Who Trained the Original Timeline Flash? - The Flash Theory
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HEy everyone! this is my Theory video going over Who could've Trained the Original Timeline Flash! Hope you enjoy!
Why does reverse flash keeping coming back after they killed him just like the legends and flash keep killed him that’s very confusing everytime
Tina McGhee trained the original flash.
I ask this : How reverse flash is always erased from existence and he always comes back ? we saw this on flash season one and legends of tomorrow season 2. Thanks
It was Harrison Wells AKA "Timeless" Wells who is the one Eobard murdered after killing Barry's mother
There is no way barry would tell Joe only cuz he wouldn't know Joe all that well. He would have his parents but Joe was basically the father of the girl he likes
We was just SOLO in the original timeline. He trained himself and learned how to be the flash himself. He also created Gideon alone and got promoted to Captain of the CSI department alone as well.
I think so too
and he kept his parent aswell!!
Ig he'd be the Tony Stark of the CWverse
Yes you are correct. This original barry who has been CSI head and the flash is the only one.
However, we are watching the flash seasons till s8 are of Reverse flash's timeline where he travelled back to 2000 and killed Nora allen and created Reverse Flashpoint..
He probably was with iris too since he in season one he was distracted by other things basically flash point if wells didn’t die
an interesting theory is that the original wells particle accelerator was different and it gave barry super speed thinking after he wakes up from his coma so for a few months he is by himself and after that he builds gideon. I think he builds her so people can save the world through science and unlike the artificial speed force, his emotions remain the same. Due to this, his emotions override his super-speed thinking that's why he thought that Gideon was unhackable but she falls into wrong hands allowing Eobard to plan this in the first place
Wellsbard picked Cisco and Caitlin because he knew they where the smartest of the bunch but also the ones who didnt get into trouble and where given specific tasks the ones you get so you wont have time to snoop around like Hartley did
probably
True
Maybe no one trained him and he just learned as he progressed like tobeys Spider-Man did. You don't always need someone to train you to do something, especially if you are the first at something like a superpower
In the comics he trains himself and original timeline Barry is closer to the comic.
I know they probably won't do this, but I'd love to see a spin off mini series from the Original Timeline Flash's perspective. From the time he became The Flash in 2020 to when he had his final fight with Reverse Flash that we saw in the show.
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I think og barry became new barry. This happened after he came back from saving himself and sees his mother is dead and is losimg his memories everytime he uses his speed. Remember when barry made flashpoint he was losing his memories as the timeline was settting in. So eventually og barry became new barry as the new timeline set it.
Don’t think the original team if there was one had Cisco and Caitlin as wellsabard does say in season 1 when they try and make him confess their lives are so much more better now because of him. So I don’t think they ever were part of team flash, maybe may have been meta humans just not as well known. It’s hard to tell what was from the OG timeline and what wasn’t as thawne knows about multiple timelines so when he gives a little Easter egg of knowledge it’s hard to know which timeline it is from
he wouldn't tell
joe in the original timeline he wouldn't have lived with them
Oh shit true.
@@Flashverse12 2 Ieft Episodes : have to write about 5 ways about reverse flash Thawne cliffhanger miss beat until Barry is death and the flash Season 8 Leaked Scenes Coming Reverse-Flash to kill you in season 8 to be continued
Like comics I guess
@@Flashverse12 this actually blows my mind.. because we remember in the flashpoint episode where flash stop reverse flash from killing Nora, he keeps his speed because well. Harrison Wells made particle explosion that explodes in 2020 and made Flash the Flash, and he didn't live with Joe. basically that whole episode is about the original timeline... oh my god
@@Wizzell About the original timeline if Barry always lived in the shadows. Also, it was in 2017 so definitely not original timeline.
