated and the fact they were active for 7 years and didn’t get ONE win.
in 2018 fantagio had a bit of a scandal. i can't remember exactly what happened but it was something like the ceo sold majority of their shares to a chinese company and they lost their leadership because of it. 2018 was a pretty hard year as i ult both weki meki and astro, we thought they were going to have to disband (even after astro's always you we still weren't sure what was going on, we thought it might be a goodbye album). i think this played a bit into 1) why hello venus disbanded and 2) why they never got a comeback after mysterious. 💚 thank you for the video!! (ps. if the information is incorrect, feel free to correct me, my memory isn't very good)
A Chinese company or conglomerate suddenly took over the majority of the shares and kicked the CEO out. It was a huge uproar and it was investigated by the pertinent commission dedicated to entertainment bussiness, it affected a lot of actors and idols, but eventually, the company got through this.
Yes, the original CEO got unfairly replaced by the new Chinese one, a lot of the employees were not happy about this but unfortunately couldn't do anything about it. Finally this year tho, the corrupt Chinese CEO got arrested for some illegal activities & that's why now they have yet another CEO. It's very upsetting that the original CEO got kicked out like that because of the corrupt shareholders. The artists & staff were all like family back then. The story goes deeper & it's really sad how it affected their artists during those times, it's like a drama.
i've been stanning them since Venus (a literal bop even to this day) and their mistreatment broke my heart 😭😭😭 I'm happy that Nara is getting the recognition she deserves though!
The funny thing is that sticky sticky and wiggle wiggle are the only songs of theirs I know. Wiggle wiggle's choreo is cringe but the song goes hard lol
Facts. The song is so catchy, but I can’t bring myself to stream the music video because yikes. I remember when it first came out, rumors were going around that some of the girls were really uncomfortable with the choreography, and I don’t blame them.
I was really into Hello Venus when they first debuted, they were cute and I loved their songs. My favorite member back then was Yoo Ara so imagine my shock when she left! I'm glad Nara found success in acting and I hope the other girls also can achieve their goals.
tbh i loved hello venus during the pledis x fantagio days, when they split up and the sexy concept came it was....really bad. Like, they were spounsored by louis vuitton during would you stay for tea, that says a lot about their potential
I first got to know about Hello Venus after I watched Nara in an LGBTQ+ movie called *"Fantasy of the Girls"* . Trust me, it's a great movie and I salute Nara for playing a Lesbian while she's in a society as homophobic and closed minded as Korea. And btw Happy Pride everybody😊🏳️🌈
Thanks! :D Hope that you're also celebrating happily. Lol 🏳️🌈 (I just wish that the people who make emojis finally add more lbgtq flags, I miss my lesbian/bi flag. xD)
@@TayaFairley Hi! So it is available here, on RUclips as well or at least it used to be when I watched it a year ago. You can search it. Otherwise, you can go to "Kissasian" website and watch it for free over there. It has English subs on both platforms.
“Maybe fantagio just hates women”. I yelled. Where’s Weki Meki’s lightstick? Get em. I’m an Aroha but I can see what fantagio is doing to Weki Meki. I hope they don’t repeat what they did to Hello Venus to Weki Meki.
WeMestro are my ults too! I actually got into Astro through HelloVenus, since the girls were in To Be Continued, and I looked into iTeen project right before their debut and found my home as an Aroha, and through stanning HV and Astro I got to see WeMe debut too. 'Mysterious' was such an epic comeback, but got terrible promotion, and HV never even got their own Vlive channel to speak to their fans, they had to use the Fantagio one (and they rarely got to do vlives compared to WeMe and Astro). The only saving grace was when Astro, WeMe and HV got to do that Christmas single together, the song and MV is so damn cute and an absolute bop, I'm still mad they didn't get to promote it as a special stage together. :(
During their debut until the two companies split, they did more of a cutesy concept since let’s face it, Ara and Yoonjo can’t do well in sexy concepts. But Pledis manage to get them noticed until they almost got bankrupt. Fantagio kept managing them but it didn’t really spark anything for them which is unfortunate. So far, Weki Meki has a great discrography but since there’s way too many groups, it’s hard to get notice. Moving back to Hello Venus, if only the company waited for Ara and Yoonjo to be let go from Pledis, they could recruit them and didn’t have member line up changes. I seriously think Yeoreum was perfect for Weki Meki since she was so young. The massive concept sexy change just didn’t get the old fans grasping attention since it’s like following a new girl group. Weki Meki manage to pull off girl crush concept and stayed that way often. I just think it’s unfortunate since they could make it and back then they were more known than Dal Shabet which was their biggest rival in terms of rookies. Personally, Mysterious was probably the only good song from Fantagio and I’m Ill was the second.
Some things to add as I know a couple of bits of information that might flesh out the situation, Ara wanted to act, that might sound strange because she was such a good singer but that was part of the reason she agreed to be in Hello Venus in the first place to take advantage of Fantagio's expertise as an acting company, however she didn't get much work during the collaboration and that may have been a factor why she didn't join Fantagio after she left Pledis, she did join Urban Works which is another specialist acting company which shows the direction she wanted her career to go in but that seems to not have worked out and she left to continue her studies. Yoonjo did an interview in early 2015 in which she explained she didn't want to be in another girl group and probably the reason why Pledis didn't do much for her because she limited her own career, after she left Pledis she joined Subline Artist Agency which at the time was an agency that specialised in modelling, today it seems to be more well rounded but that's what it did back then. Given that Yoonjo probably had a two year contract with Subline it tracks that she left in 2017 just before she joined The Unit to try and have another crack at being in another girl group, I guess she had a change of heart, interestingly she posted on her Instagram video's of her practicing for her audition to join The Unit and she was practicing in Pledis's practice room so she must still be on good terms with Pledis.
