This is exactly what I was looking for. Simple, Concise, and more than enough to get started with the plugin. And your audio and video are both top notch.
I was trying to purchase Waves Tune so I watched a bunch of RUclips videos of people reviewing it and the didn’t really say much that I could sink my teeth into - even some of the big guys we all really love and respect. I happened upon your videos and it was the real-life nuts-and-bolts description and tutorial I was looking for. I am now subscribed to your channel. Thank you Ben!
Thanks for the positive feedback, Michael! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and I will continue to post content in the same real-life context. If there is something you would like to see covered in more detail please add a question or comment. Most of my tutorial videos are in direct response to question I receive from producer friends working in their home studio.
Thanks for checking out this video. Melodyne is also a great tool. I find that I mostly use Melodyne when I need to tune instruments like a bass guitar or sometimes when creating vocal harmonies. I definitely need to spend more time with Melodyne in order to make the most of what it can do! I have also been testing SynchroArts RePitch recently but I am not getting reliable compatibility in Samplitude yet.
Great job, great song. You can also use your up and down arrows (on your keyboard / laptop) once you select a note, or notes... that makes it easier !! Also I find that pencil tool is really great for making very subtle corrections. It took me a while to get used to it, but now I find it quite valuable. “The best vocal correction you’ve never heard“. 🤘🤩🤘
Hey, thanks for watching! I mostly use Waves Tune on Windows in Samplitude, so one reason to use it in Logic is because the same results can be achieved across platforms and in whatever DAW you are using. I have not used Flex Pitch yet, but I know that every different pitch automation software has it’s strengths, weaknesses, and quirks. I have used Waves Tune extensively for many years with reliable results for transparent vocal correction - but I do also use Auto-Tune, Melodyne, and zplane Elastique for specific tasks. I could do a video comparing Tune with Flex Pitch.
That's an excellent question! In my experience, the "big peaks" are usually related to incorrect detection of harmonic overtone as the base note and that's why I put attention on deleting them. The "tail drops" are almost always part of the natural pitch drop-off that the human voice does at the tail end of a note and I feel it is important to preserve those. I usually do some specific editing to make the tail drops are preserved in their natural state by reducing the RATIO to 0% or drawing the curve manually for that tail section. It is a common mistake for inexperienced editors to try to flatten the whole note from front to back but that leads to very unnatural sounding results - there will almost always be a sharp pitch at the transient before the base note and then a pitch drop at the end of a note which you can see clearly if you look at the pitch waveforms in this video. I can do a video that talks more specifically about the tail drops which I think it would be helpful so I really appreciate you pointing this out - thanks!.
Waves ReWire is installed along with Waves Tune - it's a plugin with no audio output. It can show up in the plugin or ReWire menu. Some DAW's will autostart the connection and some like ProTools you need to manually add. Look for the specific documentation for your DAW.
How do you just spot check specific notes? I want to keep most of the vocals untouched, but just zero in on a few notes. Is there a way to do this within the plugin? Outside, I guess I could automating the plugin out for the spots other than the ones I want to tweak, but, ehhhh....
Hey Ava. This would depend on your specific workflow and approach. If I were to only spot check a few notes and wanted to leave 90% of the vocal track untouched, then I would slice those sections/notes and move them to a separate track for processing. You could also user the % control to take the entire analyzed vocal down to 0% correction, and then just spot check certain notes by selecting those segments and turning them up to 100% correction.
@@KingYahuchanon Great question. I may not know the key of the song, so the fastest way to get to work is to dive right in without selecting a root and scale and that was probably the case here. Working in Chromatic mode can preserve the singers melodic intention more closely and there may be passing tones that you would want to get an ear on before snapping to key. After analysis, I may set the key and then use the tolerance parameter selectively to ease the take into tune - which can be a fast path to a natural sounding take. Check out the Root and Key video link for more on that working method and thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/yCv8SBAwxlQ/видео.htmlsi=WuwXa3koUR11SDAp
I'm interested in videos about this product, I have it and want to use it more on my music, I use flex pitch in my preferred DAW Logic X. Your video production is excellent.
Yes, you can use Waves Tune in Garage Band. GB is a great platform to get started in and if you outgrow the feature set the move to Logic is pretty seamless. The Tune techniques I touched on here are DAW independent. Thanks for watching!
@@sigmathletics You could commit the Tune processing by exporting/mixing down the solo track. In Logic you can “Bounce In Place” but I don’t know if that feature is part of GB. I can look into producing a Tune tutorial for Garage Band.
