Using this comment for some COVID-19 announcements. 1. We are all safe and healthy at home. The transition to home office meant that we needed release a shorter, bit different episode on a regular upload day. There will be a regular 20 minute episode again in mid April. Stay tuned. 2. Definitely subscribe to Military Aviation History if you want to learn even more about the Fokker D.VII and other iconic aircraft: ruclips.net/video/5HZIV2tyZS8/видео.html 3. Thank you to Flugwerft Schleißheim for letting us film with their original Fokker D.VII: www.deutsches-museum.de/en/flugwerft/information/ - highly recommend visiting this museum (when it's open again)
When i saw the title: TGW made a video about D.VII just one day after MAH, what a coincidence. Five seconds later: So its not just a coincidence. :-) Nice to see you cooperating.
The name Fokker actually has a common word origin with the English word to f*ck. A Fokker in Dutch is someone who breeds animals (like horses). There is this story about a Dutch former minister of foreign affairs Joseph Luns who told Kennedy, when asked about his hobbies, 'I fok horses'. Kennedy replied 'Pardon?' and Luns replied: 'Yes, paarden!'' (paarden means horses in Dutch).
It was grand that you included photographs of Hess and Goering. I find that it's nice to view an image of the younger, slender Goering. And Hess used his piloting skills during the Second World War as well.
I heard Manfred von Richthofen himself had some input in the D-VII’s design and that it reached frontline service just before his final mission. One of history’s great “ What if” moments if he had flown the D-VII that day instead.
Yeah he made some smaller recommendations. He was just weeks from getting a consignment of D.7's to partially equip his unit. Whether or not it would have saved him that day though.. He would have gone faster for sure, might have caught up to and shot May down, and been harder to hit from the ground as a result. Either way the head wound caused him to make irrational decisions, probably doomed in the long run anyway.
It gave the SE5 a run for its money, though I reckon with the Camels & Spad's, it was enough to turn the 100 days offensive around. Great video guys. 😊
I went to a air show a couple years ago. I can imagine. How many kids and adults to see her fly again. And the pilots who fly the jets today. To fly her. In tribute to the Red Baron.
If you are ever in SanDiego, go to Balboa Park Air Museum. They have alot of WWI aircraft, German equipment and uniform. As well as American and British. Nice Museum.
I have a radio control model of this aircraft. It has a 1.64 meter wingspan and a flying weight of ~ 4kg. It is a joy to fly and looks amazing in the air !
You did forget one, guys. Bulgaria received a batch of D.VIIs just before the armistice with the Entente, these were confiscated and destroyed - except one. It was disarmed and flew for well over a decade in civilian markings, training military pilots in secret, and being the only "military" aircraft Bulgaria possessed for a while after the treaty of Neuilly. It even went on intercepts a couple of times as Bulgaria's airspace was intruded...
I saw th eone from the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome fly about 35 years ago. It took off in about 200 feet, the pilot took it up and it hung on the propellor, motionless in the sky. That was a sight to see!
Hey! Just saw Biz's video on this yesterday! But Biz is WRONG. That's a beautiful bird! And thanx for the quality content Jesse and crew, since we're having our own pandemic just a little off schedule for the centenary of the Spanish Flu.
The Dutch word Fokker (for it is Dutch, not German) has the same etymological origin as the English word F**ker. It is Dutch for breeder. (In the sense of animal breeder) In English it took a slightly different turn.
In an interview: The guest explains that they were under attack from several fokkers. The fokkers were coming in very fast. The host stops him and explains that the fokker is a German airplane. The guest says: Yeah, but these fokkers were Messerschmidts.
One of the advantages of the DVII in comparison with other aircrafts of its era was its low drag coeficient. Fokker designed its structure, mainly wings, resistant to flex and torsion without the need of rigging. Rigging represents a huge amount of drag on biplane aircraft. Compare it to any Albatros or Sopwith. The engineers let them only in undercarriage and tailplane, probably due to the amount of structure reinforcements, time and investiments needed against small aerodynamic gains
1:30 Looking at the water jackets & lightweight crankcase on that engine, it's easy to see how a couple of lucky .303 rounds could puncture & disrupt it's whirling niceties, thereby sending the operator a few steamy & emotional moments. Ouch.
