Awesome, do you have a video of opening it from the bottom side? I´ve e-tron that hit some debris on a road, car got slightly banged up on its bottom plate.. wouldnt be a problem but it started to loose colant. From Audi documents I see there is coolant plate sandwiched between this lower pan and battery itself. You think that can be undone in the car? Thanks.
Super material!. I use these modules myself in RV. To be exact, I have two such batteries. In case of problems, I also have the option to combine them into a 6S pack and use them as a power bank for offgride.
No batteries last for ever, of course, but staying proactive and aiming for 80% charge can help them last longer. This is because the battery finds it easier to charge when it is slightly empty, rather than nearly full, and therefore has less stress within its charging cycle.
Also it doesn't mean you can't charge to 100% - you can. And you would the night before a long trip. You just don't want to leave your NMC battery @ 100% too often as it shortens the lifespan of the battery. 80% is enough for most drivers to handle 99% of their driving needs. On a road trip you generally only charge to 80% to save time as it takes almost as long to charge that last 20% as it did to charge the first 70%. But if you can, charging to 100% occasionally won't hurt the battery. The 5% at the top and bottom is just to protect the battery. Discharging a battery fully and then leaving it empty can result in permanent damage to the cells so manufacturers like to avoid the very bottom and very top of the charging curve.
Impressive how you can work out the main components in that "brains" unit. Have you seen the super capacitor "batteries" they are fitting to some of the small hybrid cars? Regenerative braking can charge them in a minute.
Hej! Jag har köpt mina batterier via bildelsbasen, några i Sverige men de flesta i Norge. Gick bra att förhandla priset för ett år sedan men idag ser det nog värre ut med det. Kul att du tycker intressant. Tack för din kommentar ha det gott 😊
Hi I’ve bought a damaged repairable etron. I currently can’t get it started as I’m told the pyro fuse is causing it not to start. Have you any idea what part or module I need to change? Where it’s located? And can this be done easily?(diy)
Hi. I didn’t find any real pyro fuse inside of this unit. I actually think that it is all made up in the software after the crash signal from the airbag ecu, so you probably need to change the battery ECU or the hole control unit to get rid of this problem…, and then you have to go to your dealer and have this unit programmed to your car.
Do you have a crash error code in it? If so I think you need to replace it. But I’m not 100% sure. I couldn’t find any pyrotechnic fuse inside it so probably “software” fuse. Pretty stupid if so… Hope you can repair it.
Hi, did you manage to see the location of the Pyrofuse? Looking on forums they're saying its inside the battery module, but i couldn't see it in your vehicle. Many thanks!
@@flyingtools Yes there is in the BMS module housing, you did not get to it in the video. In case of a crash you have to replace that one. Is yours still ok or not? I have a e-tron for sale here where I live and I am thinking of buying it as the prices are quite cheap because of this fuse location problem. :P
Hi can you please advise if the accident related "pyro" fuse is in the box with relays etc inside? That would be a great help to know where it is. thanks!
Hi. I looked at it today and I removed everything inside of it an no pyrotechnical fuse is located inside of this relay box. I have to say that I was I little surprised.
Hello,can you please help me? i have audi e tron 55 2019, and one of battery call need to replace,the part number is 4KE915591F.so is that possible replace F to H ?4KE915591H because i find just this part and can’t understand what is the difference
14:30 - Not the master on this assembly - the Battery management control module is separate in the GE E-tron / Q8 E-tron, right hand side lower A pillar vehicle interior (J840). To be fair however that unit (switching unit SX6) does deal with alot of stuff including current measurements, isolation resistance checking etc....
@@ItisImarko Då hade jag valt var sin BMS till varje pack. Denna båten byggde jag i våras med fyra id3 batterier i parallellkopplade med var sin Orion BMS. Kul projekt du håller på med👍🏻😊 Converting an old tugboat to electric drive using industrial parts and 4 vw id3 batteries ruclips.net/video/jNxYF-lEEtU/видео.html
What does a battery like that cost where you are? In the UK a 90kWh Jaguar I-pace battery costs £9,000. Although I have seen some for £4,000. Yuo have to take a risk that all the cells are ok, 90kWh for £4,000 is pretty cheap compared to EVE prismatic LiFePO currently about £2000 for 15kWh with BMS in a case, new.
