Nightwish - Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean - NZ Vocal Coach Reacts & Analyses (Voice Lesson Edition)
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Yes, more Nightwish please. Dead Boys Poem for some unbelieveble beautiful belting
OMG Love me a bit of belt! I shall have to add it to the list. ;)
Yes please - from the same concert!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach I don't think you know much about metal singing to be honest. Pretty good reaction though
She can sing everything... very charismatic and wonderful front-woman!!!
YES that she certainly is!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Diana Ankudinova - Нас учили быть птицами. 2018. (DIANA ANKUDINOVA - We Were Taught To Be Birds)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Nice to meet a vocal coach we don't have to introduce to Nightwish! 🤘💜
Omg yes! More Nightwish! That fact you are already a fan, and a pro vocalist, makes your analysis super awesome! Great video! Btw, you did pop up on my feed...because NIGHTWISH!! Cool channel!
Ive seen Nightwish 4 times. France, Wacken 2013, Donington and Wembley 2015. Wacken 2013 was where i was introduced to Floor and omg i was blown away. Her voice is so perfect, Marko and Troys voices are so perfect. The musicians are so tight, Floor owns the stage, she works the crowd and the whole band react with the crowd. I never got that feeling with Tarja or Anette. The sound and lighting is perfect on every performance not forgetting the pyros.
They Shannon! I haven't seen them live just yet but definitely looking forward to it 😉 Floor is a fabulous front woman! Full of energy and life on stage in the videos.
The song "Yours is an Empty Hope" live in Mexico City has Floor growling a lot in it
@@Dam0clez yea Wild card is a good one
Mexico City version is great. I think Wembley is better (also better production values).
Floor was fighting the flu during that South American tour.
WHAT!? That is some awesome singing through the flu!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Apparently she did not speak for the whole of that day and abbreviated her warm-up to preserve as much voice as possible for the show, and was barely able to speak at all afterwards.
So having a slightly scratchy voice between some of the songs was entirely understandable!
She could barely sing during the show in Columbia .
It's all good
For now, I'm really happy to just see them in their virtual concert next month.
You learn something new every day! I didn't know they were doing one. I shall be there with bells on.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Glad to be of service! :) Check their official website for tickets and more info.
On the part with the staccato notes I suddenly imagined Floor like a sea goddess hitting Marko, the "Devil" with the notes as if they were arrows, an oceanic war right there
Interesting. I always picture Devil Markko chasing her and she is swimming for her life and the little vocal onsets are when he almost catches her.
@@crucialtaunt5717 so she is basically screaming in fear?
Great reaction. Thank you. Greets from Finland 🤘🇫🇮🙏🏻❤️
Thank you 🙌
well i had a ticket to Sweden Rock Festival 2020 with Nightwish headlining, and i'm still waiting for it. Saw Nightwish live at Sweden Rock in 2004 with Tarja, in pouring rain. Still one of my fav performances ever at Sweden Rock...
If you do further reactions to Nightwish with Floor, it would be great to hear your thoughts on all the timbre changes that Floor uses in her singing. There are times she jumps between timbres every couple of words, such as in her opening verse in this song, and other times she does whole sections mostly in one timbre and then switches for other sections (e.g. Ghost Love Score at Wacken 2013). I think it's one of the more interesting things about her singing, along with her extensive use of dynamics.
100% I see I will have to listen super closely to her voice for the next one. Great thing to watch out for though! I sometimes think with artists they make these decisions based on the feeling of the song / in the moment rather than dissecting it all to the extent that I am here. ;)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach we love it when voice pros appreciate the amazing Floor and NW!
Nightwish - Dead Boy's Poem - Live In Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades Tour
ruclips.net/video/S8E3L7ggLMM/видео.html
Nightwish - 7 Days To The Wolves (Live at Wembley Arena)2015
ruclips.net/video/XvsfwAPbWXc/видео.html
** Nightwish - Yours Is An Empty Hope.Vehicle Of Spirit.Live at Wembley (2015)
ruclips.net/video/vyLsU7Q333k/видео.html
NIGHTWISH - Shoemaker (Official Lyric Video): ruclips.net/video/Rjp_DfvJimg/видео.html * the ending is the gold***
@@nicod1361 I can see that I am going to have a lot of awesome listening to do tomorrow ;)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Yup.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Google (or whatever your favourite search engine is) Eugene Merle Shoemaker before listening to Shoemaker. He is the subject of the song. He was originally intended to be the first civilian to set foot on the moon, but is, instead, the only person to be buried there - or, indeed, on any celestial body other than earth.