The Dutch word Fokker (for it is Dutch, not German) has the same etymological origin as the English word F**ker. It is Dutch for breeder. (In the sense of animal breeder) In English it took a slightly different turn.
I liked this episode. I've heard a lot of great things about this plane. But I would love to hear about the other planes that flew in this war. Because they're were many.
I was interested to hear your comments regarding the return of Fokker D V111 air craft to Holland at the end of the Grt War. My father was born in 1910 and as a boy lived in the south of Holland in Maastricht. He told me that one of his vivid memories of the end of the war was seeing the German air craft flying to Holland from Germany. He thought that the air craft were leased to Germany and were returned. No proof of this was given so it could be hear say.
Hey Jesse and Christophe, and friends, check out my book on this topic, THE FIRST AIR CAMPAIGN, August 1914 - November 1918 (by Eric Lawson). It should be in the gift shop of that museum. It became a US Air Force Academy text, was translated in several languages, and was a primary source for Smithsonian websites, historical and military publications. Has great detail, important perspectives; I hope you like it. Published now by Hachette Book Group, seen on Amazon, etc. This Fokker D.VII episode is great, i love your channel!!!! Cheers, Eric
Lets not forget that the succeeding aircraft, the Fokker DVIII or D8 was actually better in a fight, easier to produce and just maneuverable if not more, and faster not by a bunch, but still faster. It was and is just the best WW1 fighter ever made!
The D.VIII "razorblade" used the Oberurserl UR.II which is the same as that used in the Fokker Dr.1 The Dr.1 was pulled outta frontline service exactly because of durability issues with it's engine. Rotary engines were dependent on castor oil which Germany couldn't produce or get anymore, they had to use substitute's which greatly reduced engine durability & service life. Which is all to say factory new aircraft head to head on the frontline, D.VII vs D:VIII, the D.VIII wasn't faster for very long before the far more serviceable and durable Merc/BMW Engines in the D.VII pulled ahead.
@@ToreDL87 point taken! which then makes me wonder why didnt they just stuff that BMW inline motor into the DVIII? Wonder how that combination would have worked!
You gotta just imagine how intimidated the allied powers had to be that at Germany's surrender they made two specific demands. The imperial navy...and every last one of these planes...
I liked this video, but it could have been better. I wish they'd said, "Here are three unique design creations which were implemented in this aircraft which made it the king of the sky in the latter part of the war." Next, they could have done a show & tell. They wet my appetite, but didn't satisfy it. If these guys are going to talk foreshadowing like that, they need to back it up in the same episode and not refer to another, not yet produced, episode.
OrkStuff The war in the air wasn‘t decisive during the Great War. It did contribute increasingly to the overall war effort, but the capabilities of WW I aircraft and their ordnance were very limited compared to what you see in WW II and afterwards.
@@ColHoganGer90 Aerial observation over the battlefield was important, initially carried out by observation balloons and 'scout' aircraft this lead to the development of 'fighter' aircraft intended to deny the enemy the ability to observe build-ups prior to ground attacks. If you want to talk bombers then the Gotha arguably was a 'game changer' (and I've read that the Germans WERE specifically forbidden from building any more of them in the Treaty of Versailles).
OrkStuff As I said, the war in the air did increasingly contribute to the war effort. Nonetheless, the technical and doctrinal development to conduct only even tactically decisive air operations wasn‘t yet present. The Gotha-Bomber was an advanced piece of equipment for its time but still very limited in regards to actually performing CAS or interdiction. Finally, all military aircraft production was banned in Germany after the Versailles Treaty - not just production of Gothas or Fokker VIIs.
