I wish I saw videos like these when I was training my Arab. So much of the things I saw were to chase the horse around until they were tired. That doesn't work with an endurance-bred horse! Finally saw a comment from a trainer that change of direction was more helpful. We finally started moving forward then. I am so excited for trainers like you who will be the inspiration of the next generation of horse people. I hope it will mean happier, humans and horses.
She exhibited dominant behaviour when fending of the charge: she stood her ground and lifted her arms up towards the charging horse! Without exhibiting dominant behaviour she would have been toasted!
Good on you Sam. Assertiveness and aggression are not the same thing. There are so many "macho" trainers who are generally male who seem to not know the difference. What also confuses them is the term Mustang. It happens to be Spanish ("mestengo") translated it means "wild (feral), with no master" because most of the wild horses that roam the Western United States descend from horses brought in by Spanish settlers. These horses were once domesticated then became feral, hence the word mustang. Glad you are a fan of Warwick Schiller, he is an outstanding horseman and educator and very informed horseman. Keep doing what you are doing, you a very clearly successful at it, and keep making videos.
Well said Sam, I think the person you made this for should be dually impressed. You may be young, and a girl - and english girl at that, haha... but you are a wonderful soul who always has the horses best interest at heart with the desire to learn, way to think like a horse! In many years from now, you are likely going to be one of the best mentors in horsemanship for the up coming equestrians. Until that day comes, know that you are doing leaps and bounds better than the last generation of male dominance and the corporal punishment philosophies. Arrogance is a deep fetter while humble servance is enlightening, you are on the right path my dear. So proud of your response.
I love Sam's method, everything she says in this video makes sense and is true. Not all mustangs run away and are scared of people. I recently adopted my first mustang (I'm 12) and she is really sweet and was never really very uncomfortable with people. And I really hate when people use too much pressure and are just bullying horse around. Just the other day I was watching my sister at a barrel racing lesson and the trainer was just continually spurring and yanking on the horses mouth, while the horse was visibly trying and not doing anything wrong. I love Sam's training and how she really does care about the horses🐴
That's great! I got my first mustang when I was 11 (I'm 14 rn) and I'm glad you can see that force isn't always the best way to go! I wish you and your mustang the best of luck, and a long and happy time together! 😁
Well handled, Sam. You are a class act. You're about the 3rd equestrian I follow who has been inappropriately "criticized" by Think Like A Horse. I agree with others on the topic; he is not worth any of your energy and if I gave it any thought at all would be to agree that he is a misogynist. I also think that the negative energy people on RUclips put out says a lot about them then those it is directed against. I have followed you for a couple of years now and have learned so much about subtle communication with horses. I also follow and adore Warwick Schiller -- he just keeps getting better and better and more philosophical and I find what he explores very interesting. I love his in-depth podcast interviews. I would love to hear you conversation with him someday. Just watched your second video with that handsome monorchid and can already see your experience working its magic with him. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us.
Oh my goodness yes the guy is completely anti woman. Did you hear him snap at his wife in the video about Sam? It was nasty. I always regret watching his videos when they pop up in my feed. Even when he is right about his main argument, unlike in this scenario, it’s aggravating to watch because he is rude and bullies instead of just sharing constructive criticism. Sam dealt with this much calmer than I would have.
Do not apologize for appearance. Your value has nothing to do with external primping. Besides, you look lovely; like a beautiful and busy young lady. You have great techniques with horses, too.
Your video landed with the wrong crowd and even if you'd increased pressure you would have been criticised. It's a testament of skill when you can be subtle and effective in pressure and your results speak for you. Thank you for continuing to share your training with us, love your attitude towards learning and horses.
the "wrong crowd"? come on, most people that guy makes fun of absolutely deserve it because they abuse horses. Sam really did a good job, she just doesn´t know everything there is to know yet and there´s no shame in that. We can all learn from our mistakes if we choose to.
@@clmcintify true, nobody knows everything. But the ones who are usually the loudest, like Sam here, are usually the ones who still have a lot to learn.
You have a wonderful instinct and way with the horses, in addition to being able to read them with an optimistic view. I love that you brought up Mustang Maddy and Warwick Schiller, too. They are both wonderful and share so many truly great insights. There is so much gained for the horse and people from this real connection in the moment. I see you diplomatically, optimistically, handling the commenters that charge at you, with the same grace and strength you handled Mojave's faux pas with. ;) Well done.
I love listening to the way you speak about horses and your methods to train them. It's just inspiring and your experience and horse knowledge always shows. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! 😊
@@mommahines2557 I hope to see her in CA sometime! Warwick is seriously such a good human. I live in CA & when we had really bad fires last summer he & Robyn opened there property up to evacuees’ animals/livestock, without hesitation 😊
I have been watching you for a while now and have watch your training syle I think you read the horses movements very well. I only want to thank you for showing me a different way to train a horse. Don't let the negative get to you. Keep doing what you do and thank you.
Great explanation of space control/respect for your space and the horse's space !!! And why you used the techniques you used with your horse. The proof is in the pudding - the horse didn't charge you again, he progressed from there throughout the session and at the end of the session both you and the horse were calm and relaxed, which is a great place to start your next session from! Very well done !!!
I love your training techniques, they create a relationship and I think that is really important. I hate the old school way of training, "breaking" a horse. It makes me sad seeing people who are not interested in understanding the animals they work with.
As you get more well known in any realm as a woman, people will have things to say about you and the things you do. You're an excellent horse trainer. Your clients, past employers, buyers, and horses know it. You have the mustangs in happy homes to prove it. People watch one video and think they're the expert. Keep doing good work, treating horses with respect and leadership, and being strong. We of course appreciate this further explaination as teaching. But these people who always have something to say don't want to learn. They just want to get under your skin or prove their point. Don't give them what they want 😎
Love Warwick schiller too and to see you acknowledge him. I appreciate how horse training is evolving. They communicate so clearly and honestly. You are always encouraging and thoughtful. Wishing you all the best
This is a very helpful video! It reinforces what I've been trying to change lately with how I work with my horse and letting go of certain techniques that I have found unnecessary. It is a great reminder of what I don't need to do anymore and encouraging to keep working on it!
Great explanation! I wish there were more "show horse" trainers in the stock breeds that followed these concepts instead of using so much intimidation. In the long run, you end up with a more trusting and confident horse.
