Full respect for making such a good recovery from your neck injury Ant and thank you OMBE for such good advice with regards matching a board to ones ability.
I got so much out of this video, it really resonated with me. Ant and i are the same age and years surfing and i have built my quiver based around the short fat groveler to go fast in a straight line. Here on the south coast UK the waves are typically small and weak, and i have used this as the justification for the groveler heavy quiver., but i think i may need to rethink things a little. Thanks for the food for thought guys, great channel!
Great conversation with lots of helpful insights and wisdom. I’ve been surfing for 30 years but this is the first time I’ve thought about some of these things. So glad I can still be learning and improving at my age! Much thanks to you guys!! 🙏❤️
AWESOME channel, I'm on a binge of your vids. Thank you so much for the value you are providing, you seem like genuine guys aswell, definately keep the gaffs in 🤣 Cheers from Ireland. Subbed
Such an eye opener, epic content every intermediate thinks that a better board will fix their problems but as it is in life work on yourself then the equipment will do the talking for you...
Well a different board is often the answer.... Better might be the wrong word, depends on the waves or style of surf you're trying to achieve. Ant himself said he would have to hang up the board he shaped himself, that was his go to board, and now he realises that with his new found skills it's holding him back.
@@mrwardy7 I have 6 boards haha 3 midlengths, 2 funboards, and a shortboard I had board aquisition syndrome and thought if i get a short seaside or some type of fish that my surfing would improve thats why this video spoke to me now I know what board to use in what condition and where to position myself with my shortboard etc I catch waves easy enough I realize I have to now improve my technique before I buy another board...
Yea I hear you mate. There is so many variables though isn't there? .... A new board can make a big difference as you are improving from a beginner level.... I learned on a 45litre fun board..... Eventually bought a 36litre superbrand fling.... Love it and I caught so many more waves, but now feel like that's got too much volume for me, I have since bought a 33litre LSD noa, and it has improved my surfing a lot because of the lower litres making it more maneuverable. I have just picked up a superbrand black viper 31L, yet to ride it, but looking forward to seeing how that feels. Variety is the spice of life 😁🤙
After watching this video Ive realized one of my biggest mistakes as a "DIY, self taught/coached, go at it alone surfer" is when it comes to building my quiver I've made some really bad board decisions that seriously hampered my surfing. If I had to do it over again I'd develop a relationship with a shaper (though this looks like coach+shaper in one? not familiar with the channel) and put my trust in their knowledge and assessment- not the marketing blurb, what my friends/internet says, etc. There is something to be said about the 'cohesiveness' of this quiver...
Thanks for your comment and honesty. A relationship with a shaper is important but further than that is the knowledge you possess. Being able to assess conditions and pick the most appropriate piece of equipment is the ultimate goal.
Couple of questions… 1. Why does Ant not have or use a traditional thruster with a squash tail? Why the two variations of the same model as a quad with a swallow and round tail? 2. Seems like you’re pushing him away from the groveler. Is this because it’s really not totally necessary once you can shortboard in the mush? Does a groveler kinda hold you back? 3. I’m about the same size as Ant and was shocked to hear his normal volume is 32. Is this a pretty normal range you’d suggest for 185 cm and 86k, or does he ride lower than normal? Yewww, love the video
Ive been surfing for nearly 30yrs and started on an 8'0" mal with thruster fins and after a couple of years and being able to surf the mal pretty well(starting to do floaters / roundhouses ) i felt i needed a smaller more manouverable board to progress my surfing, i found that the right board seemed to appear and i could get it,(i gota 7'2" like a big shortboard) after that boards always seemed to turn up at the right time for me i never had to go looking..wierd! I now have 6 boards from 6'2" fish up to 7'2" gun but still love to ride the 8'0"mal as it was the board that taught me to surf with style and flow and to do smooth turns, i think the worst thing to do is try and learn to surf on a board under 7' 🤙
@@Mannsy83 if you feel its time to progress then keep an eye out for something a bit shorter but dont go too narrow you still want to catch waves easily just dont get a board that will set your surfing back its all about progression....and enjoyment! 👍
@@ombesurf Hi guys Surfed the wave pool Had a awesome surf Definitely improving Did my best top turn so far Still got a Long way to go Been practicing heaps on the skateboard for months now and making great progress Look forward to ombe Wednesday nights Plenty of gold nuggets which have fast tracked my surfing I have a mount that I attach to pool wall so I can take video on my phone , it works a treat Can’t wait for the weekend back at the wave pool 😀 Thanks again
I'm guessing Clayton made you boards to assist your development.. one to generate speed down the line, one to draw out your turns and small wave board. It seems as Ant has improved the width in the tail needs to be reduced to improve maneuverability and rail turns
kool..I always take a shorter board along but with the small mushy waves we get combined with my fitness and skill level I always end up taking out the 7'6....often wondered how You broke your neck but didnt want to ask..
