This Aura & Ring Changes Necromancy! - New BEST In Slot?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Testing The Equilibrium Aura & Occultist's Ring!
These in combination ACTUALLY are? Better than Mahjarat and Reaver Ring?
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4 minutes and 67 seconds… wut
😂😂
must be that cursed imperial measurement system or something.
Interesting way to say it was slower.
I was just now coming to question this... I mean brug... 4 minutes and 67 seconds is another way of saying 5 minutes and 7 seconds with is longer than the mahj aura & grim 😝
FYI this was at 6:20
When you add onscreen the zammy grim avg time the occultist time is changed to 4:67 = 5:07
lmao ffs thank you for correction
LOL when i saw that part i was like wtf is 4:67?
Yeah.. I was mid writing my comment and saw this 😂😂😂
You could probably shake up your perks too. Swap Biting out for something different.
Its crazy that when you go to buy the Aura it still says its old effect of lowering your max hit but raising your minimum hit.
i saw this and was extremely confused
equilibrium:
+12% ability damage, no crits
+frees up pocket slot
+occultists/soul ring have their passives and don't lower hit chance. also allows for ring of death in learning scenarios
-takes up aura slot (no invigorate)
-biting perk is useless
mahjarrat:
+5% from aura, +17.9% average damage from crits (10% base crit chance, 5% from reavers ring, 8.8% from biting 4 on a lvl 20 armour, 12% from grim)
-uses pocket slot
-uses aura slot (no invigorate)
invigorate:
+10% extra adrenaline with every death skulls or living death allows different rotations
+17.9% average extra damage from crits
-uses pocket slot
I'd say equilibrium is good until you have biting 4. either way use invigorate in places where invigorating rotations make a difference
@@MaeveK on paper crit looks better but after swapping to equilibrium plus occultist ring I was getting zam 500% kills 30 seconds faster and reset most other best times. That was compared to my biting 4 with majj aura and crit ring (reavers?) can’t remember its name off top. Nice thing is ful book stacks great with equilibrium aura and costs a ton less than grim pages upkeep
Ayoooo this sounds like something worth trying out. I love when old stuff become relevant with new updates!👏
Gonna def try this out, thanks for the testing! Also small correction, Equilibrium has only had the current effect since March of this year, so while it has been around before, the 12% damage is new, it used to just lower your max hit and raise you min hit, but this effect is waaay better!
For ironmen without access to grim it's especially good. And don't forget the fact that you can replace biting 4 with a defensive perk. For ironmen in particular it can save a big grind for nox components. I use it for afk nm kerepac on the iron for jas pages. As you soul split there you don't even want devoted so you can throw on lucky 6 as well for even more damage reduction
For sure gonna try this combo out tomorrow! Lets see how it does on Seiryu on the crystals.
Thanks! also, what familiar did you use for the zammy eq + occultist ring?
Have been using this aura for a little while now, and I've gotta say it's amazing - Works beautifully with Jas book too, since Jas stores part of your damage, it's much more consistent to hit the 30k cap on procs - Such a good aura for when you don't have access to all the crit buffs
So just out of curiosity, do you still focus on the same thing, living death skull rotations?
If they combine this ring with zorgoth's as an upgrade it would be amazing with that aura.
Thanks. I have been wondering whether to get this ring and i also have enough for the aura so i might just invest
This is a great video, but are you able to provide what equipment you used/wielded and what you had in your inventory please 😄
messing with this at the moment too, still cant decide what to have instead of biting. (I still have my Crit Set) but had spares from raisal log grind so figured would gear a new set)
Hey init, looks like they stealth nerfed this. Equilibrium aura had been changed, it no longer flat boosts ability damage 13%. Now it reduces max hit by 25% and raises minimum by 25% so you always hit in the middle of damage rng. But it allows crits. It basically shoves your bell curve of damage smack in the middle. Which I imagine will fall below someone ignoring this and doing a high crit build and using slots to crit instead of ability damage items forced to the middle
Hey, do you have a source for this by chance? D: or a link to when it changed? If so plz chuck me a message on discord?
All tooltips in the game and on wiki still show the same as before so I would be super interested in this!
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I just purchased this today. The loyalty shop does show the tool tip mentioned above reducing max hit by 25% and raising minimum hit by 25%. The in-game tool tip however still shows the "12% increased damage but prevents critically striking" tool tip. Kind of confusing, hoping it didn't take a hit as I liked the idea of this method.
@@JahShoeWah you’re right, old shop tooltip
Tried it from the last video and love it....Thank Init
I wish jagex would drop dragging their heels and just make solak enrage-able like zamorak.
