Mountune Oil Baffle Instal, You Guys Asked for IT!!

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @KAZUYADOG
    @KAZUYADOG 7 лет назад +1

    I dont own a FRS,but i do own a Ford 2.5T,i like you're methodical way of doing upgrades.

  • @onexforu
    @onexforu 7 лет назад +1

    Seriously, thanks for this vid! The part has been sitting on my shelf since I bought it waiting on instructions.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +2

      onexforu not a problem. Hardest part is reconnecting the very back pcv hose once you switch it to the moutune one. It's a little tight but doable. Also remember that small pcv hose rotates on both ends at the fittings.

    • @OfficialMarkZuckerberg
      @OfficialMarkZuckerberg 5 лет назад +1

      i think mountune is kind of notorious for having poor instructions.

  • @macdawg6403
    @macdawg6403 6 лет назад

    I like your use of Painter Tape to protect openings. Great Idea!

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  6 лет назад

      Any type of making tape is a must. Do not use duct tape as it leaves residual behind once you peel off. And thank you, it’s so much better than using rags unless they are brand new microfiber as cotton rags could drop fibers when shoved in or pulled out. Microfiber is a waste of cash so painters tape won’t let you down.

  • @EricHoop721
    @EricHoop721 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video. I couldn't have done it without it.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  6 лет назад

      No problem. Never hesitate to come ask anything. I try to answer all my comments.

  • @RyanMiskimminMusic
    @RyanMiskimminMusic 7 лет назад

    The UK Mountune store doesnt sell this yet. When it does I think Ill be fitting one and following your instructions on this video.
    My Focus RS smokes like a mad thing when its been sitting idling for ages.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +1

      The USA store is fitting the ST one to the RS as they both have the same OEM Part number. It has been working great on their test car and mine so it is effective. I do not believe the UK will add it until thy design a RS spicific one which will most likely be the same design once they look at it. Fitment is perfect and part does work! I hope this helps!

  • @jkiley4466
    @jkiley4466 4 года назад

    I have had a catch can installed on the Mountune USA oil baffle part (which Christopher installs in this video), and also with the Mountune UK RS baffle plate.
    The Mountune USA baffle is an upgrade to the stock ST baffle. However, it is NOT an upgrade to the stock RS part. The main part of the stock RS baffle is actually internally enclosed, which Christopher misses in this video. I found that I had MORE oil and liquid in the catch can with the Mountune USA part installed than the stock RS part.
    The Mountune UK RS baffle is a slight improvement over the stock RS baffle, I have had least amount of oil and liquid to drain with the Mountune UK plate installed.
    On a RS, I would keep the stock RS baffle installed unless you can replace it with the UK part.

    • @DrFumesta
      @DrFumesta Год назад

      Will the Euro breather plate fit a US facelift ST? (Assuming I can even get one shipped here)

    • @jkiley4466
      @jkiley4466 Год назад

      @@DrFumesta Yeah all years of MK3 Focus ST/RS can share a MK3 breather plate. The flange on the block for the PCV breather is the same for both the 2.0 and 2.3 liter engines.

  • @joeygu5550
    @joeygu5550 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome video, thanks for sharing and expecting more to come!

  • @OfficialMarkZuckerberg
    @OfficialMarkZuckerberg 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the solid analysis of this part, im definitely going to upgrade to this part. I was planning on doing a catch can but this might be enough by itself. i would be interesting to see what someones collections were in a catch can before the plate and then after

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  5 лет назад +1

      It’s not bad. If you push more power a can in unison never hurt anything. Especially on a full DI engine.

    • @OfficialMarkZuckerberg
      @OfficialMarkZuckerberg 5 лет назад

      @@ChristopherAyresfrs2 I would like to keep my ST as long as possible so I want to take all the precautions I can. Especially since I plan on tuning it

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  5 лет назад +1

      If you tune it then I would go with both personally.

    • @OfficialMarkZuckerberg
      @OfficialMarkZuckerberg 5 лет назад

      @@ChristopherAyresfrs2 have you monitored the oil content after the install

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  5 лет назад +1

      Not very well. Lol. I changed every 3K and it’s always the same spot in the dipstick as I was when I changed it as when I fill it.