This BA 2018 (Decades tour) performance is excellent (Floor was a little sick and that's why her speaking voice was a little out of tune - but not the singing voice). Marko Hietala as the "Devil" and Floor as the "Ocean". Great duet. The song is originally from the album "Oceanborn" (1998, Tarja's era). Wonderful analysis. By the way, as a seasoned vocal coach herself, Floor is giving some vocal masterclasses on her YT channel (corona pasttime). They are very professional and entertaining. Greetings from Finland! ⛄👍
One of my favourites from Nightwish, keep them coming! Hi,from 🇫🇮🤟🏻
I will do my best!
Great analysis and commentary Zoe! Loved it.
Thank you so much for watching!!!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach
NIGHTWISH - Storytime (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO-Wacken 2013)
Ghost River (Wacken 2013)
Nightwish - Bless the Child (Wacken 2013)
NIGHTWISH - Romanticide (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO-Wacken 2013)
NIGHTWISH - Ever Dream (OFFICIAL LIVE-Wacken 2013)
Nightwish - Song of Myself LIVE-Wacken 2013-
Cool reaction and look forward to you doing more Nightwish hopefully. I don't know if you know this, but Floor was a vocal coach as well. She's not teaching anymore though she does have a RUclips channel where she's been doing covers and some vocal master class videos
I saw that ! Yes she is a voice coach too, that is awesome. I am sure that she is a very good coach too!
loved your reaction and your insight, tnx Zoe...
Floor said the vent is heaven for her because it keeps the sweat away 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
Floor is doing a master class on her youtube site .
"Do you want more Nightwish...?"
Good question.
Let me put it this way;
Does the sun set fruitlessly for she must rise again tomorrow?
Is water wet?
Is good food good food?
The answer to your question isn't yes.
It's hell yes.
Does the Pope wear a funny hat? ;)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Small correction: The question is: Is the Pope a catholic? ;)
@@diamondback6653 oh god I won' t even get into that convo I don't think. ;)
Interesting to see you exploring Nightwish! Remarkable choice, because most vocal coaches jump on the train with Ghost Love Score live from Wacken Festival. Might be the next one to explore, with lead singer Floor Jansen using all sorts of vocal techniques...Thanks for this one!
Going by some previous comments I read on another video she's already familiar with and aware of Nightwish and Floor. Though to what extent I'm not sure
Yes I am a big Nightwish fan... although I wasn't aware until recently that the singer had changed! How terrible of me right? I am way back in the early 2000's Nightwish. Although I did have tickets to their 2020 tour which obviously didn't happen ;(
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Me too tickets for Nightwish in Amsterdam. Just hope this year it will happen. Same as the other postponed concerts I just missed....
(Rammstein, Epica, Tarja and Anneke)
@@icerabbit9419 Can't wait for November. I got tickets for both days. Because I could not get a groundfloor one the first time around. So first day in front of the podium, sober and with paracetamol and ear plugs. Second day on the balcony with loads of beer.
Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) Jari is one of the best growlers.
Floor was scratchy because she was just getting over the flu that had been reeking havoc on everyone at this part of the tour.
Great analysis. We can hear your expertise as a voice coach & see you are a NW fan. Floor has a lot of seperate songs outside of NW now you will enjoy also.
New Zealander 🇳🇿 & Australia 🇦🇺 NW fans need to campaign to have a NW tour of the Pacific now that things are 99.9% COVID free - venues & crews available!
I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Thank you!!! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. I hope that things do go ahead in NZ & Aus!!