Current solak = 100%, remove final phrase and scale down for 0-99% and just scale the loot like zamorak. It's not hard and maybe grimore pages wouldn't be as expensive if more people get into solak. Makes the entire boss more engaging to more players
So the damage is the same ? Is there any difference in survivability (healing). Otherwise it seems like a low budget variant, which is also good (I dont have money and not enough kills for mahj aura :P)
Healing is slightly more but it isn't gonna be game changing. But not using grim is so damn nice haha
Id also like to add that with the equilbrium other than consistancy in kills its much cheaper than using grimiore
WHATS YOUR DAMAGE PER MINUTE DPM ON ZAMORAK USING NECRO FULL MANUEL??
I don't even have maj so i guess i should be using equilibrium and occ ring then. Normally i just use vamp if im using necro lol.
Wen vs jas book. Which should I use more? Which is better to or is there certain scenarios where each book is used in different bossing
So I think the rs guy said if you do more than 180k DPM then jas is better and 180k dpm is very easy to do. Also wen book isn't all that good at bosses that move. Wen might be good at places like ed1 on the trash mods cuz it can hit multiple enemies.
@@maximumeffort6049 Wen also gets better when enemies are poisonable - not sure if that's in the calculations you mention
Single or mobile boss you can consistently get loads of damage in at? Jas
Stationary boss and/or mobs to wade through? Wen.
How I decide :P Wen is great for Zuk, frex, as the mobs melt, and Zuk only moves when you do
you made a mistake with the zammy kill time, at the second slide where you comapre times you wrote EQ aura time as 4:67 instead of 4:57 like in the previous slide
how can you get a time of 4:67 theres only 60 seconds in a minuet lol
How does this ring compare to Zorgoths soul ring?
I didn't test it with the EQ aura but I would assume the new one is better. Maybe give it a go! : )
hows this vs Zorgoth's ring ?
1:46 I assume you meant to say Dark Magic ^^;
2:32 I think CD starts "x hours after intented end, even if extended" aka: If 4 hours all go, it will be 4 hours, if 4 hours start, then log off total of 4 hrs, then it should be ready, in my experience.
I wonder, if EQ, Occ Ring, EGWD books and BReaver is better than Mah/Dark, Reaver Ring, Grim and Kalger, then is Biting Perk worth switching for a defensive or some other perk?
Auras start going on cooldown as soon as you activate it. So if its a 4hr cd, but a 1 hour aura, you only have to wait 3 hours once it ends. But yeah if you log off, that cd timer keeps going, meaning you could log off for 4 hours come back, use the rest of your aura then activate it again.
For the dark magic bit, I meant to say mahjarat and revers ring lol oops.
@@InitYeah auras go on cd after they're intended to end, as an example i was just using extended resourceful (1hr regularly and i extended to 2hrs) it has a 3hr cooldown. After I finished my 2hr resourceful aura it still had 3 hours of cooldown left. If i had logged out for 2.5 hours and then used the 2 hour aura, it would have had 30mins cooldown left.
I find the equulibrium aura to be better for melee too as you reach hitcaps without using crits so the eq aura is less dependent on licky crits and much more consistent and more damage unless you get very lucky on the crit side
I do 500% melee zamorak 2x easier and 30 secs faster with eq aura than a crit setup and alot less food as it opens for a defensive perk over biting and vamp aura over grim. Or ful book just for overkill on dmg and hitcapping on everything
I've been testing this for a day and wow! Doing more damage than with grim and saving tons of money
How is this with the other ring?
Personally I'd assume that the other ring is better, because getting necrosis at the wrong time might make your rotation a bit less efficient (like getting only 2 stacks from your touch of death because the ring put you at 10/12).
The simplest way to test is to just compare a 3 stack volley of souls average damage to a finger of deaths average damage, as both would then be a 0 cost ability you got for free after 3 procs of their respective ring (I'd check now but I'm out and about on mobile).
Also with rasial lantern you can have 5 stacks of souls, which just means you're less likely to hit the cap of the resource, which means again more value (especially if you're building these stacks for free during your usual living death rotation)
Tried the ring and equilibrium. Last an extra 15 seconds when facing off the wife
😂
seconds difference but decent sized cost difference especially over decent durations
I tried Equilibrium aura on Telos 2449 and the truth is I was quite surprised, the kills came out the same or only 5 seconds slower than using Reaver, Kalg, Mahjarrat, Grimo.
I would use the equelibrium aura but i basicly cant, i have to use supreme invig otherwise i cant get my third death skulls off within living death. The only option would be to get the relic but thats just to much work for me.😢
Grind the relic once you get the qualifications out of the way arch is so much faster just farm the best artifacts for you level and you’ll get there eventually
What about grim and invig aura?
