MauLer Shreds Deadpool & Wolverine | EFAP Highlight
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"I dont like this film"
Man you can hear the pain in the long mans voice.
The part he was near tears when he says how Deadpool dig Wolverines corps minutes after Logan Was sadly not in this clip.
"I don't like this film." Me in 2017 watching Logan. I have shredded that film. It completely ruined the ending most of the movie fans had ever hoped for with regards to Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. But Mauler is a weird twisted guy that has no concern what-so-ever for that.
@@gokenji1194 Well, luckily Logan is not canon to X-Men 1, 2, 3, DofP, but somehow it is canon to Deadpool. That gives me a chuckle.
I enjoyed the movie, but I'm not blind to its many failings
Everything that wasn't action, flopped.
I don’t know how this movie is any better than MoM
@@scnoz1430 Come on now, was it *that* bad?
@@LonelySolitude Your expectations are too high.
@@urbanberndtsson As far as integrity goes it's really catastrophic. Entertainment wise it's, for most people, pretty fun.
Perhaps I misunderstood what Deadpool said in the opening. Because I thought when he's saying how can we do this without dishonouring Logan that they wouldn't. As in they wouldn't be able to do it without dishonouring Logan and then made it a punchline with the skeleton.
That's exactly what it is. He said something like, "You're probably wondering how we'll pull this off without dishonoring Logan? We won't."
Deadpool didn't say they wouldn't be able to it without dishonoring Logan, he said they wouldn't do it without dishonoring Logan.
@@gs4011 It's another example of "we're going to lampshade a problem then do it anyway". Like when Deadpool said "audiences are used to long runtimes". Unfortunately highlighting the problem doesn't alleviate it as a problem.
@@Dave_L913why is it a problem? Do you think Deadpool cares? Is he supposed to sit down and have a cry? I don't understand why this scene is such a problem
The joke is that the movie exists as an official MCU product.
If the EFAP crew made a parody of what the MCU has become, it'd look a lot like this film.
Cameos: The Movie.
No that was the flash
@@alexanderfletcher3375 that was the flash and deadpool 3
At least the cameos in Deadpool 3 made sense, the ones in the flash could be literally anyone
That was the point tho?@@arkanamaster4961
I walk off the theater and had fun. 1 Day after I register, would it work a Sec time without the wow. For me no.
Member berries are a hellva drug.
Damn I'm doing numbers
I just don't care anymore.
This is going to be like Ready Player One where everyone raves about it initially but in a week they forget about it.
Even worse, like the Fallout show 🤦🏽♂️
Except Ready Player One is directed 150 times better than this
@@scaredlobsteroehhhh...
@@scaredlobsteroeh, idk. To me, it’s easily one of Spielberg’s weakest.
But the two films are comparable, imo. They’re clapping seals films
Let's be real that's all entertainment these days
Something really bugged me pretty much the entire time watching it.
The TVA loved Logan for the sacrifice he made. So they delete the girl, that he died to save, by sending her to the void?
I vaguely recall the film explaining The Void as the place the TVA sends the people that would resist the deletion of their timeline. But she's from the same timeline as Deadpool, who did resist the deletion. The same timeline that still has the X-Men and Avengers (and likely many others that would resist). Why the fuck did they decide this 13-18 year old girl was such a threat to their plans?
edit:
In searching for an answer, a different mind-fuck has become apparent to me. This Deadpool is from 2023. Logan died in 2029. They recruited a guy from a dying universe before the event that makes it dying has happened. Then they let the anchor guy's alternate live in that same universe before he's died. But also let the girl he died to save, who they pruned for seemingly no reason, live in that universe? Why the fuck wouldn't she go save her 8 year old self from the labs?
This movie is so fucking poorly written. And the worst thing is that it makes Weapon 11 Deadpool canon in the MCU.
You watched the movie with some 10 year lore building expectations when it’s a fucking DEADPOOL FUN MOVIE. How fucking stupid can you be in your disappointment 😂
@@Hyperman6996 you must be new to EFAP. Begone tourist!
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish what
The Void is where they sent people they didn't want to make movies about. They didn't continue her story, so the void it is.
The whole film is just meta jokes about movie franchises. It wasn't hard to get.
@@Hyperman6996 I see you deleted your previous comment.
This movie was a better flash. That’s exactly how I feel about it.
I weep at the accuracy of this statement. The conversation has been sickening, I am floored this film is going to set/reestablish any precedent*.
@@Whiskeytosparrow Did this felt like a Deadpool movie?Yes.Was it better than first?No.Second?No.Was it best that marvel can make atm?Seems like it.
That’s about all it was, agree with that summation.
This is a certified Watchmojo TOP 10 Mauler Maulologues.
Genuinely one of his best closes and it wasn’t even a scripted video, although I’d guess he’d given his words some thought before hand. They sounded considered.
So glad you clipped it.
Good episode. This film is deeply upsetting. Not in a good way.
