I watched this video quite a while ago. I was inspired and ordered the refractory to build it. Life happened and now I am finally ready to build my own. I didn’t remember all the steps and so glad I was able to find this original video again. Thanks for your help and inspiration!!,
Funny this video popped up in my feed. I have spent the whole week running my ribbon burner you helped me create, and every time I look at it I am reminded of what a good man you are and hope you are healing and ready to get back to the forge.
I noticed you have an open bottle of beer on the bench when you were mixing the refractory mix you should not have alcohol in the work shop with out a cooler or the beer could get hot and I didn’t see any empty’s and mixing refractory is at least a two beer job so make sure you get on top of that next time
Great vid I intend to do this Thank you. Remember 95 percent of all ER visits start with. Hey yall watch this. So Remember. Safety starts wi--ummm no thats not it Ohhh yeah. Remember. Only you can preven ahh Crap!!!. Remember. Hydrate cause Beer wont drink itself and Add salt for extra leg cramp relief. Ahh Screw it close enough
In three days, I went from having a completely constructed venturi burner to forced burners to this magnificent beast of a burner. Good job sir. You will be shared plenty
For everyone continuing to ask. Yes I know “you can just melt the crayons out” I have done it that way before. I prefer drilling because I find it to be faster and makes less of a mess. Do whichever works for you.
Your drilling out the crayon and saying what drill bit size you used saved my burner build. Thank you. I made one using straws and the holes were too small. I drilled them out and the flame stayed stable when I closed the glass furnace doors.
solvarr yeah I tried once with straws that were 1/4 inch instead of 5/16 and the burner didn’t want to run right. There’s some formula about total area of the holes vs the area of the inlet pipe but I’ve never went by it. 5/16 holes have always worked fine so I’ve never strayed from it
The crayon eating comment killed me. I love your videos. I’m hoping to get into blade smithing before too long and Your videos helping me get a decent understanding of everything. Thank you! Great job!
During my Army aviation days I took a hit and somehow ended up in a naval high trauma hospital, I was the only soldier there and my roommate was a marine. When he wasn't eating Crayons and abusing his meds he would play a mouth turkey call day and night. I was able to avoid PTSD, but that Marine was a PITA. PS< in all seriousness, appreciate you making this video.
Fast food drinking straws work really well too and they pull out nice and easy with a pair of needle nose pliers, leaving a glass smooth tunnel through the Mizzou castable. Also, I put mine on top of the wood stove for about 7 or 8 days which means they went through dozens of say, 200 to 500+ degree heat cycles before I actually fired them. Good simple video. Thanks for posting- this info was a lot harder to find 2 years ago!
You will love this one Mat, my wife is a Navy CTM2 Vet and I am a Marine AMH2 (to use your vernacular). We went to high school together before our time in the service. To this day, 40 plus years later she tells me I cannot count past one. I attempted to get even. When we were married I had the vows changed to say to place the ring on her third finger. I said that I cannot do that. When he asked my why I said "because I cannot count that high". My smart little sailor said "no problem, and counted her fingers, one, one, one". She has always had a quick wit.
I was in the Rcaf up here for twenty years. Regularly I was part of the helo maintenance detachment on HMCS ships. Biggest problem was keeping supply techs away from anything shiny and stokers away from any liquids that resembled rum or scotch in colour.
Good idea to get an extra box of snacks. I'm about 136 percent sure the first box wouldn't last long enough to actually make the burner. Also, instead of drilling out the crayola fries, you can melt them out onto your favorite MRE. 🖍😋
Especially good as an additive to the chicken-a-la-king. Of course that was a meal from the late 80's to early 90's. Let me hear my Dessert Shield/Storm soldiers represent! Dehydrated pork patty needed a sauce after reconstitution too.
I built mine today got 19 holes and instead of cayons I use the less mess and easier plastic straws did find the 3/4" as good advice, and 2"X 4" handy. I oiled the straws before installing and lightly spray.I was told to space holes 11/4 center so they have 1" space apart With your help I fill it will be fine , .had no wax to drill your waxy crarons. John thanks for showing and teaching..
