"15 years ago, this old 3990X, with it's quite impressive for the time 64 cores and 128 threads, was AMD giving Intel the kick up the rear it needed to do better, while also coming with a rather cheeky price of "just" $3,990. Let's see how it performs with the latest titles today as of 2035."
@@jacobross1971 Mine didn't overclock at all because I had a shitty P45 MSI motherboard with it, so during the whole time I ran this CPU at the stock speed of 2.83 Ghz.
I used a Core 2 quad Q9650 paired with a 1050 ti back a year and a half ago. I was able to play the witcher 3 at 60fps, but the 8 gigs of 667mhz ddr2 made loading a pain in the butt! All of my games were stored on a western digital blue SSD. One thing to note is that I used the Intel DG33TL motherboard.
That Crysis 3 performance is actually pretty damn impressive for such an old chip. I remember swooning over this thing back in the day when I had an E8400!
I remember when I used to work retail that I won an Intel qx6850 from intel retail edge (just the cpu). It replaced my core 2 duo e6600. Cheapest motherboard I could find was $220 retail. For the time, it was crazy fast but it was murder to use in the summer because it would heat up the room +10 degrees. Had to spend $100 on cooling after I kept getting overheating warnings on my board. Sold it after the economy took a dump in 2009-2010 and I went back to school.
You should really test this thing with Windows XP and Games from the era. I would love to see you venturing more into Retro-Gaming Style Videos even if that's not your typical thing.
@@jakeofiach5044 imagin having a window on your case looking in and just seeing musterd cables sticking out the middle of your build like a still attached ambilical cord
I would still keep my old fellow Q9550, but the lack of the SSE4.2 instructions made me change it. That's why AC:O, Quantum Break, RDR2 and such games don't work on it.
In Ubi games like The Division 2, The Crew 2, or newer Watch_Dogs game, it needs AVX instructions too so older CPUs like Core 2 Quads and Phenoms will probably need to upgrade
I got a q9650 in a free faulty gaming PC and it actually bested my fx6300 new build at the time. Needless to say I was a bit miffed but I returned the 6300 bundle and used this up till 2018 when I got my Ryzen. This was such a solid chip at 3.4ghz and it's my uni pc to this day. I'm also watching this in a hurricane.
Can i get thay p5q deluxe after u upgrade to new pc! .. that p5q deluxe is one of my dream build and if i can get it with the cpu ! It will be very helpful ! ... I can't get any good condition p5q deluxe. Would be even cooler if u have all the original accessories & parts came with the box!
Kuntal Ghosh Oh man, really sorry about that. I will not sell this combo. Also i bought mine with the board only, no accessories in sight. I would only sell it if i find an Original Rampage 1 paired with a QX 9770 or 9775 and 8gb of 1000mhz+ memory. Alternatively i would also take a Dual Socket 775/771 board, if it is from some kind of 'Gaming' Line, and not a workstation board. I've been dreaming of the ultimate socket 775 build for years now.
@@Cher007 me too lol , my first pc was lga775 and its still running at my office.. not a very significant board.. just a g31 with q6600 & gt710.. so i let it run at the office and its going strong for 12yrs.
@@canss1951 well most of these older high end builds r for those who wasn't able to build the system with these specs when it was new and it became a dream for those to own such a system one day and use it! .. i have a r7 1700 & rx580 but i still own a pentium 4 machine cuz that one was my first build & looking for a q9650 + asus p5q deluxe , 16gb ddr2 & gtx480 sli! For the ultimate heater !
Not a QX but I once used a Q6600 CPU based pc, it lasted surprisingly far until things started to feel like it had the speed of molasses during it's last year in use.
@@TheRealFobican that's the processor I used on my everyday "office" PC until not long ago. Certainly today it lacks the snappiness of more modern CPUs even on Linux but I still loved using it all these years
I ran a Core 2 Quad until about two years ago where I upgraded to a 2600CP mainboard with 128gb RAM and two Xeon E5-2667v2 CPUs, plus a 1070ti. Loved that Core 2 Quad, longest running main PC CPU I ever had.
Can remember when the earlier dualcore Intel Extreme 3.2 processor came out, in 2005. I was upgrading my PC which had 1st gen DDR-266mhz ram. "It was a single core 2.0ghz Pentium 4 based PC, from 2002." Back then a GB or two was all that was required to play an MMORPG like Everquest. " This thing would have been an optimal build a couple years later. I still remember the first computer I ever used at age 5. An 5.25 inch floppy based Apple 2.
In all fairness that is more of a 720p cpu at most. Nothing wrong with the video but it would have been nice to see the average on resolutions the cpu was made for compared to the 1080p. I’m always gonna be a used/older hardware fan and love seeing them being used.
I got a dell with a core 2 quad and it seems to work well enough for what it is. I have a 750 ti 2gb in it with 8gb DDR2. It plays better than I expected!