That thumbnail: "This baby can fit so many ace pilots in it."
nerd-caveman that was exactly my same thought too
Now that I know the proper pronunciation, I understand the comment. :-)
-cargo space?
-car no do that, car go road. Also this is a plane.
Using this comment for some COVID-19 announcements.
1. We are all safe and healthy at home. The transition to home office meant that we needed release a shorter, bit different episode on a regular upload day. There will be a regular 20 minute episode again in mid April. Stay tuned.
2. Definitely subscribe to Military Aviation History if you want to learn even more about the Fokker D.VII and other iconic aircraft: ruclips.net/video/5HZIV2tyZS8/видео.html
3. Thank you to Flugwerft Schleißheim for letting us film with their original Fokker D.VII: www.deutsches-museum.de/en/flugwerft/information/ - highly recommend visiting this museum (when it's open again)
You guys should make whole video's on the various planes flown by all sides in this war. It might be very popular.
This Chris guy looks a lot like Bismarck from same channel. Uncanny.
I am a mature adult with a refined sense of humor *Hears Fokker in a German accent* pfffffft... X'D
Ironically when fokker is dutch
@@startingbark0356 No fokking way!?
I love German camouflage. Anything German is awesome. Dr1 is my ww1 favorite but this and the albatross are awesome.
"On these BMW fuckers"
Yep, that's probably what they said back then as well
One of the most pleasing crossovers I’ve seen between two history creators on RUclips
In the Armistice of 11 November 1918, the D.VII was specifically required to be handed over to the Allies.
The fokker d7 was my favorite plane of the German side. Badass fighter.
Bill Huber agreed
Yessir
I just love the camouflage.
Printed at the factory I believe.
Oddly satisfying...
Me to
@@davidbrennan660first ever
One could say this planes true potential is up in the air.
It was at one time _on the rise._
😊😊😊
Yeah you could almost *point* that *out*
It had it's *ups* and *downs*
When i saw the title: TGW made a video about D.VII just one day after MAH, what a coincidence. Five seconds later: So its not just a coincidence. :-) Nice to see you cooperating.
I don't know why but every time I see the name of the aircraft I go thinking: "oh for fok's sake"
“Oh for fok sake, the Germans got a new plane. Let’s name it the oh for fok sake for all the problems it’s gonna causes us”
Me: "Be mature, be mature"
German: "Fokker"
Me: *Stiffles laughter*
air fokkers, that's what we all are after seeing pictures of your mom
One of the German Aces painted his Fokker D. VIII blue and white, probably in the Red Barons "Flying Circus" but man was that plane beautiful.
Jagdgeschwader XV (Jasta 15) painted theirs with a red nose, royal blue fuselage, and white rudder.
The 12 or 13 jasta had white noses and blue fuselages.
@@Rammstein0963. Jagdgeschwader is four jastas being combined.
The standard finish wasn’t painted at all. The fabric was printed with the hexagonal camouflage pattern…
I don't know how Jessie can keep a straight face at the phrase 'BMW fokkers'.
years of training
Excellent collaboration! I always learn something new, thank you Christoph Bergs and Jesse Alexander for this insight.
Really cool video about such a significant plane. Stay safe during this outbreak!
Those dirty Fokkers
I see what you did there. 😂
@@sirvolkerstein sire, you may not jest bout a satire which makes the satire obvious. It doest apear thou ist a flith apon das internet.
The name Fokker actually has a common word origin with the English word to f*ck. A Fokker in Dutch is someone who breeds animals (like horses). There is this story about a Dutch former minister of foreign affairs Joseph Luns who told Kennedy, when asked about his hobbies, 'I fok horses'. Kennedy replied 'Pardon?' and Luns replied: 'Yes, paarden!'' (paarden means horses in Dutch).
Reporter: you designed the aircraft right? Yes? How did you choose the name?
Chief engineer: it was a play on words with a similar word in English.
Ardunafeth Thank you for the Story , very interesting .