Is there ever anything deeply upsetting in a good way?
The film's success is 90% fans being happy they're not being actively preached to or openly despised. For once.
@@vilelucaWhich is a sad standard, honestly.
@@StigMurcielago Which is the crux of it all really. We should aspire to becoming as good as we once had it decades ago as the standard.
@@Kanaleahmaybe an existential horror or a disturbing portrayal of war can illicit the good kind of "upsetting"?
It’s a pretty big double standard. Spiderman and Deadpool for some reason get so much more grace given to them than the rest of Marvel. And the success of mediocre movies like this just funds more garbage that we’re gonna get over the next few years. So many Marvel fans are like battered housewives. They keep coming back despite getting slapped in the face over and over again, and for some reason they expect things to be ‘different this time’
mauler included
Critics, whether they're fans or not, have to engage with the films in order to give an honest review. More importantly to bring studios to task about the wrong they've been doing against the fans and IP. The whole idea of ignoring the studios won't make studios change their ways. The fans voices are finally being heard and studios are paying attention. That would have never Happened staying quiet and not engaging with the content
@@billienews I’m not talking about critics. I understand they’re going to see movies no matter what, I’m talking about the casual audience.
The top reply@@samael4550
@@billienews studios couldn’t care less about reading fans’ (bigots’) backlash. even if they did, they would learn the wrong lessons from it. the only reason they are now sweating is precisely because fans have begun to ignore these movies in droves instead.
I don’t think you’re wrong about your critique, I think you’re just early.
“I’m not a monster, I’m just ahead of the curve”
The only thing worse than memberberries is "Hey, 'member when you complained that other movies didn't do the canon thing from the books? We read your comments and did the exact thing you wanted, we did all the things, but in an edgier, meta way! And then we kicked them in the nuts and cut them in half. We're cool, right? ...Can we hang out with you now?"
It’s deadpool. That’s what he does. Seems like you were just a moron for expecting different.
@@MysteriousStranger50rewatch the first two Deadpool films.
Does this count as Mauler shredding Deapool 3? He spends the majority of the clip making an odd depressed comment about what could've been done, and Fringy is talking for 80% of it while he's silent.
It made me laugh, and I had fun. You are absolutely correct about the bigger picture.
But it does the one thing most of phase 4 didn't and that's provide a good time.
Yea I had fun watching it but magine it did all that but also was written well
The bar is below the crust at this point
I think they did more of a disservice to Vanessa than to Deadpool and Wolverine combined. I agree they could have done more to develop Deadpool and Wolverine in the movie. I believe the reason why it is as successful as it is, despite its shortcomings, is because it is one of the best movies released in recent years.
Looks like the dumb “It was fun, you having expectations is LAME” takes are starting to trickle in
Looks like the "Everything is terrible/Nothing is good " takes are trickling in...
My expectations were set by the previous Deadpool films, and it lived up/down to those expectations.
To be honest, I liked it. I kept my expections low. It's like expecting an orchestral level of excellence for a pop song. You not going to get that. It's a Deadpool film.
The joke is that a movie parodying modern Marvel is a canonical part of the MCU.
@@druxpack8531I don't even know what movies these guys even like at this point, have they liked anything recently?
Why is this “Mauler shreds W&D” when Fringy does most of the mauling, Jesus. He really beat it down.
If the point of a movie is to entertain, it was a good movie.
If the point of the movie is to tell a good story, well.....im still not sure what crawled up Vanessa's arse.
Why can't it be both?
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish That's what I ask every time
It just seems like an embarrassing legacy. Are people in 30+ years really going to understand or like all this MCU crossover/multiple universes/meta humor? I highly doubt it.
Interesting how this Highlight clipped a part of the stream that didn't even have Rags in the call...
Wolf finally got his revenge for all the times he wanted to say or has said, "STFU Rags"
Glad there is no rags. He adds nothing. Efap would be so much better without him
@@criticalcommenter I couldn’t even have said, “Hi Rags” if I wanted to, cause for once it wouldn’t be accurate
I'll never understand why some people hate rags
@@minion3806 I hate rags, he ruined my Halloween and my grandma
I wanted to do the quinton I hate trump speech but I forgot the exact words and can't be assed too look it up
@@minion3806 Somehow, despite the title, this was more of a “Fringy Shreds…” Highlight than one of MauLer’s own
I enjoyed the trip down memory lane but I can still acknowledge how weak the plot was. It really bugged me that Logan reunites with an important character from his storyline yet they hardly interact outside of one scene. Makes me wonder how receptive we would've been to Deadpool and Wolverine if we were in a timeline where the MCU wasn't in shambles.
A character that Logan had literally just met in the previous scene no less. He didnt even get the highlight reel like deadpool did
Why would him and Laura interact? They've literally never met eachother before, unless you're talking about Sabertooth as that "important character" from his storyline 😅
So would you say that Deadpool using Logan's skeleton as a weapon to beat his harrassers with is fitting imagery?