Looking at the amount of space some of these batteries have around each cell I'm surprised that they are not engineered to have a douse port, like Formula E cars, that a fire engine can connect to externally and totally flood the battery with water. Cooling the cells in a fire is the key to putting them out.
I think it is a danish company who have developed some kind of drill that the fire fighters use to flush and cool the batteries in case of emergency/fire. But I have been in the same thoughts as you there. Thanks for your comment.
How you think,what is the middlel/medium price for 1kwh EV battery from NO? I living in LV,driving sometimes to NO via Swe🙂 Have the same situation like you,PV system with high voltage Fronius Symo hybrid inverter,need a battery backup... Planning from EV...
Hello, I will be buying a used Jaguar I-Pace pack which is similar to this one. I will be trying to reverse engineer the battery pack to use the BMS. Have you done any work on this yourself? I believe the modules each house 2 temp sensors and have 3 cell taps for connection to the BMS slaves that then network to the BMS master.
I am so surprised at the ease of access to all items. No Apple input there. Currently watching from uninsulated 250mm brick wall flat in North Belfast, outside temperature 0'c. 3 months old 6 x 100ah lion deep cycle, 6x100w Renogy, 5.6Kw 48v, 80a charge off grid inverter and 2800w petrol generator. You're teasing us with the vehicle battery packs. Thanks for the video and explanations.
Sir i have a new car audi 2022 But just a problem in tha car Car is not.starting lost communication with drive motar cntrol module problem Where is its control module mounted?
I have the etron 55, it's an awesome car. As an electronics guy it's great to see what's inside. Thanks.
Tank you for watching and for your comment 😃
etron edition 1 owner here. This is great, thank you
Thank you for watching ☺️
For anyone interested, the main contactor shown at 16:30-17:00 appears to be TE V23720-A0001-A001.
Thanks for the info.
I have an etron, so thanks for the look inside :)
Awesome, do you have a video of opening it from the bottom side? I´ve e-tron that hit some debris on a road, car got slightly banged up on its bottom plate.. wouldnt be a problem but it started to loose colant. From Audi documents I see there is coolant plate sandwiched between this lower pan and battery itself. You think that can be undone in the car? Thanks.
Super material!. I use these modules myself in RV. To be exact, I have two such batteries. In case of problems, I also have the option to combine them into a 6S pack and use them as a power bank for offgride.
Thank you so much. That’s a good option.👍🏻
Amazing. Now can you explain why only 85kwh is usable? On top if that you charge to 80% so now there is 1/3 of the battery that wont be used.
No batteries last for ever, of course, but staying proactive and aiming for 80% charge can help them last longer. This is because the battery finds it easier to charge when it is slightly empty, rather than nearly full, and therefore has less stress within its charging cycle.
Also it doesn't mean you can't charge to 100% - you can. And you would the night before a long trip. You just don't want to leave your NMC battery @ 100% too often as it shortens the lifespan of the battery. 80% is enough for most drivers to handle 99% of their driving needs. On a road trip you generally only charge to 80% to save time as it takes almost as long to charge that last 20% as it did to charge the first 70%. But if you can, charging to 100% occasionally won't hurt the battery. The 5% at the top and bottom is just to protect the battery. Discharging a battery fully and then leaving it empty can result in permanent damage to the cells so manufacturers like to avoid the very bottom and very top of the charging curve.
Impressive how you can work out the main components in that "brains" unit.
Have you seen the super capacitor "batteries" they are fitting to some of the small hybrid cars? Regenerative braking can charge them in a minute.
Thanks 😊
I haven’t sen them yet but I hope to learn more about that type of battery.
Intressant film! 😃👍Såg du sprickan i busbaren vid 9:21 i själva svetsen?
Vill helt klart se fortsättningen! Är otroligt sugen på något liknande! 👌😃
Tack 😃
Ja, men det är troligen mer konstruktionsbetingat än ett fel i sig.