I was using a Q6600 with BSEL mod (the black electrical tape trick that fools the front end bus frequency from 1066 to 1333Mhz). I ran with that mod to 3.0Ghz for over 6 years, a 25% increase to the stock 2.4Ghz. The power supply started to fail at 11 years...then the motherboard. For those 11 years I did quite a few upgrades, for instance 64bit WIN 8.1 from 32 bit Vista, to take full advantage of the 16 GB RAM. Of course, an SSD really made the biggest, followed by a GPU upgrade to the GTX 1050. I could play WoT in low settings at reasonable frame rates for my gamer capabilities...which arguably suck. For general productivity, it is still a decent platform. I upgraded to the venerable X79 platform with E5-1650V2 ($62), 32GB 1600 DDR3 RAM, and ASUS P9X79Pro ($20)...new case with tempered glass and RGB...new 650W PS, GTX 980; an overall update that cost me just over 610 bucks.
I love this CPU, it is in of the top spots of my collection. Right next to the QX9770, which is sooo incredibly power-hungry and hot it's quite a worse chip than the "lower positioned" QX9650 is lol. If I run it, I run it at 4,4 GHz 11x400 on a P5Q-E, with a Mugen 5 cooler. The P5Q series are some of the best boards out there for 775 IMO
I still own 2 Asus P5Qs as backup... I normally pair it with a Xeon E5450 at 3,6 GHz and 8gb RAM. That's nearly the same setup. Nice to see a video of what it can and cannot do. Thanks. :)
I actually used the non-extreme version of this CPU, which was the Q9650 up until 2015 or 2016. I still have it today and would consider it a pretty good chip for a basic setup. There are obviously better alternatives out there but I would recommend getting a Q9650 as a last ditch effort to squeeze more life out of an LGA 775 system.
My first prebuilt was back in 2006 i think, core 2 duo e2400, 2.8ghz, 2 cores 2 threads, then in 2013, another prebuilt, amd fx 4170 quad core 4.2ghz, 4 cores 4 threads, now in 2020, my first build from scratch, ryzen 7 2700x, 8 core 16 thread, interestingly enough i have only ever had the money for budget builds so around about £390 each for the first 2 and £500 for the newest one, fascinating to see that arc over time
I ordered this CPU For my PC and been waiting on it for about a month now from China with my current setup compared to what i can get with this I can tell I'll be pretty happy only having to spend 65$USD here plan on upgrading even more in the upcoming month like you're videos bro keep it up 💪
What is so amazing about this.... If the chip was made for high performance, and is in fairly good condition, then 13 years later it will still be capable of doing what it was made for. I had a laptop for 7 years, and what broke it was just the fan. All the other parts were in great condition.
I very recently upgraded from an Core2Quad q9650 to a Ryzen 5 3600. In newer titles such as Forza Horizon 4 and Gears of War 5 I went from the mid/high 20's fps to over 200 fps on the CPU side of things. That q9650 served me well for many many years. Now about that 4GB GTX 760...
with 50% more cores and triple the threads that's also hardly fair :P single core performance would have the ryzen need maybe 1.7ghz for every 3 this cpu puts out.
my phenom x4 9850 is much worse, at least it plays gta v but it's unstable with frequent BSODs (SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION nvlddmkm.sys 0x000003b) and crashes. Rosewill 550W PSU ASUS M2N68-AM Plus Phenom X4 9850 2.5 GHz 8 GB RAM (2x 4gb ddr2) GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 500GB HDD 2TB HDD Windows 7
I have just retired my Intel board Core2 quad 9650 for no other reason than it would only take 8 gig of memory. It was originally my XP dev box long ago and when the first board started to get a bit unreliable, I got an identical Intel board from Germany. It doesn't have the grunt of late model i7s but it was always a great performer.
I had a C2E Q9300 in a Dell Precision laptop years ago. It ate battery and could happily heat a small/medium room. It was a killer for mobile gaming at the time though!
I just love your content you make this kind of video with old processors and gpu 's just keep making this type of content idk why i like it but feel good to watch old tech
Looking for ideas? You've touched on this in the past, but I think a definitive 2020 version of "best GPU to balance with various CPU generations". For instance, I have a 3770K i7 and it seems to pair well with a GTX 1070 or even 2-way SLI. Picking a good GPU for each major generation of CPU would be helpful!
The Core 2 Quad CPUs were pretty cool back in those days. However, all of them are just 2 Core 2 Duo's strapped together and each of the chip modules had to use the FSB in order to communicate with each other. That usually isn't a big deal but on my old Q8200 based machine there were certain situations when I would multi-client a now mostly defunct MMO where I could saturate the FSB and completely tank FPS as a result. To the point where an older Athlon X2 4000 based PC with an older video card running the same amount of clients and same graphics settings would be faster than my Q8200 based PC! I was so glad when Intel finally moved past the FSB after the Core 2 days! I think some of the games tested in this video are running into that FSB situation when utilizing 3 or 4 cores and the low FPS is a result.