I think one of the biggest reasons why people like this movie is because there is so much crap something that is halfway decent seem great by comparison.
Or people are fine watching a dumb movie that doesn’t push any bullshit. It was two immortal dudes killing and joking, anyone wanting more or expecting more is an idiot. It’s no different than those shitty Arnold action movies from the 80s.
Well for me it's a very simple matter of being happy about my favorite movie character in the world being alived again, because I couldn't stand him being dead for 7 years right on the heels of his well earned happy ending at Days of Future Past. They even resurrected Jean and Cyclops. Only to kill them off off screen in an inferior Logan (2017). And while I have very strong emotionally motivated things to say on that topic, I have criticism on how bad in quality Logan was as well. Example: When Xavier dies, the soundtrack completely drops the ball and instead of the incredibly powerful music that should have been composed for such a moment, one single note is heard from a bass guitar. What the eff? I guess Marco Beltrami thought the same thing about what they had done to the characters as I did? That guy is a legend with movies like Scream under his belt.
I don't disagree with pretty much anything these two are saying. I still enjoyed myself with this movie.
You guys got a solid point, we could get films that offer so much more in terms of story and characters. But when Wolverine put on his mask I went "Ooooooooooo!"
If the argument is you people are just happy with keys jangleing in your face, then yes, I'll take that over getting slapped in the face by the marvels or whatever and telling my I'm problematic and a bad person.
@@bl00dth1rsty9the argument is we wanted a fun entertaining comic book movie and we got one
@@bl00dth1rsty9 Hey, some junk food every now and then isn't that big of a crime.
“It’s not supposed to make sense” The movie
That about sums up more than 1/2 the run time and that terrible 3rd act.
none of the deadpool movies make sense. The guy has time travel device he never uses. He also knows hes in an action movie.
@emptyblank099a Untrue. The first two movies aren't perfect, but they function as actual stories.
Mauler is immune to key jangling.
Mauler is immune to fun
@@ManHamOrigins He is immune to brainwashing.
@@ManHamOrigins *shallow fun
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish"shallow"
@@shepherd2148 superficial does qualify as shallow, yes.
For those who disagree in the comments. He is correct. Story and character wise the show is poor, however, that doesn't mean you cant like it. I enjoy the film Eragon despite its many flaws and practically insult to the original books. Just because you like something doesn't mean you have to defend it from any criticism. This is the same at those who defend Star Wars episodes 7-9. Bad films but people still like them. Don't waste your time bashing Mauler for actually criticizing a film by what makes it a story. He's a critic isn't he, and a far better one than those who just lick the boot of rich companies.
I'm gonna go ahead and say the Eragon books deserved the insult that the film is, those books are garbage.
The point is, a movie can be more than the sum of its parts. Yes, MauLer can identify every teeny ween flaw in a movie, but what about the overall enjoyment? It never comes into play when he or his fellowship score a movie. And that's a problem. I remember the GotG3 review which went kinda the same way. BUT they all said they had a fun time with the movie and enjoyed it. They scored it between a 2 or a 3. Sorry, but that is just plain re|arded. If you hear someone say "yeah, the movie's a 2" and you go "oh, you hated it?" and the other person goes "no, I enjoyed it quite a lot", you would be "Okay.....?". Not how it works.
Whether or not it is a poor story it is good to see actual characters in films for one that are likeable not girl boss later generation bad and everything in between for a change
But what if I disagree *because* I don’t think Mauler is correct - is that allowed? 🤔
Correct but even he isn’t immune to this defensive backlash. In his House of the Dragon after episode streams with Gary, he’s very defensive of the show and tosses valid critiques out the window, or strawmans them as a completely outrageous claim or lampshade the critique as it being a smaller problem than everyone else thinks it is. It’s bad.
I feel upset that I enjoyed parts of this movie, my partner and I were just sorely dissatisfied with not seeing Deadpool’s Actual Family in the story again. Instead it’s all these People that we, Frankly, didn’t give a shit about.
The cringiest thing about efap's criticism is the "They disrespected the prior characters". Weirdly enough that is the most minor of criticisms, it's an alternative Wolverine, not reliant on prior history, and Deadpool, the humanizing elements in the prior stories were the most not like comic Deadpool moments, at his core he is chaotic neutral and aware he is an entertainment property tossing those away for the purpose of entertainment is something he'd do, and everyone else is new.
This is gonna sound niche but I really dislike how at climaxes the only way to defeat the big bad is to find the one weakness to the McGuffin and overpower it. I didn't come to watch an action movie to see the protagonists hold hands and listen to "epicfied" 80s music. What I wanted to see was Nova and evil British man #3617 get their shit kicked in and even then these antagonists sucked.
It's not McGuffin it's McMuffin man.
Movie criticism to put right up on the fridge next to "I don't get it, what's the political message of this joke?"
That entire scene was to set up the shirtless joke.