Our barry IS the OG timeline Flash. Start thinking about it. It is all a loop. Our Barry aka the flash will meet young reverse flash he said in Armageddon. The flash will "humiliate" him by rescuing the crowd and then going back to his time. Eobard Thawne figures out how to get faster and faster to defeat the flash, or to destroy him. In a certain point time reverse flash makes up the plan to kill young barry. Reverse flash gets back to "the night", OUR barry follows him somehow. Our barry knows what will happen and what HAS to happen. He knows that he cant save his mother because of the timeline. (Because this future Barry, OUR future barry already went through all of it, flashpoint, …). That’s why barry save his younger self and just went back to his time without looking back.
And remember when our barry went back in time in season 1 to "the night". Our barry was about to save his mother but future barry (but also OUR barry from the future) warned him not to do it by his hand because future knew what will happen because future barry already done it once (flashpoint).
you mentioned a theory one time in a video that OG flash trained himself. I think that’s not true OG Flash was always OUR Barry
I think the plot of Season 9 will be about how our barry will meet young reverse flash. And we will also our barry going back to "the night" again to save his younger self. And this it all began.
Season 1 picked up from there.
And that’s called a loop
I guess so
Iam sorry, do you think Barry will become the flash if his mother didn't get killed ?
That actually makes sense 🤯
But, you can see the future original timeline 2020flash lightning was "yellow" when he get child barry out of the house to save from reverse flash.
1) How you explain about Thawne when stole Wells body said that the particle accelerator is exploded in 2020 changing the entire course of history?
2) Why Thawne in season 5 call Nora, Dawn and after that he said :"time travels are so weired"?
3) When Barry create flashpoint, he kidnapped Thawne and imprisoned him in the flashpoint timeline, Thawne said :"Future you is not that stupid" like he was refeering to another person.
4) When Nora confronts Thawne imprisoned in future, Thawne said that night have a great impact on Barry and Nora and he still think at that night everyday.
Maybe Barry will meet the original timeline Flash in the last season by going back to 2000 & grabbing him before he disappears & we can find out what happens to him, than we see disappear again & than in the series finale Barry & Eobard Battle but this time Barry Saves his Mom & grabs original timeline Flash again & he tells him who he is & than they team up & take down Eobard for good & than Barry put powering damming cuffs on him & decides to not bring him to the authorities but to trap him in the Speedforce with no powers so Barry injects with the Metahuman cure & than he says good by to Original Timeline Barry & they say good luck to each other in the Speedforce than OT Barry runs & time travels back to 2024 with the timeline back in tack his timeline now exist again & than Barry tells the SF to lock Eobard in a cell for eternity & the SF does & than Barry runs & goes to 2024 as well & than when he gets out of the SF he starts being erased from existence so he talks to the SF & begs for help & than a portal opened & the Speed Force came out with it’s true form & says u can’t stay in existence & that only thing u can do is fulfill your destiny by becoming the ⚡️that struck & gave Barry his SF powers so that happens & than cut to the original timeline in 2024 which is the main timeline again for Earth Prime, cut
Eric wallace said that the flash will have a happy end ,also, my question is why Eobard that night doesn't disappear as og flash? Maybe cause og flash is not disappeared, he still out there somewhere or maybe og flash is not arrived in our future (season 9) and he will arrive in the very end of season 9.
@@cristianmilito2978 im not sure but if we see the difference in the suite of the og flash is like our barry's S7 suite.. our barry is now very fastest..than that yellow lightning OG barry...
@@weaponmonsters7874 og barry was still as fast as thawne
It makes sense that Savitar wanted to go back in time to hurt Barry, but how did he find out he was supposed to become Savitar
Its an infinite loop
Bootstrap Paradox
bad writing, the writers put themselves in a whole. this one youtuber made it more evident to me because savitar said “the more you time travel, the less the rules apply to you” which when u think about the laws of physics, that statement is nonsense 😂
@@fetty_gwaah it's call time you can't understand it if we could we would be Immortal or able to time travel just because your Puny mind can't Comprehend that doesn't mean it's bad writing that's just how time works especially for a speedster
I think he was trained by the actual Harrison Wells because if you remember eobard said to Wells before he took his body that he was gunna create star labs and his success. And that's what eobard did exactly what was supposed to happen but in the original timeline is was him the actual well that took berry in an helped him with Cisco and Katie. And eobard was just another bad guys who went to kill his mom and berry went after him and won but because of how time travel works berry never knew and only eobard did. Idk just my guess.
