First Session w/a Wild Horse - CHARGING! | Mojave Stud Session 1
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2021
- This is my first session with an 8-year-old wild cryptorchid horse. He was brought in to have 5 days of training with me. There was a slight aggression moment in this first session but 99% of aggression develops from fear so it must be handled with a non-aggressive response back! Mojave got a little too confident but also worried about his space so he charged me in our first session. There will be a few more sessions to show his progress!
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Hey! My name is Sam and I enjoy making content of all my horse adventures and sharing some training tips to help others understand horses a little better. I enjoy competing in Extreme Mustang Makeovers and traveling cross-country with my horses and teaching clinics! I love interacting with all of you so feel free to leave me a comment or message me on Instagram :)
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Re-occurring Horses (Personal + Current Training)
Mojave- 8yo 14.2hh bay stud (Feral Cryptorchid)
Lynx- 7yo 14.2hh grey gelding BLM Mustang (Wood Hills NV)
Calliope- 16yo 16hh pinto mare Draft X (PMU foal) 
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Love this so much, I love the positive energy and comfort working with an unpredictable horse. The way you handled his charge was so calm and collected.
nice to see your support and approval RL14... as one of your paetrons, I am not suprised:)
Hi Raleigh! I love your videos!
RALEIGH I LOVE YOUR VIDS
Raleigh I normally agree with you on many things, but this is not one. He was entirely predictable and communicated clearly as did she. He gave clear warnings to her about his discomfort. She followed him around the round pen instead of asking him to move around it and applying just the pressure needed to get him to comply but followed him so he never got a release of pressure to show he was doing the right thing. He was already pawing and giving clear ear signals. When she would back up to "remove pressure" and just ask him to look at her, she would then walk in and apply pressure to touch him or have him smell her so he never had all the pressure removed and got to go "oh, this is good and how I get pressure off". His head was high the entire time and he never lowered it to show he was comfortable in understanding what she was asking. The horse needs to approach you and not you approach them and not normally day 1. She speaks of other mustangs doing the same thing. This is and was way too much to ask for the very first day of training a wild horse/mustang. If she got two eyes when she asked him to stop and he ever took a step towards her or came off the rail/round pen on the inside turns then that would be what a good first session would have been. He was confused, frustrated, uncomfortable and he tried going forward, backwards, and other ways to get away from her and she would not give him the freedom to get away. He charged because he had no other options and she remained right on him. If you rewatch the video and count when he gives her two eyes, is she backed off for a full 30 seconds so he understands? Is he licking and chewing? Do you see his head drop? or do you see him try to escape calmly and she wont let the pressure come off? She needs to be in the center of the round pen and use as little pressure as possible to get what she wants. The charging was human caused imo if you watch the video as some someone who works with untrained horses. I can even link other channels where if the horse gives two eyes and moves the hindquarters over so they are straight on with the person they will call it for a first session and these people run the TIP programs for Mustangs. No touching. Way too fast. I felt bad because I could not tell you what he could do to get her to release the pressure and leave him alone for even a full 30 seconds or longer and this is his very first real introduction into working with humans. He was entirely overwhelmed.
@@Lizzard2060 what saying “unpredictable” I don’t think it’s referring to his behavior. This is her first session with him. I think “unpredictable” refers to she spent on blind knowing nothing about how he would react to any new stimuli. You do make a good point though and both Sam and Raleigh pointed out that the charge was predictable. I don’t necessarily think he was overwhelmed though, just testing boundaries and curious,
They way you respond with calm intellect rather than emotion is seriously inspirational. I see too many big name trainers just get mad and "make them work" instead of calming them back down.
to be fair, she still did make him work, she just did it in a calm and collected way lol.
@@iimdone I meant that in the sense of when they just want to exhaust them instead of using their brain.
@@lauraallen7942 ahh yes i know what you mean now, the classic "traditional way" haha
Nothing productive can be achieved by getting angry with a horse.
I don't see people's issue 🤷♀️ I think you handled him very well and it's refreshing to see someone not wanting to punish a horse for being scared and responding to his natural instincts x
He's lucky to have you working with him
I have to say that seeing the way you handled his charging really made me feel good about some of my actions in the past. I’m not a trainer, but I worked at a summer camp with horses and kids and our trainer got thrown and the horse was coming back to trample her and I had to jump in and send him off. Everyone said I was crazy for putting myself between them but I really was afraid for our trainer!