I peel the crayons before I set them in the mold and the only other thing I do differently is I melt the crayons out in the first of three heat cycles Well and I use thinner side wall 3” pipe ,oh and I just drill the holes directly on top of the tube before I weld the 2” nipple to it (no bent plate to weld in doing it like that) Great tutorial dude
Old school, love it. Great build also for future reference the refractory should be treated as cement kept sealed and given as long to dry as possible. Do not speed dry on vent. It will last much longer. Again though awesome build.
I’m slowly making a gas forge because coal is getting more expensive and harder to find and it would be nice to run a cleaner fuel. And then I won’t get quite as dirty when I’m working. And propane is fairly cheap and easy to get I’m going to make a ribbon burner like how you made yours. I’m going with one that will be more durable and last longer. And I forge a lot so it will save money fast enough in fuel savings and electricity isn’t an issue. I like to make hammers and Damascus so it’s worth it for me. Thanks for the great video!
I'm planning on building a ribbon burner forge and came across your video while researching. Checked out a few of your other videos. I love your no-nonsense approach. Great information without all the fluff or a haughty attitude. I'm now a subscriber. Looking forward to more great content.
Great video John! I'm new to forging and am in the process of building a forge. Was planning on a venturi burner set up but you convinced me ribbon is the way to go.
Dang I'm doing burn chamber research- burner type stuff for a hot water on demand steam powered diy pressure washer- steam- foam gun.... and I've been watching videos for a while about this type of thing.... this was the most correct info I have found in one place. Thank you for taking the time to make this video brother.
Well I was already planning on building a new bigger forge with a ribbon burner. Now I’ve got that little extra drive I needed, thanks John, good instructions as well! Always enjoy your videos
Nice setup there. I'm a welder. If you beveled the square caps you can guarantee the weld holds after you grind the cap off flush like that. I've seen MIG beads pop right out doing what you did. Also, sleeves and glasses...UV radiation will kill slow and painful by melanoma.
I just poured one with KS4V this morning. A lot thicker than your pour, I had to spoon it in and tap with a mallet to get it to settle proper. Going to see how it took in a few days, used plastic straws instead of crayons.
That Marine joke was pretty good. Not sure what it's all about but funny none the less! I did not serve and I appreciate all are armed service men and women! God bless you all!! Keep on ⚒️ ing my friend! That forge is something to think about!!
The joke is that Marines like to eat crayons... It's mostly a joke about Marines not being smart enough to be Army. I'm ex-Navy, so I laughed way harder than I should have. Don't get me wrong, we all have respect for Marines, and all branches have jokes about them (especially Coast Guard and Air Force), but we all do actually respect each other.
@@thedocdodge WE can make jokes about each other and a fight might break out but it is family, if the SP's or MP's show up they aren't family. Civilians, we serve and protect them unlike a bunch of cops but they aren't family either.
@@thedocdodge hey, nothing wrong with the Navy and Air force, Marines and Soldiers need a ride to the fight, respectively. Thanks for the taxi service to all my Airmen friends.
Crayons only taste good when you wash them down with the tears of those who Aren't Ready to be Marines Yet (Army for short). Great tutorial brother, Semper Fi.
When you said "don't eat the crayons" I knew a Marine joke was coming! lol Former soldier here and on a strange turn of events the two Marines I'm closest to are an aerospace engineering major and a computer engineering grad. I guess that's why they didn't stay in.
Very cool. It looks like a fun idea to play with. It would be interesting to try to make a ring-shaped one with the holes on the inside and angled for venturi effect inside a keg furnace.
Nice video, I just finished a ribbon burner build on my channel but I used straws for the holes instead of crayons. Just less of a mess and no need to drill out but it did take me a bit to pull all of them out of the refractory after it set. Anyway just a different way to skin a cat.