Dope theory..I think Eobard is the type to recreate the exact circumstances when creating flash..so he mustve known the type of people he needs in his life..from the first timeline.
This dude even knew the names of people from the future's history books.he placed everyone where they were already.
Maybe Jay Garrick of the OG Timeline helped "teach/coach" Barry.
PERSONALLY I think in the original timeline things were actually more comic accurate NO team flash, probably no Joe west either (he was only created for the show just like Harrison Wells) so Barry just taught himself and honestly he seems A SHIT TON MORE ABLE TO do things and NOT need a fuckin “heartwarming” speech about “you can do it Barry” no just man up and do it, the Barry WE’VE been following gets babied by EVERYONE around him and they make our Barry stupid asf when he SHOULD be 10 times smarter than Cecil, Allegra, EVEN CHESTER and obviously Iris when it actually comes to meta related or science related but nope they writers make Barry a joke yet again for his final season
Anyone who picked a comic would know that. Barry gets sh*t done in the comics. Og timeline Barry was that flash even thawn acknowledged it multiple times in both season 1 episode 23 and season 3 episode 1.
We need the flash original timeline movie vote 👇
I always thought of it as the flash can’t exist without his reverse and the reverse can’t exist without the flash a paradox.
Perhaps original timeline flash trained alongside Tina McGee at Mercury Labs?
Just a thought
Like the others I believe OG Barry trained himself. Because the only reason why Cisco and Caitlin all came together was because of Thawne, which he selectively picked to form Team Flash to rush Barry to get his full potential.
I think Oliver trains him in the original timeline. The first thing he did when he hit speed was run to starling city to get Oliver’s advice. I think it makes sense that he trained him with no wells around
In the series im pretty sure eobart says that it was cisco and caitlins destiny to be on team flash but I could be mistaken
I think that we will have og flash, cause in a recent interview Eric Wallace said to see specifically the episode 17 of season 1 and above and after, he said that have make too much spoil (laugh), i think that he refer to when Eobard stole Wells body and said the particle accelerator has exploded in 2020 changing the entire course of history (refer to the original timeline), damn is a clear sign that exist this time point!
Very very nice bro
Where i can see this interview?
@@Rachebart You are welcome: ruclips.net/video/3hINA0vRQb4/видео.html
Theory : Savitar killed The Original Flash timeline Iris . Whoever Savitar was , he killed Iris we know this for a fact because this had to happen for this to be changed . Iris seemly dies Barry creates a time remnant so that he can become Savitar the Savitar we know in season 3 . But to save Iris Original Timeline Flash transforms Iris into Giddeon and Reverse Flash having Giddeon is like taking something so intimate to The Flash the original who he hates so much
Probably
This couldn’t have happened because the reason Savitar and the S.3 meta’s were created is because Barry time traveled to saved his mom and then traveled back to kill her thus creating Savitar
this barry was actually smart, he created gideon, trained himself and could also work out problems on his own and tailored his own suit
Great theory video
Thanks
New set photos for season 8 are out we see despero concept art its so good
I saw
there is a few problems but the key problem is that the beginning is the origin meaning it would have always been like that
6:31 I don’t think he’d tell Joe because the original timeline flash grew up with his real parents so Barry may not have trusted him as much
i don't think it was harrison wells that tought him, because in a much earlier season when eobard thawne found out what timeline the flash is from he didn't know his name, his co workers or his mentor, but when they caught him and cisco came down to talk to him, he revealed his identity to eobard thawne that hasn(t killed his mother yet, so what cisco said is that he gave him his powers and that he is the one who caught him, and this is the reason why he hired cisco in the first place because it was at that time he realised he needed him, further more harry came down to open his cel so he could send him back to his timeline but he revealed that he was the mastermined and this is the time he needed to become him when he got trapped, but he also didn't know his name or anything about him, so what i would think is that barry in fact didn't have anybody to teach him but hee was helped by the speedforce in some way, because this also means he never became a csi his mother didn't die and he never met joe or iris, we don't even know if the original got struck by lightning for a fact
When Nora comes to their timeline, she mentioned that the suit in the ring wasn't designed by Cisco but she knows both of them. Yes, but how?