Girl you probably saved her life!
He started walking towards her and she moved the whip, he obviously got spooked
He tested you and you responded calmly and assertively. That was a turning point.
I get tested by my very stallion like gelding on occasion. My response is similar. He mostly just wants to play and gets carried away. Playing with a human is a lot different than playing with another horse. No rear, no feet towards the human, no biting or attempted biting.
I don’t think he was “testing” her. He we just scared and thought that was the only way out. She did handle the charge beautifully.
@@hg2796 You don't think blah...blah..blah.... That horse is a wild stallion (not a gelding)! The woman in the video was overdoing the drawing in by backing up - at one point the stallion was interpreting the backing up as a sign of submission, so he decided to test what's up. Also, there was no reason for the stallion to get scared as the trainer was repeatedly backing up. I must say though that she handled the charge very assertively. I agree with Amber Blyledge above that this was the turning point.
He's a gorgeous mover. Oh my word, he's stunning.
Also you're so impressive!
That is one seriously stunning horse
Fantastic Teaching! This seems to be the type of video style I learn best from! It reinforces your previous ones for me. I think I'll rewatch Roo. Thank you!
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Wow girl ! You handled that like a boss !!!! I haven’t seen that before but so glad your the horsewoman that you are and you didn’t get hurt and acted like it wasn’t really a big deal !!! I bet inside you were saying a couple of words tho. Lol. Thanks for another awesome vid !!! This one is going to be fun to see what happens !!! ❤️🐴
Really appreciate your narration and your explanation that aggression can stem from fear. So many horses are misunderstood. Thanks for a great video!
I grew up with horses and at the age of 13 got a 1.5 year old filly off the range and spent the next 5 years growing with my best friend. Life intervened and horses fell out of my life for over 30 years. Now at 55 I am back in the saddle taking lessons and loving being reunited with horses, I can’t believe I left it for this long. Your videos are so lovely and educational and they are giving me the confidence to show up in a calm positive way as I remember how to be with horses. Please don’t stop. You are my favorite mustang trainer out there. I am hoping to adopt in another year or so when we have space fenced and prepped. Hopefully by then I will feel fully confident to give a mustang a lovely home.
Super excited to keep watching his progress
You did a really good job. From personal experience of decades with horses, it made me nervous the ropes on the ground and your backing into their vicinity. I'd suggest hanging the ropes on the fence till you need them and then put back when your done, nothing on the ground. For me, it was a little too much pushing but you still achieved what you set out to do. When he charged you, you had an excellent response. He'll be okay. Thanks for showing the video.
You did great with him charging! I don't know if I could have handled it that well, to be honest!
Thanks for sharing!
I feel like your back up is a good tool to draw them in. But in some horses minds they may see it as a passive move. Possibly do a back up and draw them in then set a boundary and have them move back or halt. Good job and thanks for explaining your moves.
That was like the only valid critique from “Think Like a Horse.” He quickly got on my nerves when he tried to prove this trainer as incompetent when there’s no video proof to back up that claim.
I guess men get threatened when women do better than them or don’t need their help 😂
You are such a joy to watch train and hear your thought processes, Sam. Thank you for your willingness to share your journeys with us. In much appreciation~Deb🌸🌿
Love this!
I’m so excited for this!
Lovely work.
That was amazing! I love learning how horses think and how you approach every situation. I love all of it
Great session. What a good start.
I am amazed at what you do and have respect for the work you put in. Please keep helping horses.
Great job, so refreshing to see trainer not lose their cool but stay completely calm. Kudos for showing this and pointing out your mistakes. We all miss cues from time to time. Glad you do not hide them. Makes you much more relatable.
Another awesome video!! Thank you!!
Wow, what a quick reaction!
Hey kid, keep your chin up! Remember, opinions are like a--holes; everybody has one. As I said in my other comment in the other video, if people do not want to know the facts or educate themselves to the full story, it's their problem.
Your disposition with him is lovely.
Awesome reaction with the charge, I love the way you’re working with him
He is a handsome man! Looking forward to seeing progress with him. 😀
Beautiful to watch. I’ve been trying to find a more balanced way of training a horse and more of a partnership than just number one and number two. and this video really shows it beautifully. I love how you work with horses❤️
That is a lot of horse. Looks good. We know he is about to learn a whole lot.