Just put the right in the oven,. Lowest heat. Cookie sheet with foil under it. Wax will melt out at under 200 degrees. Residue will burn out easy on the first fire
Nice video. Grunt! Just an FYI. I just drilled a fire brick and put a tight snug fit of a manifold. I posted a video of it. Again. Nice build fellow army guy!
You do know the reason Marines eat the crayons, is to keep the guys in the army that come in afterwards from drawing little flowers and butterflies all over the walls! Lol great video! Semper Fi
I'm in the process if making a small forced air burner (Paul Pinto design). I have been interested in the design that you made so I'm pleased to see it. Thank you. And thank you for your service.
What about using, instead of refractory or fire brick material, strips of flat bar material ( the dimensions of the ribbon burner) sandwiched together with the series of holes drilled through it and welded to the housing. ( only because getting a block of steel to those dimensions could be expensive).Not only would it glow red hot it would probably last for years or would it? That would certainly could be a quick and worth while approach. What do you think?
Here is the concept I meant when I said some people make them from all steel. The plenum would be made as Normal but rather than the front bit being cast refractory you can use a thick steel plate with the same holes drilled. Welded airtight. Again I don’t know how well this holds up long term. Some swear by it. Others dismiss it entirely. I haven’t tried it myself so I couldn’t say
I built a "steel head" round ribbon burner, and it works. Not my design. I copied from Phil at PJT Forging. My build link is ruclips.net/video/6b3RGv6HmGQ/видео.html I have had some issues but not related to the metal overheating. The flame burns at the holes, as it should, nice and blue. I have had over-saturation issues. I have been working to resolve them. I utilized an in-line needle valve just past the shut off valve but before the mixing corners of the piping. I am working on a video depicting my issues and my resolution. I will say that I am also in process with a ribbon burner build like John's. My forge is longer and my current burner head is round. So a rectangular shape should match up better for heating. My current burner head works great! But it is pretty focused in the middle. I am new, so I don't have history on how long it will hold up, etc.
Putting together a forge myself and was wondering if making the holes smaller would create a hotter flame and burn less fuel. I'm thinking 1/4" holes throw more fuel than they can burn and smaller holes would be more efficient, plus hotter if you have a variable speed fan to adjust the stoichometricity of the flames. If that's even a word tricity I mean. Was going to build with a nozzle then this blacksmith down the street showed me an air assisted forge he recently purchased with a drilled round plate and then I see these ribbon burner forges but read where they go through a tank in a couple of sessions. So I wondered if creating smaller holes even cone shaped to possibly add pressure to them would help increase efficiency. Putting the tips of the crayon on the bottom would do what I mean by a cone shape but the actual exit hole would be smaller than the crayon using just the tip to form the orifice. Not sure about the mixer working as is assumed. Possibly welding a angle iron to split the fumes and in the pipe put some sort of swirled to mix the gas and air. But yours works and mine is in my head still so yeah uh....I'm still thinking. Also wondered putting a plate in the middle where you cut out to put refractory in. And capping the ends and sides but not completely allowing the refractory to fill in the area to attach to the head or whatever it's called to force the gasses to the holes and stop some side aerodynamics from slopping up the gas to the holes. I'm thinking side turbulence 🤷 I could be thinking into it too much as well
Just an FYI but if you take the paper off the Crayons instead of having to drill them out since their basic material that they are made out of is wack when you toss it in your oven just tilt it in the wax will melt out therefore you don't have to drill it and have any issues with cracking or anything else like that just an FYI I cork put a pan underneath it that way you don't have wax build-up in your oven
I seem to be missing something. while i understand cutting, drilling, and forming, when the cast material goes up into the steel body of the burner and it far does it go? Does it touch the bent flat metal with all the holes inside the steel body or is there a space and how much space is needed?