Kul att det uppskattas 😊
This is amazing. Can't wait for the build.
Great channel! Greetings from Poland
Thank you so much 😃
Look forward to see the build 👍
Do you have list of component names / part numbers for Battery Junction Box or Master BMS pcb? from 13:30 onward
Hi!
No, sadly not. And I do not think that Audi have them as separate spare parts anyway.
Hi Thanks a lot for this very nice video ! Can you explain a bit more on the current sensor used normally in the battery junction box?
Hi and thank you.😃
It is a shunt type current sensor.
Sadly I do not have more information about it.
Thanks for your question 😊
Great video. Can you do a deeper disassembly into the BMS and the battery pack?
Thanks. It’s a little hard to do that now when I don’t have all the parts to it anymore😅
Wow can’t wait to see more ,you’re epic 🎉
Haha, thanks😃
Thanks for showing us this!
I’m glad you liked it.
Thanks ☺️
intressant! Var köper du batterier i Sverige? Jag blir nyfiken på begagnade priser.
Hej!
Jag har köpt mina batterier via bildelsbasen, några i Sverige men de flesta i Norge. Gick bra att förhandla priset för ett år sedan men idag ser det nog värre ut med det.
Kul att du tycker intressant.
Tack för din kommentar ha det gott 😊
Very nice video 👍
Did you remove the battery from the neighbour's car 🤭 or did you get it as defective?
Thank you 😃
Haha, no I bought it from a crashed car.
Hi I’ve bought a damaged repairable etron. I currently can’t get it started as I’m told the pyro fuse is causing it not to start. Have you any idea what part or module I need to change? Where it’s located? And can this be done easily?(diy)
Hi. I didn’t find any real pyro fuse inside of this unit. I actually think that it is all made up in the software after the crash signal from the airbag ecu, so you probably need to change the battery ECU or the hole control unit to get rid of this problem…, and then you have to go to your dealer and have this unit programmed to your car.
After the crash something happens to that module 4KE915253F car won’t go or charge and you have to replace it or it is possible to repair ?
Do you have a crash error code in it?
If so I think you need to replace it.
But I’m not 100% sure.
I couldn’t find any pyrotechnic fuse inside it so probably “software” fuse. Pretty stupid if so… Hope you can repair it.
Hi, did you manage to see the location of the Pyrofuse? Looking on forums they're saying its inside the battery module, but i couldn't see it in your vehicle. Many thanks!
No pyro fuse inside this battery, or I can’t not find any, and I have tried 😅
So probably only software.
@@flyingtools Yes there is in the BMS module housing, you did not get to it in the video. In case of a crash you have to replace that one. Is yours still ok or not? I have a e-tron for sale here where I live and I am thinking of buying it as the prices are quite cheap because of this fuse location problem. :P
@@TheJaoMing no physical fuse, just software then I guess. No I do not have it.
Hi can you please advise if the accident related "pyro" fuse is in the box with relays etc inside? That would be a great help to know where it is. thanks!
Yes, it should be there, i will take a look at that tomorrow, i missed that when i did the video. I come back to you later.
Hi. I looked at it today and I removed everything inside of it an no pyrotechnical fuse is located inside of this relay box.
I have to say that I was I little surprised.
@@flyingtools Thanks so much for looking at this for me. Great informative video by the way, very interesting!
Hello,can you please help me? i have audi e tron 55 2019, and one of battery call need to replace,the part number is 4KE915591F.so is that possible replace F to H ?4KE915591H because i find just this part and can’t understand what is the difference
Hi!
Does it have the same colour on the connector? If so, then I am pretty sure that it will work.
They are either black or white.
Hope this helps☺️
14:30 - Not the master on this assembly - the Battery management control module is separate in the GE E-tron / Q8 E-tron, right hand side lower A pillar vehicle interior (J840). To be fair however that unit (switching unit SX6) does deal with alot of stuff including current measurements, isolation resistance checking etc....
