Björn, thanks for your opinion. I own an i4e40 and after almost 4 months of ownership I can underwrite your conclusions on comfort and efficiency. Now, commenting on why first a niche i3 and i8, I believe BMW wanted to avoid recalls on a big volume car. It looks like that the philosophy of how to bring a car to market is totally different between the traditional automakers and the new kids on the block. Where Tesla promises or brings something to market which is not entirely ready (panel gaps, rust on earlier X’s, poor general build quality of seats in earlier days), the Germans and Japanese want to get it right the first time they try. I find it remarkable that BMW brings its first volume model to market on a relatively new technology to them on a compromised platform (according to a lot of people) and gets an efficiency close to the product of a company which is dedicated to EV from their start on.
If the kidney grille was much smaller and this car was running iDrive 6 instead of 7 it would be probably the perfect BMW. Stop with the massive mouth at the front, for the love of God.
@@savedfaves it looks better in when seen live. I didn’t know bmw produced an ev until maybe 6months ago, but saw a 440i and was really impressed and wanted to know what it was. Very sporty looking car😊
No regret, I went preordering an i4, and waited for a couple of months, still no sight of delivery, they took our modern technology like parking assist and driving assist options for the eDrive40 MY2023, and now I am back to square one, getting in the waitlist for other EV.
@@kharimott8227 I believe the steering wheel is thicker and has more padding. I like it. For me the main reason for the m sport package was the inclusion of the adaptive suspension: In default "comfort" mode the i4 just glides... and when I switch to "sport" it stiffens up the suspension and changes the steering response making whizzing around all those lovely bends on my way to work a lot of fun. Very happy with my car, except for the extra £750 to enable adaptive cruise control.. (the buttons are on the steering wheel but you have to pay to enable them...) and I also would opt for the enhanced audio.
@@kharimott8227 Think as mentioned if you want the more comfortable drive just get the basic sport trim.Depends if you want comfort or a more sporty/firm ride.
Is this one much more comfortable to drive than the M50? Having the Kona today, I would like an efficient car with low consumption (drove Oslo-Lillestrøm in rush hour on average 111Wh/km), but wants to avoid the noise in the cabin. The M50 was ok, but even lower noise level would be good. The wheels had a very low profile, I guess a little less extreme low profile could give more comfort. Anyone with advice on tires? Think I would go for 18». Now there is said to come a 4x4 eDrive40. So there will be a lot of options, as if this wasn’t difficult enough with all the options to choose from already 😅.
The two big Problems about this Car: The Price! In Germany BMW wants you to pay over 1000 Bucks per Month by Leasing for a Version with no Extras! Second is Availability - 14 to 16 Month (!!) and BMW doesn't even want to guarantee that at the moment…
Jeez it’s almost a year and a half to get one? Yeah that’s the problem with these new EVs. People are just foaming at the mouth to get them ASAP. Some hummer EV sold for like 230k a few weeks ago 2nd hand, the market is just insane right now
Yikes 😳! I ordered mine about 3 weeks ago, paid 1k to reserve a spot, and was told 6-9 month delivery. I guess the salesman didn’t give me the real story here, and when I asked about the M50 it would be a year+ for getting that.
Perhaps I was lucky I ordered in Feb and is available for delivery now. Also in UK if you take as company car with payment out of gross salary before tax the government will tax you only 2%. I am paying c£550 a month . Pretty good deal I thought
It's nice to see that the whole range argument is becoming more and more obsolete. 5% more or less is no longer a real argument for most customers, just as it was not for fossil cars with slightly more or less consumption. Even the eqe or eqs are efficient with the right package, of course not with fat performance tires. But overall it means customers have more choice and fossil cars lose their advantages, that's important, not everyone wants a Tesla and that's the only way more people will switch from fossil cars, that's really the point. Also, whether you need 20min longer or shorter for 1000km is not really decisive, in everyday life it doesn't matter at all for most people. The important thing is that there are now many really good electric cars. Good job BMW and that gives hope for the "new class" platform which then hopefully also loses its excess in weight.
Seems like a really nice car. It looks "affordable" in canada, but the base model is very bare bones. Basic options that you'd expect on pretty much any new car, let alone a "luxury-lite" car put the price up very high. This is not some secret bargain. Optioned out this car is very nice. Base model is a short step away from roll down windows.
I added options that you’d normally have and the cost added up to 650k nok. Not bad for a luxury vehicle. Like the standard Tesla cost 150k nok less but it’s not a luxury vehicle, some are willing to pay more to drive nicer car. I’m gonna wait and buy a used one after 3 years. I’d assume the cost goes down to at least 500k after 3 years
Bjorn can you or anyone please share which OBD reader and App you are using? I noticed you put up a display showing IX3 / I4 on one of your videos. I have been unsuccessful in getting any OBD readers to work. Thanks Mike
@@mattleistner313 I never drove a car like Tesla Model Y Performance. Boaty and firm at the same time. Not a good car for roundabouts, not a good car for accelerating hard either, not a good car to have a sporty drive in the mountains. Tesla should partner with BMW to get new shocks cause i4 is heavy and it still does the job wonderful.
Is there a list somewhere with cars that are known to preheat the battery to avoid cold gating during fast charging? It's something that seems to be not officially listed as far as I know, but a very interesting feature to keep in the equation when comparing cars.
Another advantage of an efficient car with such a big battery is a longer life. Since every charge cycle provides 600 km of range the common 1000 charge cycles lead to about 500.000-600.000 km of range. Bjørn, how efficient will this car BMW in winter? What do you think?
Agree! Also keep in mind that the 1000 cycles are to 80ish % remaining capasity (or was it 70%?), which means that it could go for a long time. Say you reach 600 000km and has 70% battery capasity left, that would mean you still would have 420km range (600 * 0.70).