Just checking in for the link to the rest of your build! :) Curious how to set up the rest. I’m using my rail heater for high carbon track welding. Looking to upgrade to the ribbon burner this year. :)
I'm just beginning to get into forging and heard you mention a ribbon burner on another one of your videos. I built many burners for BBQ's and smokers and Have a question, do you really need to use the refractory/crayons on the bottom of the burner? Couldn't you just drill the bottom of the steel body and get the same results without the extra?
What is the longest length you could make on one of those burners? Is something like 18 inches long possible? Like say for going into a forge made from a water heater tank?
Great video. I was just wondering what happens if you shut off the air between heats. I could see using this burner with a hand crank blower if you didn't have electricity in you forge. But I can also see gas building up and causing a problem with a possibility of exploding.
Soggy Bottom Forge yeah don’t do that. The gas has to have air constantly pushing it with this type of burner. If you want to cut it off between heats cut the gas and leave the air running
I watched this video quite a while ago. I was inspired and ordered the refractory to build it. Life happened and now I am finally ready to build my own. I didn’t remember all the steps and so glad I was able to find this original video again. Thanks for your help and inspiration!!,
Funny this video popped up in my feed. I have spent the whole week running my ribbon burner you helped me create, and every time I look at it I am reminded of what a good man you are and hope you are healing and ready to get back to the forge.
I noticed you have an open bottle of beer on the bench when you were mixing the refractory mix you should not have alcohol in the work shop with out a cooler or the beer could get hot and I didn’t see any empty’s and mixing refractory is at least a two beer job so make sure you get on top of that next time
I agree. Safety first. The shop is no place for hot beer.
Great vid I intend to do this Thank you. Remember 95 percent of all ER visits start with. Hey yall watch this. So Remember. Safety starts wi--ummm no thats not it Ohhh yeah. Remember. Only you can preven ahh Crap!!!. Remember. Hydrate cause Beer wont drink itself and Add salt for extra leg cramp relief. Ahh Screw it close enough
One of the best comments I've seen in quite a while Sir, cheers to you!
Check out Safety Sally over here 😂
Kudos to you sir.
Well, in Suomi, you can drink beer in sauna! The trick is, you drink it fast, and second "trick", it's about 185°F (85 "real degrees" ;-) )
In three days, I went from having a completely constructed venturi burner to forced burners to this magnificent beast of a burner. Good job sir. You will be shared plenty
For everyone continuing to ask. Yes I know “you can just melt the crayons out” I have done it that way before. I prefer drilling because I find it to be faster and makes less of a mess. Do whichever works for you.
I ask my children ; The first one who gets his package of crayons complete, win's a happy meal!
Your drilling out the crayon and saying what drill bit size you used saved my burner build. Thank you. I made one using straws and the holes were too small. I drilled them out and the flame stayed stable when I closed the glass furnace doors.
solvarr yeah I tried once with straws that were 1/4 inch instead of 5/16 and the burner didn’t want to run right. There’s some formula about total area of the holes vs the area of the inlet pipe but I’ve never went by it. 5/16 holes have always worked fine so I’ve never strayed from it
Thanks for saying; I was wondering that very thing.
You know you don't have to have your head in the fume plume when you're welding right?
"Grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't", haha I like that one.
reigninoel it’s how I get by without a tig. Lol
The gospel according to AvE
This dude must be new to welding.
As a former Marine and Retired Navy I've never eaten a crayon - but I hear purple tastes best. Thanks for your service.
Great video. I am a Marine loved the joke . This video helped me a ton.
The crayon eating comment killed me. I love your videos. I’m hoping to get into blade smithing before too long and Your videos helping me get a decent understanding of everything. Thank you! Great job!
During my Army aviation days I took a hit and somehow ended up in a naval high trauma hospital, I was the only soldier there and my roommate was a marine. When he wasn't eating Crayons and abusing his meds he would play a mouth turkey call day and night. I was able to avoid PTSD, but that Marine was a PITA. PS< in all seriousness, appreciate you making this video.
