New Opel Grandland X Hybrid4 FULL REVIEW of the Vauxhall PHEV AWD - Autogefühl
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the Opel Grandland X Hybrid4. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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Great video intro, guys. Many thanks for the technical information, AJ, and the commentary - very good work. UK configurator says it's very expensive & no HUD! (Grandland X Ultimate Nav Hybrid4 AWD is £46.6k. BMW 330e (PHEV) Sport Pro with Tech Pack, Premium Pack & Comfort Pack is £43.3k). I'm hoping for much more pure EV range from future PHEV's...! Many thanks AJ.
thanks John!
I have test driven this car and in sport mode its rapid, 0-60 in 6 seconds I loved it very comfortable and easy to drive
It is a very nice car. Just gave my parents one instead of their 2015 GTE. I did a V-Box, and it actually goes 0-100 kph in about 5.2 seconds. No slouch for what it is.
Best review I’ve seen on this car. Excellent job.
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Oh, wasn’t the Opel Ampera / Chevrolet Volt the first PHEV? Well, in a PHEV, the combustion engine is the main driver. In a REX car, the motor is just there for situations when the battery is depleted - as range extender, Opel also called this Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV). The Ampera did drive all-electric until the battery was depleted and then changed to the combustion engine. If you solely look at “where can I put in a cable”, you can call both Ampera and Grandland X PHEV. So at the end of the day, it is a question of definition. In a narrower sense, the Grandland X Hybrid4 is the first PHEV which works with the common PHEV system where the petrol engine is the main component. Opel themselves say it is their first PHEV as they understood the Ampera as EREV / electric vehicle with range extender (REX).
I keep looking at Ampera's on used car sites ... I would really like to have one for interest purposes ... but here in Portugal, you need to find 17k (euro) to get one, so compared to a Prius etc, holding value amazingly well for a extinct model 🤔
The Ampera is not considered a PHEV because the combustion engine only works as an electric generator, meaning it doesn't drive the wheels, only the electric motors do.
Good review - especially the points about visibility and traffic lights (speaking as an Audi cabio driver. Traffic lights are difficult to see )
Hello. Does it work in awd mode after the batteries are depleted? I am asking this because I read that the petrol engine can't recharge the batteries. Thank you
Great review btw
Great review. Excellent job. Wish this was available in the South African Market.
Highly appreciated!
Very well presented!
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Nice video! Is there an "autohold" brake function?
Yes there is.
Wow, very nice artistic intro!!! Great job
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Great review, as always 😎👍
I have a question. How much is this car an Opel and how much is it an Peugeot?
Similar in technology but different in style and setup. We ll soon test the Peugeot 3008 phev, stay tuned! And already check our existing 3008 reviews! RUclips search Autogefuehl Peugeot 3008
“A fairly responsible touchscreen” :)
Works great. Have you ried a car that has a touchscreen that is not sensitive enough? Go drive a Taycan, worst infotainment ever.
At last I have been waiting for a decent review on this car. A good review, thank you. In my opinion a Peugeot 3008 done properly (i.e. no ridiculous small steering wheel). I would like to think that a Peugeot 5008 based PHEV might be on the cards possibly?
Thanks! Sure that should be no problem, question is if they see the market for that
thé 5008 will be available as PHEV but one motor at the front only
@@incassable Thank you for the information - In my long life I have found that you simply cannot have everything....
Kim Ridgwell to be honest, a 5008 with 300hp phev is pretty useless...
on the autobahn you will not get that power, only the small 1.6 once the battery is depleted ... and why would you need crazy 0-100kmh figure in that kind of car ?
there is no space at the rear for the new axle and motor, that would cost the extra 2 seats
@@incassable I was not thinking about loads of hp, but for economy around town - as for the 2 extra seats - like the Outlander PHEV you mean...???
This is most SUV that is built with substandard materials.I was fortunate to sit in one today and everything was fallen off .
Great review. OK. Comfortable rather than sporty. Otherwise, it looks a bargain compared to other plug-in hybrids in terms of power, equipment and comfort. It just moved up my list to take a closer look. And it looks really nice too. Most SUV's are just plain ugly, but this is nice.