Hey lads. Scotty from Logan here. I surf the goldie most of the time. I broke c1/c2 hangman years ago and am struggling with positioning etc. Would love some tips.
Awesome clip guys! Ant you look like a different surfer now compared to the wave pool clip! What model slyde hand plane is the small concave one? The Bula?
Please explain how you measure the 'volume' of a board! I come from an old place where you just used a tape measure: length, width, thickness. What's the secret to get to those bloody litres? Please explain in your reply!
Hi. Can somebody tell me size and wight of Ant? Refreshingly untypical talk on boards, but only half as valuable since not being able to put the board sizes into relation.
So funny you were talking about how you went about getting your first board and it was exactly how I did. I even watched the same guys reviews Then you said "and I got a lost puddle jumper hp" I almost lost it. I did the exact same thing. I knew I wasn't good enough to ride it, But I learned. It's a killer board, but not easy to learn on.
I don't think that was the point they were making. The point they were making was that the puddle jumper HP is a fat wide board and encourages the surfer to surf out on the shoulder instead of in the pocket. That being said I have a puddle jumper HP haha, but I'm hesitant to ride another board since a lot of the time I'm at very crowded breaks with tons of longboarders and it's already difficult enough to compete with them even on the PJHP
Surf boards Quiver.... Best Waves... Foward V... full concave... Concave to dooble concave in betwem da fins seth... Try doble concaves in front of fins to a deeeple single concave in between da fins seth.... Single...twins....twinzers... Only da surfer & da local REAL shapers will develop good quiver
How do you know when a 7/8ft foamie hire board is holding you back? And what should you think about changing to? I am very much a beginner, but because I am trying to catch green waves, perhaps I need a different board? However on the beach I surf at in Scotland, 80% of the time it is small waves... :(
The boards are fine. What I noticed is that you just don't know how to really speed and you are moving to short boards way to soon. Get your technic right is the first priority for you.
Hey Samuel, I'd say theres not such a thing as something good or bad when it comes to what you feel in the water. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration. Are you actually an intermediate surfer? What kind of waves are you surfing? What would you like to achieve? There's more than picking 'the right' board. I'd suggest to go here-> ombe.co/courses/surfing-analysis/ and assess your surfing. This could be very beneficial for you.
I feel like I’m living vicariously through this guy. I’m learning to surf later in life and I have EXACTLY the same thoughts haha
I just love surfing, surfboards and the passion around it. So happy to be apart of this family. Thanks guys
Thanks for the kind words Ian!
Full respect for making such a good recovery from your neck injury Ant and thank you OMBE for such good advice with regards matching a board to ones ability.
Great video. Its really good to see how Ant's surfing has genuinely improved working with Clayton.
Thanks!
Awesome ant keep up the great work, it’s so good to see you’re improvements.
I got so much out of this video, it really resonated with me. Ant and i are the same age and years surfing and i have built my quiver based around the short fat groveler to go fast in a straight line. Here on the south coast UK the waves are typically small and weak, and i have used this as the justification for the groveler heavy quiver., but i think i may need to rethink things a little. Thanks for the food for thought guys, great channel!
Great conversation with lots of helpful insights and wisdom. I’ve been surfing for 30 years but this is the first time I’ve thought about some of these things. So glad I can still be learning and improving at my age! Much thanks to you guys!! 🙏❤️
So glad it was helpful!
Are we all gonna ignore the human boardslide 14:19 😂😂?
Mate I rewound it 3 times, was sure i'd just seen a murder
Great video guys. Love your work!
Thanks Geraint!
AWESOME channel, I'm on a binge of your vids. Thank you so much for the value you are providing, you seem like genuine guys aswell, definately keep the gaffs in 🤣 Cheers from Ireland. Subbed
Love the handplane review. They are awesome fun. I sometimes put my board away and get handplane out to get closer to the waves. Great show 👍
I learned so much about boards from this video.
So good to hear!
Such an eye opener, epic content every intermediate thinks that a better board will fix their problems but as it is in life work on yourself then the equipment will do the talking for you...
Well a different board is often the answer.... Better might be the wrong word, depends on the waves or style of surf you're trying to achieve. Ant himself said he would have to hang up the board he shaped himself, that was his go to board, and now he realises that with his new found skills it's holding him back.