I love this Sam, how you take the time to calmly explain your techniques. I also love the way you train horses. I’ve been watching you on here for a long time and I also was in your Virtual Liberty and Trick Training courses. I learn so much just by watching you and the horse interact. I’m studying the body language conversation between the both of you. I want to learn as much as I can about how the horse thinks and communicates, and also respond in a way that causes them to trust me. I also watch Warwick Schiller and several others and I try to learn from everyone I watch. You have a solid understanding of horse psychology and communication and I definitely want to learn everything I can from you. Everything I learned in the liberty and trick training has been SO much fun for my horse and me and I’m amazed how well we’re doing! I’m so looking forward to any more classes you have coming!
Me too, but I found that although I can lead my Mustangs I really hadn't broken down the steps enough to give them a good foundation so although I enjoyed the clinic I couldn't actually get to the trick training. I started over with poll releases, disengaging fore and hind quarters, however I'm thrilled my filly finally laid down on cue for the first time and my gelding for the second 😁. Thank you Sam!
Absolutely love the way you responded to the horse in the first place. I stand by the saying ‘it’s never the horses’ fault.’ It is true no matter what the horse has done. We as trainers, riders and anyone interacting with a horse generally expect something of said horse. To me horses only have one job, forage, move and socialize with other horses. Anything else is something we are asking them to do, not their job. I know many people who feel differently because their horse was “bred to do this one task” but the horse doesn’t know that. The horse doesn’t understand that. So if they make a mistake doing something we ask of them who are we to punish them for it? Show the horse the correct answer (you wouldn’t expect a child to understand a math test without teaching them math first) but do it in a way the horse understands (this does not mean with dominance or aggression). I am known to be “over the top” with this method because I don’t allow my students to ride with whips or spurs just to follow the latest trend. Love your videos and 100% agree with how you reacted, it’s something I think has to come with experience and I’m amazed at the achievements you’ve accomplished and I’m always eager to hear why you use a method, just makes me sad that instead of it being the norm you had people recommend such harsh treatment instead. Great job!
I would’ve used to been one to really get on a horse and assert my dominance in a situation like that, but in the past two years I’ve seen and learned the value of the relationship aspect of training horses and how a little can go a long ways. And that is largely due to one horse in particular who forced me to look for other answers, and thanks to some of the knowledge I’ve gleaned from Warwick. I will say that I probably still tend to avoid a mistake before it happens if I can, and not necessarily by correcting the horse but changing my method before there’s a negative response. But I can certainly see the value of allowing the horse to make mistakes as well. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series with this horse Sam!
People who talk aggressively tend to act in an aggressive manner towards ppl or animals. You are not an aggressive woman or trainer, so your response is going to be calm and instinctive. Your approach to the horse was to teach acceptable behavior, not discipline harshly, or exert dominance. That horse clearly got the message that lunging at you was unacceptable. The evidence of your positive actions can be seen in all the horses you worked with who went on to live in harmony with their ppl. In the Olympics, there was an incident where the horse refused to jump & the coach ordered the rider to hit him. The coach was removed from the team luckily.
For the people who believe in asserting dominance and being "the high horse": your horse will never see you as that because you are NOT a fecking horse.
I am glad you made this video.i am a new subscriber and I'm so glad I found your channel . I am 13 yo and hoping to train mustangs when I'm older so your channel has helped alot.amd I've also have started teaching my horse liberty by watching you. And i trained my first horse for my friend to sell but she wasn't a mustang
Hi, Sam! When I saw Rick had posted a video about you, my heart sank. I've been there before and had to work my tail off to climb out of the pit his following drug me down into. I know you're far too good of a person to say this, so I will. His opinions are toxic and damaging and I have heard him recommend that people hit and dominate their scared, confused horses far too many times. You have my full respect and support for standing up against it, and more people should, if only to help the horses that fall victim to the outdated and disproven dominance theory. Out of the 8 wild horses I have worked with, only 1 could not be approached and touched on the first day, although lately I've been allowing the horses all the time they need and making sure they know I hear them. Wild horses run from people that approach with an intention to dominate or control, which is why those people believe they can't be handled the first session. As social animals, they are very in-tune with our nervous systems. The need to dominate stems from fear and is manifested as anger. When we approach with anger or fear, our sympathetic nervous system is engaged, and the horses will respond by engaging their own to prepare to run or fight. It is an art to enter the pen with a dangerous animal and leave all of our anger and fear at the gate. There is no way to know everything before going in with a new horse. We learn and evolve as we go, through trial and error. I admire that you're always evolving as a trainer. Every horse teaches us something more. Who knows? Maybe sometimes a horse charging into the space that we offer is the first step to them getting over their fear of us, and it should be celebrated, not criticized. After all, the best way to help a horse overcome fear of an object is to have them follow it so they know it isn't a threat. Anyway, keep doing you. Love the new series! 🧡
The sixth sentence of your last paragraph is absolutely food for thought. I am terrified of heights so I stood at the edge of the Grand Canyon. I'm afraid of snakes so I went to repticon and touched one. Btw, LOVE your name.
@@lisazappolo9989 exactly! Horses handle fear no differently than we do, and when they make the decision to face their fears, it is far stronger than anything we force them to do.
I completely disagree. The best way to make a horse less fearful of something is to show them that you are not concerned by its presence. Disregard the source of fear and allow your horse to move away. We humans like to face our fears. It is a fight response. Horses have a flight response and forcing them into a fight response is very bad. Even though I did not see Rick Gore's critic of you... I understand why there was one from reading you. You have little knowledge of horses and you have little knowledge of "Think like a horse" content. You are completely misleading. You should perhaps inform yourself more prior to sharing your "wisdom" online.
@@fleetandfunfeet6818 You have jumped into the middle of a separate conversation here without facts necessary to come to an informed conclusion. Rick's critique said that she should have gone after the horse aggressively to put the fear of God in him. Sam did not. She did not react with either fear or anger. She made a correction and moved on. I've watched Think Like a Horse for 12 yrs. I agree with some and disagree with other content. Perhaps you should take your last sentence to heart. You have recently popped up giving opinions on everything. I appreciated your fluffle comment. We are all here to learn new things and share ideas. It's not all black and white. Thoughts, theories, and practices are all fluid and evolve. Sam's non-confrontational approach seemed to work. You are actually advocating for a fear based approach which Rick suggested. Food for thought.
@@lisazappolo9989 It seems like you have been reading me. I appreciate it. I do take my words at heart. I think Rick is just a far better teacher then Sam. That is what I am advocating for. If you think I want horses to fear me you are wrong. But I do agree with Rick that they should fear acting in an "aggressive" manner with me. Also, I have been taught to make my horses face they fears for years and the approach is simply wrong and makes the horses more flighty and scared. I put my poor horse brown through this and I had to do a lot of fixing of my own mistakes to do but now he is far more relaxed horse.