Cheers! Also compare the sister model 3008: ruclips.net/video/H_6EUwoO7qs/видео.html
Long version of that airing today as well
Where is the spare wheel?
Great review and an interesting vehicle ... I like it - clearly it's issue is cost, no badge cache or impact visually ... So who is this car aimed at ... I assume the mum and two kids group? But that area is normally badge obsessed unfortunately ?
Cheers!
Gotta love the fact that they call that stuff leather.
I have this car for the next 3-4 months. Im already impressed. The drivetrain is really good and its fairly quiet too. The suspension feels relatively stiff yet soaks up bumps really well. Minus points for the design inside and out. It looks a bit dated. The price tag is a bit high, but understandable considering the performance(300hp). So its a tough choice. Would not get this car in lower specs.
thanks for the feedback!
This is the same hybrid drivetrain as in Peugeot 3008 and DS7 Crossback, right?
Aye, also see our new 3008 phev review
@@autogefuehl thanks. I have just one more question about this car, and i could not find any info on it in the internet (also in your 3008 phev review)
So - the car doesn't feel that fast when your floor it (because of loud engine response). But is it objectively fast looking on the speedometer?
On the highway you were driving pretty carefully, so what happens when you really floor it, does it behave well ? Like, is 0-180 km/h, or 80-160 kind of acceleration as objectively fast as 300 horsepower would suggest? Because some people claim this drivetrain and gearbox is overhelmed by the hybrid power and can't manage it, to the point its not fast at all.
But I don't think its that slow.... Would you still call it noticeably faster than non-hybrid grandland?
Would like it to be a bit sporty like the new Kia Sportage 2022
niceeeeeeeeeee
I love this red/black color mix! Though I do own Zafira in similar dark red color, which I also love, so I'm a bit biased. Test drove normal petrol Grandland X last year, I think its nice. Comfortable, quiet, looks good. Excellent review from Autogefühl, as usual!
That pricing though! On Opel.de basic Grandland X Hybrid starts at 51k euro for basic model with engine featured in this review without any options, 44k for most basic model. It feels like another compliance vehicle not meant to be sold and a money grab. Petrol vehicle + 10 years worth of fuel is cheaper than this hybrid.
thanks !
Pricing is the result of subventions most european countries have for EV/PHEV cars. In Germany its actually 4000€ (6000€ planned) so the car will start at 45.000€. Thats in price range of the petrol version in same trim and top of the line engine.
@@arejee3380 But its not. Following prices are taken from German official websites:
1.6 petrol (which is not lowest spec), automatic, innovation trim: 36.3k euro, same gearbox and trim with lowest hybrid engine is 44.6k euro. However petrol is much lighter, so it doesn't need that big engine and can drive well with simple 1.2 petrol that in same innovation trim with automatic gearbox costs 32.9k and with manual costs 30.6k, price difference is massive. Those are prices in Germany.
Lets take a look at Honda CRV prices for comparison: Elegance spec with petrol engine 32.4k, with hybrid 36.2k.
Lets take a look at Toyota RAV4 prices: 35.1k petrol, 38.6k hybrid.
Similar cars, but price difference is tiny. Grandland X price difference is unreasonably huge even with cars of similar spec and they don't offer hybrids for lower specs.
What happens if you don't plug it in?
Nothing
Why don't I have the paddle shifters? Did they remove them in 2021 model?
Might depend on engine
@@autogefuehl I have 1.6L Petrol Turbo
And this here is phev
what is the 0-60 time ?
Official 5.7. Tested about 4.8-4.9.
Hmm looks good
Leather is a "Byproduct" of the food industry.
So leather seats are "Environmentally Friendly" unlike Synthetic (plastic mix) materials.
Not true. You pay for suffering for animals and humans. First, check out what the leather industry is trying to do:
ruclips.net/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/видео.html
Below this video you'll find more resources in the pinned comment to explain the topic even more in-depth.
The leather in that car has never seen an animal.
What really lets the steering feedback down, is the tyres. Those 205/55R19 Primacy 3 are not very sporty shoes. Very much targeted towards mileage and eco'ness. Put the slightly wider rims and 235/50R19 Pilot Sport 4 SUV on it, and it is completely different. Not a sports car by any means, but it helps a lot.
thats not slightly wider but 3 centimeters. for tyres a big amount
@@napoleon950 What did I write? Read it again. I said nothing about slightly wider tyres.
