*Real Madrid net spend 2011-2021: £215m* *Man City net spend 2011-2021: £1 BILLION* We've been selling players to buy players for over a decade now. Hence why the Bayern President said we're an example of how you can win without spending like the oil clubs. When we sign Hazard for £100m, it's cos we sold Ronaldo for £100m. Anyone who accuses Madrid of spending loads doesn't know the actual FACTS & NUMBERS. *NET* spend is the only thing that matters.
Real Madrid is is bent club as you can get. If they don't have any money then suddenly they will 'magic' money from some illegal sources. Remember the sale of the local training ground to the local council for £480m to wipe out the £290m debt. The dodgy dealings of land re-valuation and direct proceeds enabled Real to embark on their period of extravagant Galacticos spending. Without the scrupulous government deal there is no way that heavily indebted Real would’ve been able to splash out on their extravagant squad of superstars:
@@voodoochile333 Why do people always mention this 1 case and act like it's part of a long list of things Madrid has done wrong? That 1 case is basically one where 7 different clubs in Spain were being granted tax subsidies because they're non-profit organisations, but the European Commission said that's illegal & have to pay it all back. The total for the clubs that were given these tax cuts (Bilbao, Osasuna, Barça, Valencia, Madrid, Hercules & Elche) is close to just €20m each, ordered by the European court. Saying that Madrid got such a ridiculous tax cut on land that it allowed them to build the Galacticos is just insane. For those 7 clubs to have made hundreds of millions from land tax means the price of land in Spain must be the price of several oil fills, and the European Commission today must be more corrupt than a South American cartel. You name dropped 1 case, involving 7 clubs, where Madrid weren't asked to pay €20m in taxes & land, then said they used that €20m to fund the Galacticos. Crazy. Plus I can name dozens of clubs with more than 1 case against them across Europe, where they made way more than €20m over 25 yrs.
@@tharcisseofficial Totally different case. In 2001 madrid sold their training ground to the council at a over inflated price. The tax bungs you mentioned are additional. Don't whitewash history
@@TrFjAcOr No one's whitewashing anything. The training ground sale is part of the same investigation and amounted to a court order that Madrid pay back the €10m they made. This guy's acting like we made hundreds of millions and used that to finance our debt and sign Ballon d'Or winners. That's just absurd. The figures are available for EVERYONE to see, so the fact you'd promote false information like that means you're either incapable of doing basic research or you're lying on purpose to express some warped hatred for a random football club.
Just realised after wathcing this piece that Real have been really ruthless in letting their players leave. Pure business for them which has been a blessing in disguise for them in the covid era. I would say they are in much better positon once the stadiums open up again and that revenue starts flowing in. Mbappe to Real is set in stone.
The problem I have with this narrative is while all.that is well and good they brought.in Alaba for 12.million a year!! That is such a shocking wage to be honest.
@@AkrimTabbouli Ramos was paid more so I think it worked out well. Ramos was also so old that he was spending more and more time off the pitch with injuries. Even now at PSG, Ramos is injured. Madrid were smart to get a better replacement like Alaba.
@@kingmonde dosent look so high for a free transfer when i looked at barca salaries roberto 22m pique 38m alba 32m busquets 34m gross when marca revealed them and i was like wtf..they are getting more/as much as bale !!
@@AkrimTabbouli 12 million a year however no transfer fee paid. It's literally the equivalent of paying someone 3 million a year but also handing out a 36 million transfer fee. 36 million in this football economy doesn't get you an Alaba type of player.
@@giannis.ioannidis.1995 all well and good except they had Varane already on the roster. A much better centre back, younger already in the team and one if the team leaders. The narrative isn't purely wanting to leave for a new challenge but BECUASE Alaba was being paid many more millions than he...
I suspect it will be a full blown galacticos 3.0 next summer with Mbappe, Pogba and Camavinga coming in for free (signing on bonuses) and a centerback for around 50 (Torres, Kounde, etc). They will lose high earners like Marcelo, Bale, Isco and Modric. They will also sell players like Jovic, Brahim, Mariano, Lucas, etc... If they sell enough, maybe he will go for Haaland as well... And no, i am not a Real Madrid fan, i am a Man Utd fan, and that is how i see Pogba going
Be funny if they just showed Eden Hazard going through physical therapy for 10 straight minutes with the announcer saying "Any Questions?" right as the screen fades to black.
The more comments the better the video does algorithm wise. And a lot of people who watch/listen to/read The Athletic will have an idea or opinion about Mbappe and Haaland. Nice easy topic to get plenty of responses
"Question is whether Mbappe wants to go to Real Madrid or not" Bruh, there is not one football fan that doesn't know the fact that he's Real Madrid's biggest fan and he's turned down 6 ASTRONOMICAL contract offers from PSG just because he want to play for Madrid. Wtf are you saying🤣 he wants Madrid just as much as Madrid want him. He communicated with Khelaifi that he is not going to renew whatsoever and that he wants to sign for Madrid. It's up to PSG now to decide whether they would cash in on him and earn 150M€ or force him to stay one more season and lose him on a free. There is no 3rd scenario.
