I have a story it go's like this I was a restaurant worker getting paid like 10 to 11$ a hour at the time I go to my lgs when I can I don't get that many Fridays off there only one table open at the time I sit down and say hay all I got is low end budget decks everyone's okay with that, this is a 3 pod now I'm playing the game this one guy wins on turn 6, I polity asked hay you got any decks that are slower, he said let me check, grabs a new deck and wins on turn 6 again, then that same guy is trying to buy a lotus petal saying he needs to make all of his decks more consistent, and I'm overhearing this and thinking to myself man you must not have alot friends man.
They wont ban thoracle because they don't ban win conditions, the problem with fast mana is people weren't using rule 0 to prevent it and it was becoming an accepted cultural facet of the game. They have said multiple times they do not ban around CEDH and she is only really seen there and not really a problem because those players hold up interaction and know more about the game intuitively.
Im a strickly casual player at my local game store. I understand dockside and nadu. But ive never had a problem with fast mana. They shouldnt have banned crypt or lotus
They need to share methodology for bans. Then we can buy things at our own risk knowing that methodology. There are lot's of powerful cards out there that end the game quickly. Longer games does not = more casual/fun games.
As a new player it felt bad being at such an outrageous disadvantage simply because I couldn’t afford to invest $300 in Dockside, Crypt, and Jeweled Lotus. Just to have anything close to a fair chance.
@@valgeir80 It depends where you play or who you are playing with. There are many people out there who don’t like proxies. Understandably so since decks will inherently end up looking like direct copies of one-another with everyone running the same exact cookie-cutter staple auto includes in every single deck.
@@luisgutierrez8047 The fact is that there are a lot of powerful cards that certain people don't like and we have no idea what they will ban next. We don't know their criteria for banning, just vague statements about making the game slower.
I don't think you have a clue WTF you're talking about. Half the community loves these bans half hate them. There is no apathetic group
I have a story it go's like this I was a restaurant worker getting paid like 10 to 11$ a hour at the time I go to my lgs when I can I don't get that many Fridays off there only one table open at the time I sit down and say hay all I got is low end budget decks everyone's okay with that, this is a 3 pod now I'm playing the game this one guy wins on turn 6, I polity asked hay you got any decks that are slower, he said let me check, grabs a new deck and wins on turn 6 again, then that same guy is trying to buy a lotus petal saying he needs to make all of his decks more consistent, and I'm overhearing this and thinking to myself man you must not have alot friends man.
They wont ban thoracle because they don't ban win conditions, the problem with fast mana is people weren't using rule 0 to prevent it and it was becoming an accepted cultural facet of the game. They have said multiple times they do not ban around CEDH and she is only really seen there and not really a problem because those players hold up interaction and know more about the game intuitively.
Cogent analysis
I hope they ban Thassa's Oracle....
Im a strickly casual player at my local game store. I understand dockside and nadu. But ive never had a problem with fast mana. They shouldnt have banned crypt or lotus
They need to share methodology for bans. Then we can buy things at our own risk knowing that methodology. There are lot's of powerful cards out there that end the game quickly. Longer games does not = more casual/fun games.
I agree even if I just bought JL and Dockside you made a great argument !
glad nadu is gone but i am too poor to care about the mana rocks and dockside 🤣
People are in part upset because they used three of these cards as the chase rares to sell product very recently.
True
As a new player it felt bad being at such an outrageous disadvantage simply because I couldn’t afford to invest $300 in Dockside, Crypt, and Jeweled Lotus. Just to have anything close to a fair chance.
Ever heard of a proxy?
@@valgeir80 It depends where you play or who you are playing with. There are many people out there who don’t like proxies. Understandably so since decks will inherently end up looking like direct copies of one-another with everyone running the same exact cookie-cutter staple auto includes in every single deck.
Other expensive and powerful things will replace these. At what point do we stop banning the things that fill the vacuum?
@@Caliban_80 Nothing fills the vacuum. Mana vault is nowhere as broken as mana crypt.
@@luisgutierrez8047 The fact is that there are a lot of powerful cards that certain people don't like and we have no idea what they will ban next. We don't know their criteria for banning, just vague statements about making the game slower.
Unban jeweled lotus