Fast food drinking straws work really well too and they pull out nice and easy with a pair of needle nose pliers, leaving a glass smooth tunnel through the Mizzou castable. Also, I put mine on top of the wood stove for about 7 or 8 days which means they went through dozens of say, 200 to 500+ degree heat cycles before I actually fired them. Good simple video. Thanks for posting- this info was a lot harder to find 2 years ago!
MillerBuilt that’s what I do also Even cheaper than crayons.
And less risk of losing them due to consumption!
OMG!!! I was hoping for the Marine/Crayon joke as soon as I saw the crayons! You've just made this Navy Vet your biggest fan! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Hey Taxi!
You will love this one Mat, my wife is a Navy CTM2 Vet and I am a Marine AMH2 (to use your vernacular). We went to high school together before our time in the service. To this day, 40 plus years later she tells me I cannot count past one. I attempted to get even. When we were married I had the vows changed to say to place the ring on her third finger. I said that I cannot do that. When he asked my why I said "because I cannot count that high". My smart little sailor said "no problem, and counted her fingers, one, one, one". She has always had a quick wit.
I was in the Rcaf up here for twenty years. Regularly I was part of the helo maintenance detachment on HMCS ships. Biggest problem was keeping supply techs away from anything shiny and stokers away from any liquids that resembled rum or scotch in colour.
Really enjoyable video. 😀👍
For removing the crayons, just dry it and heat it gently. The wax will melt and the paper will burn😉
Army vet too! The marine joke was a nice touch! Lol
I wasn't expecting the Marine joke. I love it. I was Army too.
Good idea to get an extra box of snacks. I'm about 136 percent sure the first box wouldn't last long enough to actually make the burner. Also, instead of drilling out the crayola fries, you can melt them out onto your favorite MRE. 🖍😋
Kevin Smith chili Mac is the only way
Especially good as an additive to the chicken-a-la-king. Of course that was a meal from the late 80's to early 90's.
Let me hear my Dessert Shield/Storm soldiers represent!
Dehydrated pork patty needed a sauce after reconstitution too.
Love the way you get to the pint with out the if's and buts . and appreciate your sense of hummer .
I built mine today got 19 holes and instead of cayons I use the less mess and easier plastic straws did find the 3/4" as good advice, and 2"X 4" handy. I oiled the straws before installing and lightly spray.I was told to space holes 11/4 center so they have 1" space apart
With your help I fill it will be fine ,
.had no wax to drill your waxy crarons.
John thanks for showing and teaching..
I peel the crayons before I set them in the mold and the only other thing I do differently is I melt the crayons out in the first of three heat cycles
Well and I use thinner side wall 3” pipe ,oh and I just drill the holes directly on top of the tube before I weld the 2” nipple to it (no bent plate to weld in doing it like that)
Great tutorial dude
You helped me out with my ribbon burner last summer, made a unique full top forge design, monolithic pour. Thanks
Not only was this really informative and helpful, but it pretty much made my day to watch!
Old school, love it. Great build also for future reference the refractory should be treated as cement kept sealed and given as long to dry as possible. Do not speed dry on vent. It will last much longer. Again though awesome build.
Love the crayon eater jokes. Nothing better than an Army guy poking fun at a Marine. Oh and thanks to you, I now have to make one of these...
Awesome video, thanks for unveiling the mystery of ribbon burner construction!
Hey John Followed your instructions and built a ribbon burner for forge
Works beautifully Thank you
I’m slowly making a gas forge because coal is getting more expensive and harder to find and it would be nice to run a cleaner fuel. And then I won’t get quite as dirty when I’m working. And propane is fairly cheap and easy to get I’m going to make a ribbon burner like how you made yours. I’m going with one that will be more durable and last longer. And I forge a lot so it will save money fast enough in fuel savings and electricity isn’t an issue. I like to make hammers and Damascus so it’s worth it for me. Thanks for the great video!
you are an excellent instructor. thank you so much for great explanations and instructions.