Ah ... 2007. Back when you got 2.2 dollars to the pound. I had some good trips to the USA back then. I was running a C2D 6300 back then with a huge OC, paired with an X1950 XTX. A year or so later I did a full system rebuild with an i3-540 (again, huge OC) and a pair of HD4770's. Once Starcraft II was released I had to ditch the ATI's for a GTX570.
Still got my qx9650 on the asus p5e3 ws pro with 8gb ddr3 ram Overclocked to 3.81ghz on air cooling. Paired with an rx570 8gb. Its old but gold.🤗 Still does the job for most games until 2016 in 1080p
Nice! I am collecting a Core 2 Quad system with used parts i can buy for little money. A Q9650, a MSI P55 Neo, a GTX 960 4gb, 4x 2gb DDR2 Ramsticks and a Sharkoon VG7-W red had already been purcased. Only need a SSD and a PSU. I am excited 😆
Using a Q9650 instead, which does SSE 4.1 at just 95W TDP at stock over the QX9650, on a Gigabyte EP35-DS3R motherboard, which can easily be overclocked from 3.0 to 3.6GHz via the front side bus, with a BeQuiet! Shadow Rock LP cooler. Also using it with a 2GB EVGA 750 Ti SC, 4x2GB G.Skill DDR2 1000 memory, and an EVGA 550 G2 PSU.
Got a MSI P35 platinum rig handed back that i built an age ago,with a lower dual-core and i was surprised by the quality of the motherboards then.The sheer number of fan headers,and the fact it had PCI Express slots alone.Shame the duals and quads are pants now.
Budget version of this: Socket 775 Mainboard, Xeon E5450, mod Board and CPU for the Xeon to run on that board, update microcodes (Some boards don't even require that), overclock and boom - stable 4GHz almost every time. Those Xeons cost next to nothing online aswell.
Interesting result with CS:GO... I'm averaging 100 with a Q8400 at 3.6GHz and a GTX 1070 with settings on high. I've just ordered a Xeon X5482 (QX9770) and am planning on upgrading to that and running some new benchmarks with the xeon having tripple the L2 Cache, the Core 2 series loved the extra cache.
I just recently built a machine for XP/Vista with the QX6850. 2x 8800GTX, 4gb DDR2 800, 2x250gb WD raptors in RAID 0 and a SA510 SSD. Holy crap does it run hot!
I can't believe that 13 years later threadrippers and ryzen cpus will be slow. We're already in the 7nm process. So will have CPUs with smaller than nm process. The thought of that just blows my mind.
I had the Q9450, and it served me well for about 5 years, I remember dual core was usually the recommended specs for gaming back then, then it slowly moved to quad core, got by fine with it paired with my HD5850, longest lasting system I ever had probably......
I have one. Still operating today. Running Linux Mint perfectly fine for a typical office running web, email etc. Keeping it out of the bin for at least the next 10 years....
I just wanna say I have an Asus P5Q SE P45 Motherboard with a Q9500 stock 2.83 GHz. I got an overclock of 600 MHz to get 3.4 GHz with a Hyper 212 LED cooler. It overclocked fairly well and easily, but couldn't get a stable 3.6 GHz overclock (although it booted to windows and ran prime95, with errors). Temps are great, never exceeding 67 degrees Celsius in the worst case scenario.
Sad to finally see LGA775 end up being not fit for gaming anymore it's still good for modern office computing and basic home user tasks though. I think it'll take a lot to take some of these computers away from some people. Especially if they have an SSD. They have just been so consistent in performance for those tasks and the 4core ones are still plenty good.
Surprising how well this holds up today! This CPU is over 10 years old but can still play some modern games such as Fortnite, GTA V, as well as most e-sports titles without issue.
Late to the party I know but I had this board with the qx 9650 running 8 gigs ddr2 in 2021 just to see what it could do. Wasn't very happy with it. I found a good deal on a newer gen asus board running 12 gigs of ddr3 and the difference was night and day. Runs the older games like a champ and a lot of the newer ones as well with some adjustment settings in the games. I hope you can find a better board and do an update video on it.
I’d enjoy this whole looking-at-old-hardware series better if you’d explain why the old hardware doesn’t perform as well as the new hardware. Is the CPU cache size too small? Does it not have enough PCIe lanes? Is the super old RAM really the issue? I love learning about hardware, and I think a lot of other people do, as well. It would be really cool if this series had more information than just benchmarks
Compared this CPU to my old Phenom II X4 940 BE It's pretty much the same performance, kinda happy to see the results for the games I could never buy full price lol In these games, the perfect fit are probably the GTX 1050 Ti or below for the QX6550, since it has roughly half of the 1660 Ti's performance and 1660 Ti only used ~45% during testing.
I had a Q9650, it was the original Crysis slayer back in the day. Of course with your stock cooler, a 3.6 GHz OC is pretty sad. A Q6600 was capable of doing that, and that was the cheapest Core 2 Quad CPU. My 9650 ran at 4.05 GHz with the FSB synced to 1800 MHz with my 1800 MHz DDR 3 on an ASUS 790i Ultra Striker II Extreme. However, I am surprised you were able to get an SSD working. I couldn’t get one to work on my older nForce 780i socket 775 mobo.