I'll never forgive what they did to The Juggernaut
Its a disgrace
I saw an interview after, and the original actor (for the Fox universe) said he hates putting on the suit and they couldn't line up a deal. Now you could argue "don't have him then" but it's not like Toad or Johnny Storm. The story is based around this character being there. And depending on when this was decided, this would mean significant rewrites. So it's not as simple of a fix.
@@mrshmuga9 yes it is
They can write better from the start
How is that a disgrace? Juggernaut isnt that hard to kill, he's not invincible and he has no healing factor, he wears all that armor for a reason, the Xmen in the comics just dont kill people so trying to defeat a bulldozer is hard, but every AU story or what if where someone like Wolverine gets to cut loose, he does something exactly like cutting Juggernaut's ankles like in the movie to stop him from running, or just stab him in the face.
Juggernaut is literally indestructible what are you on about?
I headcanon Deadpool 2's Juggernaut is the true Juggernaut with the magic gem and all and X-Men 3's Juggernaut is just a powerful mutant akin to the Ultimate version of him, so I can let it slide that Laura kills him.
It feels like Ryan Reynolds didn't have as much control over this movie as he did over Deadpool 1 & 2. It's like some corporate tool glommed onto the success of those movies, didn't understand WHY they were successful, (good writing, character arcs that made sense), decided they could do better and wrapped THIS movie's story up in their typical MCU crap writing. They need to stop trying to incorporate good franchises into their sh*tty universe. They can't even handle the story needs of ONE universe, let alone a multiverse.
You didn't like the 50 times they joked about wanting to do cocaine but couldn't do cocaine because they're with Disney now?
Much like the comic counterparts, Deadpool is far better in his solo outings, where his interactions with the rest of the wider established Marvel Universe are minimal and isolated. As opposed to his appearances in events and team-ups with anyone not named Cable where he is usually relegated to a comic relief side character and/or is portrayed as entirely annoying and unlikeable.
All I wanted was Deadpool and Wolverine, and I got Deadpool and Wolverine, therefore I'm satisfied
nice to hear the boys talk without rags interrupting every 15 seconds to parrot their words verbatim.
"Truuuuuueeeee!"
HAHA! Thought the same thing, how nice it was not hearing his try hard dad jokes being peppered in.
And then rant for 10 minutes dragging out each syllable and saying "and" and "um" while he finds synonyms for what he's saying
@@xrphoenix7194 and then claim he’s “only trying to pull his weight” when called out on it
As much as rags interrupts, it's a nice break from hearing fringy talk for hours. He unironically talks 2x if not 3x as much as mauler. 90 percent of efap is just fringy talking
I did enjoy the movie but probably wont watch it again
The part where he knocked the X off of the grave was fkn hilarious
Mauler upon seeing the next Marvel film: Perhaps, I treated you too harshly.
I actually enjoyed this movie but to each their own I will say the story is messy as all hell but I still had fun watching it
People can enjoy bad movies is not impossible sjsjj
@@spinosaurusstriker The problem is that it was a meta comedy that Mauler thought was going to be a serious Civil War style film.
He's disappointed because his expectations were incorrect.
@@vileluca I don't think that's it, the movie just isn't as good as Deadpool 1 or even 2. It isn't as tight, the character motivations make less sense (for everyone that isn't DP&Wolvy), the music is too overindulgent, even for a DP flick, and the movie just drags in spots. I liked it overall, but there are absolutely valid critiques to be made
@@gs4011there are valid critiques to be made about every movie. And this film's plot was dead the moment they included the TVA.
@@vileluca i guess that was his way of saying how he would like the movie but not an espectation on how if it wasn't that then its bad
I have a crazy, unrelated and most likely inaccurate thought that if James Mangold hadn't trampled his entire illustrious career with Indy 5 trainwreck, this movie could look quite different when disrespecting Logan is concerned.
You know what I miss in movies? Sincerity.
This part of the breakdown really makes it FEEL like an Unbridled Rage
I'll agree that the script is shit. But I still had fun. At least more fun than most of the recent stuff I've watched.
Same, I also had a good time 😊
Always that caveat. I wish we could get back to enjoying a movie without having to compare it to worse crap.
That's not as good of a defense as you think it is. Its literally the same as star wars theorys "Dave filoni piss in a dessert" analogy. Just because you're in an ocean of shit, doesn't make the corn kernel any better.
@@zachrohler1047Geeze dude, all he said was that he enjoyed himself despite the script being shit.
@@zachrohler1047 Never said I was defending it. Just saying I had fun while watching.
Imagine a version of Wolverine where in order to save the X-Men, his family, he had to make a choice that resulted in the deaths of all sentient life other than mutants. You can through in some diplomatic asgardians, kree, skrulls and have this choice have universal consequences like setting off a war tearing galaxies apart. And at the end, the X-Men turn their backs on Ligan for the choice. How would he live with himself? How would it change him? How would Deadpool bring him out of it? We'll never know cause Disney is too incompetent than having a Logan who went on one killing spree.