This video was very informative especially since I didn't know much about Hello Venus but I remembered I saw their debut MV 'Venus' and 'Sticky Sticky' on a compilation somewhere on RUclips before, I didn't know NU'EST and pre-debut SVT made cameos in 'Venus'. It really sucks how they were treated and I agree being Pledis wouldn't have been any better than being in fantagio it probably would've been worse 💚
Yeeeeess!!! I was waiting for this video 😁. I know you always put effort on your videos and the result is great,so I'll watch pleasantly. Hello Venus was one of kind, they was doing their own thing
I loved Hello Venus so much & they deserved waaayyyyyy better than anything! I love their songs so much, it was sad when they disbanded, they had so much potential & their companies failed them very badly, my bias was & it's still going to be Lime I love every track they released, even after the concept change, they will always be one of my fav groups ever! ❤
honestly joint company effort groups could give you enough content to make videos about for the rest of the year. they just never work 😭 cosmic girls are probably the most successful one but yuehua shipped the chinese members off to china and it's clear they're never going back to korea. they're basically a single company group now and yeah as for them never getting a full album... if you notice that's the case for most girl groups. they're good enough to churn out mini albums here and there (sometimes maybe even just single albums and an instrumental to that song, if they're lucky), but never worthy enough to expand their discography+artistry through full albums. try looking into jyp groups for this example. that would be a nice video topic too!
I’m kinda worried for everglow already and who knows what’ll happen when they debut Tempest (upcoming boygroup). I hope Hanbin will be ok and I know he’ll be the one that makes his group popular due to being on I land and being the first ever male Vietnamese idol in kpop
🍏 Hello Venus debuted about the time I got into K-Pop, so i remember they were one of the first groups that I got into. My favorite song by them is What Are You Doing Today?, although Wiggle Wiggle and I'm Ill are a v close second. They rly don't make 'em like this anymore. (Those of you who be Knowin'^TM will catch the reference with the apple 😘)
Hello Venus was on a path to greatness, it's unfortunate the companies split up the group. That being said, I feel like Yoonjo didn't fit the same vibe as the rest of the group. I was hoping upon her return after her injury that she would show us amazing vocals and expressions, but she was just another member once she rejoined. Do You Want Some Tea was a fantastic song but it felt like Pledis barely promoted them or the song :/
I'm no on my phone so no emojis here (lol) but I think Hello Venus were pretty unlucky. When they debuted, many "cute" girl groups debuted so they were simply one out of 100. Pledis being Pledis and Fantagio being inexperienced with idol groups did not help obviously. Then the long hiatus and member changes happened, and when the girls finally came back - everyone was doing the more mature concepts. Instead of setting the trend or bringing something outstanding to the table, their management had Hello Venus try to follow the current trends, and it didn't work out. That being said, I remember seeing HV promote Venus on shows, and I've been somewhat excited for most of their comebacks. I still enjoy I'm Ill and Would You Like Some Tea?, while Wiggle Wiggle (a song that I liked back then) makes me cringe a bit now, lol.
I really really appreciate your videos on small or disbanded groups, most of the time i miss out a lot of information or just don’t feel like reading 100 different sites so your videos are really informative and i really appreciate your effort! thank youu ♡
This is my absolute favorite Kpop group!! They are sooo talented and completely underrated and imo their first releases are some of the best Kpop songs of all time! Tysm for this video! It was so detailed 💗 Alice is my bias 💗
When i discovered hellovenus i loved their songs. Venus ,what are you doing today ,would you stay for tea , sticky sticky ,wiggle wiggle( me twerking of the walls), I'm I'll (my ult bop) . I was sad they disbanded . I love your video btw and i just watched the pledis one too .
I originally discovered Hello Venus with the song I'm ill, I'm a huge EDM gg kpop fan, and that song is one of my forever top favorites, I didn't knew they sold less with the sexy concept, I had the wrong idea that sold more than their cute concept. As always another case of companies treating girl groups as second dish, makes me so mad.
I was a pledis stan so I supported HV but the switch to fantagio only was a blessing for their music style. I wish they had gotten more love for Wiggle Wiggle it is a BOP. After their disbandment I was shopping at Daiso in Seoul and heard 난 예슬이야 on the radio it was sad but also a happy moment for me. They truly deserved more.
Thank you for making this video! I've been a Hello Cupid since their debut and I feel that if they were given the proper chance, they could become more popular. I was questioning Fantagio's decision when they changed their concept to a more mature one, and they could've also given them better songs. I think they suited the fresh summer-y concept like Paradise and Glow, but too bad Fantagio sucked at promoting them.
Hello Venus was the first girl group I followed from debut & I admittedly love both concepts they promoted. My most precious k-pop album that I own is a signed copy of I'm Ill that I won from a competition on Arirang radio that I entered just to get it 😅
Great video 💚 i discovered them after they had already disbanded and i so so regret not getting into them earlier i love HV sm :( their potential honestly got wasted but i’m happy that some of the girls are getting into acting now
THANK YOUU 💓 absolutely loved this video and I felt like you covered everything so well. Hello Venus is my ult girl group and truly deserved so much more
I’m so glad you did this video! HelloVenus is one of my favorite groups, they deserved it so much better. I’m dying to see them working again, at least for a special stage...