@@rogerstarkey5390 Scandinavians who have ø in their alphabet generally consider ö an acceptable substitute, if for some reason the writer is unable to easily type ø. The letters are so closely related, that for most intents and purposes, they're just regional cosmetic variations of the same letter.
@@marcelbeaucamp9330 That is correct; Denmark and Norway have ø, and Sweden and Iceland have ö. Fun fact: In some styles of cursive handwriting, the Norwegian ø looks more like ö or ō, but I guess a dwindling number of people are aware of this, as handwriting seems to be a dying skill in the information age.
This generation of bmw motors is very efficient and has a flat curve in the power delivery due to not using permanent magnets in the motor rotor, as the rotor voltage can vary it can also vary its magnetism, with this it no longer uses rare earths in the motor production and manages to increase efficiency, it is a 2 in 1.👌I'm waiting for one of this, one year.😔
@@markplott4820 Yes, it's true, but this is nothing to do with crash test, it's only about lights and systems we usualy turn off, like lane assist.cdn.euroncap.com/media/70210/euroncap-2022-bmw-i4-datasheet.pdf This i4 is, probably, the last old school car, with some modern features, and for me is the best car to buy and keep for all time, a car where you can see how they made combustion cars...
Hi Bjørn, what you tried and mentioned around 11:45, is that the same in the M50 model as well? I had a test drive in the e40, and I know what you are referring to. I did not like it. It's a bit like an SUV. Thanks! Great vid as always.
Which ODB dongle are you using in the i4 and which app? I have so far tested 2 different dongles and one works with LeafSpy but not recognized by the i4 or any other apps, and the other is recognized by all the apps but not the Leaf or the i4. After driving the i4 e40 for a month, I am quite happy with it, but I want to check the car out technically a bit more.
funny that you mention that regarding the punch... I've had the exact same feeling in the 330e, it does like 5.9 sex 0-100, but I but the punch is something else... Right now I have a Volvo v60 T8 that does it in 4,8 seconds, but it does not feel the same way.
Hi Bjørn, thanks so much for the video! I am really interested in this car, and is wondering if the adaptative suspension from the M50 that you can add to this edrive40 is worth it. Since you tested the two, what do you think?
@@shamilmammadov8246 Asked myself and a lot of people the same question. I always get the answer that the adaptive suspension isn't worth the money if you want to get the best bang for a buck. So I ordered mine without the adaptive suspension. I will see if that was a mistake or not :D But I see the positive side: YOu can fit 17 inch wheels (wich are the base ones) for Winter driving (more range, narrower tires are better in Winter and salt won't hurt the better rims) . And user the 18 inch for summer. At least thats my plan for now.
This EV is actually available in South Africa, unfortunately it is very expensive. The new i3 is also available , but also very expensive, but it is good to see some becoming available, now our charging infrastructure will have to be expanded.
I just spec’d a 3 LR equipped as close as possible to the i4 eDrive 40 that I have on order here in the USA (no enhanced autopilot or FSD) and the Tesla was 4.45% cheaper. That’s before the federal tax credit that the BMW qualifies for, but is no longer available for Teslas. Fair or not, that’s the reality here and with the credit the BMW is 6% cheaper. Govt crash ratings for the Tesla 3 and BMW 440i are both 5-star. The BMW heads up display adds an unquantifiable level of safety. We test drove both and I far preferred the BMW for dynamics, ambience and quality. Tesla is a generation ahead in battery/motor/software but the BMW has near comparable efficiency and gave a more pleasurable driving experience. I also like the fact that the BMW is built in a union factory.
@@markplott4820 That is a common missunderstanding. The new 4-series (incl. i4) is not built on the same platform as the 3-series. It was the same on the previous 4-series, but since it became too small (and low roof) in the backseat, they made a new, longer for the new 4-series.
21:55 "... and they cost twice as much". Nope, EQE 300 starts at 63'500€, BMW i4 40 at 59'000€ in German Configurator. That's 1.08 as much. But I agree, it's a great car, if you're shopping for something in that range.
@@bjornnyland no EQE base versions available in Norway yet? i4 base apparently is. Edit: Only EQE 43 4Matic available in Norway yet, starts in No Configurator at 909 800 kr. Is that including or excluding tax? 2nd Edit: last page says Totalpris: + 2400 kr Vrakpant*, Pluss 0% moms *wrecking fee in advance, I guess
No extra subwoofer, but you get more space in the underfloor compartment. After listening to HK I thought "to hell with more space, I need that sound" :)
That’s the Hans Zimmer electric acceleration sound effect you’re hearing. It can be turned off. And I don’t believe the in-car it would sound quite how it does in the video.
I really wish I could afford this car. There is literally no reason to buy anything gas powered brand new since eveything is going electric in the next ten years. If I could afford this, I'd buy it, maybe m50 version for 4WD, since winters are getting harsher by the year (I live in Finland). After getting it I would probably never sell it, just keep on fixing it until its totally worn out. I guess the only thing that would need fixing is swapping the batteries after ten years or so, right?
Think you got something wrong here, it makes perfect sense to buy a gas car because there will be less choice in the future and this means less depreciation for you. Meanwhile EVs are improving rapidly and current EVs will depreciate heavily.
@@kaspar737 how so? Since electric cars are mostly more efficient and require less maintenance than fossil based ones, don't you think that once EV's hit cheaper price ranges the gas car prices will drop even more as they are left being only a fun commodity of the past. Only iconic cars such as BMW m3's and such are the only ones keeping the value for the people who are into such hobby.