Thanks for doing a response Sam. I watched his video yesterday and like always he was more of a bully than constructive criticism. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen videos of his where he unneedingly insulted and bullied, woman in particular, instead of just sharing his opinion respectfully.
I commented this on your other video but I wanted to reiterate it here too. I too saw the think like a horse video and it really left a bad taste in my mouth. As a young female engineer who has worked with many older men, I immediately recognized the condescending and patronizing rhetoric. Assumptions were plentiful in that video, and they were all negative to boot. Assumptions based on one video. The comments were worse. I’m sorry you had to deal with that- as engineers we actually are not allowed to talk publicly and make assumptions about the work another engineer has done. Why? Because no matter your expertise, if you personally haven’t worked on the project then you don’t know the whole story. For example, You may think the other engineer over designed a bridge and did so to increase costs/revenue, but what you might not know is that there may have been other factors and/or assumptions made by the other engineer that you were not aware of that made him design it in such a way. By notifying the original engineer rather than immediately making a public statement, you are allowing the original engineer to defend themselves and explain their reasoning behind their design. Think like a horse could not even give you that mutual respect in the first place, and when you asked him to come to you first next time, he chose to ridicule you. Not making public statements before getting all the info is written in our code of ethics. Why? Because by reviewing and critiquing the other engineer publicly without their knowledge you undermine the credibility of the profession as a WHOLE. Anyways, sorry for my rant, it just really left a bad taste in my mouth and I personally found his video very unethical. It’s one thing to call out an abusive “trainer” who is endangering a horse. It’s another to sh*t on someone’s (nonabusive, morally sound) training methods just because it’s not your preferred method and you think only your way is the right way. Again, keep up the good work Sam. You are a great teacher and I’ve learned a lot from your videos. Relaxed and calm redirection has made training SO MUCH easier for my mustang. I don’t think aggressive correction is the way to go with mustangs and some horses, some will get very aggressive if they feel threatened or cornered, they do not have learned helplessness (which is good).
Really appreciate this info about engineers. I am a Software Engineer and we don't have that practice but could use it... Yes, couldn't agree more....his initial video was one thing, he was just expressing his point of view, but the way the subsequent rest of it was handled was so lacking in integrity, self introspection and frankly class...unfortunately, white male privilege is very pervasive and it is important as women to recognize it so as not to buy into it (and support each other)...this is a non-reactive, merely informative response that I think is great. I will say something positive about him as I like to do that as a general rule if I point out something negative...for a 'macho' kind of personal style I really appreciate that he is anti-bit, abuse and so forth...and appears to treat his own animals very well. We are starting to learn so much now about 'natural' horsemanship and it keeps evolving. I like Buck Brannaman's philosophy of 'How can I get the point across with the least amount (if any) discomfort to the horse...(paraphrasing)..it appears Sam is aligned with that principle. The results will tell as they already have and you will learn more the more horses you work with. Keep going!!! It is just great you are a young woman trainer with your own channel with a mission to continue growing and helping horses. Your influence will grow if that is what you want...you seem to be doing all the right things and your intent seems to be straight. And horses, of course, thus help people.
I wonder if he came from H Alan Day’s old sanctuary? ( brother of Retired Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O’Connor) . It was called “ Mustang Meadows” near St Francis South Dakota. he wrote a book “the Horse Lover” which chronicles the his purchase and creation of the sanctuary in SD. (My mom dated Alan for a while, that’s how I know about it) PS: I love that you quote from Warwick’s article- he is really doing amazing work on connection. Brilliant and lovely horseman
Don’t give that goofball ‘Rick’ from Think Like A Horse one ounce of credit for anything he says. I’ve seen enough of his videos to know he cannot stand women, he knows very little about horses, and he’s an egotistical, self centered, internet bully. Keep up your great work Sam - you are an inspiration and a true “HORSEMAN” / “HORSEWOMAN” the term is interchangeable. Love your positivity!!!
I actually used to watch his videos back in the day, I liked him "taking down" obviously bad trainers and dumb videos... but I very quickly noticed how frequently he'd say things like "these women" and now the term "barn witches"... gonna be a yikes from me. He can say all day that he doesn't have a problem with women in general, but his behavior and language when talking about them absolutely tells a different story. He just seems like yet another Cowboy Man who thinks you need to dominate an animal and teach them "who's in charge" in order to be able to work with them, except instead of just being a dude at a horse show you meet in passing, he's got a youtube channel and a posse, and he's very loud about it lol. Even if his ideas have credibility at times, his language and attitude toward women ruins the whole thing for me.
LOL.... Rick Gore has much horse knowledge but you cannot see past your feelings. Yet you attack him with words and are more guilty then he at conducting wrongful accusations. Interesting, ... . "Positive and feeling based Talk" does not equate positive behaviour. Keep that in mind and try and not to be tricked out of good reason.
@@fleetandfunfeet6818 LMAO! If you think Rick Gore has “much horse knowledge” you haven’t been around horses for very long. I remember a ways back when he had the gall to comment on Buck Brannaman’s training methods and philosophy - Rick Gore putting down BUCK BRANNAMAN ! If you don’t know who Buck is… Google it. … or rent the movie ‘Buck’ or better yet, attend his clinics like I do. I’ve heard Rick use the term “slap ‘em like a red headed step child” while putting down women who might be using a pink bucket or maybe wearing a pink t-shirt or using a pink halter - this, from a retired cop??? What kind of cop was he??? You keep watching Rick - learn how to ignore the symptoms of a horse in terrible distress (too late to call a vet) before it dies. Learn how to corral your horses with barbed wire. Learn how to loose tie your horses so they can get tangled up. Learn how to mispronounce BANAMINE - and not know how to administer it. Learn how NOT to trim a horse barefoot. Learn how not to recognize lameness. I can go on - but I’m done with that chauvinistic asshole. There are waaaaaay better RUclips horse coaches. Check out Samantha Harvey, et al …
He used the word "attacking", you said "charging" and I say "challenged". I have been attacked by a stud - ears pinned, teeth bared, snaking on the approach at a run. (What did *I* do wrong? Tried to break up a stallion fight and the aggression got redirected at me- my mistake.) Your reaction to the challenge and a comment here by one of your viewers (Break the habit not the horse) have given me food for thought regarding a challenge. Don't get me wrong, if ever attacked again, I will be looking for a bazooka and saying, "Feet don't fail me now." ;-)
This is a bit off topic for this post, but I'm hoping you can answer it. I attended a Mustang Madness event. I looked seriously at a yearling filly but I wasn't sure when she would be ready to begin liberty training. I am only planning to do groundwork, not riding. Can you give me some guidance? Looking back I should have just bid on her. She's gorgeous and will make someone a wonderful horse. Anyway, what is a good age to begin Liberty training groundwork?