Why would it be Logan that made the choice? Xavier or Cyclops seem more fit for that scenario.
I didn't really care about the movie going in, so there was no wiggle room to disappoint me. I think that's the same place a lot of viewers are in right now.
What, were you expecting them to take Deadpool, a brand new Logan, and MCU myltiverse rules and make an actual great movie? You guys aren't cyclical enough apparently.
This movie gets a pass on weak story and “no deaths” bc it’s Deadpool, the 4th wall breaker. That’s what fans want to see and laugh about. The problem is almost all other marvel movies try to be this so it seems stale.
I personally totally agree with mauler. we should hold the film to the same criteria we held doctor strange Multiverse of madness which didn't have any where the level of key jangling this film had. I don't think it's wrong to like the film, I just think we shouldn't be hypocrites which is what we call the marvel fans that love everything that marvel put's out even if it is blatantly trash.
I don’t understand how anyone could say that. Aside from arguably Henry Cavill, the cameos were very deliberately chosen in the context of the story being told and the themes. That’s deeper than just pure key jangling random fan fave characters.
If they wanted to do that they wouldn’t go with Channing Tatum Gambit (who requires an above average level of film industry knowledge to understand) or Jennifer Garner Elektra who is unparalleled in terms of forgettable superhero performances.
I *DO* think it's wrong to *like* this film if you *didn't* like MoM or Loki.
Hypocrisy is disgusting and cringe. I find it morally abhorrent to try to prop up *this* movie when it's functionally identical to the two *worst stories in HUMAN HISTORY.*
Dude sign off and go outside. Your brain is rotting.
Morally abhorrent? Are we still discussing Marvel movies? Calm down, it's not that big of a deal. @@eidolon1426
@@eidolon1426 But Loki and MoM were soulless and not entertaining. Deadpool and Wolverine is a comedy movie, you can criticize its bad writing but if a comedy movie is funny then it's accomplished its task. Seriously man, you can pull Mauler's cock out of your mouth.
Cameos & References: The Movie
Characters like Deadpool: *exist*
MauLr: *Brain.exe has stopped working*
You know I'm right.
Did they ever address the writer's strike happening in the middle of this film's creation? I'm not sure to what extent it impacted it, but I'm wondering if that's why it became "corporate slop" to maintain deadlines or something
Half of the movie felt like it well written the other half felt like corporate slop ngl. The first half felt like a shit post that was practically a middle finger to marvel multiverse. The second half was trying to put a close on the Wolverine arc they dug up that didn’t land at all. It feels like two different writers with different intentions. One was hard set on the movie just being goofy and stupid with jabs at marvel the other was set on trying to actually pull out some emotion that didn’t land at all.
Music sucked this time. Deadpool doesn't break the 4th wall properly anymore, it's all "Look nerds!"
"A 4th wall break within a 4th wall break? That's like... 16 walls."
That's what it always was, goofball lol
@@mrshmuga9 "16 times the walls. It just works." - Toddpool.
@@mrshmuga9 When I heard that line the first time, I said out loud "That's not a fourth wall break, that's narration." I even heard a "yeah" from someone else in the theater lol.
>she speaks out loud during a movie
>thathappened.gif
And everybody clapped. Now shut the fuck up next time. Be respectful of other viewers.
Yeah, this is one of those movies that I know how major flaws, but I just don't care. Entertainment value is a hell of a thing when it counts
When watching the previous movie becames a problem during the vision of the next one, you know something is wrong
I like it but it could’ve been way stronger, especially in comparison to the previous film. Seems like a symptom of going bigger but not being better, plus the “Marvel-y” tone and look.
“Brace for sludge” should absolutely be the takeaway for this movie.
I definitely think Deadpool 1 and 2 were far better than Deadpool and Wolverine, the chemistry between Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds was the best part those two bickering were the best scenes and the action between the two but everything else felt like just an utter mess and I did not care about anything that was happening. The anchor point plot is a dangerous mcguffin to cameo and nostalgia bait and we're already seeing it in action. TVA still don't make any sense to me then again i havent watched anything past Loki season 1 MCU related, Jackman can still go as Wolverine and I can't see anyone else playing him honestly he does way too good of a job but yeah, was just ok to me.
Hulk vs Wolverine is a better Deadpool and Wolverine film imo.
I think as soon as I saw the TVA, my brain just realised this was going to be badly written and just told me to enjoy the flashing colors
Well the good news is…Disney will never see a dime from me for the rest of my life. Done forever.
Best part of the movie for me was the fight scene in the van. Just them going at it and talking shit in a very unique setting and how it ends with them both beaten and bloody with Deadpool wrapped up in the seat belts was fantastic. But the rest was nothing to write home about
"We're not gonna disrespect the ending of Logan... then Deadpool digs up his corpse and uses it to beat up a bunch of TVA agents."
Fringy, that's kinda the whole joke of the intro. Bringing back Wolverine at all is a desperate cash grab move, and they decided to showcase that choice with the most batshit insane way to do so.