  • @Vosovogalsyncope
    @Vosovogalsyncope 5 лет назад

    Good job Chris! wish I could drive to your place for help

  • @bryanwalker5678
    @bryanwalker5678 7 лет назад

    emails sent to myself today from mountune
    "The breather plate is offered for the ST only at present as the RS breather plate is a different specification, i would not be surprised is this becomes available for the RS in the future."
    "The one we will offer will be different from the U.S spec, i hope this helps."

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Bryan Walker hmm I'm curious as to what they could do to possibly make it different. If you get it on the U.K. Site can you send me the link. You get what I'm saying though right. As of now on the line the same part goes on the ST and RS. Maybe they will improve it otherwise it's not a part that can hurt anything as it does have superior surface area to an opened stock one. I'd like to see what they would do to change the design.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Bryan Walker I would assume maybe a different PCV location or something as the Mountune one is a perfect fit. Also I don't want to stress it but if you look through the ford JES in USA for that operation and in Germany they both show to install the same part number at stations E24 in US and Eng 21 in Germany. Weird. I'd like to see what they change in the design in the U.K.

    • @bryanwalker5678
      @bryanwalker5678 7 лет назад

      I too have a good relationship with mountune so hopefully will get one of the first available, no problem sharing details when I know. No idea when that will be though as they haven't given a timescale.,
      I suspect they have found the oil breather plate suitable upto Mountunes 300bhp ST tune isn't adequate for 380 + bhp as obviously temperatures and pressures will be higherso oil vapour will behave differently.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Bryan Walker I'd be curious for real. The plate doesn't take to much pressure under boost. I have a felling if they change it they may retain the stock position and assembly of the stock PCV. Otherwise the things pretty serious when it comes to strength. It billet CNC aluminum with steel baffles inside where there are about 2-3 times the surface area. Maybe they will come up with a design to add a catch can. As of now I know this part is safe as the stock part numbers are the same, they do exactly the same thing. The size cannot be made larger due to interference. I'd like to see some different UK parts to see the approach. That's all I can honestly tell you was launching the car someone, most likely a DRE made the decision to use the same stock part on both. Let me know for sure because if they develop something better I'd probably buy it. There are a few discrepancies between the US and EU as the rotors from the U.K. Don't meet US dot rules. In that I'm holding out for a ceramic rotor being developed by another company. Pricy but 100,000 mile avg life. I'd appreciate if you keep me in the loop though.

  • @triathleteover5030
    @triathleteover5030 2 года назад

    Hi Chris thank you for the video. Been looking in YT for this. Just have a question. The one you replaced is the breather and the pcv valve is another exhaust located at the upper back of the crank case cover connected to the turbo vacuum?

  • @EliBlogs
    @EliBlogs 7 лет назад +4

    Awesome video man

  • @bryanwalker5678
    @bryanwalker5678 7 лет назад

    Hi Chris, great vidskeep up the great work.
    One thing on the breather plate. I believe part you've used was designed for the focus ST I've contacted Mountune UK for clarification, initially I didn't get a response so I tried someone else @ Mountune uk and this what they said "The breather plate is offered for the ST only at present as the RS breather plate is a different specification, I would not be surprised is this becomes available for the RS in the future." So either Mountune USA have jumped the gun on this and said the ST plate is ok for the RS or you do a have a redesigned part specifically for the RS that isn't available in the UK yet which I would be surprised at. It would be interesting to see the focus ST breather plate sat next to the plate Mountune USA are supplying for the RS.
    CheeRS
    Bry

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +1

      Bryan Walker they are the same.

    • @bryanwalker5678
      @bryanwalker5678 7 лет назад

      Thanks I wonder why Mountune UK are not approving the part for the RS yet.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Bryan Walker unsure. Look at Mountune USA dot com and it will describe them as being the same part. I have had no issues with it either. No loss oil or power.