Wiggle Wiggle. Both original and the Ariel Creations versions. Same with Sticky Sticky. Both versions. I have to agree, it's a shame they were never taken seriously and put out there for the world to eat up. I hope for the best of every one of those ladies. And that their successes grows more and more. ❤
I agree that if hello venus went under pledis they would've ended up worse. I think they'd just ended up hanging out in the basement with pristin when you look back at it, we'll never know for sure but they might've dodged a bullet there
I remember HV from my childhood! I loved wiggle wiggle and sticky sticky (the first songs I was introduced to) and would you have tea is one of my fave cute style kpop songs ever!! I’m so sad to hear about Alice’s treatment after leaving HV though :( sincerely hope she is happy now and AT PEACE after all that headache
i remember watching their mv back then, i was hooked instantly and the period of them disappearing was really rough. both pledis and fantagio did them dirty and fantagio promised us comebacks but they didn't give us what we were promised and even try to promote the girls properly
I liked both versions of the group and think they deserved better. They're underrated for a group that survived lineup and concept changes while still putting out some really catchy songs. I know most don't like I'm Ill but it's one of my favourites lol.
Oh my god! I had no idea that that was the girl in itaewon class. That’s CRAZY. I used to be a casual fan of hello Venus, and I never connected the dots
💚 i discovered hello venus because of their song wiggle wiggle. i love that so much until now. thanks for this video! i hardly know anything about them.
I know Hello Venus because I stan their labelmates Astro. Fantagio clearly wants to put most of their focus on what is the most popular (Astro was and still is). But also, you can't expect something to be popular with minimum effort. Astro have deserved their full albums and they haven't had a completely smooth ride either but the fact that Weki Meki don't still have their own full album pisses me off. They get a lot of singles and not a lot of side tracks so I feel like their discography is small even after soon 4 years. But about Hello Venus' disbandment, it might've been because Fantagio basically almost went to bankruptcy in 2018. I'm surprised they could hold up the monthly project that year. Even Astro only got a special mini album that year with no promotions, and the comeback date was delayed. Fantagio desperately held the company and their most popular groups intact, and clearly had no room for a group that didn't profit them anymore...it makes me sad, but maybe the girls are happier this way. I haven't listened to their music a lot but I liked their songs in the FM 20.18 project and I regularly listen to Mysterious! That song is a masterpiece, also the mv and the shiny jackets 👌🏻👌🏻
💚 I came to know them when I saw a video of predebut Seventeen interacting with them, training in the green basement and cameo on Venus mv. I like both phases of Hello venus, they sing and dance well, the charisma is outstanding, and they could have been bigger on SK and Asia. The sexy concept wasnt an issue bc that time many ggs tried "twerk style" like wassup but cmon lack of a decent music video and comfortable outfits, lack of promotions, lack of effort from pledis and later fantagio, members changes. The girls disappeared a lot too in both companies like you mention I have to admit the tracks that are still on my playlist is from their sexy/summer/latest cb
hii i just wanna say that your videos are really good and i love your content, it's very noticeable how much work and time you put on it, thank you for making such good videos!! also if you don't mind i suggest maybe making a video about ladies code? i know they have some history to dive into so if you're interested i think this would do a good video 💚🌱
Thanks for this video! I loved their cute songs 💚 Back in the they there was a huge scandal because Lime was caught using a pad I think, I remember it for the comments of netizens 👀 Anyways, I hope the girls are doing well 💚
I just recently learning about them this days such a pity that yoo ara and yoonjo leave the group,they contributed so much to the group also my favorite song of them is would you like some tea? ❤
I highly recommend one of my favorites b-side by them called chameleon💚 HV are one of the OG Girl groups in Kpop for me and I miss them so much, definitely a hidden gem for Kpop and they deserved so much better💚
I am a Girl Group stan, so I knew of Hello Venus but never stan or been on top of them. I got into Kpop before they came out with Mysterious. I also know them because of Wiggle Wiggle. I also know of Uni.t too. Even if it was a joke, I do think many companies, including Fantagio, don't like women, at least have a bias. But that will any company who has a girl group and a boy group. The girl group has to do extremely well to only have the company treat them better or as equal to boy groups, i.e. CUBE entertainment.
19:35 Is it just me or why are these shorts/"pants" so short that they more look like underwear than something that you would wear in public? Lol It's extremely short and too "thin" to be pants. Btw I'm happy to be an early bird here :D lmao I just hope that everyone is healthy, happy and doing well.
There’s one part of u talking about HV that kinda reminds me of Gugudan. Their last comeback was in 2017/2018, they released nothing in 2019, and then disbanded last year. 💚 my fave song by them is wiggle wiggle it was even on my Spotify unwrapped
i honestly never expected fantagio to act like this >.< i have been ulting astro for a very long time, and imo they never really mistreated them ( astro ). correct me if i'm wrong! fantagio also was having a hard time around 2018, the fans were really worried about groups disbanding. i dont think that fantagio is in trouble now. astro has been gaining so much attention lately! aroha's are really happy about that but i'm just hoping that they put more effort into weki meki. the girls are so talented >.