Watched this rather old video after ordering the i4 40 as a company car. No M-Sport was allowed so I went for the bicycle tires with small aero wheels for max efficiency. Can´t wait to drive it. Hopfully, it arrives in 2023... waiting time is soooo long
The i4 is very well made (you have to like the looks) but unfortunately it doesn't come cheap either and several have noted that the BMW is overpriced for what's on offer. But of course that is always very individual, because the customer also buys very much based on emotions. Also, 5 stars in the crash test would actually be a must for a premium vehicle in this price range. 20:05 In my opinion, the user interface at BMW is far better than at VAG-models, for example, where you have huge tiles spread over several pages, which looks very confusing/nested. In my opinion, it makes no sense to make them so big, because the argument "so that you can hit them while driving" is rather weak, because all other controls (including others on the display, like the home button) are much smaller.
@@markplott4820 expert speaking. How about to get your facts right? Nothing is cheap about the chassis and the base clar-platform. It’s all top notch materials and best in class production techniques. Without the sacrifices that Tesla makes in order to reduce costs. Gigacasting is nothing a consumer wants to have. The star rating is correct, but it’s not because of the protection for passengers, but solely because of less intrusive assistant systems and danger for cyclists.
@@markplott4820 BMW has already been using 48V boardnet in cars for years as of now, since 2019. Model S Plaid is a great car, but Teslas certainly are no luxury cars. The interiors are just awful.
The car is so efficient at saving power = saving money = £53k price I won't be spending, that's a lot of money I just saved just by watching a decent vid about the car. In a climate where half the world is struggling for money these manufacturers still continue to bring out premium priced cars, at least the rich can enjoy them.
@@bjornnyland I do like it, though I would have to put up with passengers having bleeding knuckles like in your review 😁 Also Corsa does have a bit of a Chav rep here in UK, a bit cheap made and interior but at the 21k price what are you expecting for an EV, we do have better interior in my wifes 19k Fiesta just a shame no full EV of those.
@@victorfrombcn Nothing to do with BMW cars but EVs altogether, each one brings one out but the pricing is focused towards those with enough cash the fuel pricing crisis wont even bother them anyway, while the rest of us have to pay the fuel prices and wait for second hand EVs or get a Zoe or Leaf.
U pay to much for all the extras on the BMW and the waiting time is very long. I really liked it, but when I entered my Xpeng P7 Performance, I felt I was seated and was driving in a much more comfortable and silent car, with more space in cockpit, feels more spacious. BMW felt for me like a conventional gas car. But I did like it alot, but like my P7 better. P7 was the last ev I tried after both this BMW and 15 others.
@Yu Cheng I ordered my i4-40 April 7th and it's on its way with all options, including Driving Assistant Pro and Advanced Parking Assist. Also HUD and laser headlights. I realize I'm lucky. (USA)
Thanks Bjørn, great review again. How did you experience the gearbox in lets say a parking situation where you might need to be a bit quick and not be in the way for other cars? I ask because I experience some EVs to be slow in shifting between D and R. The delay can in some cars be reeeeeally frustrating... any thoughts about that on this i4?
Well, cars are not always about efficiency. Otherwise, people wouldn't buy Porsche's when a Toyota is more efficient. The same here. The Model 3 is an efficient car, but it's a toy. Feels like and sounds like a toy. And the wind noise is unbearable. With the i4, I guess you will have less efficiency in winter, but a way better car that is leagues above a Model 3.
@@v.corleone737 hi, that calculation is no longer valid, as BEVs can deliver both power and efficiency at the same time (e.g. a Porsche can be both more efficient and more powerful than a Toyota). Model 3 will be "leagues above" in the software and tech department. It is all an exercise in knowing your own priorities. i4 feels more like a Taycan competitor, because for someone looking for ultimate driving comfort, Model 3 was never an option.
Just yeserday I test drove the i4 M50, and the full throttle acceleration scred the shoot out of me. I suspect this edrive 40 is a better package when it comes to everyday driving. Too bad that at least for now awd on the i4 only comes with the higher spec
haha , i had the same feeling testing the M 50 , If I had not used both hands on the steering wheel, then i would driven it off the road .. the sport boost mode was intense. I wanted to test the edrive 40, but seems only the M50 is available as test cars in my country. I dont need the m50 performance and was thinking edrive40 and add some extras instead
@Bjørn were you able to test the app and connectivity features? Things like thermal preconditioning, managing charging, unlocking via phone etc. All important for EV drivers in a day-to-day life.
Bjørn, please make a video about which model you would choose, the edrive40 or M50. I'm trying to choose between these models. I also live in Scandinavia so my concern is how a rearwheel drive car will handle winter conditions. I would need the range that the edrive40 has and the power it has is already more than I need. It would be nice if you could test the M50 with the most efficient tires available and to make a video about how the M50 can match edrive40 in efficiency. Also it would be nice to hear your opinion on which model drives better. Many RUclips channels prefer the edrive40 and says it is running more stable. Actually many says M50 is a little unstable and feels out of control in some situations.
couple wh / km less if you can find wheels more similar to the gm ev1's wheels couple wh / km less if you tape over the panel gaps couple wh / km less if you change the mirrors to cameras couple wh / km less if you lower the car flat belly cars are the best
Driving in D mode with Adaptive Regeneration would probably yield more efficiency than all of that and less work. Since BMW went with brushes on the motor, the motor can truly freewheel. The car will coast and not regenerate until it needs to decelerate for a reason such as a slower car ahead. Coasting is more efficient than regeneration since you always have energy loss in the transfer. Save B mode for when you KNOW you will be decelerating, like driving around town.
I drove BMWs for 20years. Loved the design and innovations. But after 2 years with a Tesla LR (with KW suspension) BMW feels overcomplex and outdated. And I still don’t get used to the front grill.
Totally agree. I’ve driven BMW coupes for 20 years. Recently switched from BMW M2 to M3LR (with boost). Prefer Tesla now. In Australia BMW EVs are overpriced and no fast charging infrastructure … hopefully that will change
I understand that this is a really nice car! However with my limited Knowledge I would not buy it because of the lack of safety compared to other premium cars. Even the cupra born got a better rating. Do You know maybe a little bit more about those safety tests @Bjoern?
