note : when using kerapac gloves, and a target is walkable, walk it on combust cast and dragonbreath AFTER combust. to get both damage buffs. don't dbreath before it as u lose walk damage
@@InitYeah so much hype for Necro to come along and just poop on every other style with just one conjure lmao. Well I think it might be an armoured phantom, although I really much prefer a dragon.
Yeah when i found out it can reset the weapon spec itself too, i went wild. 5 weapons specs back to back i ripped through that last boss so fast i got killed because i was way ahead of the fight than i anticipated.
@InitYeah ahh ok I have one from a drop for doing duos. I'm not sure if I should sell or upgrade my T95 necro gear... hope to see a guide on the overall benefits to see if the upgrade is worth it.
I love the t95's but I would like a set effect for power armor + t100 weapons slap, staff is actually good when using spec as long as you use gconc a ton.
It'sIt's not better there's no punishment for error, it caters to people who can't spend 5-10mins to learn a combat style or boss and more than likely will never have a zuk cape because they need easyscape to pvm lol. 😂
One more interesting thing: without an FSOA, it honestly looks viable to make a poison build out of these weapons At bosses like Kera you can actually use vampy aura, blood reaver, cinderbanes, weapon poison, kwuarm sticks and just pray soulsplit I barely did any testing but it would be cool to see someone hybrid bik arrows with this setup into higher enrage glacor for instance You should definitely check it out Init
Not to mention the spec can crit itself which just functions well with fsoa spec anyhow. Been loving playing with it. Also it's gchain weapon spec bleed damage is full damage which is nuts for hm zuk
only the first hit of the spec can crit and the rest of the hits dont even scale with sunshine or crit. zero synergy with fsoa they need to add another passive to make the bleeds able to crit for it to make sense
@@aaronw-arrior9974 I understand the damage is very strong and its still worth using my point is just that it doesnt make sense to add weapons that enhance bleeds for the combat style that is entirely based around a crit build. Even if u argue the spec synergizes with fsoa u cannot argue the same for the passive as using bleeds/abilities that cant crit during ur fsoa rotation is a dps loss which means u cant really start building many stacks until after sunshine is over. I think they need to add a set effect that allows bleeds to crit that way people can start building stacks right away. It would bring range closer to the same power tier as melee/range and make the weapons more fun to use
@MaxxCombat you only need 1 bleed during fsoa. Which is the spec. Keeping 100 stacks is a big dps boost with or without fsoa. It's not that you spam bleeds but ye if that spec resets it pops. Also they're adding an effect to tec. But honestly I just pre build on dummies before I go. 30 seconds is a long time to get to the boss. I agree it's a but wierd atm but yeah it feels good and still let's me 4taa as I please. Nothing lost. Lot gained. Plus the 3% extra adren per basic to spam more specs. Just too good
might try to pick these up and try it, honestly I just wish you can staff camp FSOA; sucks to see a tier 95 weapon reduced to just a spec weapon when its so hard to get and cost so much.
I don’t think 4taa is completely dead but it’ll just be way less of an increase Before gconc it was ~7% increased dpm in a rotation vacuum Post gconc it went down to ~3% increase since u prioritized gconc spam I think it’ll go down to ~1-2% with prioritizing abilities with dw So instead of gconc > dw abil > 2h auto > 2h ability > gconc It’ll be gconc > dw abil > 2h auto > **dw ability** > gconc The ticks you “lose” from the 2h autos will have even more diminishing returns with these new dw stacks but the sweats prob won’t stop 4taa
@@invictuous9222 nah fam you still 4taa inside and outside sun if you want, it’ll still be better than not, but not by much anymore, is my guess! The extra adren can be clutch tho which I’m not factoring in as I’m sure you know
Honestly, I don't like how much rng is involved with these weapons. One of the reasons for the combat rework was to make damage more consistent. Now we have mage weapons where damage is rng dependent. Unless you get lucky with bleed resets on the weapon spec, magic still lags behind significantly.
I noticed that you don't smoke cloud the boss and you still use abs spec in your fsoa. Is this optimal? Are you purposefully diminishing damage output to phase the boss later to do as many mechanics as possible? Haven't tried the boss yet curious about rationale behind your combat approach.
If I didn't smoke cloud it was just a miss click or timing / I forgot to re apply it haha. ABS is still fine to use during fsoa spec, especially with the bonus adren we gain from the new duelwields :) - Just use it when you have maxed adren.