@@AB-80X you said slightly wider rims. rims tend to match the tyre on width. and you mention going from 205 tyres to 235's. if the rim is 'slightly wider' then the same distance for tyres is also 'slightly wider'
@@napoleon950
I said a slightly wider rim. You can run that 235/50R19 on a 7 as well. My point which you clearly missed, was to run a slightly wider rim e.g a 7.5” or 8”. That is a slightly wider rim and has zero bearing on the actual figment swing that the tyre size I suggest is approved for rims ranging from 7.0” to 8.5” wide. The main reason for choosing the wider rim, is to increase response. Hell, this you could do by fitting that 205/55R19 on a wider rim, as it will stiffen up the sidewall.
Finally I would like to point out that 235/50R19 is not very aggressive for the Grandland. It is an optional size you can choose as an option depending on your choice of wheel. Even if you get the smaller 18” wheels, you get 225’s. The 205 is an “extra” narrow tyre they offer for the hybrid, and a rather poor choice for such a heavy car.
Not sure what your point was. Look at what comes on the car as standard and optional. The silly 205 is the one that stands out, not the 215, 225 and 235 offerings.
super
X6 should be hybrid too - 500 HP from V8 and 200-300 HP from electric engines. There is a lot of room for batteries :-)
not lots of room, as dumb coupe suv design already limits cargo space
No longer made hybrid 4 auto which is a shame
►Compare the Opel Grandland X Ultimate: ruclips.net/video/wqmoZQjUyQM/видео.html
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60.000 € price tag and even doesn't the hood lifts? No, thanks Opel. WTF!
Does it matter? Do you go there often? Why pay for something you don't need?
@@AB-80X It's part of the car you paid for it! Even the more cheaper cars has hood lifts. Of course I need it! I can open and close just one touch otherwise if you can't offer me this standart thing why I pay for your car €60.000 Opel?
@@ibbg1 What? I don't understand that.
@@AB-80X Nevermind!
That trunk is... laughable. Of course, being a hybrid, you cannot expect more, but this is not a family car at all. For a couple, yes, maybe.
It's not as bad as it looks on camera, it's raised a little, grandland x is a crossover in my eyes not a full sized suv, we got a demo at work
Must have big family then. Man you'd better go for a Ford Transit or something like that. LOL
Nowadays people are just being ridiculous with their demands !
I have a small MPV - Kia Carens, which has some 570 litres of boot space. This has some 350+! You call that "not small"? Well, it is...
My guess is that you being an American, you have a skewed view of what is actually necessary. It is not a Burp, but it never tried to be.
@@JoeKundlak Your car does not have a 570 liter boot, it is 492, so 100 liters more than this. That is not a huge deal actually. 390 is not a lot less than a 2010 Audi A4 Avant. That was 420 liters. You need something like a 5 Series BMW Touring or Merc E to get into the size you claim. Add to that this might only have 390 litres, but it is a very well laid out boot, so it uses a lot of that space.
And lastly, I don't care what the boot space is, but I would not be caught dead in a Kia.
better than thomas
i would say different, but better? I think every car should be reviewed by them both, then you would really see different points of view.
@@cytrynowy_melon6604 thomas is far away from being objective
@@emreplt But in what way? Is he favorizing specific brands? I have seen much worse reviewers
Prefer the Peugeot but at the prices Vauxhall are quoting for a Hybrid that will be considered an enemy of the state in a few years, the price is just too goddamn high!!
You know what the problem with the Puggie is? You will have to be seen in it...
Really unrealistic. 4 5l is such a good figure surely, no?
Is this still based off a GM platform?
3008 collab
Autogefühl ah okay makes sense. Looks nicer than anything brought to the US and rebadged as a Buick.
@@Zachman676 it looks like the new Buick Encore GX.
@@Zachman676 more research...
Wiki:
PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
@M. S. it is the Buick Encore GX in the states. It will be made in Korea for us.
PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
Nice model auto 4 wheel drive but this model is no longer made
Looks exactly like 2020 Buick Encore GX.