When you get famous plz don't forget us as the ogs
Never
Fun fact a theory is in science the highest thing something can be in science due to numerous amounts of reliable verifiable data that can be repeated over and over again getting the same positive results while what most people think of theory is really a hypothesis which is more or less a guess or hunch.
That would make sense for Thawne to employ Cisco and Caitlin to keep the future timeline from changing drastically as much as possible and he probably knew in the future that they both helped train Barry.
Excited for the "what if" part 2
My thoughts: The original timeline Flash was older andhad more science under his belt, so that helped. Also, he disappeared during the Crisis, meaning that there were also other metahumans by then. It's entirely possible that by the time the original timeline Flash appeared, there were already other metahuman heroes in the world, possibly even Superman, who helped train Barry. In the original timeline, the League may have already existed. It would stand to reason that Thawn would want to get the hell out of Dodge before the League appeared because they might be able to stop him. He could have even helped to prevent the League from forming. He'd have had ALL of that information available to him in the future and we don't know everything he did in the years between replacing Wells and causing the explosion that created The Flash and most of the Rouges. Also, the Rouges would have been older when they got their powers in the original timeline so it's possible a couple of them could have been heroes and career criminals like Cold might not have been able to be redeemed like he was in the new timeline. Getting his Cold Gun earlier, before he was quite so hardened and had Barry believing in him, might have been a positive result of the change. That resulted in Cold joining the Legends and saving the Universe. It also probably redeemed his partner who probably wouldn't have been able to be as good-ish as he was with the Legends if he had a few more years of arson & murders under his belt.
Having worked for Doctor Who back in the 80's, I'm always up for playing with timelines. LOL
yeah as shown in season 1 Barry formed the League in og timeline
There is one crucial thing wrong with this theory it wouldn’t be Joe it would be Henry, because in this original timeline, Henry never went to jail, and Nora never died
You could see the future original timeline 2020flash lightning was "yellow" when he get child barry out of the house to save from reverse flash.
The original version of the Flash was mainly a solo hero, CW Barry was severely traumatised by the death of his mother as a kid & never grew up with the confidence required to think & act independently from a team.
Sure he may have gotten a few pointers from the Justice League & his fellow Speedsters but he was was very much competent enough of a hero to handle things himself given the fact he’s the fastest man alive there’s not many threats that Barry has to worry about..
Until Crisis when Reverse Flash unleashes an entire army of Shadow Demons against the world & goes back in time to undo that version Barry from existence & succeeded, sort of. He managed to erase THAT version of Barry from existence but a version of the Flash still needed to exist in order for Reverse Flash to get his powers back & escape the timeline..
I think nobody, he is actually like his original comic version, sinetist and genius
actual the reverse flash traveld back in time and found cisco had powers, thing that is the point why he recruited him
in the og timeline has Catlin a child with rony
think the og Harrison Walls could have tried to help the meathumans he created (more comic acurate Star Labs)
devon happend
Zicade (only 1)
the wizard dude
and the other metahumen villanes
later futre Ibart Thorn become his flash hero
I think Flash later fanish in crisis
later tornado twins or Down fights Goodspeed (no going back in time) or I think not sure
I still think it's weird, that his mother's death is considered a fixed point and can't be changed, then how can that original flash had his mother alive. His timeline got erased hence the new future
it's like John Connor original father theory, you know there must be original timeline where John Connor was ordinary kid that threatening Skynet to send Terminator and after that Kyle Reese join the loop
Maybe in the original timeline it was Jay Garrett that taught him because in the comics Jay Garrett was the original flash then Barry Allen
I don't understand how him saving his mother created "flashpoint" if his mom living was the OG timeliness. Therefore, making the current timeline we know a fracture off from the OG timeline.