They LITERALLY say it in the film “you’re probably wondering how we are going to go about not respecting him… we aren’t” or something like that
So because they're aware that what they're doing is stupid... that all of a sudden makes it not stupid?
Yeah. The frustrating thing is they’re so used to the source material being battered that they swing too hard at any disney stuff. And it seems like Andor is the only exception to this. They’re mostly correct with their critiques though
@@goshtheguardian7454 there's no way to use Hugh Jackman as wolverine without disrespecting Logan. So they leaned into it for humor.
This movie tossed out anything efap considers quality for meta pay-off & humour. And shockingly, most people liked it anyway.
@@MysteriousStranger50Thank you. Call these idiots objective movie critics.
Mauler doesn’t like a comic book movie im shocked
I dont think I agree here and they didnt really provide much convincing argument tbh...
Watch the whole efap. They make great arguments
@@bikramarora1819 Eh... thats an incredibly long video to get their opinions on a movie I've already watched... I'll probably pass lol
@@EbonMaster cool. Just know that they made extremely convincing arguments and you’re the one who is willfully ignoring them.
@@bikramarora1819 meh. If they clip out said convincing arguments and post em I'll watch but time is a finite resource, man.
@@bikramarora1819it doesn't work like that. You're basically using the "Google it" argument for why I should believe the movie wasn't as good as I thought.
If Mauler seriously thought it was ass he'd have done a thorough evisceration like he has for past films
Let’s get to the crux of it. The problem is the tone they have set for Deadpool. He has become a parody of himself. They are always trying to up the foolishness. IMO if they had toned that crap way down and used it more strategically we could have gotten a good movie.
You get mad at this movie for "insulting" wolverine's death in logan. In the opening of deadpool 2, deadpool pulls out a toy of logan that's pierced by a tree and spins around. Making jokes about logan's death is not the same thing as insulting him.
I thought the same thing
He really went into a Deadpool project expecting it to be respectful.
Did he forget deadpool killing ryan reynolds. How are these clowns so sensitive to mild jokes.
Digging up a corpse and beating you enemies with it is taking it a bit to far, the thing in the 2nd movie is tame in comparison
@@Rusty84CV were you expecting a deadpool movie to not be violent, offensive, and crude?
…am I the only one that didn’t see it in theaters.
EDIT: Logan NOIR is how I rewatch that movie over and over, I don’t know why I prefer it black and white over color.
To each their own.
I don't understand why anyone even cares about this stuff anymore.
I feel the pain where you desperately want to love a movie but it just lets you down
Reminds me of The Batman movie
Except it was a good film
@@levstepanov2892 which one the batman or deadpool 3?
@@levstepanov2892The movie was excessively long for absolutely no reason
Except The Batman was actually a great movie and Deadpool 3 was utter shite lol.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreak it was good but not great
To many storytelling problems to simply just ignore
Okay now give the same treatment to House of the Dragon. Stop treating everyone else’s arguments as invalid or smaller problems than everyone’s claiming they are.
Look at peoples comments talking about this show. People aren't saying they are wrong. They are saying movie gets to suck on a literary level because comedy. Goombas cooming over memberberrys. Stuff people have always said to defend other tragically written media.
@@-Azure.EXE- It was a post-Logan Wolverine movie. It was always going to be about memberberries. That was obvious from the title.
I enjoyed the movie, had a great time with my son. It was better than I thought it would be. I'm fine with people not liking it.
You make good points. Considering the Sludge, we've been feed lately, this movie hit at the right time, and it was Entertaining at least.
They already completely drained me of any care for Marvel, I've lost any investment in all stories and characters. They can literally do anything and it just rolls off.
This was such a tonic, God love Mauler!
Honestly I completely get how Mauler and Fringy feel. I liked the movie but I recognize it’s a superficial. Character and plot is done. Which should irritate me to hate this thing but I just don’t. I guess it’s self awareness in recognizing something bad but I guess my standards aren’t high enough? Because I do agree we could have gotten a better film. Anything can be improved. All in all, I look forward to people roasting me in the comments. ;)
Honestly speaking, I know the movie's not perfect but I saw the movie and saw it as a love letter to the past. A lot of characters got treated with respect, at least some of them, since, if you saw the movie, you know which ones don't but it's fine in the context and it's not like what happened in other recent MCU movies.
At the end of the day, that's why I like this movie. It's plot might be simple, I might've been hoping Deadpool would've done some killing of certain characters much earlier, but despite those plot issues, the movie didn't shit on beloved characters and even gave them a respectable send off. I don't need perfect. I don't need a masterpiece. I just need a movie that makes half-way decent sense and respect. That's the movie we got.
Should we expect more from media? Yes, absolutely. Are we going to get that from Marvel? Doubtful. Is this as high as we're gonna get from Disney in a long while? Most likely.
Maybe some day, but for now I'm going to enjoy Deadpool and Wolverine. It's worth putting in my movie collection in my book.