@@mrwardy7 I have 6 boards haha 3 midlengths, 2 funboards, and a shortboard I had board aquisition syndrome and thought if i get a short seaside or some type of fish that my surfing would improve thats why this video spoke to me now I know what board to use in what condition and where to position myself with my shortboard etc I catch waves easy enough I realize I have to now improve my technique before I buy another board...
Yea I hear you mate. There is so many variables though isn't there? .... A new board can make a big difference as you are improving from a beginner level.... I learned on a 45litre fun board..... Eventually bought a 36litre superbrand fling.... Love it and I caught so many more waves, but now feel like that's got too much volume for me, I have since bought a 33litre LSD noa, and it has improved my surfing a lot because of the lower litres making it more maneuverable. I have just picked up a superbrand black viper 31L, yet to ride it, but looking forward to seeing how that feels. Variety is the spice of life 😁🤙
14:23 there's some dude getting fully run over
Epic review, thanks!
Clayton, I think he is ready for a SpineTek singlerfin like the one you made, such a magic surfboard!
That would be cool!
Man thanks so much for that! Made me more confident in getting a twin fin.
After watching this video Ive realized one of my biggest mistakes as a "DIY, self taught/coached, go at it alone surfer" is when it comes to building my quiver I've made some really bad board decisions that seriously hampered my surfing. If I had to do it over again I'd develop a relationship with a shaper (though this looks like coach+shaper in one? not familiar with the channel) and put my trust in their knowledge and assessment- not the marketing blurb, what my friends/internet says, etc. There is something to be said about the 'cohesiveness' of this quiver...
Thanks for your comment and honesty. A relationship with a shaper is important but further than that is the knowledge you possess. Being able to assess conditions and pick the most appropriate piece of equipment is the ultimate goal.
Couple of questions…
1. Why does Ant not have or use a traditional thruster with a squash tail? Why the two variations of the same model as a quad with a swallow and round tail?
2. Seems like you’re pushing him away from the groveler. Is this because it’s really not totally necessary once you can shortboard in the mush? Does a groveler kinda hold you back?
3. I’m about the same size as Ant and was shocked to hear his normal volume is 32. Is this a pretty normal range you’d suggest for 185 cm and 86k, or does he ride lower than normal?
Yewww, love the video
Ive been surfing for nearly 30yrs and started on an 8'0" mal with thruster fins and after a couple of years and being able to surf the mal pretty well(starting to do floaters / roundhouses ) i felt i needed a smaller more manouverable board to progress my surfing, i found that the right board seemed to appear and i could get it,(i gota 7'2" like a big shortboard) after that boards always seemed to turn up at the right time for me i never had to go looking..wierd! I now have 6 boards from 6'2" fish up to 7'2" gun but still love to ride the 8'0"mal as it was the board that taught me to surf with style and flow and to do smooth turns, i think the worst thing to do is try and learn to surf on a board under 7' 🤙
I've been surfing 6 months on a 8ft mini Mal...picking it up really quickly and feel like I could use a shorter board.. should I wait?
@@Mannsy83 if you feel its time to progress then keep an eye out for something a bit shorter but dont go too narrow you still want to catch waves easily just dont get a board that will set your surfing back its all about progression....and enjoyment! 👍
Great video
Really interesting
Love your enthusiasm
Can’t wait to get out tomorrow for a surf
Let us know how you went!
@@ombesurf
Hi guys
Surfed the wave pool
Had a awesome surf
Definitely improving
Did my best top turn so far
Still got a Long way to go
Been practicing heaps on the skateboard for months now and making great progress
Look forward to ombe Wednesday nights
Plenty of gold nuggets which have fast tracked my surfing
I have a mount that I attach to pool wall so I can take video on my phone , it works a treat
Can’t wait for the weekend
back at the wave pool 😀
Thanks again
Amazing video and information guys! Would love to work with clayton on a custom board some day soon!
You let us know when, so we can organise it.
Definitely an eye opener Ant & Clay
Thanks Harrison!
Amaaazzzinggg as alwaaayyys!!!
great video!! really informative
Glad you liked it!
I'm guessing Clayton made you boards to assist your development.. one to generate speed down the line, one to draw out your turns and small wave board. It seems as Ant has improved the width in the tail needs to be reduced to improve maneuverability and rail turns
14:25 straight to hospital 🎉
Thanks for this video!
What's Ant's height and weight? What's the dims on that mid? Surfs really smooth. Thanks.
185 cm. - 86Kg.
Great channel and Information!
Loved this video and great to see the progression!!! When you get your own twin pin what dimensions would you like to try?
Thank you! Not sure about your question.