Mbappe going to real madrid is not a simple thing, it puts laliga back in the picture, in 2 years time messi and Ronaldo will be retired, and its a statement that says dspite all the oil money and wealthy owners in the PL and with the so called rich club in PSG, mbappe chose to go to real madrid, it could very well be like how cristiano was signed in 2009, because of that they attracted ozil, di maria etc.. once mbappe signs the other best players will all start taking notice of Real madrid again and i am pretty sure if mbappe comes then pogba will come as well and camavinga is reportedly more interested to join madrid on free. And the contracts of madrid 4 biggest earners like isco, modric, marcelo and Bale all ends in 2022. That is gonna boost their wage structure to sign these players.
@@nizamknight even United are struggling. We just got lucky with Sancho and Varane. Sancho is paid over 5 years and Varane is paid over 4 years. In comparison to Maguire and AWB, £80m and £45m were both paid upfront to Leicester and Crystal Palace
I think the transfer fee bubble has finally burst. Just no one has realized it yet at the fan level. Neymar broke the market, the Pandemic will fix the prices to a pre Neymar level outside the Oil Clubs and PL at least.
It’s no surprise the only teams still pushing for European super league (Barca, Madrid and Juve) all have big financial issues - mostly because of ridiculously inflated wage bills...
I think the ESL is better of two bad choices. Oil states monopolising leagues like in France & England & totally disregarding FFP is far worse in the long term. Whats worse, they are cheating the system. It won't be long before an oil state buys the CL every other year like they buy the PL & Ligue 1 currently.
Why would you want to spend money during the pandemic? Also, after spending millions on Hazard they rather wait and make save buys instead of going on the spending spree like Barcelona did and just start buying another 70 or 100 million pounds player whenever the previous gold player failed or got injured.
@@ulises0717 My squad? It's not my club so you are knocking at the wrong door if you are looking for a catfight. But I will say that they were smart to hire Carlo Ancelloti to bring some stability to the club. He knows the club well and he is used to coach great squads and not-so-great squads, and still get good results out of them.
@@StoutProper Yes, I agree! Atletico, Real Sociedad, Seville, and Bilbao will definitely put on a fight against Real for the top 4 places. That's what you mean, right? I don't see any other clubs in better shape than Real Madrid to be real challengers and contenders for the title. 🤣
Miguel Rosado Relax man I said it as if I was Real Madrid, like thats why you would spend this summer... The Ancelotti thing was cause he wont oppose the President, hes a puppet, he wont say a peep and align 100% with the direction during this
There must be a cap on how much a team can spend based on their turnover (over a 4 year period) and a limit on how much an owner can pump into the club otherwise football will become like Formula 1. Sadly, football at the moment resembles society at large.
Uhmm no. You just look at it from big teams. But people don't see how other teams are also being bought and growing. The premier is getting tighter all because of money. You can't control player movement.
There is a cap in LaLiga based on yearly gains and that's why Barça and other clubs were suffering as revenues fell and thus spending power was decreased.
I think the Real Madrid plan is a pretty canny one from how i see it... Modric & Bale are out of contract at the end of the season so that frees up enough in the wage bill to be able to accommodate them and the likes of Kroos, Asensio, Isco and Militao can command decent fees once clubs can spend normally after a year of crowds in. I see M'Bappe & Pogba signing deals with them in January as soon as they are allowed. Haaland will arrive in July for his bargain clause price and Conte will arrive as the new Manager in June with Ancelotti becoming director of football. But this season's team will go deep in the league and the CL: Courtois; Carvajal, Nacho, Militao, Alaba; Casemiro, Kroos; Vinicius, Bale, Hazard; Benzema with Rodrygo, Modric, Isco, Asensio & Vasquez from the bench is a serious team and most of them have something to prove.
Modric will renew for 1 more year. Isco, Marcelo, Ceballos, Bale will leave. RM are trying to sell Hazard as well which can open up significant money. Kroos & Modric will retire in RM after maybe 2-3 years, maybe Marcelo will too (end of this season).
Tebas and La Liga need Real to sign a superstar, as he can't expect that with Barca. Look at how La Liga social medias put anyone they considered stars as their poster boys, they're struggling. Serie A could stick CR7 anytime, Ligue 1 with the addition of Messi now, EPL with their vast number of 2nd tier superstars available. He should relax that financial rule a bit.
Hazard, Coutinho, Suarez, Dembele, Bale, Griezmann, Joao Felix, Modric, Kroos, Kounde and more are still superstars and play in Spain. And then there is the young ones like Valverde, Fati, Pedri, Vinicius, Rodrygo, De jong and soon Mbappe
Bayern are simply not spending either and it worries me. We have been known as smart spenders on most transfers but the board talks about players like Sabitzer (18-20M) as breaking the budget or what not
@@tellall23 there are, Everton have to be FFP complaint and not spending this year is because of that Ancelotti was allowed to leave so easily because Moshiri wants to cut payroll
While Chelsea, Man City & PSG have certainly exacerbated the question of transfer expenditure, wages & funding - it's important to remember the original sinners were Barcelona and Real Madrid who broke records multiple times throughout the 90's and the 00's. It's clearly taken it's toll and now here we are with Europe's biggest clubs at sea because they were banking on a big pay day with the ESL.
Bro you live in the information era yet you are missinformed, how embarrasing, you have access to information two clicks away, for your own good I would not read or listen to the English media when it comes to other footballs clubs or leagues, because they are dishonest and biased and your are proof of that.
Who broke multiple records by the money they earned themselves. Chelsea is still dependent on Abramovic, City's owner opened up a war chest as soon as he came in without the club being able to generate that money themselves, PSG is the exact same case.