It was fine for what it was.
It wasn't even really connected to the rest of the MCU.
It was a love letter to the fans and an obituary for a bygone era.
it was stupid but fun, I think they played with breaking the 4th wall well, I only wish the story made at least some sense, but its a Deadpool movie, I didnt expect much and wasnt disappointed
Deadpool did say straight up that he WAS going to dishonor the memory of Logan. That this movie couldn't be made without doing so. The fact you missed that rather clear line, is hilarious. It was among the first lines of the movie. Missing that, makes me wonder what else you missed.
They literally could have not connected it to the Logan universe and it wouldn't have disrespected it.
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish Well, according to them, you couldn't make the movie without doing so. Who am I to believe? Some random stranger on the internet? Or the people actually directly involved with both movies?
I personally don't even find it disrespectful. And I don't understand people who do. It's just a movie. A piece of entertainment.
I really don't enjoy Deadpool and his constant cringe jokes, but I'll watch anything with Hugh Jackman as wolverine.
Whenever it was just x23 and Logan at the campfire it made me realize I to would have preferred that serious elseworld movie and just remove Deadpool completely.
Even that scene felt hollow to me because that Logan had literally never met her, never had any sort of interaction with her, nor even knew about all the stuff mainline Logan did. Dead pool does. If anybody in the crew was to talk to Logan, it should have been the dude hes spent the most time with. Not a girl the fans recognize who was added to the story literally 1 scene ago.
Thought it was really good, saw it twice. Sorry to have to disagree with my man Mauler
you cut out the entire speech, this video starts after the best part is over
Yeah, I think Wolf missed a trick here by not clipping it from the start of MauLer reminiscing fondly about Logan, building to a crescendo and then hitting Disney with a firehose of venom. Maybe the algorithm doesn't like Human Centipede word pictures.
One simple change would have made it at *least* 30% better for me, and at most 50%. And all they had to do is make it a baby shower rather then Wades birthday.
If Wade and Vanessa were happily married, and expecting; that would have made the stakes much higher.
And it could have given Wolverine and Deadpool a meaningful moment after the fight in the car if Wolverine asked why he lied and Wade told him it was because he was about to have a kid and all he could think about is getting home/saving them.
I was struggling to explain how I felt until I heard you guys articulate it. I wanted this movie to be good but I walked out disappointed.
While watching Deadpool & Wolverine I was thinking 'oh yeh, this is the same humour the other movies had' then went back and watched Deadpool 1 and 2 and can say that 3 is WAY more over the top. In some instances that worked, in some instances it didnt.
Haven't seen it coz Disney but it was fun listening to them shred it. Some of Maulers best delivery, the man has a Valyrian Steel tongue sharper than anythin & doesn't lose it's edge 😂
I wonder if EFAP knows that Dafne and Marvel have confirmed X-23 in this film is the same X-23 from Logan
That makes it even worse.
Anytime i saw the trailers i said out loud "Member berries"
Member Blade?
With rare exceptions, the best comedies and/or action movies still have heart, they still have a point, they still have characters you care about for more than "they cool." Not only has Hollywood forgotten this, but so many viewers have forgotten this. It doesn't have to be incredibly deep but it will always be more and entertaining to see a hero we like and relate to get his cathartic victory over the villain than it will be to have meaningless jokes or two cardboard cutouts whack into each other, or to have jokes with proper set up and payoff than just "lulz so random." Die Hard is a great example; it's not perfect, nothing is perfect, but it's a very tightly-written film with likeable characters, a good conflict, funny jokes, good action, and a great ending. They actually cared to put in the effort and created a classic film that was ALSO funny and entertaining. It's fine to fail, but they aren't even trying anymore, and it's sort of annoying when movie-goers contradict themselves to clap at one flavor of forgettable "content" after dissing others.
This was more like a poke instead of a shredding.
That's what the whole stream was.
@grandarkfang_1482 I really do feel like Mauler and Fringy just wanted to dislike it. Especially the Human Torch bit where Mauler literally just says he didn't want to see it so that makes it bad. Strange criticisms at times.
@isaiahgonzales9989 yeah and that's not how criticism works. You can't hate an apple for not being an orange. It's ridiculous and much more a "them" problem than a "movie" problem.
@@isaiahgonzales9989It was bad, Mauler did say he liked to see human tourch again but the way he was treated was shit and disrespectful.
@guilhermelisboa1857 Not every character needs to be treated with reverence and respect. He didn't complain about Pyro, or Sabretooth being completely destroyed in this movie. Come now, just admit his "criticism," was based on personal emotion regarding the character. Not everyone is objective all the time.
Wil Wheaton in the movie theater tweeting "I Love Slop give me more yum yum yum"
Feels like we’re reaching the Ready Player One phase of every franchise
Anybody else remember when Hugh Jackman said he wouldn't return to the role of Wolverine unless he was in the Avengers?
