Are Peugeots Too Weird For Japan? | Top Gear
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
- What makes a good car great? The Peugeot 308 is a good car, it’s got intriguing looks, is practical and good to drive. But that doesn’t make it a great car. To do that you need something more. Something special. So to try and find some ‘special’, Top Gear Magazine’s Tom Ford heads to Japan (home to some great cars) to see if he can sprinkle some magic on the funky French hatch.
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The 308 in design alone, is truly a desirable car
But it has no real motor though, shame
@@geronimooo260 For what? Driving 120kph on the highway?
@@geronimooo260 Dude, they made a 360hp 508 and they only sold 2.000 units, ¿why would they bother to make more powerful cars if nobody is going to buy them?
@@petouserbut they are far behind in engines now. The only full gasoline engine is a 3 cylinders 1,2l 130hp with a very bad reliability! The only hybrid is a 1,6l and a 1,5 diesel.
They'd only work amon design and upgrade interior, but chassis are well calibrated but not extraordinary, even an ordinary Corrolla got a double wishbone in the rear suspension system, whereas this 308 got a basic torsion beam!
I used to like Peugeot in the 90s.
@@phenixdev7276 It’s a poor 1.6 hybrid, that’s why they didn’t sold any
Hi, I'm Japanese. The 308 is my dream car!
I fell in love with it.
Please update me if you ever buy one!
So nice to see Top Gear in Japan! The guy from AZ auto (Kodama-san?) actually said he like the fact that seats and suspension feelings of French cars have been consistent for a long time, according to him maybe because they are designed to be comfortable on the paved streets of Paris. So much lost in translation with these apps, good thing for pro translators and interpreters who are not out of a job yet :)
Wow Top Gear in Japan? You guys should definitely collaborate with Yutaka Yamagishi, he reviews vintage and extremely rare cars in Japan. His content is top tier. Btw been a fan of this show for over a decade now.
they were probably there months ago my dudd
Can you suggest me a channel for Japanese automobiles review
@@VaibhavSingh-ty4hf from Japan definitely Yutaka Yamagishi, he has the best channel.
@@zukacs thought so.
@@rodyinjapan 👍
Fantastic! This is the best piece of TG journalism and content in a very long while. Excellent, Mr. Ford. So intriguing the mix of Japanese and French. And yes exactly that little something extra is all that is needed. That said the new 308 is a brilliant car. Would take over a Golf and the like any day. Thank you. Excellent content!
Keith, you need to get out more.
@@jep1912 i think he does, car guy momen
Agreed! The old TG guys were just obnoxiously British. I feel way more comfortable without the unfunny humor and a more American way of journalism.
Great cinematography. This was a good episode.
They produce this great content with 8 mill subscribers, yet somehow it gets less than 100k views. I'm a subscriber and it only popped into my feed 11 days after its posted, don't get the RUclips algorithm
Tom ford is the best when it comes to explaining in details about cars
I love this man so much!
You will get thrown off a building if your mates catch you saying that.....
The new Top Gear is so much better and I feel it's more suitable for us Americans as well. We're not so much into British humor and I feel Tom Ford suits us way more.
@@ralfzacherl9942 My god, the arrogance. Did it ever accour to you Americans that we don’t care how you feel?
Let’s not make it not about Americans…
@@87sandyD actually you do care…
I really like his review since Fifth gear.
As an American in Korea, I love that this piece is willing to acknowledge the difficulties of getting by with mostly English and a translation app in a country where English isn't the predominate language. Kudos for transparency!
Peugeot is original brand in Japan.
Many people in Japan own a Peugeot cars for a special reason.
choose for unique reasons.
Most people choose it because of its design and function.
A long time ago it was a brand with idiosyncrasies, but now it is not.
Recently, more and more people in Japan are interested in French cars.
It's a brand that everyone knows if they like cars.