🤣🤣🤣 Any knob who give's credence to that idea, even if he doesn't believe it but just writing an article need's to go. You don't want to get dementia, don't play. There's thousands who played the game and never got dementia.
@@europeanroyalty4778 yeah it’s gross , I get wanting to limit head injuries but I mean c’mon now. If you follow his logic , pretty soon they won’t be allowed to kick a ball because people’s toes will have started hurting or some nonsense
Beginning of the end for Real Madrid spending. If they need to save money year on year to make a big purchases, how can they compete with Man City, Chelsea who are able to spend £100m-£200m ever year? This reminds me to AC Milan, who were the big spenders in the 80s-90s.
Real madrid had many Brilliant decades...unlike ac milan or other clubs which was relevant in an era or two...real was big in 60s late 80s 90s...00s...10s...won ucl in all these different decades...
That's not the case. R. Madrid wasn't spending money because of the pandemic and are a well run club unlike those clubs you mentioned. Now they have the money to spend bigger than anyone else. Shitty can spend 100M on Grealish, Madrid will spend that on Mbappe.
@@lucasmoreno5330 still somone had to win those....n its like saying Uruguaya isnt worthy f being wc winners in the 30s when there was only13 teams in it!! N real was the team that time having players like pukas di stefano gento in it...not many clubs had these kinda players!having them only makes a club great...n real only won the liga 1 ssn earlier...n reached the ucl semis last year...n lost the league on the last day of the ssn...n u r comparing them with ac milan!
wHAT IS THE TURTH ABOUT bARCELONA'S MONEY ISSUES DAVID AND DERMOT?? I hear 1.5Bil to 2.7Bil in arrears?? Which is it.. It's a huge difference in the amount
You're certainty is amazing. I'm surprised you're not a fortune teller. Maybe you can help Real Madrid out with the lottery numbers since they need the money
@@nightnomad635 go to the clubs website ull see official report about equity n cash that club has right now ..😊580 mil equity n 122 cash....today sold odegaard wage plus fees 40 mil plus....I thinks that's not bad...made 450k euros in profit...not negative like other clubs...just wait n watch
It would be stupid to buy mbappe now for anything more than 110 million since he can come for free next summer. One year is not worth that much. Perez is so fixated on Mbappe tho that I think he will do it. He's willing to throw away the balance of the team for mbappe. We need another center back this summer and he wont buy one as long as he dreams about mbappe. Also means we probably wont be able to get haaland next summer if we buy mbappe for too much now. He should've learned his lesson with hazard after overpaying with a year left there. It just became an even worse deal afterwards due to his injuries
It's not stupid because Perez wants to keep a good relationship with PSG and getting him free will piss them off. Barca wanted to sign Verrati and PSG retaliated getting Neymar and now Messi. Perez has great relationship with all clubs so they can sit and negotiate for player. Barcelona's tactic is to tell the player to not go and train until he is sold and now clubs like Dortmund and Liverpool hate Barcelona. Hazard was worth that much money because he was the best in the PL, but he was careless with fitness and unlucky with an ankle injury. BTW, there is enough money for Haaland and more players for next season.
How the hell do these guys expect football fans to pay for their content when they regurgitate the same stuff other media outlets do. I get sky and talksport jus get ex players who have no clue but these guys are not giving something more that's worth paying for. I would say sky sports have more access and knowledge than these guys. They sit journalists outside clubs all day and always know when medicals etc are happening
They are saving money for Supercup. They are going to buy Mbappe and drop out of UEFA. With PSG(messi) along. Thats a big impact to the football market.
@@taaaaaaaazzzzzz Isn't Lewandowski on massive wages? Haaland's release clause is big, but not too big for a generational talent that's right under their nose
@@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 Lewandowski is on about 20mil a year if I'm correct. Raiola and Haaland demand 35mil a year, if the leak in April was correct.
To me neither player will make a difference to Real, both are world class and are the future, but Real have more structural problems. If I was to have to choose I would say Harland, for the only reason being me being a Liverpool supporter and I would love Mbappe at LFC. I also thing Harland is like a spoilt brat and so would suit Real
@@jonny26281 Drying successes... EPL has plenty of successful clubs, but it fails to transcend into the national side - something Spain and Italy had achieved but not England. EPL, in other words, is a double-edged sword killing English football. If England can't achieve any international success, EPL is a waste of England. That's why there are calls to limit foreign players in EPL to save English football from a catastrophe.
the net debt is just €46m as of now, the rest debt has to be paid in 30 years with €30m/year instalment as it was loaned for the stadium reconstruction. They aren’t spending money cz they aren’t owned by a rich oil owner, they can only spend what they earn and cz of Covid they aren’t able to generate revenue which will be back to normal once the lockdown restrictions ease of, so they’ll be back to competing with the oil clubs
What a useless question. Real Madrid stopped spending, because they don't have money to spend. They are in financial trouble. Didn't you know, all world know for the last 10 months or so.
All clubs are in financial trouble. R. Madrid's strategy was to keep loses low and save money. Look at them now signing Mbappe this weekend. No other rich club can do that
@@edd0f my reaction is normal and I know quite a lot about football gossip. Are you talking about Haaland coming next summer? I would believe Mbappe to Real next summer, when he will be free agent. It would suit both parties, but not this weekend. Come on.
Because the Spanish gvt and by extension the EU has no more funds to bank out Real, Barcelona, etc so they'll have to live within their means for a change. We'll see if they'll be dominating Europe now...