Wiggle wiggle is of the songs who deserving to be viral,NOW is an anthem,more people must listen and dancing with that
I agree! I've got a signed Wiggle Wiggle CD ... jus' sayin' n stuff! ^^ xD
@@AOAYUNARIA aaaah ,you lucky ♡
True wiggle wiggle is a bop..
@@twilightsparkle3073 what
@@shinobifujin wiggle wiggle is an amazing song ( a banger) .. and a song everyone needs to listen to
What annoys me most is Fantagio's inability to learn from their mistakes. They've had nearly a decade since HV's debut to figure out how to promote a girlgroup properly, but they're STILL failing with WeMe, even though having Doyeon and Yoojung's I.O.I popularity was literally a foot in the industry door before they even debuted. Like HOW are they still failing? TikiTaka is suuuuper popular in Korea but got zero promotion, Doyeon and Yoojung are both still active in the acting/reality show sphere but Fantagio never jumps on the momentum of that popularity to help boost a comeback. 'Cool' was super popular compared to their previous tracks, Fantagio should've been quick to push out another album while the hype was still there, but it's been almost eight months of silence. And it's not even like they're busy promoting Astro, the boys only have only had 1 group comeback this past year!
Also, shockingly, Moonbin is technically the oldest employee under Fantagio, he's been there longer than ALL the staff (including the CEO, since the previous one got replaced), and I kinda think that speaks for itself. FanMu have literally no idea what they're doing.
Yeah if the company doesn’t get their butt together they’ll wind up going bankrupt
What I hate from fantagio is they take hello Venus from pledis entertainment
Hello Venus got many digital sales well because pledis was famous back then because of after school masterpiece
That's why they know hello Venus will also be masterpiece
@@JamesCedricAlowaCureg They didn't "take" HV from Pledis though? It was a shared debut project between the two companies. Then in typical Pledis fashion when a girl group isn't immediately making millions, they gave up on the project and pulled out of the contract - so the girls who were signed under Pledis had to leave, and Fantagio had to replace them with new members. A lot of HV's initial struggles were because of Pledis being a terrible company that can't commit to the longterm success of their groups.
Its rlly sad how the company(s)treated them. They are so talented and has bops.
i love how they all kept hv (hello venus) in their ig handle
YASS WE LOVE THE FANTAGIO SLANDER!! MORE PPL NEED TO KNOW HOW BAD THAT COMPANY IS
I love their artist but Fantagio treat them so so so badly, and they are a financial mess
@@greeng6914 aw yeah, forcing doyeon to follow a diet that could k!ll her knowing about her sickness is something a good company would do 😍
@@greeng6914 also forcing Lime to do sexy concept when she told them that she was uncomfortable doing it, such a good company 🥰🥰🥰
@@greeng6914 and giving astro not one but TWO versions of their lightstick and seongwu one right after debut, giving astro high quality mvs, tons of promotions and dramas, but suddenly with weki meki and hello venus they are broke 🤔
@@greeng6914 yep, she admitted it here:
twitter.com/kstarlivecom/status/1169523057393721344?s=19
HV are my all-time ult group, thank you for making this video! Fun fact: during the months before the release of "Mystery of Venus," Fantagio was promising fans that it would be a full album. But of course that didn't happen and we only got one new song. But it's very uncommon for less successful groups to get a full album, so I'm not surprised.
I also thought it was so strange that half the girls changed their stage names after the group disbanded. It was like they were going into witness protection. I'm glad my bias Seoyoung kept her name. She and Yeoreum are so underrated! Seoyoung seems happy doing musicals but I'd love to see her in a drama or movie one day. Or coming back to music.
Another fun fact: Yoonjo is still super close with the HV members and she has reunited with them several times.
Let talk about how Sticky Sticky got hate for absolutely no reason besides people not like the implications of the name.
Wiggle Wiggles video was so disrespectful but what do you expect when a broke company puts effort into the comeback thats ignored.
It happened with Dia's Mr. Potter comeback
Sticky sticky was seen as an AOA song for a long time hello Venus was just called AOA 2.0
shut up
Tbh, I was never fond of HELLOVENUS'es previous music style, the one they switched to after going strictly to Fantagio, was really good... I mean it is Brave Sound, they can't manage groups well, but damn do they make catchy songs!
I agree, Brave makes good songs but he doesn’t know how to manage his artists very well
@@reveluvharu0506 yeah which is why I’m happy fearless was able to help BGs when he couldn’t. Now it’s BB’s turn
Your voice is so comforting, when you explain the timeline and everything is just so nice to listen to, as if I was listening to a podcast. You make great content! Keep it up!
Awh thank you so much 🥺
Now that you mansioned it, yeah. :D
She's my "addiction channel", I watch every video. Lol It's informative, sometimes short or long and you can "actively" or "passively" watch them which is awsome!
@@dragonrider4279 Yeah! I always come back to this channel whenever i want to binge watch a long video or to just tune in to one of her unboxing videos, she's so chill and informative you don't even realize an hour passing when you watch her long company videos
As an HelloCupid, who followed HelBi from their debut to their disbandment, thank you for doing this video!
And now Weki Meki (from Fantagio) hasn't had a comeback in 8 months, when their most recent comeback was the most successful one they've had, and they have 2 IOI members. Fantagio is also in serious money trouble.