My favorite AC from my days visiting Ol'Rhinebeck in NY. Turned on a dime, and flew so smoothly, like a Hummingbird. Beautiful plane
The Goettigen GOE 418 was a fun wing to fly
It was grand that you included photographs of Hess and Goering. I find that it's nice to view an image of the younger, slender Goering. And Hess used his piloting skills during the Second World War as well.
I heard Manfred von Richthofen himself had some input in the D-VII’s design and that it reached frontline service just before his final mission. One of history’s great “ What if” moments if he had flown the D-VII that day instead.
Yeah he made some smaller recommendations. He was just weeks from getting a consignment of D.7's to partially equip his unit.
Whether or not it would have saved him that day though.. He would have gone faster for sure, might have caught up to and shot May down, and been harder to hit from the ground as a result.
Either way the head wound caused him to make irrational decisions, probably doomed in the long run anyway.
It gave the SE5 a run for its money, though I reckon with the Camels & Spad's, it was enough to turn the 100 days offensive around. Great video guys. 😊
That little Fokker is beautiful
Many of the Fokker DVII wound up in the services of the the Schweitz Bundesluft the Swiss Air Corp.
i believe they even manufactured their own variant.
They ended up everywhere, absolutely everywhere.
I went to a air show a couple years ago. I can imagine. How many kids and adults to see her fly again. And the pilots who fly the jets today. To fly her. In tribute to the Red Baron.
If you are ever in SanDiego, go to Balboa Park Air Museum. They have alot of WWI aircraft, German equipment and uniform. As well as American and British. Nice Museum.
Sweet thanks for the heads up
Except for the SPAD and the Nieuport 29 the WW l a/c in the SDASM are reproductions. They are still well worth seeing.
I have a radio control model of this aircraft. It has a 1.64 meter wingspan and a flying weight of ~ 4kg. It is a joy to fly and looks amazing in the air !
This is very interesting and entertaining. Stay with this kind of content.
You did forget one, guys. Bulgaria received a batch of D.VIIs just before the armistice with the Entente, these were confiscated and destroyed - except one. It was disarmed and flew for well over a decade in civilian markings, training military pilots in secret, and being the only "military" aircraft Bulgaria possessed for a while after the treaty of Neuilly. It even went on intercepts a couple of times as Bulgaria's airspace was intruded...
My favorite while playing Dawn Patrol.
I saw th eone from the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome fly about 35 years ago. It took off in about 200 feet, the pilot took it up and it hung on the propellor, motionless in the sky. That was a sight to see!
Hey! Just saw Biz's video on this yesterday! But Biz is WRONG. That's a beautiful bird!
And thanx for the quality content Jesse and crew, since we're having our own pandemic just a little off schedule for the centenary of the Spanish Flu.
"It's not as pretty"
*proceeds to show the most handsome gigachad plane in the war*
Just saying Fokker evokes smirks from English language speakers.
"Oh no it's the dreaded flying *FOKKERS* "
They'll "fok" you up
The gift that just keeps giving...... .
The Dutch word Fokker (for it is Dutch, not German) has the same etymological origin as the English word F**ker.
It is Dutch for breeder. (In the sense of animal breeder) In English it took a slightly different turn.
Get a life and become an adult
In an interview: The guest explains that they were under attack from several fokkers. The fokkers were coming in very fast. The host stops him and explains that the fokker is a German airplane. The guest says: Yeah, but these fokkers were Messerschmidts.
Stan Boardman
The story you refer to is of Douglas Bader relating a story to school students. The "host" that interrupts Bader is their teacher.
The thumbnail makes me think "this bad boy can fit so much 303. in it"
One of the advantages of the DVII in comparison with other aircrafts of its era was its low drag coeficient. Fokker designed its structure, mainly wings, resistant to flex and torsion without the need of rigging. Rigging represents a huge amount of drag on biplane aircraft. Compare it to any Albatros or Sopwith. The engineers let them only in undercarriage and tailplane, probably due to the amount of structure reinforcements, time and investiments needed against small aerodynamic gains
4:13 This is a picture of Canadian ace William Barker and DVII in Toronto prior to the 1919 Toronto to Long Island NY air race.