I actually enjoyed very much the video in which the stallion has charged you: one can rarely see such a situation and you handled it perfectly! Congratulations! That being said, though, I am still not convinced about the unnecessary aspect of dominating the horse. You see, horses are herd animals with a strict hierarchy and as such, they either seek leadership from the trainer or want to dominate the trainer when encountering the trainer as a potential herd member. Now, you may opt to seek EQUALITY in your training approach, but I am afraid that this would not cater to the greatest need of the animal that is SAFETY. I believe that any horse would seek leadership upon meeting a trainer and upon finding it, the horse would be much more cooperative in learning since a renewed sense of safety would be conducive to learning. Occasionally, stallions would even try to dominate the trainer and allowing this would never be a great idea. From the point of view of a stallion, there is either dominance or submission - there is no other way. But to avoid confusion, the kind of dominance provided by a trainer does not have to be the same type of dominance exposed by another stallion: a trainer could just provide strong leadership - loving behaviour combined with strong and firm handling of the horse, should it be necessary based on the horse's behaviour. (Strong/firm = taking charge at times, when the horse reflects your hesitance by mirroring a hesitant - or at times dominant - behaviour himself).
Actually, you did expose dominant behaviour while handling the unexpected charge successfully, which seems to underpin my explanation above. Have you thought about that? P.S. Standing your ground and lifting your arms towards the charging horse was actually a dominant behaviour. That's why he backed off: you passed his test - he accepted you as the dominant individual in the relationship.
Hey i just got a mustang yearling 2 weeks ago and i have touched him and he would follow you around wanting more loves and we started working on leading 4 days ago and he figured it out really quickly but yesterday he stoped letting me touch him i know your probably really busy but and suggestions on what to do?This is my first time training a horse
Best advice is to find a trainer near you who works with skittish or reactive horses (since they are generally more understanding of the horse) or a mustang trainer (there are EMM and TIP trainers just like Sam in every state) that can help you in person, locally to you. That way not only will your mustang be getting training, but you will learn along the way with him.
@@loune3799 I have got the problem of him letting me touch him fix i sat out in the pen with him and some grain and that seem to fix that. I can brush on his neck with a brush he really likes that he is just not big on his face being touched. I had a halter put on him when we picked him up. But with his face being a sensitize area is making working on leading kind of hard. And i had looked into a tip trainer but they are kind of far from me.
Been watching for awhile now and learnt a lot. We are bout to get another horse that was basically ignored by her owner and she got really fat. Anyone got a good weight loss plan I can use? Advice needed.
@@sshepard5222 Every vet has a different plan too. Was just seeing what people here used that actually worked. We pick her up today and the work begins.
@@TheSweezer You want this information from your vet specifically because they will notice whether your horse has any markers for laminitis or founder beginning from obesity. You should get blood tests done to see what your horses diet potentially has too much or too little in minerals and vitamins and it will give information back as well whether her organs are functioning correctly. Horse's being overweight is far more dangerous to their health than being underweight and like people you shouldn't just say throw them into an intensive workout routine or change their diet drastically until you know what's going on internally with them. You should also look at what that old owner was feeding and how much and only introduce new foods slowly so their gut can adjust to stop colicing. I say this as an ex equine vet nurse of several years, asking strangers instead of a vet who can properly look at all the factors is a dangerous idea. Please consult a vet because horses and quick diet changes can sometimes end in death if not done correctly
@@sshepard5222 OMG please stop. The horse was in the pasture for years and just ate herself fat She wasnt on grain or any supplements at all. Its owner thought of the horse as a kid not a horse and didnt understand nor care to work her. The vet as you like to push said she was healthy. We had a vet look at her because we DO NOT take horses without a PPE. The VET, as you like to push, said to just work her. She is fine, she doesnt have laminitis or isnt foundering and the sky isnt falling. Shes just fat because fo a lazy owner. Now again I am asking for others experiences and how they got the weight off. Shes about 200lbs overweight. There is no intensive workout plan scheduled. No need to worse case scenario. She has been vetted and we arent stupid so I humbly ask you to offer a plan or move along. Please.
@@TheSweezer Then why didn't you give even a shred of background on the horse, you never mentioned you've seen a vet, you've never mentioned it was a horse on pasture, you never mentioned anything except wanting advice for getting weight off and when someone mentions to seek vet advice first as a caution you get completely overblown.
Hitting them in the head only makes them headshy. No one should do that approach. Not to mention with some horses (especially studs) if you get aggressive, they get aggressive. Side note: If he's wild and has mustang parents, he's still a wild mustang. Being wild and federally owned and branded isn't what makes them mustangs.
OMG Wat??? Someone actually suggested that you HIT HIM IN THE HEAD WITH THE STICK???? Grrr that really upsets me. FFS. I like that you stood your ground and kept calm.
I wish I saw videos like these when I was training my Arab. So much of the things I saw were to chase the horse around until they were tired. That doesn't work with an endurance-bred horse! Finally saw a comment from a trainer that change of direction was more helpful. We finally started moving forward then. I am so excited for trainers like you who will be the inspiration of the next generation of horse people. I hope it will mean happier, humans and horses.
Well said... You are wise beyond your years. You speak the truth saturated in love and grace.
Your energy is so calm and direct. You explain things so well. Truly an inspiration. Cheers from Montreal in Canada!
She exhibited dominant behaviour when fending of the charge: she stood her ground and lifted her arms up towards the charging horse! Without exhibiting dominant behaviour she would have been toasted!
Good on you Sam. Assertiveness and aggression are not the same thing. There are so many "macho" trainers who are generally male who seem to not know the difference. What also confuses them is the term Mustang. It happens to be Spanish ("mestengo") translated it means "wild (feral), with no master" because most of the wild horses that roam the Western United States descend from horses brought in by Spanish settlers. These horses were once domesticated then became feral, hence the word mustang. Glad you are a fan of Warwick Schiller, he is an outstanding horseman and educator and very informed horseman. Keep doing what you are doing, you a very clearly successful at it, and keep making videos.
Well said Sam, I think the person you made this for should be dually impressed. You may be young, and a girl - and english girl at that, haha... but you are a wonderful soul who always has the horses best interest at heart with the desire to learn, way to think like a horse! In many years from now, you are likely going to be one of the best mentors in horsemanship for the up coming equestrians. Until that day comes, know that you are doing leaps and bounds better than the last generation of male dominance and the corporal punishment philosophies. Arrogance is a deep fetter while humble servance is enlightening, you are on the right path my dear. So proud of your response.