Those tests have become total BS over the years. they give points for systems nobody needs. i dont need the car to tell my if somebody isnt using a seatbelt and i dont need help not hitting people when i drive backwards.
I honest feel 2024 they will Change it.../ So many wasted space in Front Trunk, Rear seat area!!!!!! Great car, good Iconic Engine sound, but Speed and range isn't there and Self Driving tech is NOT there (Way Behind Tesla) At least make Auto Lane Centering Adaptive Cruiser Control Better and will follow cars on Highway or Traffic same speed and distance without disengage!!!!!
Acutally the driving assistant professional performed better than Autopilot in european reviews. Might be different in the US where Autopilot is better optimized
How is Tesla way ahead in tech?! Mercedes has better route planning, driving assists and infotainment. VW and Mercedes have better voice recognition, except for English maybe. Tesla's sign recognition still doesn't work. Two weeks ago a 21-yo amateur coder developed a system far superior to Tesla's with a Raspberry-Pi and a cheap logitech camera. Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name. Tesla is still miles away from autonomous driving as can be seen by looking at the many incidents published on yt every couple of weeks.
"Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name." What does an autopilot do?! You seem unfamiliar with the definition, or Hollywood gave you something wrong.
According to Sandy Munro the i4 material quality is not good enough for a $80K car. Also according to nextmove news the i4 got only 4 of 5 stars in the EU safety tests. I wouldn't buy this car!
I just can't get over the interior. The software looks like an iPhone from 15 years ago. The display is tiny. The navigation maps look like 15 year old TomToms. And then, to add insult to injury, they include this little trackpad thingy... This is a real turn off for me. But then again... I cannot stand any German car interiors. Audi, Mercedes, VW.... they are all equally bad. Tesla is WAY WAY WAY ahead of them... it's not even funny. And I say this as someone who actively decided AGAINST buying a Tesla.
Björn, thanks for your opinion. I own an i4e40 and after almost 4 months of ownership I can underwrite your conclusions on comfort and efficiency. Now, commenting on why first a niche i3 and i8, I believe BMW wanted to avoid recalls on a big volume car. It looks like that the philosophy of how to bring a car to market is totally different between the traditional automakers and the new kids on the block. Where Tesla promises or brings something to market which is not entirely ready (panel gaps, rust on earlier X’s, poor general build quality of seats in earlier days), the Germans and Japanese want to get it right the first time they try. I find it remarkable that BMW brings its first volume model to market on a relatively new technology to them on a compromised platform (according to a lot of people) and gets an efficiency close to the product of a company which is dedicated to EV from their start on.
If the kidney grille was much smaller and this car was running iDrive 6 instead of 7 it would be probably the perfect BMW. Stop with the massive mouth at the front, for the love of God.
@@savedfaves it looks better in when seen live. I didn’t know bmw produced an ev until maybe 6months ago, but saw a 440i and was really impressed and wanted to know what it was. Very sporty looking car😊
Love how the lights, indicators and wheels of the car displayed on the main screen all follow what you are doing.
My 2015 Tesla Model S had that as well
@@TheDanishSpacemantesla🤣🤣🤣
When I was choosing an EV a few months back I ended up going for a Model 3. I still regret that decision, I should have gone for the BMW i4.
Bet you can sell it for more than purchasing price and switch to an i4.
@@markplott4820 jealous much
No regret, I went preordering an i4, and waited for a couple of months, still no sight of delivery, they took our modern technology like parking assist and driving assist options for the eDrive40 MY2023, and now I am back to square one, getting in the waitlist for other EV.
@@markplott4820 safer maybe but handling definitely not.
@@markplott4820 Since you can't spell "handling" and you make your points with all caps, set your GPS for "home" which is Elon Musk's bottom hole.
Agreed, very good car. I love mine.. m sport pro pack is well worth it.. fantastic for long distance driving and also daily commutes.
Is the msport package worth it? What the difference between the steering wheels?
@@kharimott8227 I believe the steering wheel is thicker and has more padding. I like it. For me the main reason for the m sport package was the inclusion of the adaptive suspension: In default "comfort" mode the i4 just glides... and when I switch to "sport" it stiffens up the suspension and changes the steering response making whizzing around all those lovely bends on my way to work a lot of fun. Very happy with my car, except for the extra £750 to enable adaptive cruise control.. (the buttons are on the steering wheel but you have to pay to enable them...) and I also would opt for the enhanced audio.
@@zenortheartof thank you for the help. I just wasnt sure if that msport package was worth the extra price tag but you may have sold me on it
@@kharimott8227 Think as mentioned if you want the more comfortable drive just get the basic sport trim.Depends if you want comfort or a more sporty/firm ride.
Is this one much more comfortable to drive than the M50? Having the Kona today, I would like an efficient car with low consumption (drove Oslo-Lillestrøm in rush hour on average 111Wh/km), but wants to avoid the noise in the cabin. The M50 was ok, but even lower noise level would be good. The wheels had a very low profile, I guess a little less extreme low profile could give more comfort. Anyone with advice on tires? Think I would go for 18». Now there is said to come a 4x4 eDrive40. So there will be a lot of options, as if this wasn’t difficult enough with all the options to choose from already 😅.
The two big Problems about this Car: The Price! In Germany BMW wants you to pay over 1000 Bucks per Month by Leasing for a Version with no Extras! Second is Availability - 14 to 16 Month (!!) and BMW doesn't even want to guarantee that at the moment…
Jeez it’s almost a year and a half to get one? Yeah that’s the problem with these new EVs. People are just foaming at the mouth to get them ASAP. Some hummer EV sold for like 230k a few weeks ago 2nd hand, the market is just insane right now
Yikes 😳! I ordered mine about 3 weeks ago, paid 1k to reserve a spot, and was told 6-9 month delivery. I guess the salesman didn’t give me the real story here, and when I asked about the M50 it would be a year+ for getting that.