I already did this, I could have told you, the problem isnt the chip, it's the lack of stability and compatibility you will face with the motherboard, I got it to work, but the constant glitches took the fun out of it
***Question for Dave the seagull***The standard version of Kingdom Come Deliverance is going to be free for 6 days starting Feb 13 on the Epic Games Store. Right now you can browse through the different editions of the game and DLCs that you can purchase separately. One of the DLCs is the HD texture pack. Do you have this DLC pack installed when bench-marking this game on different types of hardware? Thanks, Dave!
my Q8400 OCed to 3.4Ghz on Gigabyte X38 (SSD, 8Gb of RAM and GTX750Ti) is really outdated... but Gosh i really love this computer and will keep it as long as it live just for legacy games and Music Programs..
The real question for these old CPUs is whether they can play 720(60) and 1080(60) youtube videos alongside a couple of open tabs in chrome/firefox and some random office programs.
Confirmed working with an overclocked Q6600, 3.25 Ghz, 8 GB RAM, handles HTML5, Google Maps 3D, Earth, and everything web-based fine. 4k/30 FPS RUclips is more or less a decent experience with some stutters here and there, but with 4k/60 FPS it's like watching a slideshow. Overall, 1080p/60 FPS, or 720p/60 FPS is absolutely butter smooth, and you can also have a second screen opened scrolling through Facebook, or transferring files without a hiccup. Although the Core2 Quad LGA 775 is no longer as relevant for gaming as it once was, it still can handle daily tasks with ease, even older Photoshop, and even modern Office programs operate perfectly fine, especially when paired with an SSD. That is my experience, hopefully that provides a decent insight on the architecture of these chips.
As newer games need more and more processing power older CPUs will struggle to maintain or even get 60 FPS no matter what GPU you use. Case in point, I have an Ivy Bridge i5 and it cannot get a stable 60 FPS in either Red Dead Redemption 2 or Resident Evil 2 no matter what settings I set them to, so instead I opted for locking them at 30 FPS with medium/high settings. But even then, since both of those games are thread-hungry I still get occasional dips or outright freezes. The days of 4 core/4 thread processors for gaming are pretty much at an end, unless you're on a budget and don't mind 30 FPS (like me). And in a few years they'll probably be as bad as the QX9650 for new games.
RandomGamingInHD 10 years from now: testing this 13 years old i9 9th gen processor!
and this old ryzen 9 3950x with only 16 baby cores :D
"15 years ago, this old 3990X, with it's quite impressive for the time 64 cores and 128 threads, was AMD giving Intel the kick up the rear it needed to do better, while also coming with a rather cheeky price of "just" $3,990. Let's see how it performs with the latest titles today as of 2035."
@@outtheredude coasts 30€😂😂😂
@@alcorex8409 Or $39.90 as of 2035? ;-)
I realised I will be 60 in 2035 providing I will be still alive by then. This makes me quite sad. It's just as far as 2005.
This was my dream CPU back in 2008, but eventually I got the Q9550 instead.
God you're old
I also really wanted this just because it showed up at the start up of Crysis
I still have my old pc with that. Perfectly paired with a 750 ti.
MegaBojan1993 I had a 9550 too. It overclocked to well over the extreme chip’s clock speeds.. great cpu
@@jacobross1971 Mine didn't overclock at all because I had a shitty P45 MSI motherboard with it, so during the whole time I ran this CPU at the stock speed of 2.83 Ghz.
2:03 Well, I purchased a new Seagull for this very occasion.
Wrong. That seagull has been a staple of this channel forever. And if anything, the seagull was used when he bought it.
@@MysteryD ∆
All hail the seagull!
but the dog
It's DAVE THE SEAGULL.
2007: EXTREME!!!
2020: *not extreme anymore sorry*
🙁
but it works, on 40 fps or below.
@@xasthured7074 😃👍
@@xasthured7074 Overclocked you'll get a comfortable 55-60 fps at 1080p
2007: EXTREME!!!
2020: Extremely SLOW!!!
I used a Core 2 quad Q9650 paired with a 1050 ti back a year and a half ago. I was able to play the witcher 3 at 60fps, but the 8 gigs of 667mhz ddr2 made loading a pain in the butt! All of my games were stored on a western digital blue SSD. One thing to note is that I used the Intel DG33TL motherboard.
That Crysis 3 performance is actually pretty damn impressive for such an old chip. I remember swooning over this thing back in the day when I had an E8400!
The e8400 was no joke either, especially with a good OC
@@GhettoPCbuilds e8400 is one of the best cpus ever!!!
@@GhettoPCbuilds i play wiedzmin 3 4k on e8400
@@GhettoPCbuilds dude is it possible to overclock e8400 on any mobo
@@ratna1779 g41 p45 +++ yes g31 no
I remember when I used to work retail that I won an Intel qx6850 from intel retail edge (just the cpu). It replaced my core 2 duo e6600. Cheapest motherboard I could find was $220 retail. For the time, it was crazy fast but it was murder to use in the summer because it would heat up the room +10 degrees. Had to spend $100 on cooling after I kept getting overheating warnings on my board. Sold it after the economy took a dump in 2009-2010 and I went back to school.