Army myself, an that crayon joke just got you subscriber
I'm planning on building a ribbon burner forge and came across your video while researching. Checked out a few of your other videos. I love your no-nonsense approach. Great information without all the fluff or a haughty attitude. I'm now a subscriber. Looking forward to more great content.
Great video John! I'm new to forging and am in the process of building a forge. Was planning on a venturi burner set up but you convinced me ribbon is the way to go.
I ve noticed the nice Galdrastafir on the wall very very nice and wise to protect the building this way.
Dang I'm doing burn chamber research- burner type stuff for a hot water on demand steam powered diy pressure washer- steam- foam gun.... and I've been watching videos for a while about this type of thing.... this was the most correct info I have found in one place. Thank you for taking the time to make this video brother.
Well I was already planning on building a new bigger forge with a ribbon burner. Now I’ve got that little extra drive I needed, thanks John, good instructions as well! Always enjoy your videos
Hey, thanks, I'll make one for my new workshop. Your video is a great help. Thanx from the Netherlands.
Thanks that was great, I will start on asap. In between cutting down firewood, then cut them into pieces oh and stack it.
Loved the crayon eating bit. We are dog faces. Poor jarheads.
Oh I'm a dooogfaaaced Soldiiiier, with a rifle on my shouldeeeerr... :-P
@@AflacMan13 I eat raw meat for breakfast every daaaaaayyy
Nice setup there. I'm a welder. If you beveled the square caps you can guarantee the weld holds after you grind the cap off flush like that. I've seen MIG beads pop right out doing what you did.
Also, sleeves and glasses...UV radiation will kill slow and painful by melanoma.
I am beveling mine (the ends and caps) I get what you mean. Yes, safety first
I just poured one with KS4V this morning. A lot thicker than your pour, I had to spoon it in and tap with a mallet to get it to settle proper. Going to see how it took in a few days, used plastic straws instead of crayons.
Dude, Forged in fire man! You did awesome! Love your stuff, keep it up!
That Marine joke was pretty good. Not sure what it's all about but funny none the less! I did not serve and I appreciate all are armed service men and women! God bless you all!! Keep on ⚒️ ing my friend! That forge is something to think about!!
The joke is that Marines like to eat crayons... It's mostly a joke about Marines not being smart enough to be Army. I'm ex-Navy, so I laughed way harder than I should have. Don't get me wrong, we all have respect for Marines, and all branches have jokes about them (especially Coast Guard and Air Force), but we all do actually respect each other.
@@thedocdodge WE can make jokes about each other and a fight might break out but it is family, if the SP's or MP's show up they aren't family. Civilians, we serve and protect them unlike a bunch of cops but they aren't family either.
@@EldarKinSlayer Totally agreed, shipmate!
@@thedocdodge hey, nothing wrong with the Navy and Air force, Marines and Soldiers need a ride to the fight, respectively. Thanks for the taxi service to all my Airmen friends.
@@thomasarussellsr And we did it with pride!
Great video. I was wondering how to make a ribbon burner. Now I know. Thank you.
Crayons only taste good when you wash them down with the tears of those who Aren't Ready to be Marines Yet (Army for short). Great tutorial brother, Semper Fi.
Semper Fi, Devil
Like he said, the Marines aren't ready to handle the crayons. Us Army folks can eat them without the Marine tears.
Semper fi more like simple mind
Always love a good crayon disclaimer. Semper Fi my Army brother.
Just did a fine job of my burner head and again thank you for your help Sir
3/4" death for the box , you stated but I missed it earlier.Thanks.
Good work Sir
Great job. That touch would be great to start a Bonfire !
When you said "don't eat the crayons" I knew a Marine joke was coming! lol Former soldier here and on a strange turn of events the two Marines I'm closest to are an aerospace engineering major and a computer engineering grad. I guess that's why they didn't stay in.