Yep: the same in Belgium... I've informed in June about this car. Delivery would be December 2023 (!!) - No writing error...
@@peterpoppe4855 awful! That is a long wait time. Either too popular, or the supply chain is so backed up.
Perhaps I was lucky I ordered in Feb and is available for delivery now. Also in UK if you take as company car with payment out of gross salary before tax the government will tax you only 2%. I am paying c£550 a month . Pretty good deal I thought
man, you hilarious, love your style. you are my to go source for everything electric. cheers!!
It's nice to see that the whole range argument is becoming more and more obsolete. 5% more or less is no longer a real argument for most customers, just as it was not for fossil cars with slightly more or less consumption. Even the eqe or eqs are efficient with the right package, of course not with fat performance tires. But overall it means customers have more choice and fossil cars lose their advantages, that's important, not everyone wants a Tesla and that's the only way more people will switch from fossil cars, that's really the point. Also, whether you need 20min longer or shorter for 1000km is not really decisive, in everyday life it doesn't matter at all for most people. The important thing is that there are now many really good electric cars. Good job BMW and that gives hope for the "new class" platform which then hopefully also loses its excess in weight.
Now the biggest argument is price. Ofc it will go down eventually to closer to ice vehicles.
But now i have car for 5k€ that ticks all my boxes
This is not even an EV platform and it matched the Model 3. I definitely prefer German engineering.
American cars suck. Terrible reliability and expensive AF to maintain.
Could you compare it to the ix3?
Seems like a really nice car. It looks "affordable" in canada, but the base model is very bare bones. Basic options that you'd expect on pretty much any new car, let alone a "luxury-lite" car put the price up very high. This is not some secret bargain. Optioned out this car is very nice. Base model is a short step away from roll down windows.
Base model i4 in Ireland is about €66K (US$67,000).
I added options that you’d normally have and the cost added up to 650k nok. Not bad for a luxury vehicle.
Like the standard Tesla cost 150k nok less but it’s not a luxury vehicle, some are willing to pay more to drive nicer car. I’m gonna wait and buy a used one after 3 years. I’d assume the cost goes down to at least 500k after 3 years
this is such a blessing of a car in the countries where tesla isn't operational at relatively comparative price!
Bjorn can you or anyone please share which OBD reader and App you are using? I noticed you put up a display showing IX3 / I4 on one of your videos. I have been unsuccessful in getting any OBD readers to work. Thanks Mike
Thx Bjørn for the nice driving impressions and I like the i4 very much!
@@markplott4820 your claim is without any base. Im sure the Model Y hasn't a better handling - especially if you choose the sporty chassis.
@@mattleistner313 I never drove a car like Tesla Model Y Performance. Boaty and firm at the same time. Not a good car for roundabouts, not a good car for accelerating hard either, not a good car to have a sporty drive in the mountains. Tesla should partner with BMW to get new shocks cause i4 is heavy and it still does the job wonderful.
@@markplott4820 by watching video review, and you commented on handling. Talk about baseless claims.
How to know Bjorn is in a BMW? The doors open and close. I admit though it sounds great. BMW hit this out of the park?
Do all versions of the i4 eDrive 40 have a heat pump?
Is there a list somewhere with cars that are known to preheat the battery to avoid cold gating during fast charging? It's something that seems to be not officially listed as far as I know, but a very interesting feature to keep in the equation when comparing cars.
Look for a "heat pump". That pre-heats the battery among other things.
How is this model on nordic winter?
Another advantage of an efficient car with such a big battery is a longer life. Since every charge cycle provides 600 km of range the common 1000 charge cycles lead to about 500.000-600.000 km of range. Bjørn, how efficient will this car BMW in winter? What do you think?
Agree! Also keep in mind that the 1000 cycles are to 80ish % remaining capasity (or was it 70%?), which means that it could go for a long time. Say you reach 600 000km and has 70% battery capasity left, that would mean you still would have 420km range (600 * 0.70).
@@rogerstarkey5390 Scandinavians who have ø in their alphabet generally consider ö an acceptable substitute, if for some reason the writer is unable to easily type ø. The letters are so closely related, that for most intents and purposes, they're just regional cosmetic variations of the same letter.
@@rogerstarkey5390 I changed it at once. You are absolutely right. I did not even think about that before 🤦🏼♂️. My fault
@@Hagledesperado Am Germany. We have ö instead of ø. I think in Sweden it is ö and in Denmark and Norway ø? Am not sure about that.
@@marcelbeaucamp9330 That is correct; Denmark and Norway have ø, and Sweden and Iceland have ö.
Fun fact: In some styles of cursive handwriting, the Norwegian ø looks more like ö or ō, but I guess a dwindling number of people are aware of this, as handwriting seems to be a dying skill in the information age.
This generation of bmw motors is very efficient and has a flat curve in the power delivery due to not using permanent magnets in the motor rotor, as the rotor voltage can vary it can also vary its magnetism, with this it no longer uses rare earths in the motor production and manages to increase efficiency, it is a 2 in 1.👌I'm waiting for one of this, one year.😔
@@markplott4820 Yes, it's true, but this is nothing to do with crash test, it's only about lights and systems we usualy turn off, like lane assist.cdn.euroncap.com/media/70210/euroncap-2022-bmw-i4-datasheet.pdf
This i4 is, probably, the last old school car, with some modern features, and for me is the best car to buy and keep for all time, a car where you can see how they made combustion cars...
Waiting for your M50 -summer testing..
Hi Bjørn, what you tried and mentioned around 11:45, is that the same in the M50 model as well? I had a test drive in the e40, and I know what you are referring to. I did not like it. It's a bit like an SUV. Thanks! Great vid as always.
It's available with 17" wheels too, I wonder if it's worth it.