Fantagio is still alive because they got lucky with Astro.
Now it’s been almost 2 years they just debuted a new boygroup
I'm glad that they're all successful actors
Stoooppp they’re my ult group and I’m still so sad about how bad they’ve been treated and the fact they were active for 7 years and didn’t get ONE win.
in 2018 fantagio had a bit of a scandal. i can't remember exactly what happened but it was something like the ceo sold majority of their shares to a chinese company and they lost their leadership because of it. 2018 was a pretty hard year as i ult both weki meki and astro, we thought they were going to have to disband (even after astro's always you we still weren't sure what was going on, we thought it might be a goodbye album). i think this played a bit into 1) why hello venus disbanded and 2) why they never got a comeback after mysterious. 💚 thank you for the video!!
(ps. if the information is incorrect, feel free to correct me, my memory isn't very good)
A Chinese company or conglomerate suddenly took over the majority of the shares and kicked the CEO out. It was a huge uproar and it was investigated by the pertinent commission dedicated to entertainment bussiness, it affected a lot of actors and idols, but eventually, the company got through this.
@@MERDADEGPLUS yes but last year they got 7 lawsuits😂😂
also they also changed ceo again this january 2021😂
Yes, the original CEO got unfairly replaced by the new Chinese one, a lot of the employees were not happy about this but unfortunately couldn't do anything about it. Finally this year tho, the corrupt Chinese CEO got arrested for some illegal activities & that's why now they have yet another CEO. It's very upsetting that the original CEO got kicked out like that because of the corrupt shareholders. The artists & staff were all like family back then. The story goes deeper & it's really sad how it affected their artists during those times, it's like a drama.
And bcz of that ASTRO never got to promote Rise up , they say the whole rise up was dedicated to fans.
i've been stanning them since Venus (a literal bop even to this day) and their mistreatment broke my heart 😭😭😭 I'm happy that Nara is getting the recognition she deserves though!
The funny thing is that sticky sticky and wiggle wiggle are the only songs of theirs I know. Wiggle wiggle's choreo is cringe but the song goes hard lol
Facts. The song is so catchy, but I can’t bring myself to stream the music video because yikes. I remember when it first came out, rumors were going around that some of the girls were really uncomfortable with the choreography, and I don’t blame them.
I’m 2 years late but I also recommend I’m ill
I was really into Hello Venus when they first debuted, they were cute and I loved their songs. My favorite member back then was Yoo Ara so imagine my shock when she left! I'm glad Nara found success in acting and I hope the other girls also can achieve their goals.
same Ara And nara
tbh i loved hello venus during the pledis x fantagio days, when they split up and the sexy concept came it was....really bad. Like, they were spounsored by louis vuitton during would you stay for tea, that says a lot about their potential
I first got to know about Hello Venus after I watched Nara in an LGBTQ+ movie called *"Fantasy of the Girls"* . Trust me, it's a great movie and I salute Nara for playing a Lesbian while she's in a society as homophobic and closed minded as Korea.
And btw Happy Pride everybody😊🏳️🌈
Thanks! :D Hope that you're also celebrating happily. Lol 🏳️🌈
(I just wish that the people who make emojis finally add more lbgtq flags, I miss my lesbian/bi flag. xD)
@@dragonrider4279 Awww, thank you. You have a safe pride too and totally agreed. More flags are needed!! 🥺
Where can I watch it ?
@@TayaFairley Hi! So it is available here, on RUclips as well or at least it used to be when I watched it a year ago. You can search it.
Otherwise, you can go to "Kissasian" website and watch it for free over there. It has English subs on both platforms.
Nara is really good in "My Mister", love that drama.
“Maybe fantagio just hates women”. I yelled. Where’s Weki Meki’s lightstick? Get em. I’m an Aroha but I can see what fantagio is doing to Weki Meki. I hope they don’t repeat what they did to Hello Venus to Weki Meki.
Also I didn’t know much about Hello Venus except their fm holiday collab so thank you.
Weki Meki technically has a ‘spatula’ 😅😭 that was the only lightstick we got
@@Itstheme122 years later and we finally got a real light stick
17:06 no they do hate women lol (and im saying this as someone who ults both weme and astro)
Lmao
WeMestro are my ults too! I actually got into Astro through HelloVenus, since the girls were in To Be Continued, and I looked into iTeen project right before their debut and found my home as an Aroha, and through stanning HV and Astro I got to see WeMe debut too. 'Mysterious' was such an epic comeback, but got terrible promotion, and HV never even got their own Vlive channel to speak to their fans, they had to use the Fantagio one (and they rarely got to do vlives compared to WeMe and Astro).
The only saving grace was when Astro, WeMe and HV got to do that Christmas single together, the song and MV is so damn cute and an absolute bop, I'm still mad they didn't get to promote it as a special stage together. :(
During their debut until the two companies split, they did more of a cutesy concept since let’s face it, Ara and Yoonjo can’t do well in sexy concepts. But Pledis manage to get them noticed until they almost got bankrupt. Fantagio kept managing them but it didn’t really spark anything for them which is unfortunate. So far, Weki Meki has a great discrography but since there’s way too many groups, it’s hard to get notice.
Moving back to Hello Venus, if only the company waited for Ara and Yoonjo to be let go from Pledis, they could recruit them and didn’t have member line up changes. I seriously think Yeoreum was perfect for Weki Meki since she was so young.