    • @bryanwalker5678
      @bryanwalker5678 7 лет назад

      Hi Chris my suspicions were correct Mountune uk have just got back to me and they are indeed developing a baffle plate specific to the RS. They wouldn't be doing this if the ST part was perfect for the RS so make of that what you will.
      CheeRS
      Bry

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Bryan Walker are you sure they are not developing an oil pan paddle plate as I've matched the stock one I have to a st and it is an exact fit. No I could see a baffle for the oil pan but the same plate that goes on the front, in this video both have the same stock part number st and RS and regular focus. I believe they are telling you they are making an oil pan unit not a front baffle. Plus it's not called a Baffle plate it's called an oil breather. If you go to the US site look under the ST and you will see the other oil baffle "plate". This "plate" directs the oil in the pan to the sump so it won't ever have a starving condition. I can guarantee this baffle is the same on the ST and RS. The oil pan one would be different as it's a 2.0 compared to a 2.3. The pans are different. I'll show you what they are telling you about. I guarantee this breather plate is the same across all focus.

  • @DazzaST225
    @DazzaST225 7 лет назад

    very good insight what is behind the baffle top work pal

  • @badams0311
    @badams0311 7 лет назад

    Woot! I have one as well I'll be installing after SEMA. Always a good thing to have. My car doesn't burn any oil (we broke it in on the dyno) but I'll be using mine in conjunction with an AOS down the road methinks. Another thing to take away from this is when the oil gets introduced back into the engine, it also lowers the octane of the fuel. And I need all I can get on this crap cali 91 haha

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      badams0311 I broke mine in by redlining it home in the first 5 gears with 4 miles on it. Your car is broken in from the factory. They 4th gear pull them on their static tests twice until fuel cut off in factory mode not counting miles.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      badams0311 I broke mine in by redlining it home in the first 5 gears with 4 miles on it. Your car is broken in from the factory. They 4th gear pull them on their static tests twice until fuel cut off in factory mode not counting miles.

    • @badams0311
      @badams0311 7 лет назад

      Christopher Ayres haha I know, it was a joke. People get so crazy with the "break in procedure". You should've seen the comments with the window sticker installed ripping pulls Haha. Run that bish!

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      badams0311 I have been running 400 torque to the wheels for about a thousand miles. I have 3900 on my car. My only concern is I diddnt run it 2900 miles ago.

    • @badams0311
      @badams0311 7 лет назад

      Christopher Ayres haha tell me about it. I had around 600 miles on mine when Cobb got us the software. I'm kinda bored now 🙃

  • @AceJas68
    @AceJas68 7 лет назад +1

    What are the Torque specs for the intake bolts and other bolts? Thanks

  • @DrillnKill
    @DrillnKill 6 лет назад +1

    Hey man great video. I just got this piece in for my ST and can't find an installation guide for it anywhere. Do you think the process is generally the same between your RS and the ST?? Really hoping I can use this video as a guide. Thanks!

    • @jkiley4466
      @jkiley4466 4 года назад

      Process is identical for the ST.

    • @NEOSLAYZZ
      @NEOSLAYZZ 4 года назад

      I’m sure if you research on just removing the intake manifold and or throttle body the rest will be a breeze for this modification you simply need to remove other parts of the engine to free up the location of the replacement part ;)

  • @jong4939
    @jong4939 6 лет назад

    dang, thank you for the education man! super informative.

  • @SMDe36M3
    @SMDe36M3 7 лет назад

    Nice video. I have a '14 ST with a mishimoto baffled oil catch can and was thinking of this part as well in conjunction. Have you looked at the Mishimoto catch can for your car? They make a great product. I've emptied mine twice in the past 3 months. Once after 500 miles after install which had about 1.5 ounces of oil and again during normal oil change which was a few thousand miles after I empires it the first time. Second time I emptied the can it was just about half full.

    • @triathleteover5030
      @triathleteover5030 2 года назад

      Nice to hear from you @Sean Dyer that you have a catch can in the engine. Where did you connect the catch can? Thru the breather as shown by Chris or at the pcv at the back of the cran case connected to the turbo vacuum?

  • @patrickcorrigan591
    @patrickcorrigan591 7 лет назад +2

    Great video! Very informative. How's the new tune? I'm planning on getting my acessport this month.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Patrick Corrigan thank you. It's good. I just started logging 4th gear 2000-6500 runs this weekend, I've got a couple days. Spark and timing are still at pretty safe numbers. I'm hoping for 370-80 WHP and 410-20 WHTQ

    • @patrickcorrigan591
      @patrickcorrigan591 7 лет назад +1

      Christopher Ayres Nice! Are you using a tuning service or doing it yourself? Do you think the cobb tunes are safe to use out of the box?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Patrick Corrigan a little bit of both. I get my work checked. I would not advise going with the off the shelf Cobb tune without a tuner to take a look at a few logs at least.