I've seen some Renault cars in Japan because of the Renault-Nissan groupe selling them in Nissan dealerships and most of them were high spec cars, as a French guy it is quite special seeing a familiar face in a place that is foreign to that ^^
Greetings from Japanese french car lover who moved to the UK recently - I used to drive 1991 Renault 4 GTL in Yokohama, Japan and loved it (was living actually pretty nearby AZauto). I totally understand that french car's charm is being very french, though each manufactures have those in slightly different ways. I like Peugeot's aggressiveness in their design, Citroen's unique and agile feelings, and Renault's "cheap but in good way" feeling and simpleness... especially someone from a country which has Toyota locally, uniqueness and character are almost only key factor to buy European import to be completely honest.
I do really wish European car manufacturers will continue to express their characters storongly in the future... I love how I can avoid buying Toyota just because "it's not something like Toyota, and I love that!"
I think you have a better understanding of the French makers' brand values than millions of Europeans. In fact, better than most managers at Peugeot, Citroen and Renault.
I had a 2-door 306 back in the early 2000s. My god what a fun car. It even had limited steering on the rear wheels to help on corners, it was a monster. Loved that car to death.
You would think Japan would be crazy about Peugeots with their current designs that are futuristic and exotic, even by their standards.
Ferrari 412 at 6:55 is rather a crazy thing to be seen and not seen in Japan at the same time!
A keen eye you have! Blink and you'll miss it.
Well You arent the lone person that seen it 😅
Dudes. What a lovely piece of journalism. Keep it up.
A 2CV, owned one nearly 50 years ago. My first car, one of the most fun cars as well.
I definitely think the new 208 and 308 are strong contenders to be in the cool section on the cool wall
we love French cars in Japan 👌🏼
A road going 9x8 would sound cool
At AZ Motors, the 405 is actually a 406 and the 205 is no GTI but CTI. And I’d have any of those Fiats instead of the Peugeots. 😊
Nah, fiat
^^
why not both 😁
if you never drove a 306, you're missing out.
@@R0wz0r I had a 309GTI which is almost as good, especially the steering. But the quality.. oh shit. I went straght back to italian cars, at least you can FIX them when they break. 😄
What Peugeot has produced is a good all rounder. My golf mark 7 is also a good all rounder although the Peugeot is more stylish. Both easy to like. But not love. Weirdly a 12 year old Mazda 3 we had as a second car for a while was easier to love. It was quite flawed mostly due to its age and lacked creature comforts like cruise, had a heavy clutch, cheap interior and I'd grab the golf for a long trip every time. But it had a zing about the way it drove. Even at 30 in town. Combination of relatively short gearing, a willing engine and lovely hydraulic steering that gave it good feel and agility. Even though I could corner 10mph faster in the golf the Mazda felt more alive. Which would I rather own. The golf. Which would I rather grab for a quick journey to get something from the shops. The Mazda every time. I owned a mark 1 focus and that was the same. It wasn't very well insulated though and noisy at speed. Especially road noise. I replaced that with a mark 2 and it was better car in everyway but it took about a week to miss the way the mark 1 drove. The magic had gone. Other cars I have loved from my family include a Porsche boxster S mark 1 which had an exhaust note that I adored and most of the BMWs I grew up with. The lovely sound of those straight 6 petrol engines. More recently the AMG 55 SLK sends a tingle down ones spine.
The music is magnificently pleasant !!
Thank you for enjoying in Japan.
My car is MINI R55.
I enjoy driving around Mt.Fuji in this car.
My dream is to drive a MINI around the UK!
I'm just happy to see Renault 4 in Japan, pride of Slovenia:)
The 308 is gorgeous. I wish Stellantis would find a way to bring it to the States.
The 308 wouldn't sell in the States. The 5008 might. Ford stopped selling "cars" for a reason.
They could badge it as a Chrysler I guess but nobody would buy a Chrysler hatchback 😂
@@judygillespie3717 Hatchbacks are dead! Even French car makers are selling hatchbacks which look like SUVs. The Peugeot 2008 and Renault Captur are basically the same as a Toyota CHR.
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q The 208 is a small hatchback and is still among the top 3 best selling cars in Europe after taking the lead in 2021-2022. It’s a few places ahead of the Golf which I believe is currently in 10th place according to Autocar’s research!