So much awesomeness in one video, you yourself and Nightwish with this song wich goes way back in their repertoire. 🐱👤🎶👍 I have tickets too. They were for the 23th and 24th of November than they were moved to the 9th and 10th of may. They got moved again to the 22th and 24th of November. Going to see them in Amsterdam Ziggodome. DOCU TIME: Floor Jansen - (English&Finnish Subtitles) Interview and Reportage From Tampere [De Reunie](NPO 1)
And this analysis REALLY adds up something... now that's what I'm talkin about, great job! (And I'm so sorry I won't be able to see any more Nightwish with Marco :( )
Awesome Corvus Corax Tshirt 😍😄
Early on in the video you mentioned the growl was by using the arytenoids. Floor's growling in Yours is an Empty Hope was described by The Big Brain Singer Vocal coach/Opera singers as being produced by the false vocal folds. Are these separate techniques or just different names for the same technique. Yours is an Empty Hope might be a good one to react to.
Just wonder how you can write I song like this one.. nothing compares. to it.
Yes!
Great analysis! It would be nice to see you analyze some song from new Human :II: Nature album.
How’s the heart - album and also the acoustic version with Troy on Planet Rock.
Shoemaker will blow your mind!
(Research Eugene Shoemaker planetary scientist first).
Yes please more nightwish - all of it! I love to hear a NZ accent, can confuse the Americans with the Aussie one haha
Floor didn't learn to growl till after she was long after the Rock Academy and even the Tilburg Conservatory.
Hi Zoe, loved your analysis and reaction. I am curious what your take will be on other singers, like: Simone Simons (Epica), Charlotte Wessels (Delain), Sharon den Adel (Within Temptation), Anneke van Giersbergen (VuuR - and a lot more bands), Dianne van Giersbergen (ExLibris), Lisette van den Berg (Scarlet Stories) *edit Marcela Bovio (MaYaN) - not sorry to promote our Dutch Metal Queens. But I can see you having fun with Arch Enemy, Jinjer, Amaranthe, Kamelot, Doro, Unleash the Archers - just to level the playing field ;)
Looking forward to your next post.
You are naming all my fav bands. I have to make a huge list now!!!! ;) Thank you!
Try album that Floor created with her old band ReVamp, it is called ,, Wild Card ´´. I would describe this album as a pure madness, hatred, betrayal ...It is so depressing, but I love that album so hard. Floor and Nightwish did epic stuff all the time, but this one is so special.
Great reaction, you should do some of Floor Jansen's recent solo covers, seems more suited for this channel. She's got such a fantastic voice and range!
Zoe.....Enjoyed your re ...act / view, thank you. I will not be at the Munich Concert.....I will be at the Los Angeles Concert.....Yea Baby !
Woohoo! Rocking it out!
Thanks
I live in the States so I will not be attending the Munich show. However, I do have tickets to their show here!
Absolutely loved your reaction. It was fantastic. I am a massive Nightwish and Floor Jansen fan and hope you do more from them. Can you please react to ReVamp - Wildcard Floor's previous band. She is Epic in that. 💜🤘😁🤘
Thank you so much ! I will take a look. She is an amazing singer!
Hey zoe when you notise Floor. Body talk she looks like a Valkyrie Queen . Like a liddel bit of Hella from the Marvel Thor Movis .
Listen to more solo projects our dutch queen Floor Jansen did.
My Queen Goddess Floorever!
like your analysis, keep it up! I´d love to see more Nightwish. Please also check out Floors incredible covers like Shallow-Lady Gaga, Adagio-Lara Fabian, Phantom of the opera etc...
Thank you! I am a huge fan of Phantom I shall take a look at it ;)
They were super fortunate to be blessed with both Jukka and Kai…two phenomenal drummers who melded so perfectly with a phenomenal band
They really were. Nightwish are incredible.
Floor has a vocal course on line which may be of help for you.
Amazing, I will take a look at it. I would love to hear her ideas. I have a rock coach at the moment helping me learn to scream which is right out of my comfort zone as a classically trained, musical theatre turned rock belter. ;) My dream is to join a melodic metal band.
Thanks for an interesting video. A suggestion for an artist to react to... Brittany Slayes of Unleash the Archers. As far as songs go, Test Your Metal and General Of the Dark Army are two of my personal favorites.
Ich weiß ja nicht, warum ich erst jetzt dein Video hier sehe, aber RUclips wird sich wohl was dabei denken. 😂
Ich war 2018 in der Münchner Olympiahalle bei nightwish. Es war schon echt irre gut. Die Klangqualität und diese konstante top Performance von allen auf und wohl auch hinter der Bühne ist echt Wahnsinn. Klangmäßig sind diese Konzerte extrem weit vorne.