Look at Chelsea, City and tell me how they're living within their means. Utterly stupid statement, RM, Barca always have spent what they earned, they just earned much more than oil clubs did.
@@aakashdeep2298 Someone here has a very naive view of Europe and football in general. Right or wrong, it's mostly private funds being pumped into UK clubs by wealthy owners. On the other hand, RM, Barcelona, and other Spanish clubs have benefitted from public funds to pay salaries, transfers, stadiums, etc,...
Its real Madrid..the name is enough. KAKA signed when real was getting knocked out in round of 16 cr7 just after winning UCL with ManU.Playing for Madrid is never just about money
Madrid riddled with 63 injuries reached UCL SF last season. Kroos, Casemiro, Modric are still performing who'll be replaced by Camavinga & Fede Valverde when time comes. Vinicius is performing, Militao, Alaba have struck up a partnership. There's good enough team to attract Mbappe.
This is not true, Florentino Pérez fckd the el Bernabéu project and there was a error set back that will cost €200millions and guess whos getting that money? Certain building firm
Saw no such news.whats your source..you are talking about something prominent Spanish news like marca as ignored as well sites goal espn.if what you are saying is legit they would have reported it especially Catalan newspapers
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Mbappe or Haaland; if Real can only get one striker, which one should it be? 👇
Both
Hallandale cause he's better. Mbappe for growing the club commercialy
MBAPPE because he can create his own goals, scores from more variety of positions and can grow madrid commercially as well.
If they’d kept Martin, I’d have said Haaland. But there is an Mbappe obsession
Both are coming 2022.
*Real Madrid net spend 2011-2021: £215m*
*Man City net spend 2011-2021: £1 BILLION*
We've been selling players to buy players for over a decade now. Hence why the Bayern President said we're an example of how you can win without spending like the oil clubs. When we sign Hazard for £100m, it's cos we sold Ronaldo for £100m. Anyone who accuses Madrid of spending loads doesn't know the actual FACTS & NUMBERS. *NET* spend is the only thing that matters.
Real Madrid is is bent club as you can get.
If they don't have any money then suddenly they will 'magic' money from some illegal sources.
Remember the sale of the local training ground to the local council for £480m to wipe out the £290m debt.
The dodgy dealings of land re-valuation and direct proceeds enabled Real to embark on their period of extravagant Galacticos spending.
Without the scrupulous government deal there is no way that heavily indebted Real would’ve been able to splash out on their extravagant squad of superstars:
@@voodoochile333 Why do people always mention this 1 case and act like it's part of a long list of things Madrid has done wrong? That 1 case is basically one where 7 different clubs in Spain were being granted tax subsidies because they're non-profit organisations, but the European Commission said that's illegal & have to pay it all back. The total for the clubs that were given these tax cuts (Bilbao, Osasuna, Barça, Valencia, Madrid, Hercules & Elche) is close to just €20m each, ordered by the European court. Saying that Madrid got such a ridiculous tax cut on land that it allowed them to build the Galacticos is just insane. For those 7 clubs to have made hundreds of millions from land tax means the price of land in Spain must be the price of several oil fills, and the European Commission today must be more corrupt than a South American cartel. You name dropped 1 case, involving 7 clubs, where Madrid weren't asked to pay €20m in taxes & land, then said they used that €20m to fund the Galacticos. Crazy. Plus I can name dozens of clubs with more than 1 case against them across Europe, where they made way more than €20m over 25 yrs.
@@tharcisseofficial Totally different case. In 2001 madrid sold their training ground to the council at a over inflated price. The tax bungs you mentioned are additional. Don't whitewash history
@@TrFjAcOr No one's whitewashing anything. The training ground sale is part of the same investigation and amounted to a court order that Madrid pay back the €10m they made. This guy's acting like we made hundreds of millions and used that to finance our debt and sign Ballon d'Or winners. That's just absurd. The figures are available for EVERYONE to see, so the fact you'd promote false information like that means you're either incapable of doing basic research or you're lying on purpose to express some warped hatred for a random football club.
please do the same exercise using *2001-2011*
Just realised after wathcing this piece that Real have been really ruthless in letting their players leave. Pure business for them which has been a blessing in disguise for them in the covid era. I would say they are in much better positon once the stadiums open up again and that revenue starts flowing in. Mbappe to Real is set in stone.
The problem I have with this narrative is while all.that is well and good they brought.in Alaba for 12.million a year!!
That is such a shocking wage to be honest.
@@AkrimTabbouli Ramos was paid more so I think it worked out well. Ramos was also so old that he was spending more and more time off the pitch with injuries. Even now at PSG, Ramos is injured. Madrid were smart to get a better replacement like Alaba.
@@kingmonde dosent look so high for a free transfer when i looked at barca salaries roberto 22m pique 38m alba 32m busquets 34m gross when marca revealed them and i was like wtf..they are getting more/as much as bale !!
@@AkrimTabbouli 12 million a year however no transfer fee paid. It's literally the equivalent of paying someone 3 million a year but also handing out a 36 million transfer fee. 36 million in this football economy doesn't get you an Alaba type of player.
@@giannis.ioannidis.1995 all well and good except they had Varane already on the roster. A much better centre back, younger already in the team and one if the team leaders.
The narrative isn't purely wanting to leave for a new challenge but BECUASE Alaba was being paid many more millions than he...
David ornstein seem like the guy girlfriends are happy to bring to their parents house
Brilliant haha
but might be visiting several parents in the same month!