Thanks for checking out the video. I don't always choose a scale because it changes some of the way that the correction is applied. I also may not know the key of the song when it comes in. Once you have analyzed the vocals you can apply the scale afterwards to listen to the difference. This might work better on only certain parts so it may necessitate multing out the vocal sections (like with key changes and modulations). When working with metal there is often some atonal elements and dissonance happening in the music composition that can also play a bit funny with the scale selection part-to-part. I'm hoping to cover some more Tune techniques and insight in future videos so let me know if you're looking into more info any particular aspect of using the pluigin.
Simone, thanks for watching and taking the time to reply. If it would help to hear and understand the techniques I could create a video with the vocal in solo. For doing actual vocal tuning work though, it’s essential that I’m working in context with the backing track. In this video example, I’m tuning vocals over real recorded instruments so the tuning may not be 100% perfect. That’s why I will always tune the vocals while listening to how they sound over the instrumental track. Sometimes the vocal performance is recorded over a demo recording and the instrumental may get replaced at a later time during production / after vocal tuning has been completed. In that case it’s a good idea to listen through again and make any tuning adjustments to compensate for variations in the backing track.
@@benjaminjon8024 thank you for your kind answer! I am a beginner so I thought that seeing you working on the soloVoice could have helped me even more in understanding all of your moves.! of course then it would be necessary to blend in the rest of the tracks
This is exactly what I was looking for. Simple, Concise, and more than enough to get started with the plugin. And your audio and video are both top notch.
I was trying to purchase Waves Tune so I watched a bunch of RUclips videos of people reviewing it and the didn’t really say much that I could sink my teeth into - even some of the big guys we all really love and respect. I happened upon your videos and it was the real-life nuts-and-bolts description and tutorial I was looking for. I am now subscribed to your channel. Thank you Ben!
Thanks for the positive feedback, Michael! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and I will continue to post content in the same real-life context. If there is something you would like to see covered in more detail please add a question or comment. Most of my tutorial videos are in direct response to question I receive from producer friends working in their home studio.
Nice trick with the multi-selection and parameter adjustments to keep the vocals natural, thank u for making this video :)
Thanks
Clean, amazing, perfect, beautiful. Super cool. Thaaaaaaank you.
Thanks for that. Been using Melodyne for a while, this explains everything in a very simple way.
Thanks for checking out this video. Melodyne is also a great tool. I find that I mostly use Melodyne when I need to tune instruments like a bass guitar or sometimes when creating vocal harmonies. I definitely need to spend more time with Melodyne in order to make the most of what it can do! I have also been testing SynchroArts RePitch recently but I am not getting reliable compatibility in Samplitude yet.
Excellent run through. Thanks for the tips.
very informative video. thumbs up! can't wait for your next video with scale feature.
best tutorial i have seen so far, thanks
Great job, great song.
You can also use your up and down arrows (on your keyboard / laptop) once you select a note, or notes... that makes it easier !!
Also I find that pencil tool is really great for making very subtle corrections.
It took me a while to get used to it, but now I find it quite valuable.
“The best vocal correction you’ve never heard“. 🤘🤩🤘
Steve, thanks for chiming in! Pencil tool and arrow keys are great tools.
subbed!
thanks man
Do you have latency on waves tune and if you have it how to solve the problem about it?
great song!
Great tutorial! Would love to see that more advanced tutorial you talked about too
Thanks! I posted a Tune tutorial covering some work with the key and scale functions.
why to use this plugin having very advanced "flex pitch" option in Logic?
Hey, thanks for watching! I mostly use Waves Tune on Windows in Samplitude, so one reason to use it in Logic is because the same results can be achieved across platforms and in whatever DAW you are using. I have not used Flex Pitch yet, but I know that every different pitch automation software has it’s strengths, weaknesses, and quirks. I have used Waves Tune extensively for many years with reliable results for transparent vocal correction - but I do also use Auto-Tune, Melodyne, and zplane Elastique for specific tasks. I could do a video comparing Tune with Flex Pitch.
@@stillwork thanx for reply. BTW - Yesterday I decided to try Waves tune real time - and, - it is real fantastic product!
Im new to waves tune. you deleted the big peaks but Why don't you get rid of the tail drops as well?
That's an excellent question! In my experience, the "big peaks" are usually related to incorrect detection of harmonic overtone as the base note and that's why I put attention on deleting them. The "tail drops" are almost always part of the natural pitch drop-off that the human voice does at the tail end of a note and I feel it is important to preserve those. I usually do some specific editing to make the tail drops are preserved in their natural state by reducing the RATIO to 0% or drawing the curve manually for that tail section. It is a common mistake for inexperienced editors to try to flatten the whole note from front to back but that leads to very unnatural sounding results - there will almost always be a sharp pitch at the transient before the base note and then a pitch drop at the end of a note which you can see clearly if you look at the pitch waveforms in this video. I can do a video that talks more specifically about the tail drops which I think it would be helpful so I really appreciate you pointing this out - thanks!.