I would like to see the whole orginal timeline as a season.....
In Orginal Timeline Eddie must be alive and iris would marry him... But how did barry married iris in orginal timeline
eddie and iris never happen since barry became the flash originally in 2020 and the whole timeline was different
jesse and savitar are still alive in season 3 in one of the episode savitar says that he has plans for her but we don't see what dose with jesse so in season 8 or season 9 we mite see jesse and savitar again
jesse got erased in crisis and the whole timeline never exists its acc very confusing since crisis really f*cked up abt everything nothing really makes logic anymore
they should of made a season dedicated to the original timeline, would of been nice
Before Barry ran back in time? Didn't eobard say that Cisco had been dead for years anyway. So Cisco would have probably been dead either soon or maybe I I'm missing something
🤦🏾♂️ Thawn is from the 25th century. "to me you've been dead for centuries" when he was born cisco was already dead.
the original time line flash probably recruited cisco and kaitlyn because he didn't have gideon
No thawne get gedion from this flash
No bro.
Hey flashvese do your review on Superman and Lois ep 15 on Wednesday please bro
There's no point
Why
Original timeline show with better cgi, sadder, existential and more mature writing would be peak.
But what about how he learned to phase?
what if in the original timeline barry's mother actually got killed and everything played out as it did except eobard never gets stuck in the year 2000 and the original wells and tess never gets killed and barry does gain his powers in 2020
imagine if we got another timeline take of future flash that was actually smart and had an ai gideoan we were robbed
Really good question ngl but I think he trained himself
Would Barry be better off alone or with team flash ?
alone.
The particle accelerator didn’t explode In the future it actually worked
AFTER s9, doesn't our Barry become the Barry we see ? In a way, cementing that timeline? The episode where he goes back in time before his parents died has completely thrown me off 😂😂😂
the particle accelerator in original timeline worked properly
AI guided him and trained him; as we got to see Reverse stole her from Flash, so that says everyone came after she was stolen
Season 1 flash timeline isn’t the same as season 9 timeline bc flashpoint put flash in a new timeline same with reverse flash and the other hero’s and villains were left in timeline 2
The flash created two different flashpoints because he was born in the 1940s most pacific ray, 1941 when he died at the end of World War II he created the first flashpoint in the first to mid 21st century and then the second one flashpoint to happen again with he-go back in time to save his mom from causing the creation of the second flashpoint a.k.a. Back in season three.
So if barry was struck in 2020 so that means in alternete timeline season 1 was realese in 2020
what if barry’s mom was killed in the original time line by thawne, but the younger thawne didn’t know and it was the original timelines older thawne that the same thing happened and caused a particle Accelerator just in further and the young thawne in the new timeline just never learned it
But isnt falshpoint supposed to he the same or really similar to the original timeline
Hear me out when Barry saved his mom flashpoint occurred
But in the original timeline Barry’s mom was alive so similar situation bit completely different outcome
This is so simple to understand, Harrison Wells
If you read a single Barry Allen flash comic you'd know Barry doesn't need that help, the flash ring (and the element lignizium he created accompanying it), the suit and cosmic treadmill are his creations.
Original timeline Barry is comics Barry.
Even thawn states that CW Barry is nowhere near as smart as the Barry he knew. Or how he called Nora dawn (Barry's twin daughter).