For what reason?
Brilliant as always, David! Always a treat watching Dermot talk about La Liga.
I suspect it will be a full blown galacticos 3.0 next summer with Mbappe, Pogba and Camavinga coming in for free (signing on bonuses) and a centerback for around 50 (Torres, Kounde, etc). They will lose high earners like Marcelo, Bale, Isco and Modric. They will also sell players like Jovic, Brahim, Mariano, Lucas, etc...
If they sell enough, maybe he will go for Haaland as well...
And no, i am not a Real Madrid fan, i am a Man Utd fan, and that is how i see Pogba going
PSG offered him a 600 000 Euros per week deal. i think he will go to France
offered Pogba*
@@Sana_H somehow i think it is not all just about money with Pogba and he can still choose Real.
Pogba is going PSG on a free, that’s why he played so well
@@Ivanfbi pogba wants to play with big name players like Messi and Neymar and he’s from Paris so it’s an easy decision
Papa Perez, when Real got Mbappe for free next summer: "Okay now move those funds to Haaland funds, vamos"
Be funny if they just showed Eden Hazard going through physical therapy for 10 straight minutes with the announcer saying "Any Questions?" right as the screen fades to black.
Real is the only club where I'd go with Mbappe over Haaland, because Benzema is already too good of a 9 and will be for a while.
He turned 33 today I think.
@@kingmonde still 2 seasons to go at this Level
@@PharmacyAve yes, But Haaland needs to come so Benzema needs to go
@@kingmonde No he doesn't. He's a better player than Haaland.
@@SG-ku6kw yeah, but Haaland will probably be better than him by next season. Benzema will score less than he did last year, his age will catch up.
David is very click-bait-y when he asked about who Real Madrid should sign and I love it. Mbappé all the way.
The more comments the better the video does algorithm wise. And a lot of people who watch/listen to/read The Athletic will have an idea or opinion about Mbappe and Haaland. Nice easy topic to get plenty of responses
Amazing podcast.... thanks for the updates and details on almost everything going on in football David !
"Question is whether Mbappe wants to go to Real Madrid or not"
Bruh, there is not one football fan that doesn't know the fact that he's Real Madrid's biggest fan and he's turned down 6 ASTRONOMICAL contract offers from PSG just because he want to play for Madrid. Wtf are you saying🤣 he wants Madrid just as much as Madrid want him. He communicated with Khelaifi that he is not going to renew whatsoever and that he wants to sign for Madrid. It's up to PSG now to decide whether they would cash in on him and earn 150M€ or force him to stay one more season and lose him on a free. There is no 3rd scenario.
Mbappe going to real madrid is not a simple thing, it puts laliga back in the picture, in 2 years time messi and Ronaldo will be retired, and its a statement that says dspite all the oil money and wealthy owners in the PL and with the so called rich club in PSG, mbappe chose to go to real madrid, it could very well be like how cristiano was signed in 2009, because of that they attracted ozil, di maria etc.. once mbappe signs the other best players will all start taking notice of Real madrid again and i am pretty sure if mbappe comes then pogba will come as well and camavinga is reportedly more interested to join madrid on free. And the contracts of madrid 4 biggest earners like isco, modric, marcelo and Bale all ends in 2022. That is gonna boost their wage structure to sign these players.
I wonder if this will impact the prices clubs value players at?
it does, only oil clubs (chelsea, city & psg) are still free spending. united are rich on their own though
@@nizamknight even United are struggling. We just got lucky with Sancho and Varane. Sancho is paid over 5 years and Varane is paid over 4 years. In comparison to Maguire and AWB, £80m and £45m were both paid upfront to Leicester and Crystal Palace
@@bm__78699 no more signings for utd in the near future then
I think the transfer fee bubble has finally burst. Just no one has realized it yet at the fan level.
Neymar broke the market, the Pandemic will fix the prices to a pre Neymar level outside the Oil Clubs and PL at least.
@@bm__78699 I think is more to do with the pockets of Glaser rather than anything.. since Sancho wage bills is just behind David de gea salary..
It’s no surprise the only teams still pushing for European super league (Barca, Madrid and Juve) all have big financial issues - mostly because of ridiculously inflated wage bills...
I think the ESL is better of two bad choices. Oil states monopolising leagues like in France & England & totally disregarding FFP is far worse in the long term. Whats worse, they are cheating the system. It won't be long before an oil state buys the CL every other year like they buy the PL & Ligue 1 currently.
All clubs have struggled because of the pandemic. You should see how much the PL clubs are into debt. R. Madrid NET debt is nothing compared to them
It's a good idea. If Bayern PSG Juve and LA LIGA clubs join together premier league clubs will b fked
Why would you want to spend money during the pandemic? Also, after spending millions on Hazard they rather wait and make save buys instead of going on the spending spree like Barcelona did and just start buying another 70 or 100 million pounds player whenever the previous gold player failed or got injured.
Maybe cause your squad won nothing last year and is worse this year?
Madrid will struggle to get top 4 this season
@@ulises0717 My squad? It's not my club so you are knocking at the wrong door if you are looking for a catfight. But I will say that they were smart to hire Carlo Ancelloti to bring some stability to the club. He knows the club well and he is used to coach great squads and not-so-great squads, and still get good results out of them.