Go with the 17” wheels. More range is always better IMO.
Very good car, no doubt
Hows the traction in wet?
Which ODB dongle are you using in the i4 and which app? I have so far tested 2 different dongles and one works with LeafSpy but not recognized by the i4 or any other apps, and the other is recognized by all the apps but not the Leaf or the i4. After driving the i4 e40 for a month, I am quite happy with it, but I want to check the car out technically a bit more.
Did the clocks reset themselves?
funny that you mention that regarding the punch... I've had the exact same feeling in the 330e, it does like 5.9 sex 0-100, but I but the punch is something else... Right now I have a Volvo v60 T8 that does it in 4,8 seconds, but it does not feel the same way.
The suspension on Beemer is probably tuned better for fast jabbing thrusts And the Volvo may be able to put more power down after 0.5 seconds.
Hi Bjørn, thanks so much for the video! I am really interested in this car, and is wondering if the adaptative suspension from the M50 that you can add to this edrive40 is worth it. Since you tested the two, what do you think?
Would like to know as well
@@shamilmammadov8246 Asked myself and a lot of people the same question. I always get the answer that the adaptive suspension isn't worth the money if you want to get the best bang for a buck. So I ordered mine without the adaptive suspension. I will see if that was a mistake or not :D
But I see the positive side: YOu can fit 17 inch wheels (wich are the base ones) for Winter driving (more range, narrower tires are better in Winter and salt won't hurt the better rims) . And user the 18 inch for summer. At least thats my plan for now.
BMW Bjørn!
Yes, the light Blue 525D. Nice car.
It was gray.
This EV is actually available in South Africa, unfortunately it is very expensive. The new i3 is also available , but also very expensive, but it is good to see some becoming available, now our charging infrastructure will have to be expanded.
i3 is crazy expensive considering the low range. Insane.
This is at least 20% more expensive than the Tesla 3 LR in Australia, seems like it belongs in comparisons with the next class up.
I just spec’d a 3 LR equipped as close as possible to the i4 eDrive 40 that I have on order here in the USA (no enhanced autopilot or FSD) and the Tesla was 4.45% cheaper. That’s before the federal tax credit that the BMW qualifies for, but is no longer available for Teslas. Fair or not, that’s the reality here and with the credit the BMW is 6% cheaper. Govt crash ratings for the Tesla 3 and BMW 440i are both 5-star. The BMW heads up display adds an unquantifiable level of safety. We test drove both and I far preferred the BMW for dynamics, ambience and quality. Tesla is a generation ahead in battery/motor/software but the BMW has near comparable efficiency and gave a more pleasurable driving experience. I also like the fact that the BMW is built in a union factory.
Same in NZ. We get ripped off.
@@markplott4820 That is a common missunderstanding. The new 4-series (incl. i4) is not built on the same platform as the 3-series. It was the same on the previous 4-series, but since it became too small (and low roof) in the backseat, they made a new, longer for the new 4-series.
The i4 in Sweden starts at 640 kSEK and Tesla Model 3 LR at 708 kSEK.
@@markplott4820 Hahahaha, yeah whatever you say.
21:55 "... and they cost twice as much". Nope, EQE 300 starts at 63'500€, BMW i4 40 at 59'000€ in German Configurator. That's 1.08 as much. But I agree, it's a great car, if you're shopping for something in that range.
In Norway: i4 eDrive40: 600k and EQE costs 1.1 mill
@@bjornnyland Wow!?
@@bjornnyland no EQE base versions available in Norway yet? i4 base apparently is.
Edit: Only EQE 43 4Matic available in Norway yet, starts in No Configurator at 909 800 kr. Is that including or excluding tax?
2nd Edit: last page says Totalpris: + 2400 kr Vrakpant*, Pluss 0% moms
*wrecking fee in advance, I guess
When inside the car, is it true that if you open the driver side door, engine off and A/C automatically shuts off too?
thank you Bjorn
seems it is a software issue for i4's in Taiwan
It turns off everything after the last occupant door opens to exit the car.
Is this more fun than the AWD i4 bmw? Is it more fun than Tesla model 3?
Is there a subwoofer with the standard sound system? I know the HK upgrade comes with one.
No extra subwoofer, but you get more space in the underfloor compartment. After listening to HK I thought "to hell with more space, I need that sound" :)
Expensive, but very impressive car!
It kicks ass for the lord 😂
Really like that phrase!
It's a nice reference to the movie 'Braindead' aka 'Dead/alive'.
@@sorglos4332 Yes, I googled it and watched the scene 😉
Well said bjorn. How is the adaptive/cornering light? How is it compared to Volvo/Polestar pixel light?
Sounds weird when you floor it ... like a engine thats hard to run smoothly
No, try it yourself!
That’s the Hans Zimmer electric acceleration sound effect you’re hearing. It can be turned off. And I don’t believe the in-car it would sound quite how it does in the video.
Håper du tester i4 M50 igjen. PLEASE:)
I really wish I could afford this car. There is literally no reason to buy anything gas powered brand new since eveything is going electric in the next ten years. If I could afford this, I'd buy it, maybe m50 version for 4WD, since winters are getting harsher by the year (I live in Finland). After getting it I would probably never sell it, just keep on fixing it until its totally worn out. I guess the only thing that would need fixing is swapping the batteries after ten years or so, right?
Maybe in a few years 4-5 or so these can be bought with reasonable prices as used cars.
You can get an affordable one in 3 years as a used one.
Think you got something wrong here, it makes perfect sense to buy a gas car because there will be less choice in the future and this means less depreciation for you. Meanwhile EVs are improving rapidly and current EVs will depreciate heavily.
@@kaspar737 how so? Since electric cars are mostly more efficient and require less maintenance than fossil based ones, don't you think that once EV's hit cheaper price ranges the gas car prices will drop even more as they are left being only a fun commodity of the past.