1:30 Looking at the water jackets & lightweight crankcase on that engine, it's easy to see how a couple of lucky .303 rounds could puncture & disrupt it's whirling niceties, thereby sending the operator a few steamy & emotional moments. Ouch.
Thumbnail be like:
*slaps plain* This bad boy can fit so many Gerries in it
Thanks for straight up information
The Dutch word Fokker (for it is Dutch, not German) has the same etymological origin as the English word F**ker.
It is Dutch for breeder. (In the sense of animal breeder) In English it took a slightly different turn.
@magicblanket Just the founder's last name. Presumably his forefather breed horses or something. ;)
I liked this episode. I've heard a lot of great things about this plane. But I would love to hear about the other planes that flew in this war. Because they're were many.
I was interested to hear your comments regarding the return of Fokker D V111 air craft to Holland at the end of the Grt War. My father was born in 1910 and as a boy lived in the south of Holland in Maastricht. He told me that one of his vivid memories of the end of the war was seeing the German air craft flying to Holland from Germany. He thought that the air craft were leased to Germany and were returned. No proof of this was given so it could be hear say.
I signed up for Curiosity Stream with you coupon.
You should go to the curragh military museum in Ireland
The REAL Fokker scourge!
Nah Fokker E.I still the legend
Great video
Reinhold Platz design the Fokker D7 in 1918 not Anthony Fokker..It was a development of Platz's experimental V.11, designed and built in 1917...
I love early aircraft!! This is awesome!!
I have flown these airplanes in a flight simulator and it had great performance compared to the British and French planes.
Hey Jesse and Christophe, and friends, check out my book on this topic,
THE FIRST AIR CAMPAIGN, August 1914 - November 1918 (by Eric Lawson). It should be in the gift shop of that museum. It became a US Air Force Academy text, was translated in several languages, and was a primary source for Smithsonian websites, historical and military publications. Has great detail, important perspectives; I hope you like it. Published now by Hachette Book Group, seen on Amazon, etc.
This Fokker D.VII episode is great, i love your channel!!!!
Cheers, Eric
Thanks!
Wait, that’s Chris? For a long time I thought he’s Bismarck! All the lies I’ve believed!
The lack of sideburns should have made you suspicious.
4:55 where in Poland was the Albatros Werke factory located ? Schneidemühl (?) is today part of Poland but not in interwar Poland.
yup, Piła (Schneidemühl) was just 6 km from the border, but on the German side
Lozenge camo seems a bit off. But what the heck right?
This very aircraft is post war built by the Dutch Navy at DeKoy.
Those babies dont "fok" around 👌
Love this aircraft my favourite ww1 the beautiful dv7.
I expected this episode to be lame since I'm not into the details of weapons and planes in war but this was surprisingly interesting
What's up Fokker?
Great info
1:10 It's so weird to think that this guy from basically ancient times died not even six years before my birth.
Meet the Fokkers!
The secret sauce is that first vowel!
Aaaaaaiiiiiiirrrrrrrr plaaaaaaaaaneeessssss I love airplanes, in fact I learned to lucid dream just so I could fly a dr1.
Lets not forget that the succeeding aircraft, the Fokker DVIII or D8 was actually better in a fight, easier to produce and just maneuverable if not more, and faster not by a bunch, but still faster. It was and is just the best WW1 fighter ever made!
The D.VIII "razorblade" used the Oberurserl UR.II which is the same as that used in the Fokker Dr.1
The Dr.1 was pulled outta frontline service exactly because of durability issues with it's engine.
Rotary engines were dependent on castor oil which Germany couldn't produce or get anymore, they had to use substitute's which greatly reduced engine durability & service life.
Which is all to say factory new aircraft head to head on the frontline, D.VII vs D:VIII, the D.VIII wasn't faster for very long before the far more serviceable and durable Merc/BMW Engines in the D.VII pulled ahead.