I'll stick to necro. It's consistent and has nice passive healing. If mage had it without soul split being needed, I'd play mage more. Also the 4th minion will probably be a damage reduction minion.. so, gonna get even better lol
I got these 2nd day and told someone at wars theyre amazing and he argued with me for 10 minutes how theyre trash when i just hit a dummy for 40k 3 times in a row
All other styles have too many basics so to me, and I'm sure the majority of the community, they're dead. Already have enough keybinds. Don't need 7 that all BASICally do the same thing
@@callmecreamy391As someone who has plenty of HM Zuk kills with no food, I can assure you that it just comes down to practice. I suck at a lot of PVM but I practiced 3 hours a day for weeks until I got a hard mode kill, then eventually my cape and now do no food consistently, capes don't make the difference consistent practice does
I really don't like their style choices. There's some odd Egyptian influences. I had the same thought with the T95 bow. The T92 bow looked much better, and everyone I asked agreed with my opinion on this one. It has a bit of an elvish style. With the T95, they chose to go with the oposite of the regular "fantasy" style, and went with a bit of a dwarven style. I'm all for originality. However I wonder who looks at the T95 bow and wand and says "Wow, these look amazing".
Worth if its almost 6k bleed for 40sec per 2-3sec? thats 75k free dps for 50% adren...? havent seen that much dmg from 50% adren by ONLY special hit or even thresholds with non buffs such as adren reduce costs etc, but dw itll be nerfed within the month.... typical jagex. teases us with OP stuff on release and realizing they done a mistake and OP'ed the item bit too much KEK. Great vid tho.
All styles seem to be on par with each other for the most part. I still see a lot of necro users, but I'm happy that I can keep up with them with range and now magic.
@@ronzerker390 I don't know about on par, slightly healthier sure, but it still seems that necro stands above all. Think there's plenty of work to be done to even out the combat styles.
@@simplylethul Dunno about whining, would just be nice to see a change. I don't even play RuneScape anymore, but still care about RS3 and would like to see it succeed. Clearly they've done a lot wrong to be where they are today.
These are more than viable for the price bracket that they are in already I found them pretty much on par with vestments + scourge + all melee abilities, but like the vid says: a bit more RNG so sometimes you do more dmg than melee but sometimes you do less These are a lot easier to use though
They are viable without it, but you need a few things to make magic compete with bis other styles. Best in slot tends to include everything though. For example, for bolg to compete with other styles, you likely want an eof with ecb spec :)
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Thank you brother! Been searching all over yt for a video like this!!!! Youre the best homie
Finally a video about the new magic weapons
Same bro I've been waiting myself. Did you buy the new set and if so, how much? I got mine at 1.1b which surprised me
@@ronzerker390 im just gonna farm it since drop rate doesnt seem too bad
@@ronzerker390 1.1b is insane even on release lol. Bought mine for 485m for both and that's the next day.
@callmecreamy391 I'm one of those gp hoards, so I had extra to spend 🤣. I can always make gp back even through skilling now.
@@ronzerker390 lol bought both for under 250m
How do these weapons interact with Kera wraps? Does it increase the stack damage or does it have to be an actual DOT
Kera wrist wears and enchantment of fire work
It takes some getting used to because you'll see combust instantly fire off all its hits but the ability didn't reset its cooldown
Im still trying to learn the spec but im no pvm pro, glad I was able to join you at kerapac!
note : when using kerapac gloves, and a target is walkable, walk it on combust cast and dragonbreath AFTER combust. to get both damage buffs. don't dbreath before it as u lose walk damage
I think you should gain the adren effect at 25 stacks and the damage boost at 50 stacks. Would make more sense imo.
Glad you made this video I've been wondering how magic is after these weapons were added. Super excited to get them and use them
No no, magic isn't back
the original INNIT YEAH IS BACK❤
Wait until the 4th conjure comes out, Necro is going to be broken again lol
True, wonder what it will be..
@@InitYeah so much hype for Necro to come along and just poop on every other style with just one conjure lmao. Well I think it might be an armoured phantom, although I really much prefer a dragon.
I bet gonna be a hellhound type of conjure something that help tanking @@InitYeah
people are botting new bosses already......
Necro has been such a terrible addition to the game...
Yeah when i found out it can reset the weapon spec itself too, i went wild. 5 weapons specs back to back i ripped through that last boss so fast i got killed because i was way ahead of the fight than i anticipated.
Gonna wait for them to be 100m before i buy 😄
I just sold all my melee gear (least favorite combat style) and my t92 dw magic to buy these after watching your video. Very excited to try it out.
Do you put lunging on the dw set or just the usual perks?
Wonder what the shard will do I believe its ment to increase T95s to T100s?? Something I'd like to see what benefits it will have
I believe it is about a 3.5-4% dps increase. Don't quote the numbers exactly though haha
@InitYeah ahh ok I have one from a drop for doing duos. I'm not sure if I should sell or upgrade my T95 necro gear... hope to see a guide on the overall benefits to see if the upgrade is worth it.