If "the person" you made this for would have waited another 5 seconds he could explain the direction change. That was your other correction.
And well said also in this comment ! My thoughts exactly!!
IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE PEACE WITH YOURSELF AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS. KEEP ON KEEPING ON.
I love Sam's method, everything she says in this video makes sense and is true. Not all mustangs run away and are scared of people. I recently adopted my first mustang (I'm 12) and she is really sweet and was never really very uncomfortable with people. And I really hate when people use too much pressure and are just bullying horse around. Just the other day I was watching my sister at a barrel racing lesson and the trainer was just continually spurring and yanking on the horses mouth, while the horse was visibly trying and not doing anything wrong.
I love Sam's training and how she really does care about the horses🐴
Good for you for noticing the horses discomfort in the lesson with your sisters trainer. Especially being only 12!
That's great! I got my first mustang when I was 11 (I'm 14 rn) and I'm glad you can see that force isn't always the best way to go! I wish you and your mustang the best of luck, and a long and happy time together! 😁
Well handled, Sam. You are a class act. You're about the 3rd equestrian I follow who has been inappropriately "criticized" by Think Like A Horse. I agree with others on the topic; he is not worth any of your energy and if I gave it any thought at all would be to agree that he is a misogynist. I also think that the negative energy people on RUclips put out says a lot about them then those it is directed against. I have followed you for a couple of years now and have learned so much about subtle communication with horses. I also follow and adore Warwick Schiller -- he just keeps getting better and better and more philosophical and I find what he explores very interesting. I love his in-depth podcast interviews. I would love to hear you conversation with him someday. Just watched your second video with that handsome monorchid and can already see your experience working its magic with him. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us.
Oh my goodness yes the guy is completely anti woman. Did you hear him snap at his wife in the video about Sam? It was nasty. I always regret watching his videos when they pop up in my feed. Even when he is right about his main argument, unlike in this scenario, it’s aggravating to watch because he is rude and bullies instead of just sharing constructive criticism. Sam dealt with this much calmer than I would have.
Same 💕
And same!
@@amechelb He snapped at his wife??
@@CanadianWhatever Right? I want to hear more about that, but don’t want to give him attention by watching his videos.
Do not apologize for appearance. Your value has nothing to do with external primping. Besides, you look lovely; like a beautiful and busy young lady.
You have great techniques with horses, too.
Your video landed with the wrong crowd and even if you'd increased pressure you would have been criticised. It's a testament of skill when you can be subtle and effective in pressure and your results speak for you. Thank you for continuing to share your training with us, love your attitude towards learning and horses.
the "wrong crowd"? come on, most people that guy makes fun of absolutely deserve it because they abuse horses. Sam really did a good job, she just doesn´t know everything there is to know yet and there´s no shame in that. We can all learn from our mistakes if we choose to.
@@wolfsmaid6815 No body knows everything there is to know. No "yet" about it. That guy was just a Jerk who didn't do his research.
@@clmcintify true, nobody knows everything. But the ones who are usually the loudest, like Sam here, are usually the ones who still have a lot to learn.
You have a wonderful instinct and way with the horses, in addition to being able to read them with an optimistic view. I love that you brought up Mustang Maddy and Warwick Schiller, too. They are both wonderful and share so many truly great insights. There is so much gained for the horse and people from this real connection in the moment. I see you diplomatically, optimistically, handling the commenters that charge at you, with the same grace and strength you handled Mojave's faux pas with. ;) Well done.
I love listening to the way you speak about horses and your methods to train them. It's just inspiring and your experience and horse knowledge always shows. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! 😊
Too bad you have to ask people to be nice. You did a great job with your subtleness; just like you do with the horses! Love your videos!
I think it would be so cool if you & Warwick Schiller could do a clinic together someday.
Yesssss for sure!
@@mommahines2557 I hope to see her in CA sometime! Warwick is seriously such a good human. I live in CA & when we had really bad fires last summer he & Robyn opened there property up to evacuees’ animals/livestock, without hesitation 😊
I have been watching you for a while now and have watch your training syle I think you read the horses movements very well. I only want to thank you for showing me a different way to train a horse. Don't let the negative get to you. Keep doing what you do and thank you.
Great explanation of space control/respect for your space and the horse's space !!! And why you used the techniques you used with your horse. The proof is in the pudding - the horse didn't charge you again, he progressed from there throughout the session and at the end of the session both you and the horse were calm and relaxed, which is a great place to start your next session from! Very well done !!!
Appreciate your confidence, and calm, professional manner and techniques. Keep on, keeping on.
I love your training techniques, they create a relationship and I think that is really important. I hate the old school way of training, "breaking" a horse. It makes me sad seeing people who are not interested in understanding the animals they work with.
Sam. Your confidence and actual success is all the explanation you need.
You are an incredible trainer and inspired me to do my first makeover! I love your videos, keep up the good work!
As you get more well known in any realm as a woman, people will have things to say about you and the things you do. You're an excellent horse trainer. Your clients, past employers, buyers, and horses know it. You have the mustangs in happy homes to prove it. People watch one video and think they're the expert. Keep doing good work, treating horses with respect and leadership, and being strong. We of course appreciate this further explaination as teaching. But these people who always have something to say don't want to learn. They just want to get under your skin or prove their point. Don't give them what they want 😎
Love Warwick schiller too and to see you acknowledge him. I appreciate how horse training is evolving. They communicate so clearly and honestly. You are always encouraging and thoughtful. Wishing you all the best
This is a very helpful video! It reinforces what I've been trying to change lately with how I work with my horse and letting go of certain techniques that I have found unnecessary. It is a great reminder of what I don't need to do anymore and encouraging to keep working on it!
Wonderful!!! Well said. Always impressed!
Great explanation! I wish there were more "show horse" trainers in the stock breeds that followed these concepts instead of using so much intimidation. In the long run, you end up with a more trusting and confident horse.
You are an absolute legend 💛😊
I love this Sam, how you take the time to calmly explain your techniques. I also love the way you train horses. I’ve been watching you on here for a long time and I also was in your Virtual Liberty and Trick Training courses. I learn so much just by watching you and the horse interact. I’m studying the body language conversation between the both of you. I want to learn as much as I can about how the horse thinks and communicates, and also respond in a way that causes them to trust me. I also watch Warwick Schiller and several others and I try to learn from everyone I watch. You have a solid understanding of horse psychology and communication and I definitely want to learn everything I can from you. Everything I learned in the liberty and trick training has been SO much fun for my horse and me and I’m amazed how well we’re doing! I’m so looking forward to any more classes you have coming!