Excelente trabajo amigo, gracias por compartirlo. Saludos desde Ecatepec Mexico
Thanks for sharing. Thanks for your service
in process if making one. thanks for posting. im using plastic straws instead of crayons. hopefully it works out ok.
I made mine with straws and it came out great. I have been using it for about a year now and love it.
I was in the Army. Thanks for your service, brother. It's hard not to eat the crayons :-)
Straws works great and I dust with chalk dust.
Thanks
love the dig at marines
Oh great. Now I have to make this. Looks awesome. Thanks for the video.
Well now I got to make me one, great video👍👍👍
Very cool project. I look forward to seeing this in action.
Awesome build dude. Gonna make me one someday. Thanx for posting this video. Things don't seem so complicated when you explain them.
Very nice and interesting build! Like the candybox at 6:35😋
The green crayons are my favorite flavor...
Awesome build! Thanks for sharing!
Very cool. It looks like a fun idea to play with. It would be interesting to try to make a ring-shaped one with the holes on the inside and angled for venturi effect inside a keg furnace.
Awesome John! Thanks for sharing!
Former Marine here loved the crayon joke lol
I subscribed just because of the crayon joke. Lol. Well not just because. It was good humor.
Semper Fi
That was awesome dude. Thank you so much
Mad skills, hope to put this on my to do list. Thanks.
We all know what A.R.M.Y stands for. Aint Rready for Marines Yet. :). Thanks for the instructions.
Better than the Air Farce though?
Made one Works a treat
Best ever
Nice video, I just finished a ribbon burner build on my channel but I used straws for the holes instead of crayons. Just less of a mess and no need to drill out but it did take me a bit to pull all of them out of the refractory after it set. Anyway just a different way to skin a cat.
Thats awesome, just an ol jarhead here, so dont know of i can abstain fromthe snacks but I'd like to give this a try when i get me a forge built
Just put the right in the oven,. Lowest heat. Cookie sheet with foil under it. Wax will melt out at under 200 degrees. Residue will burn out easy on the first fire
drasons forge ill give that a go on the next one. Sounds easier
I like your ideas and it looks good.
Nice video. Grunt! Just an FYI. I just drilled a fire brick and put a tight snug fit of a manifold. I posted a video of it. Again. Nice build fellow army guy!
How's it holding up? Did you mortar it to the steel burner body at all?
LOVED this, thanks for posting!
great instructional video thanks
Great video! Thanks for the info!
You do know the reason Marines eat the crayons, is to keep the guys in the army that come in afterwards from drawing little flowers and butterflies all over the walls! Lol great video! Semper Fi
wait...you know Army guys that can color? I thought they only knew how to play on the sand tables (former Army guy)
Alot has changed since the 70's!
crayons! Lol!
Thank you for your service Brother. :-)
I'm in the process if making a small forced air burner (Paul Pinto design). I have been interested in the design that you made so I'm pleased to see it. Thank you. And thank you for your service.
What about using, instead of refractory or fire brick material, strips of flat bar material ( the dimensions of the ribbon burner) sandwiched together with the series of holes drilled through it and welded to the housing. ( only because getting a block of steel to those dimensions could be expensive).Not only would it glow red hot it would probably last for years or would it? That would certainly could be a quick and worth while approach. What do you think?
ruclips.net/video/hSRjEASWrnI/видео.html
Here is the concept I meant when I said some people make them from all steel. The plenum would be made as Normal but rather than the front bit being cast refractory you can use a thick steel plate with the same holes drilled. Welded airtight. Again I don’t know how well this holds up long term. Some swear by it. Others dismiss it entirely. I haven’t tried it myself so I couldn’t say
I built a "steel head" round ribbon burner, and it works. Not my design. I copied from Phil at PJT Forging. My build link is ruclips.net/video/6b3RGv6HmGQ/видео.html I have had some issues but not related to the metal overheating. The flame burns at the holes, as it should, nice and blue. I have had over-saturation issues. I have been working to resolve them. I utilized an in-line needle valve just past the shut off valve but before the mixing corners of the piping. I am working on a video depicting my issues and my resolution. I will say that I am also in process with a ribbon burner build like John's. My forge is longer and my current burner head is round. So a rectangular shape should match up better for heating. My current burner head works great! But it is pretty focused in the middle.