Hi. Great reaction. I have Tickets for Bamberg. Hope i can go on 5th. of Dezember.
You mentioned on your kingdom reaction, Eisbrecher and Corvus Corax i'm intrigued seen them both live, which other bands from this genre do you like to listen to?
YOU SAW EISBRECHER LIVE?! I am so jealous, although they are from Munich I haven't seen them yet. Hmmmm I have a huge range of music I listen to, but Russkaja, ALIEN WEAPONRY, literally all the artists on the Napalm Records label. Alestorm is more pirate metal but I LOVE them!
ruclips.net/user/ignitepunk I am a big fan of too. It is like metal punk rock.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Yeah 2016 in Hannover. Great concert.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Please explore In Extremo. They are Corvus Corax mixed with metal. You probably know them if you know CC and Eisbrecher. Can you please analyse any song with Der Einhorn doing the super low singing, like Merzeburger Zauberspruche?
Never seen you before. I like all of the analysis.
Check out Tribal from the new album. My favourite song since Dance of Death.
Floorgasm! Requesting- NIGHTWISH - Slaying The Dreamer - Live In Buenos Aires (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO) Would love to hear your reaction to it.
I'll check it out!
So I heard to growl safely something about the "false folds" at the top of your vocal cords
Growl is the arytenoids knocking together but screaming and singing with a bit of scratch in the voice is with the false vocal folds. I think it depends on what you define as a growl. ;)
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There's a word that I don't know, that you used in your intro that Rycon Roleplays also uses.. what does it mean?
Kia Ora you mean? It means hello in Maori which is the second official language of New Zealand. ;)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Oh, I see! Yes, that's it.
have you really heard Floor growl like an angry-mama-bear in Nightwish Yours is an Empty hope live at Wembley arina 2015 ? . by the way Floor Jansen has been in another band : After forever since she was 16 years old before she did the Dutch Rock Academy . Sincerely Hollandduck from the Netherlands
more... more ... more floor!!
You may want to check out Floor really growling in a couple of songs she wrote for her previous band ReVamp, specifically "Disdain" and "Wild Card".
Not only the rock-academy, but the conservatorium after that for two years, which is the Dutch "University" for classical music and opera...
She is incredible!
Subbed, please do more Nightwish, and maybe take a look at Epica as well?
I will have a look indeed!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Floor Jansen is BFF with Simone Simons from EPICA. Epica has Floor Jansen featured in some of there official "Live Retrospect Show" songs 👍
I have subbed as well to support a fellow kiwi (Auckland NZ)
@@warwickeioncampbell4737 woop woop Kiwi's representing!!! ;) Thank you!
Sancta Terra - Epica with Floor Jansen live at the Retrospect Show
Try watching "Unleash the Archers - Abyss"
nice analysis! Are you able to do a live song from Amaranthe?
Thank you so much! I will have a look at them this week!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach awesome! I would also love to hear your thoughts on Dynazty!
It might be this concert in which in Kinslayer Marko forgot his line and improvised "FU.K ME!" instead, 😁
Hallo from northern Germany. Congrats, yery good reaction. I never see you. What Kind of Music, you react, in others🤔🤗 one tip, when you interested, look to Floor MasterClass 🤗
Servus! werde ich machen danke. Das war eben mein erstes Floor reaction aber ich freue mich das es dir so gefällt. Sie ist der pure Wahnsinn, oder? Mega Stimme!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Cool, eine Bayerin. Ein Moin vom Dümmer. So meine Punkte 😇 Floor Jansen ist die größte Stimme, die ich meiner Lebenszeit gehört habe. Und bin 58. Und kenne viele von Plant zu Piaf. Aber das entscheidende bei ihr ,sie ist eine Geschichtenerzählerin, wie Freddie Mercury. Eine Edema Ruh
@@ralfmeyer9086 ich stimme 100% zu. ;)
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach eine Frage? Was reacts du sonst so? War ja nicht deine erste. Klassik, oder ? Würde mich interessieren. 🤗
Zoe analysiert einen Vokal Coach ja Floor war 10 Jahre Gesangsleherin in den Niederlanden sie hat ja einen eigenen RUclips Canal Master Class da hat sie mal erzählt das sie das gemacht hat nur keine zeit mehr dafür hat
if you havent heard ayreon just go for it, you will love it
Thank you I will take a look!