Me too, but I found that although I can lead my Mustangs I really hadn't broken down the steps enough to give them a good foundation so although I enjoyed the clinic I couldn't actually get to the trick training. I started over with poll releases, disengaging fore and hind quarters, however I'm thrilled my filly finally laid down on cue for the first time and my gelding for the second 😁. Thank you Sam!
Absolutely love the way you responded to the horse in the first place. I stand by the saying ‘it’s never the horses’ fault.’ It is true no matter what the horse has done. We as trainers, riders and anyone interacting with a horse generally expect something of said horse. To me horses only have one job, forage, move and socialize with other horses. Anything else is something we are asking them to do, not their job. I know many people who feel differently because their horse was “bred to do this one task” but the horse doesn’t know that. The horse doesn’t understand that. So if they make a mistake doing something we ask of them who are we to punish them for it? Show the horse the correct answer (you wouldn’t expect a child to understand a math test without teaching them math first) but do it in a way the horse understands (this does not mean with dominance or aggression). I am known to be “over the top” with this method because I don’t allow my students to ride with whips or spurs just to follow the latest trend. Love your videos and 100% agree with how you reacted, it’s something I think has to come with experience and I’m amazed at the achievements you’ve accomplished and I’m always eager to hear why you use a method, just makes me sad that instead of it being the norm you had people recommend such harsh treatment instead. Great job!
I would’ve used to been one to really get on a horse and assert my dominance in a situation like that, but in the past two years I’ve seen and learned the value of the relationship aspect of training horses and how a little can go a long ways. And that is largely due to one horse in particular who forced me to look for other answers, and thanks to some of the knowledge I’ve gleaned from Warwick.
I will say that I probably still tend to avoid a mistake before it happens if I can, and not necessarily by correcting the horse but changing my method before there’s a negative response. But I can certainly see the value of allowing the horse to make mistakes as well.
Looking forward to watching the rest of the series with this horse Sam!
Very interesting 👍
Well said!
Great video.. Knowledge is a choice! Just because it was always done a certain way doesn't meant it is the ONLY or right way
Really respect and appreciate you making this video mostly to clarify your training techniques. Yes, lets's see what the results are in the end :)
Keep doin ur thang girly! 💜
People who talk aggressively tend to act in an aggressive manner towards ppl or animals. You are not an aggressive woman or trainer, so your response is going to be calm and instinctive. Your approach to the horse was to teach acceptable behavior, not discipline harshly, or exert dominance. That horse clearly got the message that lunging at you was unacceptable. The evidence of your positive actions can be seen in all the horses you worked with who went on to live in harmony with their ppl. In the Olympics, there was an incident where the horse refused to jump & the coach ordered the rider to hit him. The coach was removed from the team luckily.
For the people who believe in asserting dominance and being "the high horse": your horse will never see you as that because you are NOT a fecking horse.
true. but your animals can see if you´re an easily manipulated pushover or not. (not saying that she is)
I understand completely and thanks for sharing. I love your methods girl!!!
I am glad you made this video.i am a new subscriber and I'm so glad I found your channel . I am 13 yo and hoping to train mustangs when I'm older so your channel has helped alot.amd I've also have started teaching my horse liberty by watching you. And i trained my first horse for my friend to sell but she wasn't a mustang
great seeing such a young trainer with a clam, cool, kind, smart demeanor. Thank you you for Shairing!
Hi, Sam! When I saw Rick had posted a video about you, my heart sank. I've been there before and had to work my tail off to climb out of the pit his following drug me down into. I know you're far too good of a person to say this, so I will. His opinions are toxic and damaging and I have heard him recommend that people hit and dominate their scared, confused horses far too many times. You have my full respect and support for standing up against it, and more people should, if only to help the horses that fall victim to the outdated and disproven dominance theory.
Out of the 8 wild horses I have worked with, only 1 could not be approached and touched on the first day, although lately I've been allowing the horses all the time they need and making sure they know I hear them. Wild horses run from people that approach with an intention to dominate or control, which is why those people believe they can't be handled the first session. As social animals, they are very in-tune with our nervous systems. The need to dominate stems from fear and is manifested as anger. When we approach with anger or fear, our sympathetic nervous system is engaged, and the horses will respond by engaging their own to prepare to run or fight. It is an art to enter the pen with a dangerous animal and leave all of our anger and fear at the gate.
There is no way to know everything before going in with a new horse. We learn and evolve as we go, through trial and error. I admire that you're always evolving as a trainer. Every horse teaches us something more. Who knows? Maybe sometimes a horse charging into the space that we offer is the first step to them getting over their fear of us, and it should be celebrated, not criticized. After all, the best way to help a horse overcome fear of an object is to have them follow it so they know it isn't a threat. Anyway, keep doing you. Love the new series! 🧡
The sixth sentence of your last paragraph is absolutely food for thought. I am terrified of heights so I stood at the edge of the Grand Canyon. I'm afraid of snakes so I went to repticon and touched one. Btw, LOVE your name.
@@lisazappolo9989 exactly! Horses handle fear no differently than we do, and when they make the decision to face their fears, it is far stronger than anything we force them to do.
I completely disagree. The best way to make a horse less fearful of something is to show them that you are not concerned by its presence. Disregard the source of fear and allow your horse to move away. We humans like to face our fears. It is a fight response. Horses have a flight response and forcing them into a fight response is very bad. Even though I did not see Rick Gore's critic of you... I understand why there was one from reading you. You have little knowledge of horses and you have little knowledge of "Think like a horse" content. You are completely misleading. You should perhaps inform yourself more prior to sharing your "wisdom" online.
@@fleetandfunfeet6818 You have jumped into the middle of a separate conversation here without facts necessary to come to an informed conclusion. Rick's critique said that she should have gone after the horse aggressively to put the fear of God in him. Sam did not. She did not react with either fear or anger. She made a correction and moved on. I've watched Think Like a Horse for 12 yrs. I agree with some and disagree with other content. Perhaps you should take your last sentence to heart. You have recently popped up giving opinions on everything. I appreciated your fluffle comment. We are all here to learn new things and share ideas. It's not all black and white. Thoughts, theories, and practices are all fluid and evolve. Sam's non-confrontational approach seemed to work. You are actually advocating for a fear based approach which Rick suggested. Food for thought.