He's going to be in the next Avengers as far as I know.
You can say the same things about Spider-Man no way home ...but you liked that film. And that film was awful
That film had heart, even if you can argue it doesn't make sense.
@@billjacobs521 So, it's the same as Deadpool 3 then and they're tossing out objectivity because they didn't like the movie?
@@billjacobs521 heart? That film was utter soulless slop made for Redditors to soy face over.
I really love what this film has done for many of the actors making cameos and really brought respect to their cancelled projects and their overall contribution to Marvel Cinema.
But the film really could have been funnier and epic as well because such a thing is possible. Not all of deadpool's jokes landed and some scenes could have been made much better. It is a decent film with very good intentions but it really had the potential to be a really really good one.
Yeah, it felt more like an event for the actors rather than a movie, which isn't that bad it it could have been better. Deadpool 2 is still the best one.
It really is amazing. They've been doing ungodly abomination of a movie after ungodly abomination of a movie and the general public had finally started to kinda not like it, but now that they made ungodly abomination of a movie (But we think it's bad too) the audience inmediatly goes back in line to acepting it and liking it. It's as if putting the veil of irony over the movie really does make people blind to its issues, or at the very least more acepting of them, even if the movie is at just about the same level as any other of its peers, which is already reaching critical depth.
Just keep doing shitty movies until people get tired then make shitty movie laughing at the trend of shitty movies and finally continue making shitty movies with the trend set by the ironic shitty movie. They had to touch the few umblemished parts of the franchise for it aswell. God fucking damnit.
Ironically, one of the best things in this movie is what I found to be kind of the biggest letdown… finally getting to see Wolverine in his classic uniform with his mask and everything after 25 freaking years, only for it to be undermined imo by gratuitous humor and edgy jokes while annoying pop music is playing in the background. It’s just not the vibe I want or expect when watching Wolverine go on one of his epic killing rampages. It’s like, on one hand, it’s great to finally see him in the full getup, but on the other, the movie leaves me wishing it was under completely different circumstances where the tone was more serious.
Still gotta give the movie props for putting him in it in the first place. Seeing him in the full costume makes you wonder how they never did it before this.
"I've discovered that most critics themselves are cinematically illiterate. They don't really know much about movies. They don't know the history. They don't know the technology. They don't know anything. So for them to try to analyse it, they're lost." -George Lucas
This literally describes Mauler and his friends lol
@@za-ir5ni indeed
I definitely had my issues with the plot, and didn't agree with Vanessa leaving Wade at the beginning, but I still came away satisfied. Yes, it's memberberry heavy, but in more of a cynical way, which is what I expect from Deadpool. I see the movie as a comedy first, and I got what I wanted, which was seeing Deadpool take the piss out of the MCU. Basically, if the movie presented something (DP murdering the TVA with Logan's corpse being chief among them), and I ask myself, "is this something DP would do?" and the answer is Yes, then I have a hard time being mad.
I very much feel this film was rushed before disney changed their mind on making it.
I agree that DaW is the weakest part of trilogy, I am just not offended by this film like Mauler and Fringy - It's "ok movie, cameos were fun, will not talk about it week after"
Yeah, it's like ... I understand and acknowledge every point but at the same I can't control whether or not I enjoyed something.
I watched it twice in the same day and its not all that.
The movie is just No way home part 2
Fanservice: The Movie
The plot is garbage only because it boiled down to (destroying timelines) which literally means nothing now and the villain was weak because her motivations make no sense.
They're sent to the void, to go to the base then to escape, to roadtrip, to go right back to the same fucking base, to some town and thats it.
The set pieces were dry as fuck.
Logan somehow gets through to baldy to let them go buuuut now she wants to make the void the only frontier left, multiversal genocide
We dont even get to see what happened to her in the past. We're told.
The best thing about it is Wolverine. And Deadpool is alot more serious at times in this movie.
The movie is actually pretty critical of Deadpool through Wolverine and it works but the film itself was just a hack pander piece.
Using Logans corpse as like that was beyond disrespectful.
Now when you watch the Logan film again, just know- THATS what happens to his remains years later.
MCU comes and literally beats a dead horse.
Wish X-23 was in the film more, and had more of a bigger role helping Wolverine heal emotionally like Logan was present for her in their journey in the previous movie- a poetic role reversal, but she's helping to heal his jard exterior
Not some rushed campfire scene where he spills his guts to a kid he doesn't even know
And Mauler is right, if you had to praise the film, that campfire scene is it. Thats a good scene but it feels like it was payoff to build up and development we never got to see between these two
Now if Laura was there alittle earlier and they had more time together not only would everyone want to see that, but it'd make his change of heart make more goddamn sense
Because now he has an actual dynamic with this young lady
Maybe even set up her getting her own suit.
just wasted potential, all the effort went into "REMEMBER THEM!?"
Nostalgia-Bombs over storytelling
Sloppy
Props and much respect for you guys for calling it what it was. Got a new sub from me.