When is the what if I wrote the flash season 7 part 2 coming out 🤔
Nvm I forgot your summer break ended and your on your last year of school 🏫 my bad
Soon
@@Flashverse12 when
I think they would have team flash in the alternative timeline
Yo i ddnt even think about all that i like tha theory's nd i think it giddion tha ai machine because she shows up later in tha series wit knowledge bout barry nd saying that barry is tha one who built him so he either built it off screen or tha original barry tha one who buit itnd our barry rediscovered it
I got a theory my self, you know flashpoint and then the alien war came, where everybody met up including the legends of tomorow, they had a message from Barry Allen aka the Flash from way in the future saying you can't trust him in that moment, blablabla, they took it as thinking that it was flashpoint first and then realised it was savitar he was talking about, but this doesn't make any sense because the message was from 2043 or something and savitar was around 2016 so why would he give thje message so late and why put it on the waverider for hunter. That's because it wasn't about savitar at all and it was indeed about flashpoint, flashpoint didn't change much in the present, ok ciscos brother died and some more minor things but not anything of high danger level but when changes are made those changes keep creating more changes and more,... What probably happend is the event of flashpoint probably made an apacolipse/crisis/... something barry can't defeat happen, now this wasn't supposed to be here in the firts place so maybe barry couldn't fix it but the legends are known to fix anomelies in time so, what barry did is bring the message to the wave rider in hopes they would find it, and thats how everythin played out
The original timeline flash is the flash from the comic books.
It wouldn’t of been Joe who let him go to starlabs cuz Nora and Henry were alive
So I don’t think that there really is a original timeline flash I believe that it was always supposed to happen the way it did it’s call a time loop or as Thawne said a fix point it was always supposed to lead back to that moment
It would have been the Original Wells and if Eobard hadnt Killed him and took his place In season 1 O.G timeline along with cisco and Caitlin
But Barry wouldn’t know joe or iris and probably wouldn’t work at ccpd or a lot of stuff
Wow cool video
Thawne or Jay Garrick
we're in the Post-Crisis Timeline and there is no original Timeline
Yeah
@@Flashverse12 remember Earth-90 Barry Allen erase that original timeline
@@Flashverse12 yeah there is
When did frost have soeed
It's but I think it's Joe
Who is og timeline flash???
There is no of flash it’s just one big time loop
What if now hear me out what if the future flash ran back in time to past him and teached the past flash and it goes in a loop what means that this is kinda true (if you had difficulties reading this it’s propraply Beacause I’m Estonian)
what about the guy with the purple lighting speedster
According to me,
We have watched all the episodes as of Reverse flashpoint from the future OG Eobard Thawne travel back to 2000 and killed nora allen. But there is a original timeline from 2000 to 2451 where the OG flash is from 2020 and the Ebord thawn has been born on 2451.
Also, in the season 8 again the reverse flash created the reverse flashpoint but im not sure how he stated that he killed child barry instead of his mother nora. And self becomes the flash and created barry as reverse flash to hate. This Season's episodes Armageddon was shitt of the each season.
Yea there shoode be a original flash timeline show and reverse flash show
I think The speed force trained him bc she is The source of his power
Ofcourse he had Katelynn and Cisco in the original time line. Thawn kept the player the same, just a little sooner, that’s one way he hid from the wraiths
Thawne hired Cisco because Cisco literally told him he helped Thawne build Stars Labs
Original he has no training or mentor because the bang is not intentional nit like our time line flash
He wouldn't offer Joe to take him to star labs he would ask Henry Allen who isn't in jail in this timeline however why would Barry be then in ccpd he only joined because of the death of his mother there are so many continuity flaws here.
is the original timeline flash the one who vanished in crisis?
Yes
I think it Thawne from s1 bc if u rember Barry said how old is he and he over 100 I think I don't rember but I think he trained him
Barry older den him thawne look up to barry
The speed force trained the original flash
not really
Is our Barry not the original timeline Flash?
I thought it was a bootstrap paradox
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Isn’t original timeline flash overall way better than current timeline Barry ?
Yes
Yes bro
I think this flash is the same from comics i mean every thing happened with flash comics happened with this flash
He was just an independent guy sho learned it himself just like comic book flash
Why did og flash stopped other barry
Watch Season 3 and it will make sense
Time travel in the show is inconsistent and alot of plot holes