@@lisazappolo9989 It seems like you have been reading me. I appreciate it. I do take my words at heart. I think Rick is just a far better teacher then Sam. That is what I am advocating for. If you think I want horses to fear me you are wrong. But I do agree with Rick that they should fear acting in an "aggressive" manner with me. Also, I have been taught to make my horses face they fears for years and the approach is simply wrong and makes the horses more flighty and scared. I put my poor horse brown through this and I had to do a lot of fixing of my own mistakes to do but now he is far more relaxed horse.
I usually use the join up when I go to catch my arabian mare in the pasture and it works for us.
Love you Sam.
I love watching your videos!
Thanks for doing a response Sam. I watched his video yesterday and like always he was more of a bully than constructive criticism. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen videos of his where he unneedingly insulted and bullied, woman in particular, instead of just sharing his opinion respectfully.
You are a wonderful horse trainer!
I think you did perfect 🥰. You're Awesome and Amazing 👏❤
I commented this on your other video but I wanted to reiterate it here too.
I too saw the think like a horse video and it really left a bad taste in my mouth. As a young female engineer who has worked with many older men, I immediately recognized the condescending and patronizing rhetoric. Assumptions were plentiful in that video, and they were all negative to boot. Assumptions based on one video. The comments were worse.
I’m sorry you had to deal with that- as engineers we actually are not allowed to talk publicly and make assumptions about the work another engineer has done. Why? Because no matter your expertise, if you personally haven’t worked on the project then you don’t know the whole story. For example, You may think the other engineer over designed a bridge and did so to increase costs/revenue, but what you might not know is that there may have been other factors and/or assumptions made by the other engineer that you were not aware of that made him design it in such a way. By notifying the original engineer rather than immediately making a public statement, you are allowing the original engineer to defend themselves and explain their reasoning behind their design. Think like a horse could not even give you that mutual respect in the first place, and when you asked him to come to you first next time, he chose to ridicule you.
Not making public statements before getting all the info is written in our code of ethics. Why? Because by reviewing and critiquing the other engineer publicly without their knowledge you undermine the credibility of the profession as a WHOLE.
Anyways, sorry for my rant, it just really left a bad taste in my mouth and I personally found his video very unethical. It’s one thing to call out an abusive “trainer” who is endangering a horse. It’s another to sh*t on someone’s (nonabusive, morally sound) training methods just because it’s not your preferred method and you think only your way is the right way.
Again, keep up the good work Sam. You are a great teacher and I’ve learned a lot from your videos. Relaxed and calm redirection has made training SO MUCH easier for my mustang. I don’t think aggressive correction is the way to go with mustangs and some horses, some will get very aggressive if they feel threatened or cornered, they do not have learned helplessness (which is good).
I quit thinking like a horse long ago.
@@jabrams875 ME TO !!!
Really appreciate this info about engineers. I am a Software Engineer and we don't have that practice but could use it...
Yes, couldn't agree more....his initial video was one thing, he was just expressing his point of view, but the way the subsequent rest of it was handled was so lacking in integrity, self introspection and frankly class...unfortunately, white male privilege is very pervasive and it is important as women to recognize it so as not to buy into it (and support each other)...this is a non-reactive, merely informative response that I think is great. I will say something positive about him as I like to do that as a general rule if I point out something negative...for a 'macho' kind of personal style I really appreciate that he is anti-bit, abuse and so forth...and appears to treat his own animals very well.
We are starting to learn so much now about 'natural' horsemanship and it keeps evolving. I like Buck Brannaman's philosophy of 'How can I get the point across with the least amount (if any) discomfort to the horse...(paraphrasing)..it appears Sam is aligned with that principle. The results will tell as they already have and you will learn more the more horses you work with.
Keep going!!! It is just great you are a young woman trainer with your own channel with a mission to continue growing and helping horses. Your influence will grow if that is what you want...you seem to be doing all the right things and your intent seems to be straight.
And horses, of course, thus help people.
Well said and explained 😉
❤
Amen !
I wonder if he came from H Alan Day’s old sanctuary? ( brother of Retired Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O’Connor) . It was called “ Mustang Meadows” near St Francis South Dakota. he wrote a book “the Horse Lover” which chronicles the his purchase and creation of the sanctuary in SD. (My mom dated Alan for a while, that’s how I know about it)
PS: I love that you quote from Warwick’s article- he is really doing amazing work on connection. Brilliant and lovely horseman
Don’t give that goofball ‘Rick’ from Think Like A Horse one ounce of credit for anything he says. I’ve seen enough of his videos to know he cannot stand women, he knows very little about horses, and he’s an egotistical, self centered, internet bully. Keep up your great work Sam - you are an inspiration and a true “HORSEMAN” / “HORSEWOMAN” the term is interchangeable. Love your positivity!!!
Booom! I agree. Sami’s track record speaks for itself.
Exactly Sharon !! My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!
I actually used to watch his videos back in the day, I liked him "taking down" obviously bad trainers and dumb videos... but I very quickly noticed how frequently he'd say things like "these women" and now the term "barn witches"... gonna be a yikes from me. He can say all day that he doesn't have a problem with women in general, but his behavior and language when talking about them absolutely tells a different story. He just seems like yet another Cowboy Man who thinks you need to dominate an animal and teach them "who's in charge" in order to be able to work with them, except instead of just being a dude at a horse show you meet in passing, he's got a youtube channel and a posse, and he's very loud about it lol.
Even if his ideas have credibility at times, his language and attitude toward women ruins the whole thing for me.
LOL.... Rick Gore has much horse knowledge but you cannot see past your feelings. Yet you attack him with words and are more guilty then he at conducting wrongful accusations. Interesting, ... . "Positive and feeling based Talk" does not equate positive behaviour. Keep that in mind and try and not to be tricked out of good reason.
@@fleetandfunfeet6818 LMAO! If you think Rick Gore has “much horse knowledge” you haven’t been around horses for very long. I remember a ways back when he had the gall to comment on Buck Brannaman’s training methods and philosophy - Rick Gore putting down BUCK BRANNAMAN !
If you don’t know who Buck is… Google it. … or rent the movie ‘Buck’ or better yet, attend his clinics like I do.
I’ve heard Rick use the term “slap ‘em like a red headed step child” while putting down women who might be using a pink bucket or maybe wearing a pink t-shirt or using a pink halter - this, from a retired cop??? What kind of cop was he???
You keep watching Rick - learn how to ignore the symptoms of a horse in terrible distress (too late to call a vet) before it dies. Learn how to corral your horses with barbed wire. Learn how to loose tie your horses so they can get tangled up. Learn how to mispronounce BANAMINE - and not know how to administer it. Learn how NOT to trim a horse barefoot. Learn how not to recognize lameness. I can go on - but I’m done with that chauvinistic asshole. There are waaaaaay better RUclips horse coaches. Check out Samantha Harvey, et al …
Your doing just fine and yea i know of some people who hit there horse in the head and then they became head shy .