This is subject matter that deserves a full length film, traveling the globe interviewing (with translators on hand when necessary) odd ball dealers and deep diving into car cultures around the globe. Revisit Clarkson's (I believe) Motorworld. That series was clearly killed off far too early. This video, while great, was merely an amuse bouche on the topic of what makes a car special. Again, great to have Tom back on RUclips and TG.
Brilliant review, Tom! It reminded me of when I visited Tokyo back in 2018 and toured the Tatsumi P.A. I miss Japan!
My first car is a Peugeot 208. A great car and reliable and comfortable. A really great first car
The imported cars that are popular in Japan are the premium range, and most of the utility class is covered by domestic cars led by Toyota. Among them, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault and Fiat are the manufacturers who are doing their best. On the other hand, Ford had no choice but to withdraw because it neglected sales efforts.
That's why German manufacturers are some of the only broadly existing foreign cars in Japan. They fill in very nicely in the premium range. For budget to midrange cars, Japanese cars are unbeatable domenstically there. In Japan, Japanese cars are much cheaper than in Europe or in the US. It really hurts to see how much more expensive a Honda Civic or a Toyota Yaris, for instance, is in Europe.
I personally really like the new 208s and 308s
Japan and Japanese people are so awesome.
Best film I've seen from TG in a while, more of this please!
As a car guy, I get it. The complete joy & love of cars.
Great job!!! Keep such stories coming
Love the new top gear content!! Fantastic film.
Great to see Tom, and what an inspired video. Great stuff
Still remember his Citroën C6 review. This man is great.
Finaly. After years a brilliant content from TG. Thumbs up to Mr. Ford... this was very exciting to see and hear... (Y)
I had a 205 20 years ago and misses it so much
I rented a few small hatchbacks (HB20, Polo, Clio, etc.) and from all these shitty boxes I was pretty happy with the 208. All cars had similar quality, but the 208 had a nice modern look and interior (the 308 shares this sleek interior). The only thing that really bothered me was the throttle pedal angle. It fatigued A LOT my foot
I had the same issue on the new C3…
So long story short, it's exactly why the Italian cars are so loved despite their flaws. A car has to have passion.
I bought this 308 in january last and i absolutely love it
Good ending explanation! Love it 👍
one of very nice review, cheers
We need more Tom Ford, i always liked his bits in the old days of Fifth Gear.
great content, thanks for the effort
Love it! Ive had the previous 308 and now have the 2008 as my daily driver to commute to work, and they are brilliant!
Wookie back on Top Gear? Love him.
Tom Ford! A joy having you back on my screen, in a different ‘gear’ to yesteryear
I went to Japan and I saw a Citroen XM, a DS3, a Peugeot 3008 and a Renault Avantime. I was suprised and also pride of it as I am french :)
I just brought a second hand mk1 308 sw...I just needed a estate car, didn't care for it much when buying it..but have fallen in love with it since! So I would love a brand new up to date version.
Peugeot are awesome ! Powertrain and road feeling
That blue sticker of the lion tossing Biscione... 😏
Sometimes character comes from a flaw, something that is ultimately annoying but it's why you love the car
My first car was a C4 Lounge, I crashed it and now I have a C3 G2 with the big ass windscreen. I love both of them and I want a 308 SO bad! I love the 208 too but it's smaller then my C3 and I'm feeling kinda limited by it.
Most interesting Top Gear video I have seen in years
Not to mention Peugeot building cars like the 504, rugged, dependable & character for their current & future models hopefully.
Song in the carpark was Tokyo by Nbdy Nprtnt if anyone was wondering
Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾
Personally I really like the new 208s and 308s 👍👍👍
Any car looks absolutely at home in Japan. It is the proper habitat for anything with wheels tbh.
good production video quality, I hope you guys visit Max & Maaya Orido and talk about his Trueno & her GR86
An anime wrap in the first 5 seconds? LOVE IT
Something special makes a car special. Could be extreme styling, big performance numbers, quirky features or a complete break from convention. For some cars which aren't special it could be the epitomy of that style of car or brand.