Thank you for clarifying that and shearing your knowledge😃👍🏻
Har du fortsatt hoved boks? Jeg trenger CAD av den:)... BTW jeg har 2 x 2.6kW trenger 6 til for 90v:))
Tyvärr inget jag säljer. Kul att du också bygger batterier☺️
@@flyingtools ja..skal lage en snekke.. og fram tid en stor segler..med 2x pakke ..så jeg var veldig nysgjerrig hvordan er kontrollert i parallelt
@@ItisImarko Då hade jag valt var sin BMS till varje pack. Denna båten byggde jag i våras med fyra id3 batterier i parallellkopplade med var sin Orion BMS.
Kul projekt du håller på med👍🏻😊
Converting an old tugboat to electric drive using industrial parts and 4 vw id3 batteries
ruclips.net/video/jNxYF-lEEtU/видео.html
What does a battery like that cost where you are? In the UK a 90kWh Jaguar I-pace battery costs £9,000. Although I have seen some for £4,000. Yuo have to take a risk that all the cells are ok, 90kWh for £4,000 is pretty cheap compared to EVE prismatic LiFePO currently about £2000 for 15kWh with BMS in a case, new.
Around 1000sek/kWh
@@flyingtools OK, so similar, maybe slightly cheaper. £7k.
Looking at the amount of space some of these batteries have around each cell I'm surprised that they are not engineered to have a douse port, like Formula E cars, that a fire engine can connect to externally and totally flood the battery with water. Cooling the cells in a fire is the key to putting them out.
I think it is a danish company who have developed some kind of drill that the fire fighters use to flush and cool the batteries in case of emergency/fire. But I have been in the same thoughts as you there.
Thanks for your comment.
What are the outside dimensions of these e-tron modules?
Hi.
Sorry for my late reply.
L39xW15xH11 all in cm.
@@flyingtools Thank you, that is VDA 390 module format.
Vad ska du köra med för BMS ?
Hej😃
Det blir en 15s daly 120A
Would be nice to know how much each pack is
In this video video let you know.
Audi e-tron 55 DIY 95 kWh solar storage battery.
ruclips.net/video/wgBijQOXn_I/видео.html
Var köper du batterierna från?
Hej.
Mestadels ifrån Norge.
Handlat en del via bildelsbasen också men börjar bli lite svårare med både frakt och tillgång.
How you think,what is the middlel/medium price for 1kwh EV battery from NO? I living in LV,driving sometimes to NO via Swe🙂 Have the same situation like you,PV system with high voltage Fronius Symo hybrid inverter,need a battery backup... Planning from EV...
@@edijsegli527 Hi!
Around 100 euro/kWh exclusive tax
now days.
Hello, I will be buying a used Jaguar I-Pace pack which is similar to this one. I will be trying to reverse engineer the battery pack to use the BMS. Have you done any work on this yourself? I believe the modules each house 2 temp sensors and have 3 cell taps for connection to the BMS slaves that then network to the BMS master.
Hi.
Sadly I have no idea how those modules are configured.
Nice video n great tool wall :)
Thank you 😃
thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching 😊
how much did it cost ya?
Around 100euro/kWh
You are a ⭐️
Thank you😅
Nice!
Thank you 🙏☺️
I am so surprised at the ease of access to all items. No Apple input there. Currently watching from uninsulated 250mm brick wall flat in North Belfast, outside temperature 0'c. 3 months old 6 x 100ah lion deep cycle, 6x100w Renogy, 5.6Kw 48v, 80a charge off grid inverter and 2800w petrol generator. You're teasing us with the vehicle battery packs. Thanks for the video and explanations.
I'm also in Ireland... Not much solar this time of year is there? I had to turn my wee off grid system off... To save power and the batteries.
Would you sell me that pyrofuse which is in that box that you opened
Hi again. I took a look at it today and ther is no pyrofuse inside of that box. I have to admit that I was a little surprised.
Sir i have a new car audi 2022
But just a problem in tha car
Car is not.starting
lost communication with drive motar cntrol module problem
Where is its control module mounted?
Model and error code?
Wow Dude! :D U are THE Tech Nerd :D i subscribed :D You can crack some Elon style jokes if you want :D
Hahaha, thank you so much and I welcome to my channel 😃