@@StoutProper Yes, I agree! Atletico, Real Sociedad, Seville, and Bilbao will definitely put on a fight against Real for the top 4 places. That's what you mean, right? I don't see any other clubs in better shape than Real Madrid to be real challengers and contenders for the title. 🤣
Miguel Rosado Relax man I said it as if I was Real Madrid, like thats why you would spend this summer... The Ancelotti thing was cause he wont oppose the President, hes a puppet, he wont say a peep and align 100% with the direction during this
They're waiting for the right time to bid for Mbappe.
are you mad, no one is going to bid for him. He will run his contract down and then go where ever he wants
They will not bid for mbappe, he will be free.
There must be a cap on how much a team can spend based on their turnover (over a 4 year period) and a limit on how much an owner can pump into the club otherwise football will become like Formula 1. Sadly, football at the moment resembles society at large.
Uhmm no. You just look at it from big teams. But people don't see how other teams are also being bought and growing. The premier is getting tighter all because of money. You can't control player movement.
There is a cap in LaLiga based on yearly gains and that's why Barça and other clubs were suffering as revenues fell and thus spending power was decreased.
Great content as always David.
Great podcast, really enjoying this. Please do share how one can begin working for you guys!
They want Mbappe cause they hope he helps the pocketbooks more than anything. They expect Haaland and Mbappe will be the next giant brand of football
Real Madrid get 50% cut of a players image rights. Players like Mbappe and Haaland endorsement earnings could literally pay for their own salaries.
@@iMadrid11 yea.especially for top players..literally sponsors cover all their salaries. Perez once said expensive players are the cheapest ones
I think the Real Madrid plan is a pretty canny one from how i see it...
Modric & Bale are out of contract at the end of the season so that frees up enough in the wage bill to be able to accommodate them and the likes of Kroos, Asensio, Isco and Militao can command decent fees once clubs can spend normally after a year of crowds in. I see M'Bappe & Pogba signing deals with them in January as soon as they are allowed. Haaland will arrive in July for his bargain clause price and Conte will arrive as the new Manager in June with Ancelotti becoming director of football.
But this season's team will go deep in the league and the CL:
Courtois; Carvajal, Nacho, Militao, Alaba; Casemiro, Kroos; Vinicius, Bale, Hazard; Benzema with Rodrygo, Modric, Isco, Asensio & Vasquez from the bench is a serious team and most of them have something to prove.
Modric will renew for 1 more year. Isco, Marcelo, Ceballos, Bale will leave. RM are trying to sell Hazard as well which can open up significant money.
Kroos & Modric will retire in RM after maybe 2-3 years, maybe Marcelo will too (end of this season).
At least Real didn't hold Ronaldo against his will and sold him with good amount of money. Unlike Barca and Messi fiasco
Tebas and La Liga need Real to sign a superstar, as he can't expect that with Barca. Look at how La Liga social medias put anyone they considered stars as their poster boys, they're struggling. Serie A could stick CR7 anytime, Ligue 1 with the addition of Messi now, EPL with their vast number of 2nd tier superstars available. He should relax that financial rule a bit.
Hazard, Coutinho, Suarez, Dembele, Bale, Griezmann, Joao Felix, Modric, Kroos, Kounde and more are still superstars and play in Spain. And then there is the young ones like Valverde, Fati, Pedri, Vinicius, Rodrygo, De jong and soon Mbappe
Bayern are simply not spending either and it worries me. We have been known as smart spenders on most transfers but the board talks about players like Sabitzer (18-20M) as breaking the budget or what not
They have become very careful. I imagine they are not that happy with having spent 80 mil. for Hernandez. But this fear clearly paralyzeses the team.
Mbappe, anyday of the week
Save the money, and buy haaland next summer . Mbappe is coming for free.
Wouldn't it be better to not get mbappe not this year but next year for free and then spend the saved up money on haaland?
Mbappe might sign a new contract, too big a risk for Florentino's reputation
@@saubrma6832 yeah then I'd go all in on mbappe too, but getting mbappe and haaland in the same window would simply be too good to be true anyway
Because Mbop might sign a new contract, not only will that make signing him even harder, but even more expensive
M’Bappe to Liverpool is out of the question then?
was never in question hahahahah
@@iainsteele5737 😂
No one in Liv wanted him. If anyone in EPL it would be PSG.
Mbamppe AND Haaland 😤 people act like they can’t play together lol
What are the financial problems that everton have explained.
Fake news. No issue financial problems there.
@@tellall23 there are, Everton have to be FFP complaint and not spending this year is because of that
Ancelotti was allowed to leave so easily because Moshiri wants to cut payroll
Mbappe to Real Madrid, Kane to PSG.
While Chelsea, Man City & PSG have certainly exacerbated the question of transfer expenditure, wages & funding - it's important to remember the original sinners were Barcelona and Real Madrid who broke records multiple times throughout the 90's and the 00's. It's clearly taken it's toll and now here we are with Europe's biggest clubs at sea because they were banking on a big pay day with the ESL.
Bro you live in the information era yet you are missinformed, how embarrasing, you have access to information two clicks away, for your own good I would not read or listen to the English media when it comes to other footballs clubs or leagues, because they are dishonest and biased and your are proof of that.
@@Almostthere1234 Nah bro you're fake news. Cringe and seethe.
@@AnonNomad typical
@@Almostthere1234 You literally said the exact same to me in a more haughty way, don't bullshit yourself.
Who broke multiple records by the money they earned themselves. Chelsea is still dependent on Abramovic, City's owner opened up a war chest as soon as he came in without the club being able to generate that money themselves, PSG is the exact same case.