@@ToreDL87 point taken! which then makes me wonder why didnt they just stuff that BMW inline motor into the DVIII? Wonder how that combination would have worked!
The fatter airfoil was the essential development, not the engine.
Was I the only one laughing every time they said Fokker?
@Micahistory 2 - I was doing the same thing!
@@shawngilliland243 lol
Interesting video
Likely because they have higher I telle to than that of the typical 6 year old child.
Not the prettiest of First World War aircraft, but one of the very best.
Which model of biplane is shown in the beginning of the music video of Panama by Van Halen ?
What is your intro song
You gotta just imagine how intimidated the allied powers had to be that at Germany's surrender they made two specific demands. The imperial navy...and every last one of these planes...
Wait is that Bismarck?
That paint job ... is it from IKEA?
Please visit Micahistory 2, it would mean a lot!
COOL!
Never knew Hermann Goring was a ww1 ace
TawnyRain2332 it’s one of the reasons he became head of the Luftwaffe
@@TheOnyxisthere nice
25 victories
Have you not studied history at all? This saddens me
I openly laughed whenever that German dude said Fokker
I thought the Eindekker scourge was 1915?
What does Fokker mean? Yes it does.
It's Dutch for animal breeder.
I don't think he did too much of that though.
Imagine having Fokker as your last name
News to me that some Fokkers had BMW engines. I had thought that they all had Mercedes engines same as Messerschmitts in WW 11.
The Bf109’s used originally the Rolce Royce kestrel and junkers jumo engines
I liked this video, but it could have been better. I wish they'd said, "Here are three unique design creations which were implemented in this aircraft which made it the king of the sky in the latter part of the war." Next, they could have done a show & tell. They wet my appetite, but didn't satisfy it. If these guys are going to talk foreshadowing like that, they need to back it up in the same episode and not refer to another, not yet produced, episode.
the episode is produced already and linked
Sopwith Snipe.
Can it swim though?
His name is Chris?!?!??
How are they not laughing
Likely because their intellect is greater than that of a 6 year old child.
What if the germany whit the shliffen plan went tru Italy in stand of belgium cous the pact whit them
I just wanted to watch an informative video about a cool ww1 plane instead they got me laughing out loud everytime he says Fokker
Bismark is such a stud. A hot piece of hamburg. Mmm, mmm.
I got a feeling that this video will get demonetized by RUclips for wrong reasons...
🛩️
She looks gorgeous
Has anyone posted the old Fokker joke?
Yeah multiple times.
Hello community , can someone recommend an attractive, enjoyable and informative book about WW1 in the air? Thank you very much!
there is a lot of profanity in this episode.
Put on your big boy pants lol😊
Oh, I get it.😐
Just out of curiosity, how come the Germans lost if this aircraft 'Broke The Stalemate In the Air'?
well, you also need to win the war on the ground.
@@TheGreatWar Which you can't normally do in the modern context unless you have control of the air.
OrkStuff The war in the air wasn‘t decisive during the Great War. It did contribute increasingly to the overall war effort, but the capabilities of WW I aircraft and their ordnance were very limited compared to what you see in WW II and afterwards.
@@ColHoganGer90 Aerial observation over the battlefield was important, initially carried out by observation balloons and 'scout' aircraft this lead to the development of 'fighter' aircraft intended to deny the enemy the ability to observe build-ups prior to ground attacks. If you want to talk bombers then the Gotha arguably was a 'game changer' (and I've read that the Germans WERE specifically forbidden from building any more of them in the Treaty of Versailles).
OrkStuff As I said, the war in the air did increasingly contribute to the war effort. Nonetheless, the technical and doctrinal development to conduct only even tactically decisive air operations wasn‘t yet present. The Gotha-Bomber was an advanced piece of equipment for its time but still very limited in regards to actually performing CAS or interdiction.
Finally, all military aircraft production was banned in Germany after the Versailles Treaty - not just production of Gothas or Fokker VIIs.