Does it buff summons, too?
Rippers?
It only affects stuff that's damage is based on ability damage, so it won't buff familiars.
@@RockBandRS Thanks
Wait... Same time WITHOUT grimoire? I am sold.
Buying this thing now.
man i get those 1: 25 kill time with maj aura + jas book and using a hellhound not reaver ( cheap kills longer time)
So what would the best familiar be to use ? Ripper ?
By the looks of it, the Kal'gerion demon.
@@BarrySuridge but doesn’t that just give crit chance ? But the aura takes crits away no?
Yeah they really really need to add other ways to get aura's already, considering the fact that you can pull out your wallet for almost any item in game apart from untradeables is pretty damn stupid and a huge waste of potential money for gagex...
6:27, kinda looks the same to me boss 😂
oops lol
Which is funny because a few seconds before it shows 4:57 😂
Might shuffle the perk meta slightly. I believe enhanced devoted-devoted combo becomes relevant, unless you want to stack multiple slayer perks for QoL. There really arent other offensive perks to add replacing biting.
I thought people mostly used inspiration aura over the mahj aura so that they could get three death skulls within a single Ult. Is this not longer the meta?
You can still get 3 death skulls in Living Death without Inspiration or Supreme Invigorating, the timing is just ridiculously tight to do so, and you (afaik) need to have Adrenaline Renewals for it to work (you MUST use LD & Renewal on the same tick)
Yeah once you have Adren renewals you already can do this without an aura giving you help in the Adren side.
I had a stroke seeing 4:67😂
Didn't have equilibrium aura but I do have 2.3m loyalty points
6:22 How many seconds in a minute?
This 😂😂
Haha typooooo : (
@@InitYeah It was correct in the previous slide, but the change caught my eye, so I had to.
Equilibrium and Scripture of Ful would have been better than using the Jas book like you did on your stream. Still wouldnt probably surpass the crit method as BIS but it'd have been way quicker for Raksha especially in your testing
At 6:20 your Zammy Killtime with EQ Aura & Occultist Ring went from 4:57 to 4:67!
this man is getting such good killtimes with the aura that it breaks time itself
@@NexGenration99 If everyone else follows in suit, who knows what chaos would ensue!
XD typos will haunt me forever
6:30 hold up a second so you got 4:67? you mean 5:07? or 4:57 and messed up editing?
the time thats added is amazing and cheap ❤
personally i use supreme invigorate aura with necro, i average around 1:15 at rasial, the extra adren just gives a ton of breathing room in LD rotation
Yeah Jas book and invigorate is king at rasial, when he said he’s using a grim at rasial I knew his kill times would be slower, but then again equilibrium with zuk book doesn’t sound bad
@@Im_Derks hmm actually didnt think about equilibrium with zuk book 🤔
Only problem with the ring is that my rotation is so set i wouldn't know when to spend the extra necrosis stacks, especially with having less room for non adren builders in LD rotation without invigorate aura
Isn't reavers ring + invigorating aura bettwer than this combo?
Loyalty points are also rewarded when buying prem member
so at this point its completely pay to win since you dont get loyalty points from redeeming bonds for membership
Typo at 6:23 lol oops my bad!
In my Opinion this is the best video you’ve made in a while. It’s not often I can actually learn much from a pvm video
4:67 = 5min 07 seconds
which is slower compared to
5min 04 seconds.
🤓 It was clearly a typo. It says 4:57 first until the second time comes.
Im pretty sure aura cooldown does not start until the active aura expires
It definitely starts on activation. Now that auras don't expire when logged out it's easier to tell. If you log out with 2 minutes left and come back 24hrs later there will still be 2 minutes left but you'll be able to activate it again without a reset once that 2 minutes is up. It'll be off cooldown even though the aura has been active the entire time.
@melissagrenier2200 it doesn't start on activation. It's that when you log out it starts. If you stayed online it won't start counting until the aura expired.
6:29 seconds in your text reads 4:67 average kill time instead of 4:57 that you said aloud, fyi
the pros of watching innit yeah's vids till the end ! I didnt know the tip about DS crit mechanic! thank you !
if the aura increases book damage, i think bis book would be Wen... worth the testing!! :D
and as i mentioned during the livestream, without crits, what perk (instead of biting) woud be bis for this combo?
Deffo more testing to be done on books and perks, I will likely do this as I plan to use the aura more now :)
But I have no idea as of right now which perks would replace biting!
@@InitYeahI replaced biting with absorbative for now while experimenting. If the bosses attack rate is high, you can replace it with enhanced devoted and stack it with devoted.