I love all the footie talk but i cancelled my subscription solely because of the article by Michael Cox that gave credence to eliminating headers
Lmao. It would be shit without headers, but I do hope it's not a super bad risk of dementia.
🤣🤣🤣 Any knob who give's credence to that idea, even if he doesn't believe it but just writing an article need's to go. You don't want to get dementia, don't play. There's thousands who played the game and never got dementia.
@@europeanroyalty4778 yeah it’s gross , I get wanting to limit head injuries but I mean c’mon now. If you follow his logic , pretty soon they won’t be allowed to kick a ball because people’s toes will have started hurting or some nonsense
The Athletic have around 40 podcasts 😱
Honestly I'm not being paid to say this, subscribing to the athletic is one of the best things to come out of 2021 for me 🤣 love the insight
Such a great show, hate those BS fans talk type of videos
They were ready to pay around 220m for mbappe😬🤭
4 hours ago they put a bid in for mbappe lol
Beginning of the end for Real Madrid spending. If they need to save money year on year to make a big purchases, how can they compete with Man City, Chelsea who are able to spend £100m-£200m ever year? This reminds me to AC Milan, who were the big spenders in the 80s-90s.
Real madrid had many Brilliant decades...unlike ac milan or other clubs which was relevant in an era or two...real was big in 60s late 80s 90s...00s...10s...won ucl in all these different decades...
@@subhajitroy7706 real won the first 6 European titles when no one cares for that cup.
That's not the case. R. Madrid wasn't spending money because of the pandemic and are a well run club unlike those clubs you mentioned. Now they have the money to spend bigger than anyone else. Shitty can spend 100M on Grealish, Madrid will spend that on Mbappe.
@@edd0f I’m sure Real Madrid got into so much debt previously that their government had to bail them out?
@@lucasmoreno5330 still somone had to win those....n its like saying Uruguaya isnt worthy f being wc winners in the 30s when there was only13 teams in it!! N real was the team that time having players like pukas di stefano gento in it...not many clubs had these kinda players!having them only makes a club great...n real only won the liga 1 ssn earlier...n reached the ucl semis last year...n lost the league on the last day of the ssn...n u r comparing them with ac milan!
It's just Financial fair play
Ancelotti screwed Everton over big time
He kinda joined Madrid for half the salary he was getting ar Everton.
It was personal
@@saubrma6832 so what?
He slid out there so slyly
wHAT IS THE TURTH ABOUT bARCELONA'S MONEY ISSUES DAVID AND DERMOT?? I hear 1.5Bil to 2.7Bil in arrears?? Which is it.. It's a huge difference in the amount
Tbh, your app sucks for finding podcasts.
Mbappe & Haaland are needed at Real Madrid.
Benzema just signed a contract extension, so maybe no Haaland next season.
@@kingmonde only until 2023 he will be 35 by then I'm pretty sure real will go for both as benzema needs to be replaced in the next two years
Well looks like they’ll be happy to by Kylian by rye end of the window, or sign him as a free agent summer 2022.
Because they don’t have it
It would be really funny if Real Madrid got neither of them 😂
Wont happen....mbappe will come..
@@subhajitroy7706 you're in his DMs aren't you 😂.
@@nightnomad635 u dont have to be in someone's dm...u just have to be aware about footballing world...n how these transfers work
You're certainty is amazing. I'm surprised you're not a fortune teller. Maybe you can help Real Madrid out with the lottery numbers since they need the money
@@nightnomad635 go to the clubs website ull see official report about equity n cash that club has right now
..😊580 mil equity n 122 cash....today sold odegaard wage plus fees 40 mil plus....I thinks that's not bad...made 450k euros in profit...not negative like other clubs...just wait n watch
David Pornstein - Arsenal Legend
Maybe the king of Spain found a new hobby
Save time, answer = they have no money!!
U don't know Perez😂😂
You their accountant?
It would be stupid to buy mbappe now for anything more than 110 million since he can come for free next summer. One year is not worth that much. Perez is so fixated on Mbappe tho that I think he will do it. He's willing to throw away the balance of the team for mbappe. We need another center back this summer and he wont buy one as long as he dreams about mbappe. Also means we probably wont be able to get haaland next summer if we buy mbappe for too much now. He should've learned his lesson with hazard after overpaying with a year left there. It just became an even worse deal afterwards due to his injuries
It's not stupid because Perez wants to keep a good relationship with PSG and getting him free will piss them off. Barca wanted to sign Verrati and PSG retaliated getting Neymar and now Messi. Perez has great relationship with all clubs so they can sit and negotiate for player. Barcelona's tactic is to tell the player to not go and train until he is sold and now clubs like Dortmund and Liverpool hate Barcelona. Hazard was worth that much money because he was the best in the PL, but he was careless with fitness and unlucky with an ankle injury.
BTW, there is enough money for Haaland and more players for next season.