I am new, so I don't have history on how long it will hold up, etc.
Putting together a forge myself and was wondering if making the holes smaller would create a hotter flame and burn less fuel.
I'm thinking 1/4" holes throw more fuel than they can burn and smaller holes would be more efficient, plus hotter if you have a variable speed fan to adjust the stoichometricity of the flames. If that's even a word tricity I mean.
Was going to build with a nozzle then this blacksmith down the street showed me an air assisted forge he recently purchased with a drilled round plate and then I see these ribbon burner forges but read where they go through a tank in a couple of sessions.
So I wondered if creating smaller holes even cone shaped to possibly add pressure to them would help increase efficiency.
Putting the tips of the crayon on the bottom would do what I mean by a cone shape but the actual exit hole would be smaller than the crayon using just the tip to form the orifice.
Not sure about the mixer working as is assumed.
Possibly welding a angle iron to split the fumes and in the pipe put some sort of swirled to mix the gas and air.
But yours works and mine is in my head still so yeah uh....I'm still thinking.
Also wondered putting a plate in the middle where you cut out to put refractory in. And capping the ends and sides but not completely allowing the refractory to fill in the area to attach to the head or whatever it's called to force the gasses to the holes and stop some side aerodynamics from slopping up the gas to the holes. I'm thinking side turbulence 🤷
I could be thinking into it too much as well
Nicely Done Sir.
Kenneth built my burner as well. And that James guy is a nut...lol
I was waiting for the crayon joke as soon as I saw the box 😂😂 Well done window licker. Well done 😂😂
Just an FYI but if you take the paper off the Crayons instead of having to drill them out since their basic material that they are made out of is wack when you toss it in your oven just tilt it in the wax will melt out therefore you don't have to drill it and have any issues with cracking or anything else like that just an FYI I cork put a pan underneath it that way you don't have wax build-up in your oven
I like the blueberry semper fi brother
I seem to be missing something. while i understand cutting, drilling, and forming, when the cast material goes up into the steel body of the burner and it far does it go? Does it touch the bent flat metal with all the holes inside the steel body or is there a space and how much space is needed?
Sweet Jeebus! That’s some fire.
Dude great video. Super helpful
Just checking in for the link to the rest of your build! :)
Curious how to set up the rest.
I’m using my rail heater for high carbon track welding.
Looking to upgrade to the ribbon burner this year. :)
Thank you so much on the build
Spackle and paint make me a saint
Didn't see the link to purchase the premade ribbon burner.
Thank you
Kens email is in the description. He’s a good dude
I'm just beginning to get into forging and heard you mention a ribbon burner on another one of your videos. I built many burners for BBQ's and smokers and Have a question, do you really need to use the refractory/crayons on the bottom of the burner? Couldn't you just drill the bottom of the steel body and get the same results without the extra?
What is the longest length you could make on one of those burners? Is something like 18 inches long possible? Like say for going into a forge made from a water heater tank?
Great video. I was just wondering what happens if you shut off the air between heats. I could see using this burner with a hand crank blower if you didn't have electricity in you forge. But I can also see gas building up and causing a problem with a possibility of exploding.
Soggy Bottom Forge yeah don’t do that. The gas has to have air constantly pushing it with this type of burner. If you want to cut it off between heats cut the gas and leave the air running
@@OldHickoryForge that's what I thought. Thanks.
Yes and ALWAYS air on first , and off last!
After we drill out the crayons, than can we eat'um? Great info thanks.
Great video man.
Great video thanks mate! I have Satanite as a refractory; could you see any issues using this and perhaps mixing with kitty litter to make a slurry?
Good one John.
Goodman , very informative