  • @charlesjames1442
    @charlesjames1442 4 года назад

    Not losing oil on my early ‘13 ST but this looks like a must-do if you want to keep the car long term. Did you happen to get a look at the intake valves when you pulled the manifold? And did you use a new gasket when you put the intake back on?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  4 года назад

      I didn’t see wet oil but for sure burnt oil residue on exhaust valves, intake was clean so I’d say it’s doing it’s job for sure. This was not pulling the intake manifold, but when I later pulled the head.

  • @92naz32
    @92naz32 7 лет назад

    Informative video, good job.

  • @BoBByQc444
    @BoBByQc444 7 лет назад

    Good day to you .. I have a question for you ... you did installed the breather plate since quite some times now .. do you expect installing a catch can our you think it's not so important ??
    On my side i'll install a breather plate in not too long, so if you think i should install the both of them i'll do it at the same operation ...
    Only the best for my sweetheart ... lol
    Thank's for the advice

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      +Robert Perron I will tell you I can't note if their will be an advantage, I do plan on fitting one though just for the piece of mind, I was holding out for another company to produce one but I do not see any negative effect if not only positive of doing both. If I knew the company would have not had one by now I would have done both to be honest.

  • @gpn854
    @gpn854 7 лет назад

    I got the job done on my car . It's not real easy to do . The plastic breather plate hose needs to be mounted up and behind the wires to connect it to the manifold . A perfect fit .
    A good idea is to cover the turbo tube . Don't want and tools or parts to fall in it .

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      +gpn854 yea there's a bit of modification but nothing permanent. I hope it works out well for you!

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      +gpn854 this is a good pint unless you want a 10 mm socket rat telling around in your intercooler. Lol

  • @rayrayhernandez1335
    @rayrayhernandez1335 7 лет назад +1

    What were the torque specs for the intake manifold bolts? Also anymore comments of the performance on this part?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +2

      +RayRay Hernandez it prevents oil from getting into your intake manifold. No performance, more preventative to keep performance. They are 15ft LBS.

    • @rayrayhernandez1335
      @rayrayhernandez1335 7 лет назад

      Christopher Ayres interesting, thanks my man! Your vids make me excited to get an RS. Keep up the good work!

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      +RayRay Hernandez will do. I've got some exciting installs coming up now that it's starting to get above 30 degrees in Michigan and I'm not going to be traveling as much!

  • @pr0jectSkyneT
    @pr0jectSkyneT 7 лет назад +1

    is there a difference between this and an Air/Oil Separator?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +2

      pr0jectSkyneT no. They all do both separate Oil from air

    • @pr0jectSkyneT
      @pr0jectSkyneT 7 лет назад +1

      thank you. i was looking to get a AOS because catch-cans requires emptying and that bothers me lol

  • @DanieIMonteiro
    @DanieIMonteiro 6 лет назад

    How much NM Torque did you have to apply when putting everything back together? I cant find that info anywhere...

  • @gordon238
    @gordon238 7 лет назад

    Hi Chris, can you tell me what you torqued the inlet manifold to.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      gordon238 15 FtLbs. Center-right-left-furthest right-furthest left facing the engine bay.

  • @AceJas68
    @AceJas68 7 лет назад

    I just read 15ft pounds. Any other specs on other bolts? Thanks again.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      AceJas68 hand tighten. I am sure there is some low Nm Torque for the baffle but it's probably only like 12 which is like 4-5 ft lbs. I just hand tightened them going from top to bottom side to side pattern. The TQ on the baffle is not as important as the 15 lbs on your intake manifold. Just hand tight will fly.

  • @scottpeabody4580
    @scottpeabody4580 7 лет назад

    Chris, I did not see an answer to my question below so I will ask.....Do you know if adding this part voids the vehicle or drive-train warranty???