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach The day that the world break down is a nice one to start on, you can do a reaction and analysis video if you want to, pretty amazing singers
OOOOhhhhh a kiwi reactor coooool hello fellow Nzer.
Kia Ora!
No, not Munich but hopefully in Dublin, Ireland.
Woohoo!
👍👍👍🇳🇱🤟🤟🤟
Nightwish? in Epica? in Ayreon? in Devin? in I guess I ll be around
Amazing!
Nice Shirt, Zoe... 👍
Mega ! Thank you! Do you know Corus Croax? They are a medieval metal band. Insane music but amazing! ruclips.net/user/picamusic
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Sure I know corvus corax... I'm german
@@dafdos4103 cool! Dann hast du auf jeden fall einen super Musik Geschmack.
Yes , she is trained at the Rockacademy and she did classical training, but then she did the growls in her own time, she didn't get proper training in the Rockacadamy (for her), the classical training was better , the teacher gave her more training as the Rockacadamy
Not Munich. But Wembley 😀
Hi Zoe! Can you react to a Malaysian singer, Aina Abdul performing her song Semalam on AJL35 please... Thank you so much 🖤
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Sahara from Nightwish?
Added to the list!
Can't wait!
Please please please do some In Extremo. They have so much fans and are an interesting band playing medieval metal but nobody I suggest it to actually gives them a listen.
Hi Barbara! Thank you! I certainly love me a bit of medieval metal can't wait to check them out
have seen a lot of reactors, not bad! so b+/A in laid back way
lol @ disclaimer.
It had to be done. I got so much shit for saying anything that I just had to ;)
When she banters and shouts between songs, Floor does tend to have a fairly raspy/scratchy tone to her voice. Don't know if that's just the way she sounds when she raises her voice, or if there is some damage that has happened over the years.
Really? I will have to find a video to take a look at her talking. She will know best I am sure but when you hear Tatiana from Jinjer as an example her speaking voice is 100% clear. That is ultimately what we want. She sings clearly though without the appearance of pushing so .... It could be a bit of constriction, or a bit of fry.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach If you go to Floor's RUclips channel you can find a lot of examples of her regular speaking voice. I don't detect any raspy quality there, just a sort of lower voice tone.
It's inherited from the male dominated metal scene where all front-men tend to put distortion on their voice when riling up the crowd! I love it when she does that stuff. Have a look at her live ReVamp performances where she uses distortion a lot when she's shouting. It's on purpose for sure.
Intentional rasp, a good old rock voice.
@@corneliusantonius3108 yeah that’s what I figured, since it doesn’t happen when she just talks normally.
Next please: Yours is an empty hope...
I am not sure what you mean there...
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach song title.
Niice a vocal coach reakt to a Vocal coach Floor Jansen is Singer Songwriter and Vocal Choach she have a Music and Voise Studdy she sing Opera Rock Pop Jazz latin and of corse Metall she is 6Feet or 1.83 m Pure Metall the Nightwish Armee Call s her Valkyrie Queen. Floor say in her one Chanel calls Master Class that she do the job as an Vocal Choach for 10 Years but she have more Time for.this anymore
me aburri a la segunda pausa del video. i love queen floor,
i find the original with tarja much much better.
Ooo i need to take a look
Great reaction. Anyway, can i request your reaction to superb band from japan?
The band is call "Lovebites"
They all The Queens metal band right now in the earth. They are really really World class musicians. Phenomenal.
And they have a lot fans too.
The song is "Glory to the world"
Hope you check out, and can enjoy it too. Big thanks🙏
I shall have a look thank you! I LOVE learning about new music and bands.
@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Great. Thank you. Lovebites have a great singer too. She's voice so power, and high.
You chopped this up so much , by the end I didnt know what song I was watching .
Shes Dutch.... So its pronounced Yansen.
They singing Ten Words , you Talk... They singing the next ten Words you Talk... again and again and again... Thats a reaction? .... ???
It's an analysis..
parli troppo durante video.....
Your music is to low .
Hi Teddy, thank you for your feedback. I will try to mix a bit better next time. It is a little ticky with Metal ;)