Cool story arc bro
You should really test this thing with Windows XP and Games from the era. I would love to see you venturing more into Retro-Gaming Style Videos even if that's not your typical thing.
Agreed
Yes
Aye, Doom on a SX25 overclocked to 33mhz in glorious 640x480. A bit of oldskool Amiga & Atari goodness would go down well with some of us older farts.
2:20 The location of the 24-pin connector is very unsettling...
what a stupid location. enjoy cable management
Linus hadn’t invented cable management yet
@@jakeofiach5044 imagin having a window on your case looking in and just seeing musterd cables sticking out the middle of your build like a still attached ambilical cord
Its maybe stupid, but you dont have to wire +12V through whole pcb (motherboard)
funny thing is, chinese motherboard sometime did this till this day
I would still keep my old fellow Q9550, but the lack of the SSE4.2 instructions made me change it. That's why AC:O, Quantum Break, RDR2 and such games don't work on it.
You can actually play quantum break (as well as control) with a modded .DLL file. That's what I use and it's a surprisingly decent experience
Just like with Phenom, essential instructions just murdered them.
Why would you want to??
In Ubi games like The Division 2, The Crew 2, or newer Watch_Dogs game, it needs AVX instructions too so older CPUs like Core 2 Quads and Phenoms will probably need to upgrade
Low Spec Benchmarks you can emulate it and it runs flawlessly apparently
just setted an alarm for the Threadripper video, can´t wait for it!
Dave the seagull, the _true_ highlight of the video as usual
I got a q9650 in a free faulty gaming PC and it actually bested my fx6300 new build at the time. Needless to say I was a bit miffed but I returned the 6300 bundle and used this up till 2018 when I got my Ryzen. This was such a solid chip at 3.4ghz and it's my uni pc to this day.
I'm also watching this in a hurricane.
I love it the way this guy just causally puts pc parts on random places like the garden floor, patio tables coffee tables. Professional till the end 😂
I always enjoy watching your videos about old hardware! Thanks for always making them enjoyable!
I also run this cpu in my RUclips and Netflix machine...! On a P5Q Deluxe, Paired with 8gb of ddr2-800 and a Radeon HD6870 it goes pretty well 🙂👍🏼
Can i get thay p5q deluxe after u upgrade to new pc! .. that p5q deluxe is one of my dream build and if i can get it with the cpu ! It will be very helpful ! ... I can't get any good condition p5q deluxe. Would be even cooler if u have all the original accessories & parts came with the box!
Kuntal Ghosh Oh man, really sorry about that. I will not sell this combo. Also i bought mine with the board only, no accessories in sight.
I would only sell it if i find an Original Rampage 1 paired with a QX 9770 or 9775 and 8gb of 1000mhz+ memory. Alternatively i would also take a Dual Socket 775/771 board, if it is from some kind of 'Gaming' Line, and not a workstation board.
I've been dreaming of the ultimate socket 775 build for years now.
@@Cher007 me too lol , my first pc was lga775 and its still running at my office.. not a very significant board.. just a g31 with q6600 & gt710.. so i let it run at the office and its going strong for 12yrs.
It does consume so much electricity for using only those applications. Be considerate of the world
@@canss1951 well most of these older high end builds r for those who wasn't able to build the system with these specs when it was new and it became a dream for those to own such a system one day and use it! .. i have a r7 1700 & rx580 but i still own a pentium 4 machine cuz that one was my first build & looking for a q9650 + asus p5q deluxe , 16gb ddr2 & gtx480 sli! For the ultimate heater !
We used these processors for 3d and After Effects when i7 were the new expensive thing. Good CPUs
Not a QX but I once used a Q6600 CPU based pc, it lasted surprisingly far until things started to feel like it had the speed of molasses during it's last year in use.
@@TheRealFobican that's the processor I used on my everyday "office" PC until not long ago. Certainly today it lacks the snappiness of more modern CPUs even on Linux but I still loved using it all these years
Glad you didn't get rid of that Intel cooler since it's one of the old ones with a copper core.
still a waste on taht CPU. Witha proper cooler this thing can go well over 4 Ghz.
I ran a Core 2 Quad until about two years ago where I upgraded to a 2600CP mainboard with 128gb RAM and two Xeon E5-2667v2 CPUs, plus a 1070ti. Loved that Core 2 Quad, longest running main PC CPU I ever had.
1:30 For a moment there, I was shocked that it got a better score than my CPU. Then I realised it's Cinebench r20 not r15. Phew...
@edmunds tomsons :I. Mine (i5 4690k 4.3ghz) does 630/640 in cb15 but 1580/1588 in cb20.
@edmunds tomsons That makes more sense.