If you say the athletic one more time I will internally combust
Unless Perez is gone, the sh*tshow will continue
How the hell do these guys expect football fans to pay for their content when they regurgitate the same stuff other media outlets do. I get sky and talksport jus get ex players who have no clue but these guys are not giving something more that's worth paying for. I would say sky sports have more access and knowledge than these guys. They sit journalists outside clubs all day and always know when medicals etc are happening
Mbappe AND Haaland
both
This is a poor financial análisis of Real Madrid vs the rest of Europa; no single one club has strongers financial situación than Real Madrid
Chelsea, Bayern, Manchester City, PSG, hell, even Man United
@@saptaccrvima3563 if I was you, I would not talking about something I dont know anything about cuz you embarrassing yourself buddy
@@Almostthere1234 If I was you, I'd pay for some English courses
@@saptaccrvima3563 it is my fourth language so I have no need for it
@@Almostthere1234 you obviously need to, since it's one of the most used languages in the world
City break FFP - 0 Proof
Real,Barca in Debt - dont break FFP?
😂😂
for many clubs its true that's why psg don't wanted to be in esl 🤣🤣 tbh it has killed Ligue 1 already n may kill football someday
Mbappe Definitely
i am unever of any contact renewal offer to leo pessi before July 2021
name s pronunciation is just painful to hear
Dedinitely Haaland. He will score, regardless.
They are saving money for Supercup. They are going to buy Mbappe and drop out of UEFA. With PSG(messi) along. Thats a big impact to the football market.
Mbappe
Mbappe haaland will replace lewy
I don't see that happening, his wage demands are too big and bayern don't operate like that usually.
@@taaaaaaaazzzzzz Isn't Lewandowski on massive wages? Haaland's release clause is big, but not too big for a generational talent that's right under their nose
@@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 No, the release clause is fine. I am talking about the wages he demands. and probably also the bonuses for mino raiola
@@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 Lewandowski is on about 20mil a year if I'm correct. Raiola and Haaland demand 35mil a year, if the leak in April was correct.
@@taaaaaaaazzzzzz Wow, at this point top players are pricing themselves out of moves
Wardrobe is a dead background
HAALAND!!!!
Because they're broke.
MBAPPE
To me neither player will make a difference to Real, both are world class and are the future, but Real have more structural problems. If I was to have to choose I would say Harland, for the only reason being me being a Liverpool supporter and I would love Mbappe at LFC. I also thing Harland is like a spoilt brat and so would suit Real
Structural problems as in?
this aged poorly
I hate perez so much but his mind is something else
Most influential person in football
La Liga is dying, like how Serie A suffered. And this maybe the upcoming fate of the EPL. Wasting money to get glories with little to return.
The tv deal for the premier league will stop it going the same way as Spain
@@jonny26281 Drying successes... EPL has plenty of successful clubs, but it fails to transcend into the national side - something Spain and Italy had achieved but not England. EPL, in other words, is a double-edged sword killing English football. If England can't achieve any international success, EPL is a waste of England. That's why there are calls to limit foreign players in EPL to save English football from a catastrophe.
Real aren’t spending as they are like 900 million in debt just behind Barcelona aren’t they?
Educate yourself and then come back
the net debt is just €46m as of now, the rest debt has to be paid in 30 years with €30m/year instalment as it was loaned for the stadium reconstruction. They aren’t spending money cz they aren’t owned by a rich oil owner, they can only spend what they earn and cz of Covid they aren’t able to generate revenue which will be back to normal once the lockdown restrictions ease of, so they’ll be back to competing with the oil clubs
Real Madrid should be ban for 3 season
What a useless question. Real Madrid stopped spending, because they don't have money to spend. They are in financial trouble. Didn't you know, all world know for the last 10 months or so.
All clubs are in financial trouble. R. Madrid's strategy was to keep loses low and save money. Look at them now signing Mbappe this weekend. No other rich club can do that
real have a debt they owe the bank but they have like 30 years to repay that loan. but after the pandemic they're not making profits
@@edd0f they are signing Mbappe in their dreams, not in real world. Do you really believe it? Have a grip with reality, please.
@@nicolemonkeviciene791 HAHAHA I wish I could see your reaction when you realize who else is coming to Madrid next Summer.
@@edd0f my reaction is normal and I know quite a lot about football gossip. Are you talking about Haaland coming next summer? I would believe Mbappe to Real next summer, when he will be free agent. It would suit both parties, but not this weekend. Come on.
Because the Spanish gvt and by extension the EU has no more funds to bank out Real, Barcelona, etc so they'll have to live within their means for a change. We'll see if they'll be dominating Europe now...
Look at Chelsea, City and tell me how they're living within their means. Utterly stupid statement, RM, Barca always have spent what they earned, they just earned much more than oil clubs did.
@@aakashdeep2298 Someone here has a very naive view of Europe and football in general. Right or wrong, it's mostly private funds being pumped into UK clubs by wealthy owners. On the other hand, RM, Barcelona, and other Spanish clubs have benefitted from public funds to pay salaries, transfers, stadiums, etc,...
Fact is.... Madrid don’t have a good enough team on the pitch to attract Mbappe.
Its real Madrid..the name is enough. KAKA signed when real was getting knocked out in round of 16 cr7 just after winning UCL with ManU.Playing for Madrid is never just about money
Madrid riddled with 63 injuries reached UCL SF last season. Kroos, Casemiro, Modric are still performing who'll be replaced by Camavinga & Fede Valverde when time comes. Vinicius is performing, Militao, Alaba have struck up a partnership. There's good enough team to attract Mbappe.
This is not true, Florentino Pérez fckd the el Bernabéu project and there was a error set back that will cost €200millions and guess whos getting that money? Certain building firm
Saw no such news.whats your source..you are talking about something prominent Spanish news like marca as ignored as well sites goal espn.if what you are saying is legit they would have reported it especially Catalan newspapers
Mbappe