I got 99 magic back when EoC came out and haven't used sense might try grind for these new weapons
I love the t95's but I would like a set effect for power armor + t100 weapons slap, staff is actually good when using spec as long as you use gconc a ton.
I still think Necro is better, and a lot less effort but if/once they change how bleeds work with sunshine, i think it will be best.
It'sIt's not better there's no punishment for error, it caters to people who can't spend 5-10mins to learn a combat style or boss and more than likely will never have a zuk cape because they need easyscape to pvm lol. 😂
Kerapac gloves and wrack and ruin could synergise well with the new dual , no?
I picked them up and am loving them
4tick is not more usable?
One more interesting thing: without an FSOA, it honestly looks viable to make a poison build out of these weapons
At bosses like Kera you can actually use vampy aura, blood reaver, cinderbanes, weapon poison, kwuarm sticks and just pray soulsplit
I barely did any testing but it would be cool to see someone hybrid bik arrows with this setup into higher enrage glacor for instance
You should definitely check it out Init
Thanks for the idea : ) will take a look!
Not to mention the spec can crit itself which just functions well with fsoa spec anyhow. Been loving playing with it.
Also it's gchain weapon spec bleed damage is full damage which is nuts for hm zuk
only the first hit of the spec can crit and the rest of the hits dont even scale with sunshine or crit. zero synergy with fsoa they need to add another passive to make the bleeds able to crit for it to make sense
@MaxxCombat it's synergy is keeping a bleed going and it's stronger than Iban
It's still beast inside sun
@@aaronw-arrior9974 I understand the damage is very strong and its still worth using my point is just that it doesnt make sense to add weapons that enhance bleeds for the combat style that is entirely based around a crit build. Even if u argue the spec synergizes with fsoa u cannot argue the same for the passive as using bleeds/abilities that cant crit during ur fsoa rotation is a dps loss which means u cant really start building many stacks until after sunshine is over. I think they need to add a set effect that allows bleeds to crit that way people can start building stacks right away. It would bring range closer to the same power tier as melee/range and make the weapons more fun to use
@MaxxCombat you only need 1 bleed during fsoa. Which is the spec. Keeping 100 stacks is a big dps boost with or without fsoa. It's not that you spam bleeds but ye if that spec resets it pops.
Also they're adding an effect to tec.
But honestly I just pre build on dummies before I go. 30 seconds is a long time to get to the boss.
I agree it's a but wierd atm but yeah it feels good and still let's me 4taa as I please. Nothing lost. Lot gained. Plus the 3% extra adren per basic to spam more specs. Just too good
might try to pick these up and try it, honestly I just wish you can staff camp FSOA; sucks to see a tier 95 weapon reduced to just a spec weapon when its so hard to get and cost so much.
I don’t think 4taa is completely dead but it’ll just be way less of an increase
Before gconc it was ~7% increased dpm in a rotation vacuum
Post gconc it went down to ~3% increase since u prioritized gconc spam
I think it’ll go down to ~1-2% with prioritizing abilities with dw
So instead of gconc > dw abil > 2h auto > 2h ability > gconc
It’ll be gconc > dw abil > 2h auto > **dw ability** > gconc
The ticks you “lose” from the 2h autos will have even more diminishing returns with these new dw stacks but the sweats prob won’t stop 4taa
You're incorrect
@@alwayslost637 damn bro you just blew my mind
Does this mean my invigorating perks are useless now?
@@invictuous9222 nah fam you still 4taa inside and outside sun if you want, it’ll still be better than not, but not by much anymore, is my guess!
The extra adren can be clutch tho which I’m not factoring in as I’m sure you know
So what does this look like with t100s?
I will unlock them and do a quick video on the changes if I think it is worth mentioning :)
5% more DMG
Wondering how much of an effect the Shard of Genesis Essence will have on our t95 weapons like the new mage DW. and t95 Necro weapons.
Honestly, I don't like how much rng is involved with these weapons. One of the reasons for the combat rework was to make damage more consistent. Now we have mage weapons where damage is rng dependent. Unless you get lucky with bleed resets on the weapon spec, magic still lags behind significantly.
gosh i wish they give another chance at lava tsunami...
I noticed that you don't smoke cloud the boss and you still use abs spec in your fsoa. Is this optimal? Are you purposefully diminishing damage output to phase the boss later to do as many mechanics as possible? Haven't tried the boss yet curious about rationale behind your combat approach.
If I didn't smoke cloud it was just a miss click or timing / I forgot to re apply it haha. ABS is still fine to use during fsoa spec, especially with the bonus adren we gain from the new duelwields :) - Just use it when you have maxed adren.
Omg finally! I've been wanting to see anyone's review on the weapons. I bought mine as soon as i saw i could buy a set for less than 1.5b
I'll stick to necro. It's consistent and has nice passive healing. If mage had it without soul split being needed, I'd play mage more.