The massive concept sexy change just didn’t get the old fans grasping attention since it’s like following a new girl group. Weki Meki manage to pull off girl crush concept and stayed that way often. I just think it’s unfortunate since they could make it and back then they were more known than Dal Shabet which was their biggest rival in terms of rookies. Personally, Mysterious was probably the only good song from Fantagio and I’m Ill was the second.
Some things to add as I know a couple of bits of information that might flesh out the situation, Ara wanted to act, that might sound strange because she was such a good singer but that was part of the reason she agreed to be in Hello Venus in the first place to take advantage of Fantagio's expertise as an acting company, however she didn't get much work during the collaboration and that may have been a factor why she didn't join Fantagio after she left Pledis, she did join Urban Works which is another specialist acting company which shows the direction she wanted her career to go in but that seems to not have worked out and she left to continue her studies.
Yoonjo did an interview in early 2015 in which she explained she didn't want to be in another girl group and probably the reason why Pledis didn't do much for her because she limited her own career, after she left Pledis she joined Subline Artist Agency which at the time was an agency that specialised in modelling, today it seems to be more well rounded but that's what it did back then.
Given that Yoonjo probably had a two year contract with Subline it tracks that she left in 2017 just before she joined The Unit to try and have another crack at being in another girl group, I guess she had a change of heart, interestingly she posted on her Instagram video's of her practicing for her audition to join The Unit and she was practicing in Pledis's practice room so she must still be on good terms with Pledis.
This video was very informative especially since I didn't know much about Hello Venus but I remembered I saw their debut MV 'Venus' and 'Sticky Sticky' on a compilation somewhere on RUclips before, I didn't know NU'EST and pre-debut SVT made cameos in 'Venus'. It really sucks how they were treated and I agree being Pledis wouldn't have been any better than being in fantagio it probably would've been worse 💚
Wiggle wiggle and Mysterious were too good to be true.😭
"He's so dreamy, hot and creamy" will never escape my head.
literally some of my favorite songs ever, man :((
The fact that they still have hv in their IG names is so cute
Yeeeeess!!! I was waiting for this video 😁. I know you always put effort on your videos and the result is great,so I'll watch pleasantly. Hello Venus was one of kind, they was doing their own thing
Thank you I really appreciate that. I try my best 💕
I loved Hello Venus so much & they deserved waaayyyyyy better than anything! I love their songs so much, it was sad when they disbanded, they had so much potential & their companies failed them very badly, my bias was & it's still going to be Lime
I love every track they released, even after the concept change, they will always be one of my fav groups ever! ❤
honestly joint company effort groups could give you enough content to make videos about for the rest of the year. they just never work 😭 cosmic girls are probably the most successful one but yuehua shipped the chinese members off to china and it's clear they're never going back to korea. they're basically a single company group now
and yeah as for them never getting a full album... if you notice that's the case for most girl groups. they're good enough to churn out mini albums here and there (sometimes maybe even just single albums and an instrumental to that song, if they're lucky), but never worthy enough to expand their discography+artistry through full albums. try looking into jyp groups for this example. that would be a nice video topic too!
I’m kinda worried for everglow already and who knows what’ll happen when they debut Tempest (upcoming boygroup). I hope Hanbin will be ok and I know he’ll be the one that makes his group popular due to being on I land and being the first ever male Vietnamese idol in kpop
🍏 Hello Venus debuted about the time I got into K-Pop, so i remember they were one of the first groups that I got into. My favorite song by them is What Are You Doing Today?, although Wiggle Wiggle and I'm Ill are a v close second.
They rly don't make 'em like this anymore.
(Those of you who be Knowin'^TM will catch the reference with the apple 😘)
💚💚💚💚
It’s really sad what happened to them! I loved their music since debut and still am obsessed with Wiggle Wiggle 😆
Hello Venus was on a path to greatness, it's unfortunate the companies split up the group.
That being said, I feel like Yoonjo didn't fit the same vibe as the rest of the group. I was hoping upon her return after her injury that she would show us amazing vocals and expressions, but she was just another member once she rejoined.
Do You Want Some Tea was a fantastic song but it felt like Pledis barely promoted them or the song :/
Mysterious is a bop!!! Thank you for giving your time for that fighting
I'm no on my phone so no emojis here (lol) but I think Hello Venus were pretty unlucky. When they debuted, many "cute" girl groups debuted so they were simply one out of 100. Pledis being Pledis and Fantagio being inexperienced with idol groups did not help obviously.
Then the long hiatus and member changes happened, and when the girls finally came back - everyone was doing the more mature concepts. Instead of setting the trend or bringing something outstanding to the table, their management had Hello Venus try to follow the current trends, and it didn't work out.
That being said, I remember seeing HV promote Venus on shows, and I've been somewhat excited for most of their comebacks. I still enjoy I'm Ill and Would You Like Some Tea?, while Wiggle Wiggle (a song that I liked back then) makes me cringe a bit now, lol.
Regardless of being cute or sexy, i really like them, they're a really good group, but totally underrated.
3:13 omg baby wonwoo and woozi tho
I really really appreciate your videos on small or disbanded groups, most of the time i miss out a lot of information or just don’t feel like reading 100 different sites so your videos are really informative and i really appreciate your effort! thank youu ♡
This is my absolute favorite Kpop group!! They are sooo talented and completely underrated and imo their first releases are some of the best Kpop songs of all time! Tysm for this video! It was so detailed 💗 Alice is my bias 💗
When i discovered hellovenus i loved their songs.