There's not a lot of offensive armor perks that don't already get utilized, so dropping biting kind of lends towards a defensive perk replacing it.
I'm sure if/when more people give Equilibrium a chance that those smarter than me will find a new BiS perk setup for necro. Or if we ever get an equilibrium perk back from the combat beta, then that'll likely be the biting replacement one would assume.
Thanks for giving this a test, and I look forward to the theory crafting for this
Equilibrium aura decrease max damage by 25% now
That is the old effect. It got changed to 12% increased damage but no crit (New effect).
Solomon store text just hasn't been updated
Ohhhhh ok thx
So basically it doesn't matter too much in terms of DPS, but equilibruim has slightly more over longer fights as opposed to mahjarrat over shorter fights.
I do wonder how much Invoke Lord of Bones affects these times. I would assume it's more effective on equilibrium.
Which is true, given that it's much cheaper per hour to run and has a much shorter CD, would make it "better" in many cases.
@@zerolosi I agree. The only benefit to Mahjarat + Grim would be setting record times.
Price of the ring sure didnt age well. Can’t even buy it for 17m now…
They changed it
is there even 67 seconds in a minuet lol so this would have been 5:07 seconds?.
Just a typo haha oops
awesome for an ironman without grim
mah + ful book = rasi AVEVRAGE 1.07
Aura reset = 2k points
1k points per hour = 2 k points per aura usage
So using aura resets makes it even more. Free to have permanent up
Great point
I have over 13 million Loyalty Points, so... 😅
No one uses grimoir at rasial the fuck average killtime with mahjarat and zerk ring is 1:06to 1:13 that new ring is shit
You are comparing other players average times with mine though.
You can't take yours or pvme's times for example then go WELL I GET 1:06 ON MAHJ AND ZERK AND THAT IS BETTER THAN INITS EQ AURA. Because you are also getting better times with me on mahj and zerk.. lol.
You would have to go test it yourself to get numbers for yourself.
waaw how did they fuck this up sao hard agian. Jagex cant fix combat. Now you need an aura no one ever used to do best damige with necro. Auras that are locked behind member time.... Cmon man. Do you want more player or less?
You always needed an aura to do best damage with any combat style but you don't need a combat aura to do anything. If you want to min-max then yea but you don't have to... maj aura kill times are basically within margin of error and you can buy that aura with gp.
@@maximumeffort6049 Good thing bonds are cheap and you only need 3 bonds to buy mahjarrat :/:/:/:/:/. And then there is the choise to reaper it for 1k points or to just MTX bond it. If its with mtx then you can buy it with "GP". Thats a fucked up system too. Even worse then loyalty points. Why cant I just buy a good combat aura for necro from War's Retreat? This is what happens when you rush a new combat style in the game. Like dint they just released a mid boss lvl for necro? Like 7 months after the release of necro? At least tehy tryed to push nt before the sale... Now look at the state of the game. Its never been in a worse position then it is now. Bit hey if you think the game is healthy then I respect that. But I cant ignore the facts of all the chitt i saw in this game in the past 20 years. This is the worst I have seen the game. And I will call it out. Bc there is a reason why I played this game for 20 years. I hate to watch it burn like this.
@@maximumeffort6049 Maja is 3 bonds dude.Or shuld I just MTX the bods? Its even worsese then the loyalty point system. At least you can buy it for 1k reaper points... Its also a bad system. Whay cant I buy a good necro aura from wars? Like why did a mid necro boss came out 7 moths after necro? They rushed it and it shows in player base. I can go on for a long time like this.... In the 20 years I played this game I never seen this game so broken. Even EOC was in a better state then the game is now. If you dont think so its fine. But dont come to me with that kind of excuus. BC all combat aura shuld be in wars. Just like all skilling auras shuld be at fort forinthry to buy. You can argue that combat dus better bc of wars and for skilling your kinde F. Must be fun to be a new player and to take years to get a lot of important auras.
@@maximumeffort6049 Maja is 3 bonds dude. Or shuld I just MTX the bods? Its even worsese then the loyalty point system. At least you can buy it for 1k reaper points... Its also a bad system. Whay cant I buy a good necro aura from wars? Like why did a mid necro boss came out 7 moths after necro? They rushed it and it shows in player base. I can go on for a long time like this.... In the 20 years I played this game I never seen this game so broken. Even EOC was in a better state then the game is now. If you dont think so its fine. But dont come to me with that kind of excuus. BC all combat aura shuld be in wars. Just like all skilling auras shuld be at fort forinthry to buy. You can argue that combat dus better bc of wars and for skilling your kinde have to wait for years to get them. Must be fun to be a new player and to take years to get a lot of important auras.
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