Loads of insights. Ta!
Our pleasure!
kool..I always take a shorter board along but with the small mushy waves we get combined with my fitness and skill level I always end up taking out the 7'6....often wondered how You broke your neck but didnt want to ask..
It was a really late take off and it was dead low tide. Worst combo.
@@ombesurf nasty..a few of our beaches get nasty on high tide..snapped my board once ...it can dump heavy sometimes.
Love board talk yewww!!
Stoked!
Ant, you have a really nice style and trim nicely with flow, liking that mid length, how long is it?
Thank you Shaun! I appreciate it. The board is 7.0' or 7.2' something like that :p
Nice one!!! Can you tell more about dimensions of mid length board??? Form 9ish minut.
Hi team great video and very informative. Where does a squash or rounded square tail fit into mix along with swallow and round?
great video guys
Thanks Anthea!
What model is the mid-length board and what brand?
Nice video! How long is the mid? Cheers!
Hey lads. Scotty from Logan here. I surf the goldie most of the time. I broke c1/c2 hangman years ago and am struggling with positioning etc. Would love some tips.
Awesome clip guys! Ant you look like a different surfer now compared to the wave pool clip! What model slyde hand plane is the small concave one? The Bula?
Thanks Alicia! - Yep it is the Slyde bula.
Curious if the quiver still looks similar after a couple of years have passed and your surfing has progressed?
Cheers
They evolve with our skill and understanding
what s the model name of that twin fin at the end ?
Please explain how you measure the 'volume' of a board! I come from an old place where you just used a tape measure: length, width, thickness. What's the secret to get to those bloody litres? Please explain in your reply!
Did you ever get a new groveler? I am having the same problem and am thinking the same thing.
Any recomendations?
Dears
What model is the twin pin !?
what dims you going for on the twin pin ?
Thanks for sharing
Great video. If you could keep 3 of those boards, what would be your quiver?
185 cm. - 86Kg.
That is interesting. I am 75kg and 30L feels right for me. I never tried something like 26L. But I think you answered a different comment. 😁
@@bselva lol!
What is the midlength twin fin board called please let me know
At 14:24 it's clearly homicide woww 🤣
hey guys, what size is the mid length he has?
7’0. Ant is 6’2 tall
Hi. Can somebody tell me size and wight of Ant?
Refreshingly untypical talk on boards, but only half as valuable since not being able to put the board sizes into relation.
185 cm. - 86Kg.
so kool
Cheers!
nice haircut @ 14:23
Even the step up is EPS?
All of them.
So funny you were talking about how you went about getting your first board and it was exactly how I did. I even watched the same guys reviews
Then you said "and I got a lost puddle jumper hp"
I almost lost it. I did the exact same thing. I knew I wasn't good enough to ride it, But I learned. It's a killer board, but not easy to learn on.
I don't think that was the point they were making. The point they were making was that the puddle jumper HP is a fat wide board and encourages the surfer to surf out on the shoulder instead of in the pocket. That being said I have a puddle jumper HP haha, but I'm hesitant to ride another board since a lot of the time I'm at very crowded breaks with tons of longboarders and it's already difficult enough to compete with them even on the PJHP
How tall is ant? And what's his weight
Are all your boards around 35 litres
Surf boards Quiver....
Best Waves...
Foward V... full concave...
Concave to dooble concave in betwem da fins seth...
Try doble concaves in front of fins to a deeeple single concave in between da fins seth....
Single...twins....twinzers...
Only da surfer & da local REAL shapers will develop good quiver
14:24 - nobody want to talk about that guy taking a board/fins to the face?
14:21 lol rekt
I was hoping someone else caught this!
Kiss already! Your romance is so cute
How do you know when a 7/8ft foamie hire board is holding you back? And what should you think about changing to? I am very much a beginner, but because I am trying to catch green waves, perhaps I need a different board? However on the beach I surf at in Scotland, 80% of the time it is small waves... :(
The boards are fine. What I noticed is that you just don't know how to really speed and you are moving to short boards way to soon.
Get your technic right is the first priority for you.
Man that guy gets run over at 14:20.
Is it bad for an intermediate to have quite a wide shortboard
Hey Samuel, I'd say theres not such a thing as something good or bad when it comes to what you feel in the water. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration. Are you actually an intermediate surfer? What kind of waves are you surfing? What would you like to achieve? There's more than picking 'the right' board. I'd suggest to go here-> ombe.co/courses/surfing-analysis/ and assess your surfing. This could be very beneficial for you.
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32L for a 90kg bloke! Dang 😅
I can’t believe this dude thinks he’s intermediate