Venus ,what are you doing today ,would you stay for tea , sticky sticky ,wiggle wiggle( me twerking of the walls), I'm I'll (my ult bop) .
I was sad they disbanded . I love your video btw and i just watched the pledis one too .
I originally discovered Hello Venus with the song I'm ill, I'm a huge EDM gg kpop fan, and that song is one of my forever top favorites, I didn't knew they sold less with the sexy concept, I had the wrong idea that sold more than their cute concept. As always another case of companies treating girl groups as second dish, makes me so mad.
Someone commented on the Pledis Entertainment video asking you to cover Hello Venus.......and here it is!
Yes ! I try my hardest to talk about topics people as for most of the time
I so wish Hello Venus got that music show win, they deserved it
I was a pledis stan so I supported HV but the switch to fantagio only was a blessing for their music style. I wish they had gotten more love for Wiggle Wiggle it is a BOP. After their disbandment I was shopping at Daiso in Seoul and heard 난 예슬이야 on the radio it was sad but also a happy moment for me. They truly deserved more.
I remember hearing about this group when I was a baby stan (like a week / 2 weeks in)
Saaame
You can hear the sound changes with each production company change. no wonder the group's concepts varied so much.
Thank you for making this video! I've been a Hello Cupid since their debut and I feel that if they were given the proper chance, they could become more popular. I was questioning Fantagio's decision when they changed their concept to a more mature one, and they could've also given them better songs. I think they suited the fresh summer-y concept like Paradise and Glow, but too bad Fantagio sucked at promoting them.
Hello Venus was the first girl group I followed from debut & I admittedly love both concepts they promoted.
My most precious k-pop album that I own is a signed copy of I'm Ill that I won from a competition on Arirang radio that I entered just to get it 😅
Great video 💚 i discovered them after they had already disbanded and i so so regret not getting into them earlier i love HV sm :( their potential honestly got wasted but i’m happy that some of the girls are getting into acting now
THANK YOUU 💓 absolutely loved this video and I felt like you covered everything so well. Hello Venus is my ult girl group and truly deserved so much more
Wow, I loved Ora's Naught Face song! I never knew that she was a member of Hello Venus! You just blew my mind.
Alice is so cute and dances so well. Her and Seolhyun are the ultimate aegyo.
Thank you for making this video!
Hello Venus will forever be one of my favorite groups! ❤️❤️❤️
It all went downhill when pledis dropped them and just had them go under fantagio
Doesnt help cuz Pledis themselves was going downhill at the time too lmao
Bro Fantagio was about to get sued in 2018 and the families of the group members invested to save the groups from disbandment. That says a lot .
I’m so glad you did this video! HelloVenus is one of my favorite groups, they deserved it so much better. I’m dying to see them working again, at least for a special stage...
oh man. this is gonna be insane.
Wiggle Wiggle. Both original and the Ariel Creations versions.
Same with Sticky Sticky. Both versions.
I have to agree, it's a shame they were never taken seriously and put out there for the world to eat up.
I hope for the best of every one of those ladies. And that their successes grows more and more. ❤
I agree that if hello venus went under pledis they would've ended up worse. I think they'd just ended up hanging out in the basement with pristin when you look back at it, we'll never know for sure but they might've dodged a bullet there
I remember HV from my childhood! I loved wiggle wiggle and sticky sticky (the first songs I was introduced to) and would you have tea is one of my fave cute style kpop songs ever!! I’m so sad to hear about Alice’s treatment after leaving HV though :( sincerely hope she is happy now and AT PEACE after all that headache
i remember watching their mv back then, i was hooked instantly and the period of them disappearing was really rough. both pledis and fantagio did them dirty and fantagio promised us comebacks but they didn't give us what we were promised and even try to promote the girls properly
Another great video and the only HV songs I know and liked were “Wiggle Wiggle”, “I’m Ill” and “ Mysterious”. 🥑🍃
I liked both versions of the group and think they deserved better. They're underrated for a group that survived lineup and concept changes while still putting out some really catchy songs. I know most don't like I'm Ill but it's one of my favourites lol.
Another group I found through your channel. I'm kinda new to Korean music so your videos are very informative. Great job!
hellovenus
Pledis and Fantagio has amazing girl groups but they always end up being under appreciated.
AS, HELLOVENUS, Pristin and WekiMeki. Like, dude...
Oh my god! I had no idea that that was the girl in itaewon class. That’s CRAZY. I used to be a casual fan of hello Venus, and I never connected the dots
i already know the stories of groups you talk about but i still watch the vids cuz they’re really interesting + your voice is really iconic HSJDJSJ
💚 i discovered hello venus because of their song wiggle wiggle. i love that so much until now. thanks for this video! i hardly know anything about them.