Definitely thought of Rue when I started watching this! you handle everything beautifully, as usual.
Thanks for the awesome video Sam :)
Impressive!
Wow! That was beautiful work! When he charged you and you responded like a Dam protecting her goal, although it was your own life you were protecting! Thank you for showing us all your courage and professionalism.
Great horsemanship, great reaction!
This was really interesting to watch. I rewatched the part where he charges you, and it seemed like he interpreted the backing up to draw him in as more that he was moving you out of his space so he just followed through with his thinking on that track. Which makes sense given how horses communicate in herds, that concept of drawing him in would be new to him, if my understanding is correct. He really responded well, it amazes me how much horses can adapt to communication from humans and things that are new. Great work. Your videos are really encouraging as I start back in to owning a horse again and building the right foundations, thankful to have found your page.
Great video! Wow! You handled his charge amazingly! You are such a pro! 👏❤️🐴
You’re timing and feel is 👌🏼
THIS IS THE WAY TO TRAIN A HORSE!
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Great job!!
Excellent video! ❤️
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Great job love video cant wait until next time ❤❤🙏
Excellent! i am going to watch the roulette series.
He's a gorgeous stallion! Holy crap!
Great and wonderful horse Sam, loved it, youre awesome. Love Roos 🙋🏻♀️🌹🥰💪🏻👊🏻😁🤩 girl power
definitely interested in following this dude
Great quick reaction to that charge!
I did not see that charge coming and therefore probably would have reacted too late! Good thing I don't do this kind of work. He really only sped up and increased his energy (plus the bitey head stretch) when he was already pretty close. Did you respond to him picking up some speed - what are you watching out for there? Really well handled.
He seems more bold than Rue, less fearful more "you're pushing my buttons, let's see if I can get you out of my way"?
Watching Rick Gore (Think like a horse) I think the reason the horse charged wasn't that he was being invited in (like she says in the video) because all the other times the horse followed in on the draw, his head was low and respectful. When he followed her in when he charged, his head was up and he thought he was pushing her, and so tried to rush her to get the high horse position. But the fact that she makes him react and get away from her is so much more than I could have done. She's amazing.
@@Tevikolady Rick Gore would have pooped his pants! :) I take that back.....Rick Gore would have refused to enter the arena.
Great reaction to that charge!
Well done
Wow well done !
Wow you are soooooo good not a lot of people would have been able to stand their ground like that👏
Good looking solid horse.
WELL DONE.
I always wondered how trainers start with horses. Clever idea leaving the lead rope and stuff for him to get used to. Well done.
I admit I got startled when he charged! Didn't expect that at all! I literally jumped!
wow your horsemanship is quite Impressive
Great work, love the Harley shirt.
Beautifully handled. Well done 👍🏼👏🏼
He's a nice looking mustang. He's actually a nice mover from what I could see. Great work!!
This is so cool and he is so pretty!!!
Awesome video!! You are brave!!
Your doing a great job keep up your good work
What pretty coloring he has. Best of luck to you and he :)
You handled that charge beautifully
Wow, what a gorgeous horse! I think you handled everything very well, and that this boy is a smart one! Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I've always wanted to own or adopt a mustang or other wild horse, but I honestly don't think I'm experienced- or even just good enough to try. You're such an inspiration, keep doing what you do best.
Wow, you did an awesome job girl. I'd trust you to train my horses.💕
Lol to any people in the comments saying that was from fear😂 that horse clearly has NO fear in him. He’s a confident wild stallion for gosh sakes. AND she was backing up. Clearly he was testing her, thinking her backing up was him moving her off.
oh wow he’s gorgeous
Wow great job I learn so much watching you. I replayed the charge several times. Interesting to look at your posture before and after. Your core /rib cage lifted without tensing your shoulders.. That is a good posture to work for in any activity. or sport from piano playing to ballet to functional equitation to just walking in general.. It is too often confused with shoulders backand tenseness. Nope, it is from the core. Self carriage. The education you provide is so authentic. Linda Tellington -Jones came to mind as I watched you. Different movie, same genre...and both of you explain so well. Thanks:)
Think you did a really great job 👏 ✌
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You're so brave! I've been riding for 60 years. I've never been comfortable around stallions . I mean I love them,..... they are so beautiful and strong. But they scare me. Good job with this boy. I hope he gets and stays in a wonderful home
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I think you responded perfectly.