GM VSS-F platform
Wiki:
PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
€51,000!!! REALLY! Oh but is a HYbRiD.... Most would get a Range Rover, something more luxurious... not a boring, plain car with flimsy plastic. Even the Outlander I think is cheaper...
Where do you live where you can get a Range Rover hybrid for this kind of money?
Stupidly expensive for what it is, totally unfathomable.
I thought I didn't hear him right when he said 51.000€, I had to rewind to hear it again.
Costs more than the Peugeot equivalent. Do Opel/Vauxhall think consumers are dumb or have deep pockets? Or both?
That's just the price of cars these days. Just gave my retired parents one. Nice car.
@@GAMEBREAKER700 Have you seen the Puggie? It is terrible on the inside by comparison.
I don't understand why hybrids exist. Just make an EV
more practical. You can fill up at a gas station and continue. While still saving gas overall. With a battery vehicle you have the annoying charging times which is annoying in longer intercity rides.
Basically A hybrid already recuperates electricity back through braking and deceleration and the plug in supplements that with more electricity from the grid.
I think a Hybrid is the Car for our time period. Sure there are already amazing battery vehicles now. But I'll give them another decade before they can truly be accepted by the masses. Hybrids are just slightly more practical range wise
@@carlosandleon Which sounds great but the battery pack makes the car heavier and owning a hybrid out of warranty is not a good idea at all. Give me an EV or Petrol engine.
@@thabisomaleka3933 Simple solution: don't get a hybrid out of Warranty
It's for people who do not want to give up the reliability of a conventionally powered car but want to help the enviroment
Hybrids are there because most of people are conservative beings, they need smooth adaptation period before full EVs come. That's the true reason. Range anxiety problem exists more than in people heads than in reality. Manufacturers make use of this and produce hybrids, its better for them especially because hybrids will need more maintenance in the future in comparison to electric cars, so some dealers will make more money on servicing. You can do oil changes on a hybrid, but on EV? Just reduction gear grease change once in 10 years. The only thing you can change frequently on EV is brake fluid (every 2 years or so). That's why dealers prefer hybrids.
Another reason are tax benefits. Hybrids are cheaper than electric cars to produce, but still get huge tax benefits or additional government funding.
Hybrid is only a reasonable choice if your company offers you a car, with specific maximum leasing rate monthly.
If the car that fits in your lease rate is most powerful in the hybrid version (like in case with this Opel, Puegeot 3008 or DS7 Crossback), then hybrid makes most sense.
It’s nice but it is no family car. That boot is just laughable. Give us some decent sized PHEVs!
You need to see one before you talk. It's a fairly roomy boot.
You forgot the Opel ampera
See comment to that topic!
That's an EREV. The engine is completely separate from the wheels
Comment: "Oh, wasn’t the Opel Ampera / Chevrolet Volt the first PHEV? Well, in a PHEV, the combustion engine is the main driver. In a REX car, the motor is just there for situations when the battery is depleted - as range extender, Opel also called this Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV). The Ampera did drive all-electric until the battery was depleted and then changed to the combustion engine. If you solely look at “where can I put in a cable”, you can call both Ampera and Grandland X PHEV. So at the end of the day, it is a question of definition. In a narrower sense, the Grandland X Hybrid4 is the first PHEV which works with the common PHEV system where the petrol engine is the main component. Opel themselves say it is their first PHEV as they understood the Ampera as EREV / electric vehicle with range extender (REX)."
Autogefuhl, do you think Opel/Vauxhall Astra would sell well in US/Canada
Ugly old school opel design. Nothing new, they just follow the competition. Chrome strips? Elegant? Oh my god!
His name is not aj but ajay, he is indian.
Dude be proud youre indian.
Stop westernizing yourself, people accept you for who you are
No his name is Aditya and AJ is just a nice short term combined of his name and surname. Relax :)
@@autogefuehl tomatoes tomatoes, my comment stands. He should use his real name, because its beautifull and should not feel ashamed about it. And respect for the slim german dude that promotes vegan interiors.
no one is ashamed
People can choose to blend in or stand out, you're not the boss of people's brains
Peugeot 🤦♂️
No, worse-Citroen