OMG Tom Ford is back! I haven't seen you since Fifth Gear, dude! So glad to have you on Top Gear! You've lost a ton of weight and you haven't aged a day! Nice mate
Japan's car market tends to be protectionist in the past. For the general population in Japan, the impact of protectionist policies on the car market is very long lasting. Only enthusiasts and ppl with loads of money in Japan would buy cars made by non-Japanese brands (including Korean ones, which do attract a small number of buyers back in 2003-2005).
Sweet concept
I’m old enough to remember Peugeot pulled out of US market. I actually like the 405 and 505. They just faded away like the Fiats and Alpha.
Can you guys distinguish between the rear ends of a VW Golf Mk8, Peugeot 308 and an Open Astra ?
I'm french and you are very, very good !
🙏
Visiting Tokyo and I saw a 3008 with 3008 plate the other day. Cool I guess?
Tbh theirs only 2 or 3 classic peugeot that are really cool.. The rest are just normal, but those current peugeot design will probably be some future classic car
I wonder when they filmed this - as it isn’t Winter weather in this video - it looks like at the latest September last year.
It was in September in fact, they were there for the 6hr race of Fuji.
Awesome film!
More Tom Ford content please!
My 1999 Peugeot 306 xsi was imported to New Zealand from japan around 2004. Someone one at least had enthusiasm for it back then. Granted that was probably the last of peugeots decent driving cars.
That little green car is a gem in my opinion. Its styling weakness are those ridiculously generic Wheels. Give it an interesting exhaust note & better wheels.
Fantastic presentation I’m your new subscriber Thank You
Such a great video. And a great reminder of how good a presenter “Wookie” is
When I was in Japan in 2019, apart from German cars, the most non-japanese cars I saw were Citroens, Peugeots and Volvos.
Everyone please come to Japan!
Thnx, ☺️
6:29 I understood that reference!
I love Tom Ford's writing.
8:42 What is that red 2-door spyder Renault at the background ?
I remember Tom from fifth gear, he was great
in that spec, the car looks AMAZING. i mean, i wouldn't want one for myself, but try to convince my wife to get one haha
What was that song playing in the background while showing Daikoku
With the recent Peugeot designs I really wish they would make a light weight (roadster) sports-car, like the MX-5 or the GR-86
No longer being made but have a look at the RCZ.
Those are mid weight sports cars
I live in Japan and lately Puegot are getting popular. My uncle bought one just this year, in my neighbor there's 3 already!
While BMW there's only 2 of us and 2 benz. Love the design I'm still just not ready to get one yet
Interesting that Japanese are changing from driving Toyotas, Mitsubishis, Nissans, Hondas to drive imported cars. While people around the world are driving Japanese cars.
@@Alozhatos I think there are foreign car lovers here. Of course it's still more than 90% JDM cars, and people who likes imports will buy imports like me ;)
Lexus is still #1 in luxury in Japan though.
Hope it never change since japan is struggling with its economy
Fantastic film
I'm ready to bet that if Peugeot went "more Peugeot", no one would buy them, and the auto journalists would shit on them. They're heading in the right direction, and they're making good and beautiful cars.
Should’ve homologated a rally car when they were winning in the early 2000’s. Lost opportunity
our family used to have a peugeot 206, despite being smoked by others in their jazz and being aped in terms of interior space by yaris, i still loved mine, it wasnt spacious nor fast, but that car felt comfortably different... we had 207 and today our family had a 2008... while it gets more and more stylish, that feeling is recently only a skin deep... dynamic wise, it has diminished by quite some bit. The car felt les and less organic, unlike what like it used to be.
Tom ford is best explainer of Cars
I saw New Peugeot SUV sometimes in Tokyo.
In the video ‘Itasha why anime cars on cars?’ form noriyaro i got very exited because there was an Peugeot RC-Z
Nice car show...... Good vedio
I'm so impressed by Peugeot!
I’ve had 5 Peugeots over past 15 years. Just love them, even though there are better cars.
Nothing is too weird for Japan!!! 😏
6:55 is that a Ferrari 2+2 casually sitting outside a garage?
Buy this man a human translator next time, Top Gear. Great vid!