Only iconic cars such as BMW m3's and such are the only ones keeping the value for the people who are into such hobby.
Watched this rather old video after ordering the i4 40 as a company car. No M-Sport was allowed so I went for the bicycle tires with small aero wheels for max efficiency. Can´t wait to drive it. Hopfully, it arrives in 2023... waiting time is soooo long
Fantastic
The i4 is very well made (you have to like the looks) but unfortunately it doesn't come cheap either and several have noted that the BMW is overpriced for what's on offer. But of course that is always very individual, because the customer also buys very much based on emotions.
Also, 5 stars in the crash test would actually be a must for a premium vehicle in this price range.
20:05 In my opinion, the user interface at BMW is far better than at VAG-models, for example, where you have huge tiles spread over several pages, which looks very confusing/nested. In my opinion, it makes no sense to make them so big, because the argument "so that you can hit them while driving" is rather weak, because all other controls (including others on the display, like the home button) are much smaller.
@@markplott4820 that test didn’t include knee air bags and deducted points for “pedestrian safety.”
3 series has 5 star safety rating.
@@markplott4820 expert speaking. How about to get your facts right? Nothing is cheap about the chassis and the base clar-platform. It’s all top notch materials and best in class production techniques. Without the sacrifices that Tesla makes in order to reduce costs. Gigacasting is nothing a consumer wants to have.
The star rating is correct, but it’s not because of the protection for passengers, but solely because of less intrusive assistant systems and danger for cyclists.
@@markplott4820 BMW has already been using 48V boardnet in cars for years as of now, since 2019. Model S Plaid is a great car, but Teslas certainly are no luxury cars. The interiors are just awful.
Something is wrong.. i bought this car so bye bye to the fossil world and toyota prius. This car is more fun. And björn, thanks for your videos
The car is so efficient at saving power = saving money = £53k price I won't be spending, that's a lot of money I just saved just by watching a decent vid about the car.
In a climate where half the world is struggling for money these manufacturers still continue to bring out premium priced cars, at least the rich can enjoy them.
Get Opel Corsa-e.
@@bjornnyland I do like it, though I would have to put up with passengers having bleeding knuckles like in your review 😁
Also Corsa does have a bit of a Chav rep here in UK, a bit cheap made and interior but at the 21k price what are you expecting for an EV, we do have better interior in my wifes 19k Fiesta just a shame no full EV of those.
News at 8, BMW manufactures premium cars at high prices.
@@victorfrombcn Nothing to do with BMW cars but EVs altogether, each one brings one out but the pricing is focused towards those with enough cash the fuel pricing crisis wont even bother them anyway, while the rest of us have to pay the fuel prices and wait for second hand EVs or get a Zoe or Leaf.
Get MG ZS EV then. Problem solved.
Tack! 👍🌹
Hi Bjorn, great review 👍 Would you buy that i4 40?
No. For the same price I can buy a Model 3 Performance.
@@bjornnyland Funny, I would never buy the Tesla. But everybody should buy what he like and be happy. That’s all what counts 👍
@@haveaseatplease I thought a mobilephone with wheels 😋
U pay to much for all the extras on the BMW and the waiting time is very long. I really liked it, but when I entered my Xpeng P7 Performance, I felt I was seated and was driving in a much more comfortable and silent car, with more space in cockpit, feels more spacious. BMW felt for me like a conventional gas car. But I did like it alot, but like my P7 better. P7 was the last ev I tried after both this BMW and 15 others.
Another excellent video @Bjørn Nyland
! Do you have the M Sport colors on the side of the FOB with this eDrive40 M-Sport packet? Thanks!
Yes, it comes with them.
BMW compromised on the driving assist and parking assist for edrive40… still feel really upset.
@@KDR816 I still don’t see parking assist pro in the options now for edrive40, kind of desperate trick to force people go m50.
@Yu Cheng I ordered my i4-40 April 7th and it's on its way with all options, including Driving Assistant Pro and Advanced Parking Assist. Also HUD and laser headlights. I realize I'm lucky. (USA)
Thanks Bjørn, great review again. How did you experience the gearbox in lets say a parking situation where you might need to be a bit quick and not be in the way for other cars? I ask because I experience some EVs to be slow in shifting between D and R. The delay can in some cars be reeeeeally frustrating... any thoughts about that on this i4?
Not a problem at all.
@@bjornnyland Thanks Bjørn, really appreciate your answer!
Take a look at 17:30 to see turning around in action.
If they were available and had drive assist features I'd buy one today. But they're not and they don't.
The efficiency in winter will be interesting... Can it match model 3 with heat pump? I doubt it
all Teslas in (and bellow) it´s price range (3,Y) also have AWD, which is a big plus in winter.
Well, cars are not always about efficiency. Otherwise, people wouldn't buy Porsche's when a Toyota is more efficient. The same here. The Model 3 is an efficient car, but it's a toy. Feels like and sounds like a toy. And the wind noise is unbearable. With the i4, I guess you will have less efficiency in winter, but a way better car that is leagues above a Model 3.
@@v.corleone737 hi, that calculation is no longer valid, as BEVs can deliver both power and efficiency at the same time (e.g. a Porsche can be both more efficient and more powerful than a Toyota).
Model 3 will be "leagues above" in the software and tech department.
It is all an exercise in knowing your own priorities.
i4 feels more like a Taycan competitor, because for someone looking for ultimate driving comfort, Model 3 was never an option.
You can go to bmw homepage and get the range at any temperatures between -10 and 35
The data is close to tb tests
Why you drive in the middle of the street, there is not other car ?
Just yeserday I test drove the i4 M50, and the full throttle acceleration scred the shoot out of me. I suspect this edrive 40 is a better package when it comes to everyday driving. Too bad that at least for now awd on the i4 only comes with the higher spec
haha , i had the same feeling testing the M 50 , If I had not used both hands on the steering wheel, then i would driven it off the road .. the sport boost mode was intense. I wanted to test the edrive 40, but seems only the M50 is available as test cars in my country. I dont need the m50 performance and was thinking edrive40 and add some extras instead
@@fixandtests true we dont need m50, i40 is enough.