I miss them so much they were my first kpop girl group
I know Hello Venus because I stan their labelmates Astro. Fantagio clearly wants to put most of their focus on what is the most popular (Astro was and still is). But also, you can't expect something to be popular with minimum effort. Astro have deserved their full albums and they haven't had a completely smooth ride either but the fact that Weki Meki don't still have their own full album pisses me off. They get a lot of singles and not a lot of side tracks so I feel like their discography is small even after soon 4 years. But about Hello Venus' disbandment, it might've been because Fantagio basically almost went to bankruptcy in 2018. I'm surprised they could hold up the monthly project that year. Even Astro only got a special mini album that year with no promotions, and the comeback date was delayed. Fantagio desperately held the company and their most popular groups intact, and clearly had no room for a group that didn't profit them anymore...it makes me sad, but maybe the girls are happier this way. I haven't listened to their music a lot but I liked their songs in the FM 20.18 project and I regularly listen to Mysterious! That song is a masterpiece, also the mv and the shiny jackets 👌🏻👌🏻
Yeah I already know WeMe won’t renew their contracts and unfortunately fiesta may be their disbandment song :(
mysterious is such a banger! it was the first kpop choreography i ever learned
10 seconds into the vid: *mentions pledis entertainment*
Me: ohh makes sense now..
i knew about wiggle wiggle and mysterious from them, i hope they’re all doing well in whatever lives they’re living now 🍀
I’ve only listened to mysterious but I’m going to check out some of their other songs that I heard snippets of in this video 🌲🪴🎄🌿🌱🍀🐉☘️🌳
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I came to know them when I saw a video of predebut Seventeen interacting with them, training in the green basement and cameo on Venus mv.
I like both phases of Hello venus, they sing and dance well, the charisma is outstanding, and they could have been bigger on SK and Asia. The sexy concept wasnt an issue bc that time many ggs tried "twerk style" like wassup but cmon lack of a decent music video and comfortable outfits, lack of promotions, lack of effort from pledis and later fantagio, members changes. The girls disappeared a lot too in both companies like you mention
I have to admit the tracks that are still on my playlist is from their sexy/summer/latest cb
I always give your videos a like before even watching, bc I know it's gonna be great 💗
hii i just wanna say that your videos are really good and i love your content, it's very noticeable how much work and time you put on it, thank you for making such good videos!! also if you don't mind i suggest maybe making a video about ladies code? i know they have some history to dive into so if you're interested i think this would do a good video 💚🌱
this was crazyyyyyyy. the accuracy
Thank you, very informative. They are a group I have been curious about.
lime was one of the best kpop rappers period💯🫑
what's with the green pepper?😂
In short they're totally underrated
Wiggle wiggle is one of my fav songs ever
I loved HV so much !! 💚 i still know all the dances...
I really love their debut songs and their cute songs.
I'm just gonna wait till people actually hype them up after they disband cuz apparently that happens
Thanks for this video! I loved their cute songs 💚 Back in the they there was a huge scandal because Lime was caught using a pad I think, I remember it for the comments of netizens 👀 Anyways, I hope the girls are doing well 💚
Yay! You uploaded! 🥰
wingle wingle is my favorite hello venus song
I really love ur videos!
Thank you!
I just recently learning about them this days such a pity that yoo ara and yoonjo leave the group,they contributed so much to the group also my favorite song of them is would you like some tea? ❤
I highly recommend one of my favorites b-side by them called chameleon💚 HV are one of the OG Girl groups in Kpop for me and I miss them so much, definitely a hidden gem for Kpop and they deserved so much better💚
Would You Stay For Tea? is such a good song and I honestly wish it would go viral in 2021! It's so cute and refreshing!!!
I am a Girl Group stan, so I knew of Hello Venus but never stan or been on top of them. I got into Kpop before they came out with Mysterious. I also know them because of Wiggle Wiggle. I also know of Uni.t too. Even if it was a joke, I do think many companies, including Fantagio, don't like women, at least have a bias. But that will any company who has a girl group and a boy group. The girl group has to do extremely well to only have the company treat them better or as equal to boy groups, i.e. CUBE entertainment.
Gorgeous ladies, very pretty
Title : "how they got failed"
Video starts " Started by pledis"
Oh, there you go.
Lmao 😂
RIGHT!?
@@leticialima8304 still not over the fact that they let a rocky of the year group go to waste 🙄
@@ines3770 I honestly think it’s pretty impressive how they try really hard to mess up their groups!
I discovered them literally like a few days before they disbanded. They feel like "the one that got away" for me lol
Nice video and i hope the best for the hello venus members
19:35 Is it just me or why are these shorts/"pants" so short that they more look like underwear than something that you would wear in public? Lol It's extremely short and too "thin" to be pants.
Btw I'm happy to be an early bird here :D lmao
I just hope that everyone is healthy, happy and doing well.
I'm currently having a heat wave where I am, so yeah I can feel the summer!
Me who only hast hot weather all year round: 👁️👄👁️ it's always hot except when it rains
Watched the whole thing. Wiggle Wiggle was just over the top Brave Brothers, but it's actually a pretty good beat. And OMG, blonde Nara!
There’s one part of u talking about HV that kinda reminds me of Gugudan. Their last comeback was in 2017/2018, they released nothing in 2019, and then disbanded last year. 💚 my fave song by them is wiggle wiggle it was even on my Spotify unwrapped
i honestly never expected fantagio to act like this >.< i have been ulting astro for a very long time, and imo they never really mistreated them ( astro ). correct me if i'm wrong! fantagio also was having a hard time around 2018, the fans were really worried about groups disbanding. i dont think that fantagio is in trouble now. astro has been gaining so much attention lately! aroha's are really happy about that but i'm just hoping that they put more effort into weki meki. the girls are so talented >.
Early yayy ^^ I love ur vids
thank you so much ! 💕