Also the 4th minion will probably be a damage reduction minion.. so, gonna get even better lol
I got these 2nd day and told someone at wars theyre amazing and he argued with me for 10 minutes how theyre trash when i just hit a dummy for 40k 3 times in a row
yeah it feels stronger than omni power, and you can shoot those off one after the other for huge burst damage.
So would it make sense to shove my fsoa into my eof? Im tempted too but would it really be worth it?
You know it would help if i watch the whole video xD
So they're the ultimate RNG wep basically :p
When did magic leave?
Finally someone posted testing of the new weapons. Yeah :D it's none other than init yeah. 😁
All other styles have too many basics so to me, and I'm sure the majority of the community, they're dead. Already have enough keybinds. Don't need 7 that all BASICally do the same thing
revo op
Necro has ruined PVM. You can always tell who's a good at bossing looking at their cape slot
@@callmecreamy391 elitist gatekeeper fun sucker take. And this is coming from someone with the Igneous Kal-Zuk
@@callmecreamy391As someone who has plenty of HM Zuk kills with no food, I can assure you that it just comes down to practice. I suck at a lot of PVM but I practiced 3 hours a day for weeks until I got a hard mode kill, then eventually my cape and now do no food consistently, capes don't make the difference consistent practice does
FINALLY!!
Wanted to do plenty of testing before making the video haha had lots to learn and confirm.
my game constantly crashes nowadays , cant even play :/ good vid tho!
Lets go gambling! *Pics magic*
Do ED1 with the new weaps
What I'm hearing is that the negative is "suffering from success" lol
So early I disappointed my wife
o.o wut
Why does this not have more likes😂😂😂
Hes saying he came too fast lmao
I think the idea is good but using bleeds is just complete anti synergy with mage sadly
I already made my faoa t100. Super camping golems again
I really don't like their style choices. There's some odd Egyptian influences. I had the same thought with the T95 bow. The T92 bow looked much better, and everyone I asked agreed with my opinion on this one. It has a bit of an elvish style. With the T95, they chose to go with the oposite of the regular "fantasy" style, and went with a bit of a dwarven style. I'm all for originality. However I wonder who looks at the T95 bow and wand and says "Wow, these look amazing".
Im pretty disappointed with how theyre making magic combat work. Getting rid of 4taa, and making it rely heavily on RNG with crits and resets...gross
I found this video before i got a notification, must be early
Notifications op
Could have taken 10mins off the video if he just said put your fsoa in your EOF because thats all it is now
bro magic is mad.
Thought streamers would have all these straight away soon as they came out typical
No combat style stays meta (most popular) forever, necromancy’s time will end eventually even if it is not caused by this update.
Worth if its almost 6k bleed for 40sec per 2-3sec? thats 75k free dps for 50% adren...? havent seen that much dmg from 50% adren by ONLY special hit or even thresholds with non buffs such as adren reduce costs etc, but dw itll be nerfed within the month.... typical jagex. teases us with OP stuff on release and realizing they done a mistake and OP'ed the item bit too much KEK. Great vid tho.
Melee is so neglected 😂
Necro ghost is too broken
Everyone is still gonna use tier 100 necromancy over any other style, which is sad.
I MEAN people can do what they want it is all good :) - at least all styles are a decent option now!
All styles seem to be on par with each other for the most part. I still see a lot of necro users, but I'm happy that I can keep up with them with range and now magic.
@@ronzerker390 I don't know about on par, slightly healthier sure, but it still seems that necro stands above all. Think there's plenty of work to be done to even out the combat styles.
Whining because necro is top.😂
@@simplylethul Dunno about whining, would just be nice to see a change. I don't even play RuneScape anymore, but still care about RS3 and would like to see it succeed. Clearly they've done a lot wrong to be where they are today.
So pretty much you need another weapon to make these weapons viable... yeah I guess I'll just wait till they drop more.
These are more than viable for the price bracket that they are in already
I found them pretty much on par with vestments + scourge + all melee abilities, but like the vid says: a bit more RNG so sometimes you do more dmg than melee but sometimes you do less
These are a lot easier to use though
They are viable without it, but you need a few things to make magic compete with bis other styles.
Best in slot tends to include everything though.
For example, for bolg to compete with other styles, you likely want an eof with ecb spec :)
@@InitYeah Would you say these weapons are good for casual players or is Necro still king?
I hate these titles. Magic was never bad. There was just something better.
Magic was absolutely miles behind every other combat style for a while there. Some would deffo call that bad.
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Nope, Init Yeahs comment is 2 minutes older than yours. 😂
naaaaaaaaab 😂😂😂😂😂😂
-1 dud fix ur mic nab 😂
What is up with the mic? seems fine to me?
The click bait title! It’s still the worst style!