@Bjørn were you able to test the app and connectivity features? Things like thermal preconditioning, managing charging, unlocking via phone etc. All important for EV drivers in a day-to-day life.
Unfortunately not. The app was too unstable and buggy.
@@bjornnyland Same experience when had one leased. Bought the MYP after.
@@meteoraniac Thanks for feedback, disappointing about the BMW app, i have the peugeot app and it is next to useless.Peugeot never fix the errors.
Bjørn, please make a video about which model you would choose, the edrive40 or M50. I'm trying to choose between these models. I also live in Scandinavia so my concern is how a rearwheel drive car will handle winter conditions. I would need the range that the edrive40 has and the power it has is already more than I need. It would be nice if you could test the M50 with the most efficient tires available and to make a video about how the M50 can match edrive40 in efficiency. Also it would be nice to hear your opinion on which model drives better. Many RUclips channels prefer the edrive40 and says it is running more stable. Actually many says M50 is a little unstable and feels out of control in some situations.
M50 seems to be focused on straight line speed not so much sporty driving feel.
"drift mode" and the 50hp extra "Boost" mode.in the GV60 might disagree.
Such a nice car if it wasnt for that hideous front end.
agree 100%, some of us still want a beautiful BMW not ugly beaver grilles.
Shockingly I actually love the grill.
Beaver mouth wow.
couple wh / km less if you can find wheels more similar to the gm ev1's wheels
couple wh / km less if you tape over the panel gaps
couple wh / km less if you change the mirrors to cameras
couple wh / km less if you lower the car
flat belly cars are the best
Driving in D mode with Adaptive Regeneration would probably yield more efficiency than all of that and less work. Since BMW went with brushes on the motor, the motor can truly freewheel. The car will coast and not regenerate until it needs to decelerate for a reason such as a slower car ahead. Coasting is more efficient than regeneration since you always have energy loss in the transfer. Save B mode for when you KNOW you will be decelerating, like driving around town.
All that matters is range, whats the real world range?
Me like, me want!
Happy done with this. As good as it is and as a lifelong BMW fanboi, I'll never buy it in current form because its so ugly. My opinion, my cash..
I chose the i4 over the polestar. I4 looks so much better! Polestar is more close to an suv than to a gran Coupé. Something feels off with this car.
BMW: beaver mouth goes “wow!”
Who else wants kebab after seeing this?
Now that you mention it ...
Kabeaver?
I drove BMWs for 20years. Loved the design and innovations.
But after 2 years with a Tesla LR (with KW suspension) BMW feels overcomplex and outdated.
And I still don’t get used to the front grill.
To me it is the complete opposite. Focus is on driving not on Software with touch screen only.
Totally agree. I’ve driven BMW coupes for 20 years. Recently switched from BMW M2 to M3LR (with boost). Prefer Tesla now. In Australia BMW EVs are overpriced and no fast charging infrastructure … hopefully that will change
I understand that this is a really nice car! However with my limited Knowledge I would not buy it because of the lack of safety compared to other premium cars. Even the cupra born got a better rating. Do You know maybe a little bit more about those safety tests @Bjoern?
Those tests have become total BS over the years. they give points for systems nobody needs. i dont need the car to tell my if somebody isnt using a seatbelt and i dont need help not hitting people when i drive backwards.
Ice car converted to ev
I honest feel 2024 they will Change it.../ So many wasted space in Front Trunk, Rear seat area!!!!!! Great car, good Iconic Engine sound, but Speed and range isn't there and Self Driving tech is NOT there (Way Behind Tesla) At least make Auto Lane Centering Adaptive Cruiser Control Better and will follow cars on Highway or Traffic same speed and distance without disengage!!!!!
Acutally the driving assistant professional performed better than Autopilot in european reviews. Might be different in the US where Autopilot is better optimized
call me when they make an i4 on a bespoke EV platform
How is Tesla way ahead in tech?!
Mercedes has better route planning, driving assists and infotainment.
VW and Mercedes have better voice recognition, except for English maybe.
Tesla's sign recognition still doesn't work. Two weeks ago a 21-yo amateur coder developed a system far superior to Tesla's with a Raspberry-Pi and a cheap logitech camera.
Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name. Tesla is still miles away from autonomous driving as can be seen by looking at the many incidents published on yt every couple of weeks.
"Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name." What does an autopilot do?! You seem unfamiliar with the definition, or Hollywood gave you something wrong.
@@Zedus-rl9hp I don't get my definitions from "Hollywood", however autopilot =/= crappy lane assist.
Tesla has octovalve. Read up about how it is.
@@bjornnyland Isn’t that just a valve block for distributing cooling vater?
@@bjornnyland Is there an article not written by a fanboy, clickbait vaporware salesman or biased share holder on it?
According to Sandy Munro the i4 material quality is not good enough for a $80K car. Also according to nextmove news the i4 got only 4 of 5 stars in the EU safety tests. I wouldn't buy this car!
Sandy Murno 😂😂😂
@@ulyden1947 sandy rambles too much in his vids. Feel like they could be 5 minutes at max
I just can't get over the interior. The software looks like an iPhone from 15 years ago. The display is tiny. The navigation maps look like 15 year old TomToms. And then, to add insult to injury, they include this little trackpad thingy... This is a real turn off for me.
But then again... I cannot stand any German car interiors. Audi, Mercedes, VW.... they are all equally bad.
Tesla is WAY WAY WAY ahead of them... it's not even funny. And I say this as someone who actively decided AGAINST buying a Tesla.
Does it fit for a family? Even if m3 has more trunks liters?