My 1600 AF @4.0 GHz got 3000+ in CBR20.💪 410 single
I never tried any benchmark on my setup. If anyone has a 9600k just tell me your cb result lmao
@OHYEAHminingiron.mp3 in cb15 the 9600k gets 1170-1200 score and in cb20 2620-2700
Can remember when the earlier dualcore Intel Extreme 3.2 processor came out, in 2005. I was upgrading my PC which had 1st gen DDR-266mhz ram. "It was a single core 2.0ghz Pentium 4 based PC, from 2002." Back then a GB or two was all that was required to play an MMORPG like Everquest. " This thing would have been an optimal build a couple years later. I still remember the first computer I ever used at age 5. An 5.25 inch floppy based Apple 2.
I love when I look at budget parts on RUclips and this man always comes up
In all fairness that is more of a 720p cpu at most. Nothing wrong with the video but it would have been nice to see the average on resolutions the cpu was made for compared to the 1080p. I’m always gonna be a used/older hardware fan and love seeing them being used.
You should include power draw from the wall into all your reviews 👍
I love the colorful aesthetic of motherboards in this time period
I got a dell with a core 2 quad and it seems to work well enough for what it is. I have a 750 ti 2gb in it with 8gb DDR2. It plays better than I expected!
I was using a Q6600 with BSEL mod (the black electrical tape trick that fools the front end bus frequency from 1066 to 1333Mhz). I ran with that mod to 3.0Ghz for over 6 years, a 25% increase to the stock 2.4Ghz. The power supply started to fail at 11 years...then the motherboard. For those 11 years I did quite a few upgrades, for instance 64bit WIN 8.1 from 32 bit Vista, to take full advantage of the 16 GB RAM. Of course, an SSD really made the biggest, followed by a GPU upgrade to the GTX 1050. I could play WoT in low settings at reasonable frame rates for my gamer capabilities...which arguably suck. For general productivity, it is still a decent platform.
I upgraded to the venerable X79 platform with E5-1650V2 ($62), 32GB 1600 DDR3 RAM, and ASUS P9X79Pro ($20)...new case with tempered glass and RGB...new 650W PS, GTX 980; an overall update that cost me just over 610 bucks.
I love this CPU, it is in of the top spots of my collection. Right next to the QX9770, which is sooo incredibly power-hungry and hot it's quite a worse chip than the "lower positioned" QX9650 is lol. If I run it, I run it at 4,4 GHz 11x400 on a P5Q-E, with a Mugen 5 cooler. The P5Q series are some of the best boards out there for 775 IMO
I still own 2 Asus P5Qs as backup... I normally pair it with a Xeon E5450 at 3,6 GHz and 8gb RAM. That's nearly the same setup. Nice to see a video of what it can and cannot do. Thanks. :)
Yup great setup with a decent gpu.
I remember this cpu back in the day, I believe my dad had it in one of his massive builds. Love your videos, m8.
Jspeedy from US
I actually used the non-extreme version of this CPU, which was the Q9650 up until 2015 or 2016. I still have it today and would consider it a pretty good chip for a basic setup. There are obviously better alternatives out there but I would recommend getting a Q9650 as a last ditch effort to squeeze more life out of an LGA 775 system.
My first prebuilt was back in 2006 i think, core 2 duo e2400, 2.8ghz, 2 cores 2 threads, then in 2013, another prebuilt, amd fx 4170 quad core 4.2ghz, 4 cores 4 threads, now in 2020, my first build from scratch, ryzen 7 2700x, 8 core 16 thread, interestingly enough i have only ever had the money for budget builds so around about £390 each for the first 2 and £500 for the newest one, fascinating to see that arc over time
I swear 90% of this channel is ancient tech that used to be good, and I love it.
I ordered this CPU For my PC and been waiting on it for about a month now from China with my current setup compared to what i can get with this I can tell I'll be pretty happy only having to spend 65$USD here plan on upgrading even more in the upcoming month like you're videos bro keep it up 💪
What is so amazing about this.... If the chip was made for high performance, and is in fairly good condition, then 13 years later it will still be capable of doing what it was made for.
I had a laptop for 7 years, and what broke it was just the fan. All the other parts were in great condition.
I remember when a few collegemates, getting hands on Pentium Extremes [Dual Core was reel deep socket show off]... I feel old
I very recently upgraded from an Core2Quad q9650 to a Ryzen 5 3600. In newer titles such as Forza Horizon 4 and Gears of War 5 I went from the mid/high 20's fps to over 200 fps on the CPU side of things. That q9650 served me well for many many years. Now about that 4GB GTX 760...
1:30 Ryzen 5 3600 almost matches it... at 0.8 GHz
with 50% more cores and triple the threads that's also hardly fair :P
single core performance would have the ryzen need maybe 1.7ghz for every 3 this cpu puts out.
my phenom x4 9850 is much worse, at least it plays gta v but it's unstable with frequent BSODs (SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION nvlddmkm.sys 0x000003b) and crashes.