Where can I find Waves Rewire?
It’s installed along with Tune. What DAW are you using?
Where do you get or locate REWIRE, is it a plugin?
Waves ReWire is installed along with Waves Tune - it's a plugin with no audio output. It can show up in the plugin or ReWire menu. Some DAW's will autostart the connection and some like ProTools you need to manually add. Look for the specific documentation for your DAW.
@@stillwork I have Studio One 6.5,
Thank you
How do you just spot check specific notes? I want to keep most of the vocals untouched, but just zero in on a few notes.
Is there a way to do this within the plugin?
Outside, I guess I could automating the plugin out for the spots other than the ones I want to tweak, but, ehhhh....
Hey Ava. This would depend on your specific workflow and approach. If I were to only spot check a few notes and wanted to leave 90% of the vocal track untouched, then I would slice those sections/notes and move them to a separate track for processing. You could also user the % control to take the entire analyzed vocal down to 0% correction, and then just spot check certain notes by selecting those segments and turning them up to 100% correction.
@@benjaminjon8024 thanks so much!!! I was trying to do the latter, but it seemed like % change would reset globally. That's not the case?
Hey Ava, I posted a spot tuning using Waves Tune example here: ruclips.net/video/FpGH5b851JQ/видео.html
@@stillwork thank you !!!!
Is there a reason why you didn’t set the key of the song?
@@KingYahuchanon Great question. I may not know the key of the song, so the fastest way to get to work is to dive right in without selecting a root and scale and that was probably the case here. Working in Chromatic mode can preserve the singers melodic intention more closely and there may be passing tones that you would want to get an ear on before snapping to key. After analysis, I may set the key and then use the tolerance parameter selectively to ease the take into tune - which can be a fast path to a natural sounding take. Check out the Root and Key video link for more on that working method and thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/yCv8SBAwxlQ/видео.htmlsi=WuwXa3koUR11SDAp
I like your music!
Thank you 😊
I'm interested in videos about this product, I have it and want to use it more on my music, I use flex pitch in my preferred DAW Logic X. Your video production is excellent.
Excellent ! 👍👍👍👍👍 Thank you so much!!!
Glad you liked it!
Can you do this is GarageBand?
Yes, you can use Waves Tune in Garage Band. GB is a great platform to get started in and if you outgrow the feature set the move to Logic is pretty seamless. The Tune techniques I touched on here are DAW independent. Thanks for watching!
@@benjaminjon8024 Also, can you export the vocals back to your audio track?
@@sigmathletics You could commit the Tune processing by exporting/mixing down the solo track. In Logic you can “Bounce In Place” but I don’t know if that feature is part of GB. I can look into producing a Tune tutorial for Garage Band.
@@benjaminjon8024 the changes still take effect when I close the plug-in sooo... problem solved?
WILL U EVER WAKE UUUUUHHHHHHP !
Good video but you forgot to choose the scale :D
Thanks for checking out the video. I don't always choose a scale because it changes some of the way that the correction is applied. I also may not know the key of the song when it comes in. Once you have analyzed the vocals you can apply the scale afterwards to listen to the difference. This might work better on only certain parts so it may necessitate multing out the vocal sections (like with key changes and modulations). When working with metal there is often some atonal elements and dissonance happening in the music composition that can also play a bit funny with the scale selection part-to-part. I'm hoping to cover some more Tune techniques and insight in future videos so let me know if you're looking into more info any particular aspect of using the pluigin.
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nice work thank you! only complain: It could have been even Better with the vocal in solo without music....
Simone, thanks for watching and taking the time to reply. If it would help to hear and understand the techniques I could create a video with the vocal in solo. For doing actual vocal tuning work though, it’s essential that I’m working in context with the backing track. In this video example, I’m tuning vocals over real recorded instruments so the tuning may not be 100% perfect. That’s why I will always tune the vocals while listening to how they sound over the instrumental track. Sometimes the vocal performance is recorded over a demo recording and the instrumental may get replaced at a later time during production / after vocal tuning has been completed. In that case it’s a good idea to listen through again and make any tuning adjustments to compensate for variations in the backing track.
@@benjaminjon8024 thank you for your kind answer! I am a beginner so I thought that seeing you working on the soloVoice could have helped me even more in understanding all of your moves.! of course then it would be necessary to blend in the rest of the tracks
Bruh that was an F
(Great vid btw, Iearned a lot :D)
You are correct! It’s about time someone caught that LOL