The Old Saxon Genesis
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2021
- When Anglo-Saxon poets translated Genesis into the Old Saxon language, the reworked the text to include themes common to warrior epics like Beowulf. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place gives an overview of the text and discusses whether it was the inspiration for John Milton's great English epic, "Paradise Lost."
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These lectures are great, but I wish questions were saved for the end instead of all the interruptions and side tracks.
As one who also enjoys deep research, I find your discussions very fascinating. Keep up the good work.
EXCELLENT..........AGAIN
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation.
A great lecture/discussion from Hamer as usual. A couple of minor points: (1) the title is a bit of a misnomer as Hamer talks mainly about the Anglo-Saxon (i.e., Old English) Genesis B; (2) the description of the talk is wrong: "When Anglo-Saxon poets translated Genesis into the Old Saxon language" > "When O.S. poets translated Genesis from Latin into O.S." or "When A-S poets translated the O.S. Genesis from O.S. into Old English", depending on what you want to say; (3) though Geoffrey of Monmouth added some material to the Arthur myths, he didn't invent them; he was working from previous sources, maybe Nennius; (4) it's not entirely clear that the Arthur stories were believed as history; certainly some medieval writers, e.g., Giraldus Cambrensis, explicitly doubted them.
I'm an atheist. with a BA in NT. never worked in the field but a lifelong curiosity of it and just want to say that John Hammer is an excellent lecturer and very broadly knowledgeable. these are fun to listen to.
The Anglo Saxon part starts at 32 47. The prelude is still very interesting
He's so knowledgeable
For the record, 'Scotus'/'Scoti' didn't once mean Irish and then come to mean Scottish. What it meant was Gael, and the Gaelic kingdoms at the time covered both Scotland and Ireland, hence the confusion to modern eyes. As the Kingdom of Scotland (Kingdom of Alba) was originally unified as a Gaelic kingdom, it got its name from its primary ethnic group. It is only centuries later as lowland scotland, and crucially the scottish court, is anglicized that confusion arises around what 'Scot' means.
As soon as he started reading out the riddle I thought "Tolkien must have been inspired by this!". And a moment later I get called on it. I'm hopeless!
Loved the mention of Ray Walston as The Devil in the film Damn Yankees. It's a must-see.
I did not know that about the Lord of the Rings riddles. Very fascinating to learn they are much more ancient than the Hobbit.
Please work on the audio! Still giving a thumbs up even though I can barely hear the message. 🙏
I’ve heard the speaker mention in a couple videos that he has a video about the historical development of the idea of the devil, but I can never find it.
So shouldn't depictions of the serpent before the tempting have legs?
🌸verrrry interesting…🌸
Been binging the videos on this great channel. And in almost every video, I can always count on the same old lady in the audience (Elizabeth?) to interrupt the talk with some stupid tangent.
A few thoughts on the language discussion.
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