Rosewill 550W PSU
ASUS M2N68-AM Plus
Phenom X4 9850 2.5 GHz
8 GB RAM (2x 4gb ddr2)
GTS 450 1GB GDDR5
500GB HDD
2TB HDD
Windows 7
@@pentiummmx2294 I don't like the PSU name
i'm wanting to eventually go with a Seasonic. as well as upgrade to a AMD Ryzen.
@@GewelReal yeah I'm biased against the rosewill name too haha, Fuckin A why not just call it Roswell instead of aliens I think of flowers.
I have just retired my Intel board Core2 quad 9650 for no other reason than it would only take 8 gig of memory. It was originally my XP dev box long ago and when the first board started to get a bit unreliable, I got an identical Intel board from Germany. It doesn't have the grunt of late model i7s but it was always a great performer.
that intro is like an opening from fallout.
war... war never changes....
I had a C2E Q9300 in a Dell Precision laptop years ago. It ate battery and could happily heat a small/medium room. It was a killer for mobile gaming at the time though!
I just love your content you make this kind of video with old processors and gpu 's just keep making this type of content idk why i like it but feel good to watch old tech
This would be my dream CPU back in 2020 🤣(I still used a Celeron 900 (no not Celeron 900MHz but the Core 2 Solo based 2,20GHz one) laptop back then)
Ah, what a perfect end to my day. A new RGinHD video. ❤️
Nice 😀 I actually have the QX9650 and a Q9650, lovely processors for their time 😉 wouldn’t recommend them now though 🤪
My E5200 still does what I need it to do.
Looking for ideas? You've touched on this in the past, but I think a definitive 2020 version of "best GPU to balance with various CPU generations". For instance, I have a 3770K i7 and it seems to pair well with a GTX 1070 or even 2-way SLI. Picking a good GPU for each major generation of CPU would be helpful!
The Core 2 Quad CPUs were pretty cool back in those days. However, all of them are just 2 Core 2 Duo's strapped together and each of the chip modules had to use the FSB in order to communicate with each other. That usually isn't a big deal but on my old Q8200 based machine there were certain situations when I would multi-client a now mostly defunct MMO where I could saturate the FSB and completely tank FPS as a result. To the point where an older Athlon X2 4000 based PC with an older video card running the same amount of clients and same graphics settings would be faster than my Q8200 based PC! I was so glad when Intel finally moved past the FSB after the Core 2 days! I think some of the games tested in this video are running into that FSB situation when utilizing 3 or 4 cores and the low FPS is a result.
Core 2 will never die
Ah ... 2007. Back when you got 2.2 dollars to the pound. I had some good trips to the USA back then. I was running a C2D 6300 back then with a huge OC, paired with an X1950 XTX. A year or so later I did a full system rebuild with an i3-540 (again, huge OC) and a pair of HD4770's. Once Starcraft II was released I had to ditch the ATI's for a GTX570.
Got a Q9550 running a home server, clocked at 3.6GHz, 670GTX, 20TB storage. 24/7
Still got my qx9650 on the asus p5e3 ws pro with 8gb ddr3 ram
Overclocked to 3.81ghz on air cooling. Paired with an rx570 8gb.
Its old but gold.🤗 Still does the job for most games until 2016 in 1080p
Nice!
I am collecting a Core 2 Quad system with used parts i can buy for little money.
A Q9650, a MSI P55 Neo, a GTX 960 4gb, 4x 2gb DDR2 Ramsticks and a Sharkoon VG7-W red had already been purcased. Only need a SSD and a PSU.
I am excited 😆
Socket 775... blast from the past 💨
Still got one right here which I built and was my son's 1st ever pc. : ) It has Q6600 in it.
I wish you had the cpu temps and power consumption values aswell during gaming but this is still a good video from oldie goldies days!
Using a Q9650 instead, which does SSE 4.1 at just 95W TDP at stock over the QX9650, on a Gigabyte EP35-DS3R motherboard, which can easily be overclocked from 3.0 to 3.6GHz via the front side bus, with a BeQuiet! Shadow Rock LP cooler.
Also using it with a 2GB EVGA 750 Ti SC, 4x2GB G.Skill DDR2 1000 memory, and an EVGA 550 G2 PSU.
Got a MSI P35 platinum rig handed back that i built an age ago,with a lower dual-core and i was surprised by the quality of the motherboards then.The sheer number of fan headers,and the fact it had PCI Express slots alone.Shame the duals and quads are pants now.
I am going to hold you to your commitment on the Threadripper, see you in 13 years!
I had a Q9650 back in the day. It ran nicely at 4.35GHz watercooled.
I recently built a q9550 tower for about $40. Nice little box and a great bargain.
Budget version of this: Socket 775 Mainboard, Xeon E5450, mod Board and CPU for the Xeon to run on that board, update microcodes (Some boards don't even require that), overclock and boom - stable 4GHz almost every time. Those Xeons cost next to nothing online aswell.