The very first lessons are always exciting to watch.
I am always surprised how well-built mustangs can be. I hope this is due to proper herd management.
Natural predators!
Mostly natural selection.
Nature rarely tolerates weakness or sickness.
A Farrier I knew talked about how strong Mustang hooves were. Not soft like domestic horses. Had less problems.
Usually they just need a trim.
I don't believe this one is a mustang- just a feral horse! He's not BLM branded at least
@@equarg a lot of that has to do with feed, and lush grass that dew up every morning. Out west there is only a short period of time where the grasses are lush in the spring, but where I live it's that way all summer providing it's not dry. My friends in Wyoming didn't have that problem.
Saludos desde Asturias España 🐎🐎💪💪🍀🍀
You’re a brave lady. You hit the nail on the head. Hard to stick to in the moment sometimes but you’re always safer when you stand your ground
God that horse sure is gorgeous…man he looks so badass
Well done! Someday I’d like to be a good a trainer as you are
You did a great job reading the situation and standing your ground. He did not pin his ears when he aggressively approached you.
He didn't pin his ears because the charge wasn't aggressive in nature. When you are teaching a wild mustang on the first day to give you two eyes you give them the reward of space and for at least 30 seconds and do it many times. She would say she is rewarding the two eyes and back up but then go right back into his space pushing for touching and smelling. He was already pawing and had his ears upset earlier. When he went around the round pen she followed him physically instead of staying in the middle so he had no release from pressure there. This horse literally tried to go backwards and forwards in this video to get a release from pressure and she was already onto the next thing. He clearly expressed discomfort and was pushed way too far for a first day. He did what he did to try and get some space because if he was really aggressive she would have been on the ground. He was simply expressing "I am frustrated and you never give me a full minute of release and I can't figure out what you want because I never get a full release". He is very calm and that was simply a frustration statement and not aggression. He showed signs before and after, she even admits in the video she should have taken some of the signs around 2:30 but still keeps the pressure on. The horses behavior throughout the video is that he is uncomfortable and does not know how to get a release from her for a full 30 seconds. I believe she didn't read the situation clearly at all if you watch the horse's behavior.
wow, what a reaktion at min 7:51, and how calm you stay. That was a very dangerous situation.
I would say that charge was VERY gentle (not saying it was very uncomfortable and sudden) and the stud, even not comfortable, has good personality. Last time I´ve encountered something like that was rescuee, but with...well, complicated point of view on humans. Tried to scare me off (while sneakingly staying behind me, so I didn´t suspect anything) and with open mouth charged at me. I wasn´t able to anything, but she only scratched my ear, while didn´t expect I wouldn´t move. She could maul me or kicked me afterwards - but she didn´t. But after the herd accepted her, she was with it and no more charging. I THINK, she wanted company and while I suddenly turned around, I spooked her and she attacked. I wasn´t able to decipher her behaviour, but as long she was happy with new herd, it didn´t matter that much. Mind you, I was just a volunteer and stablehand, so horses weren´t mine.
Could definitely see that energy in his movements before the charge! That's crazy, but he's gotta figure out his boundaries somehow. He's got a good mind 😁 These animals could easily push on to trample and bite but this dude hesitated enough to back off when she reacted to him. Still a scary situation either way, that's why we leave them for the professionals 😅
If he wanted to kill her he would have. He was just challenging her to see how much she would put up with.
@@krisbaker9427 Yeah that's exactly my point. That's why I said he has a good mind lol. Nothing stopping him from doing so yet he had the willingness to back off after testing her. 😁 it's awesome to see a wild stud like that.
Sometimes with confident studs especially, you can’t work them the same way. You can’t be as gentle. You can’t give them so much space and back away from them. If you give them an inch, they’ll take a mile. You responded really well.
That is not why he charged.
@@loredelore7286 it 100% is. Backing away and giving space to a confident stallion often results in them trying the boundaries. Not even just mustangs but many stallions.
@@loredelore7286 I also disagree with you: the stallion interpreted backing up as a submissive behaviour. As a stallion, his job is to see who will be the leader in the forming relationship. He tested the waters after reading the trainer's behaviour!