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +1

      Scott Peabody sorry Scott I did not mean to not answer your question. RUclips had comments down November 4th and 5th. I will try to give you the most accurate answer as this depends. You have probably notice I use mostly Mountune mods. From what I understand as long as it's a Mountune part and an ASE certified mechanic install the part then no. There is also impact depending on your dealer. If I upgrade my motor mount and the subframe cracks where it attaches (not at all likely) they could blame it on the stiffer mount and deny the claim. Now if I do an oil baffle upgrade and my engine mount breaks, likely they will warranty it. They have to show a correlation in the mod and the defect which is hard. The ASE mechanic stuff all depends on your dealer. 95% of dealers do not care if you mod your car. In fact some may be interested I've found and be happy to do the work. Most dealers won't know some upgrades from stock. So in short if you have a dealership that is so to say cool and willing to be helpful than chances are they won't care. They also really cannot void your whole cars warranty because you put an intake on and say your sync stops working. They are completely unrelated to each other. I have had warranty work done on a break squeak with all of my mods with no issue, the tech was actually interested in my mods more than anything. The one exception to this rule is tuning. Once you tune it will always show if they investigate it even if you flash back to stock before hand. That's "if" they dig into it. I can't tell you they will not care but will tell you I have never had issues with several dealers. I hope that explains the answer, I can't tell you yes or no, only what I've herd and experienced. For the most part unless your warranty claim is a direct result of your modification they won't care, my suggestion if it is a direct issue to the mod is to go back stock before you take it in. They cannot blame a mod that's not there, if it's a tune though they can see it no matter however. I hope this is insightful. It's a very hard answer that does not have a 100% certain yes or no to. -CA

    • @scottpeabody4580
      @scottpeabody4580 7 лет назад

      thanks for your answer keep up the interesting videos and info.

    • @scottpeabody4580
      @scottpeabody4580 7 лет назад

      Chris, can you turn me onto a retailer or two? I cannot find any one who sells mountune parts after search on the web. thanks

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Scott Peabody I am no way affiliated with them and am not sponsored, etc. they just make really good parts. www.mountuneusa.com is their retail site. They are out of California.

  • @christiangrethen9001
    @christiangrethen9001 6 лет назад

    Hi Christopher. How much time did you spent in total for the installation? Thanks

  • @1301ktm
    @1301ktm 7 лет назад

    hi Chris has the breather solved the oil use ?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Ian Marshall so far I have not noticed any burnt oil, bunt oil smell, or black smoke.

    • @1301ktm
      @1301ktm 7 лет назад

      Christopher Ayres thanks Chris I'm from the UK ,north west near Liverpool I've just fitted all the 375 mountune parts and fords about to upgrade the map so I'll get a baffle plate from mountune, is the focus st one the same? mountune UK won't say if it is thanks great blogs on the rs

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Ian Marshall as far as I know they are the same. I'm 98% sure.

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +1

      I can say that I believe this and all cars burn a small amount of oil, especially sport cars. It's been 3,000 miles since the baffle was installed and I just checked my oil level. It was still very close to the fill hole. Note that when the motor is not at operating temps and you rev or get on it hard it will burn oil, all cars will. Your rings are not hot enough to expand, rubber gaskets such as valve seals are still cold and not expanded. So on a brand new RS that has been. Sitting 3 days at day 50 degrees Fahrenheit and you start it and rev it to 6000 rpm it will smell like and burn a tiny bit of oil. This is pretty much uniform across all cars.

  • @avus3
    @avus3 7 лет назад

    why a baffle vs a catch can?

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад +1

      avus3 it's not a vs., they can work in tandem. The oil baffle is the direct source of where the oil comes that ends up in you catch can. So a baffle that lets no liquid oil through eliminates a catch can need. Now baffles, mostly aftermarket can be great a small amount of oil will make it to your catch can. Think of it like this. Stock baffle you empty a half a quart of oil every 3 months. With a baffle that oil goes to maybe an Ounce every 3 months. There is no real right answer???? If money were no limit then both. If I had to choose one than Baffle for sure.

  • @macdawg6403
    @macdawg6403 6 лет назад

    Does this mod void warranty ??

  • @Yeptturbo6969
    @Yeptturbo6969 7 лет назад

    what are the TQ specs

    • @ChristopherAyresfrs2
      @ChristopherAyresfrs2  7 лет назад

      Tony Aquiningoc hand tighten baffle. 15 ft lbs on intake manifold. No specs for baffle. It probably around 5-10 mm.

  • @shadowboybass
    @shadowboybass 7 лет назад

    Man You smoke weed????