Hiya still love your videos, your honourable, intelligent and gracious. 😊 BTW what nail polish are you wearing? Is it cyantififc? 💽 🌮
He used the word "attacking", you said "charging" and I say "challenged". I have been attacked by a stud - ears pinned, teeth bared, snaking on the approach at a run. (What did *I* do wrong? Tried to break up a stallion fight and the aggression got redirected at me- my mistake.) Your reaction to the challenge and a comment here by one of your viewers (Break the habit not the horse) have given me food for thought regarding a challenge. Don't get me wrong, if ever attacked again, I will be looking for a bazooka and saying, "Feet don't fail me now." ;-)
You look great
This is a bit off topic for this post, but I'm hoping you can answer it. I attended a Mustang Madness event. I looked seriously at a yearling filly but I wasn't sure when she would be ready to begin liberty training. I am only planning to do groundwork, not riding. Can you give me some guidance? Looking back I should have just bid on her. She's gorgeous and will make someone a wonderful horse. Anyway, what is a good age to begin Liberty training groundwork?
I actually enjoyed very much the video in which the stallion has charged you: one can rarely see such a situation and you handled it perfectly! Congratulations! That being said, though, I am still not convinced about the unnecessary aspect of dominating the horse. You see, horses are herd animals with a strict hierarchy and as such, they either seek leadership from the trainer or want to dominate the trainer when encountering the trainer as a potential herd member. Now, you may opt to seek EQUALITY in your training approach, but I am afraid that this would not cater to the greatest need of the animal that is SAFETY. I believe that any horse would seek leadership upon meeting a trainer and upon finding it, the horse would be much more cooperative in learning since a renewed sense of safety would be conducive to learning. Occasionally, stallions would even try to dominate the trainer and allowing this would never be a great idea. From the point of view of a stallion, there is either dominance or submission - there is no other way. But to avoid confusion, the kind of dominance provided by a trainer does not have to be the same type of dominance exposed by another stallion: a trainer could just provide strong leadership - loving behaviour combined with strong and firm handling of the horse, should it be necessary based on the horse's behaviour. (Strong/firm = taking charge at times, when the horse reflects your hesitance by mirroring a hesitant - or at times dominant - behaviour himself).
Actually, you did expose dominant behaviour while handling the unexpected charge successfully, which seems to underpin my explanation above. Have you thought about that? P.S. Standing your ground and lifting your arms towards the charging horse was actually a dominant behaviour. That's why he backed off: you passed his test - he accepted you as the dominant individual in the relationship.
Hey i just got a mustang yearling 2 weeks ago and i have touched him and he would follow you around wanting more loves and we started working on leading 4 days ago and he figured it out really quickly but yesterday he stoped letting me touch him i know your probably really busy but and suggestions on what to do?This is my first time training a horse
Best advice is to find a trainer near you who works with skittish or reactive horses (since they are generally more understanding of the horse) or a mustang trainer (there are EMM and TIP trainers just like Sam in every state) that can help you in person, locally to you. That way not only will your mustang be getting training, but you will learn along the way with him.
@@loune3799 I have got the problem of him letting me touch him fix i sat out in the pen with him and some grain and that seem to fix that. I can brush on his neck with a brush he really likes that he is just not big on his face being touched. I had a halter put on him when we picked him up. But with his face being a sensitize area is making working on leading kind of hard. And i had looked into a tip trainer but they are kind of far from me.
Been watching for awhile now and learnt a lot. We are bout to get another horse that was basically ignored by her owner and she got really fat. Anyone got a good weight loss plan I can use? Advice needed.
Speak to your vet directly, they will give much better advice for your horse specifically than people on the internet ever could.
@@sshepard5222 Every vet has a different plan too. Was just seeing what people here used that actually worked. We pick her up today and the work begins.
@@TheSweezer You want this information from your vet specifically because they will notice whether your horse has any markers for laminitis or founder beginning from obesity. You should get blood tests done to see what your horses diet potentially has too much or too little in minerals and vitamins and it will give information back as well whether her organs are functioning correctly.
Horse's being overweight is far more dangerous to their health than being underweight and like people you shouldn't just say throw them into an intensive workout routine or change their diet drastically until you know what's going on internally with them.
You should also look at what that old owner was feeding and how much and only introduce new foods slowly so their gut can adjust to stop colicing.
I say this as an ex equine vet nurse of several years, asking strangers instead of a vet who can properly look at all the factors is a dangerous idea.
Please consult a vet because horses and quick diet changes can sometimes end in death if not done correctly
@@sshepard5222 OMG please stop. The horse was in the pasture for years and just ate herself fat She wasnt on grain or any supplements at all. Its owner thought of the horse as a kid not a horse and didnt understand nor care to work her. The vet as you like to push said she was healthy. We had a vet look at her because we DO NOT take horses without a PPE. The VET, as you like to push, said to just work her. She is fine, she doesnt have laminitis or isnt foundering and the sky isnt falling. Shes just fat because fo a lazy owner.
Now again I am asking for others experiences and how they got the weight off. Shes about 200lbs overweight. There is no intensive workout plan scheduled. No need to worse case scenario. She has been vetted and we arent stupid so I humbly ask you to offer a plan or move along. Please.
@@TheSweezer Then why didn't you give even a shred of background on the horse, you never mentioned you've seen a vet, you've never mentioned it was a horse on pasture, you never mentioned anything except wanting advice for getting weight off and when someone mentions to seek vet advice first as a caution you get completely overblown.
Any of his criticisms of you were lost under the misogynistic remarks
If there's progress and no harm done, I have no reason to talk down on how someone trains.
Hitting them in the head only makes them headshy. No one should do that approach. Not to mention with some horses (especially studs) if you get aggressive, they get aggressive.
Side note: If he's wild and has mustang parents, he's still a wild mustang. Being wild and federally owned and branded isn't what makes them mustangs.
I like you.
430 thumbs up, and 9 thumbs down. I guarantee those 9 thumbs down were from JEALOUS, CATTY, FEMALE SAM WANNABE'S..!!!
OMG Wat??? Someone actually suggested that you HIT HIM IN THE HEAD WITH THE STICK???? Grrr that really upsets me. FFS. I like that you stood your ground and kept calm.
It's disappointing that you have to address questions about hitting the horse and breaking its spirit.