@@GMATTOEFLSATGRECOACH Sam had backed up many times before he charged. This is a wild stallion not a domesticated stallion they have a lower threshold for pressure and a quicker response to it. You are correct in principle but this situation was more complex as he had become irritated and was imploding well before he charged which started earlier in this session and Sam makes that clear in her commentary. She is an excellent clinician and horsewomen. Wild studs have a lower threshold for pressure, and are tuned into direction speed of advance and retreat and are highly tuned to intent. He will have had many a battle out in the wild, many successful regardless of whether it was an advance or retreat. When studs meet and lock it happens quickly and does not last for more than ten minutes in most cases and fight not flight is their modus operandi regardless of whether you advance or retreat, for this guy, the two mean the same and his 8 years as a stud shows that was clearly displayed here. I have had many wild horses over the years and what I found successful in terms of training and handling is many short sessions per day sometimes three to four but lasting no more than ten minutes. This guy is a tough one and Sam is exemplary in her handling with him.
Oh he looks just like mine! Such a cutie
He is gorgeous! I truly admire your calm approach.
Do you notice a difference in his behaviour due to being a stud? Have you worked with stallions before?
I like how you handled the charge you were calm and collected which is a good thing, but you have to keep in mind you give respect to the horse the horse will give back respect. Another thing is that you have to remember to tell him hay I am here I am a part of your herd so when he charged you you could have tapped him harder like as if you were a horse and you said Hey my bubble stay out. other than that, thought you did amazing.
This could of been life changing if this handler didnt know what she was doing! I loved your energy even after!!!! Good Job! This guy will test his owner being a introvert type horse (rather not move type). Good Video!!!
Excellent. This is some good training on your part. Agree with comment made by Wells....maybe set a boundary line. I used to watch my dominant gelding set a boundary line with his pasture mate. I hope this horse has the surgery needed because he could be really dangerous with the wrong person. I can see him ending up at the kill pen. Anyway, well done. You have a lot of talent. Be careful. Old saying: Never turn your back on a stallion.
First, also a wild stallion?! I've heard stories about stallions 😬. But I know you'll do awesome!!
muito lindo seu trabalho , parabéns eu amo cavalos , gostaria d ter uns 5% do seu talento pra trabalhar com eles
I have a mare who won’t let me lunge her and I used to be timid well today I stood my ground kept calm and she backed off. She would lunge at me etc. I have also hired professional help. I know we have a lot of work ahead of us. I just got her in August. I need to work more on my confidence…but it is scary when they come at you.
I don't use the back up because...the only time a horse backs up is when it's respecting another. I would turn a little and divert eyes/head at least 45deg...step to the side if physical space is required...
I might use it if I'm trying to catch a brat haha; 1 step forward, half back or if I've put too much pressure on a horse too fast and it scared them.
Really well done.
Nice Harley Davidson shirt Iron horse and Equine Horse
can someone do a time stamp of when the charge was cus I didn't see it
Can you put a link to Roulette video where you say it was similar?
It was super nice to see you in Florida recently! Unfortunately we didn’t have time to stay and meet/talk with you!
Stallions want to be in charge at all times, just get him gelded asap. He seems to be a confident and smart guy, he has probably breed already by this age which makes him more challenging. I personally would have finished up at 10.45 because he was becoming irritated.
That’s the goal. To get him leading and handable to get him gelded ASAP.
@@loredelore7286 Maybe it’s just you . Not the stud. ( I owned stallions for 10 years without any bad experiences.) And I still own. But PETA next goal is to ban humans climbing on top of their backs. Welcome to 2021.
Giving an opinion does not mean a person is a hate
@@hazelwalker6570 I know exactly how most so-called “horse people “ ( Gelding fanatic nazis ) are especially nowadays that at the end of the day , they’re still hating stallions , they wish studs never existed and “horse people “ are discriminating against them ( they will tell to their kids and it will pass on and on and on until no stallion will be left standing by the end of the 21st first century or who knows when depending on the vegan virus ) just like people in the dog world that the breed of pit bulls or any type of bully breeds are also heavily targeted and hated due to their “bad” reputation. What’s going to happen to the horses in the future ? But guess what. PETA ( with their agendas) are in the process of obliterating all animal use in human relationship(s) and especially horseback riding because they believe “it’s a form of animal exploitation because they don’t give consent to humans to climb on their backs “ and animal rights extremists are preaching in public to fade away equestrianism.
@@trinityfarms9718 I've owned stallions for thirty years, and no its "not me" and no I am not wanting to ban humans getting on horses.