Interesting result with CS:GO... I'm averaging 100 with a Q8400 at 3.6GHz and a GTX 1070 with settings on high. I've just ordered a Xeon X5482 (QX9770) and am planning on upgrading to that and running some new benchmarks with the xeon having tripple the L2 Cache, the Core 2 series loved the extra cache.
I just recently built a machine for XP/Vista with the QX6850. 2x 8800GTX, 4gb DDR2 800, 2x250gb WD raptors in RAID 0 and a SA510 SSD. Holy crap does it run hot!
I can't believe that 13 years later threadrippers and ryzen cpus will be slow. We're already in the 7nm process. So will have CPUs with smaller than nm process. The thought of that just blows my mind.
Is anyone else wondering why the volume on RGinHD's vids is so low compared to other youtube videos?
I had the Q9450, and it served me well for about 5 years, I remember dual core was usually the recommended specs for gaming back then, then it slowly moved to quad core, got by fine with it paired with my HD5850, longest lasting system I ever had probably......
I have QX9650 and QX9770 today. Very cool stuff.
2:08 that seagull looking at the motherboard as if its something to eat
the difference between high and low in csgo delivers mostly the same framerate, but the details on your weapons and skins looks so much better
we should bombard this guys P.O box with hardware to review.
I have one. Still operating today. Running Linux Mint perfectly fine for a typical office running web, email etc.
Keeping it out of the bin for at least the next 10 years....
I just wanna say I have an Asus P5Q SE P45 Motherboard with a Q9500 stock 2.83 GHz. I got an overclock of 600 MHz to get 3.4 GHz with a Hyper 212 LED cooler. It overclocked fairly well and easily, but couldn't get a stable 3.6 GHz overclock (although it booted to windows and ran prime95, with errors). Temps are great, never exceeding 67 degrees Celsius in the worst case scenario.
We all enjoy your videos so much. Thank you.
The ending was wholesome.
Sad to finally see LGA775 end up being not fit for gaming anymore it's still good for modern office computing and basic home user tasks though. I think it'll take a lot to take some of these computers away from some people. Especially if they have an SSD. They have just been so consistent in performance for those tasks and the 4core ones are still plenty good.
Surprising how well this holds up today! This CPU is over 10 years old but can still play some modern games such as Fortnite, GTA V, as well as most e-sports titles without issue.
I still have my intel Q9650. still working but retired from service for several years
Brought one of these a couple of weeks ago. I love it. Except for the egg frying capabilities...
Late to the party I know but I had this board with the qx 9650 running 8 gigs ddr2 in 2021 just to see what it could do. Wasn't very happy with it. I found a good deal on a newer gen asus board running 12 gigs of ddr3 and the difference was night and day. Runs the older games like a champ and a lot of the newer ones as well with some adjustment settings in the games. I hope you can find a better board and do an update video on it.
I’d enjoy this whole looking-at-old-hardware series better if you’d explain why the old hardware doesn’t perform as well as the new hardware. Is the CPU cache size too small? Does it not have enough PCIe lanes? Is the super old RAM really the issue? I love learning about hardware, and I think a lot of other people do, as well. It would be really cool if this series had more information than just benchmarks
This is like getting Epic raid items from World of Warfcraft and using them to level in TBC.
Compared this CPU to my old Phenom II X4 940 BE
It's pretty much the same performance, kinda happy to see the results for the games I could never buy full price lol
In these games, the perfect fit are probably the GTX 1050 Ti or below for the QX6550, since it has roughly half of the 1660 Ti's performance and 1660 Ti only used ~45% during testing.
Actually, you can play quite a lot of games on that CPU, including quite a lot of not that old classics.
I have a QX6700 in the Pc i watch tv and movies on. Still going strong
And so begins the wait for the year 2033 to see that thread ripper review
In the beginning of the video it's like that CPU is about to jump off and end his life :(
World in Conflict or Company of Heroes are both excellent old RTS's with a built in Benchmarking!!
I had a Q9650, it was the original Crysis slayer back in the day. Of course with your stock cooler, a 3.6 GHz OC is pretty sad. A Q6600 was capable of doing that, and that was the cheapest Core 2 Quad CPU. My 9650 ran at 4.05 GHz with the FSB synced to 1800 MHz with my 1800 MHz DDR 3 on an ASUS 790i Ultra Striker II Extreme.
However, I am surprised you were able to get an SSD working. I couldn’t get one to work on my older nForce 780i socket 775 mobo.
I'm waiting for that Ryzen Threadripper video in 2033!
Really looking forward to it, mate.
It might be a year too late, but I remember getting over 60fps stable on a core 2 quad Q6700 @ 3.4ghz. Don't know how the QX9650 is struggling...
I really enjoy these videoes and getitng a look at what once was the top of the line stuff to get being reduced to "nothing".
I already did this, I could have told you, the problem isnt the chip, it's the lack of stability and compatibility you will face with the motherboard, I got it to work, but the constant glitches took the fun out of it
***Question for Dave the seagull***The standard version of Kingdom Come Deliverance is going to be free for 6 days starting Feb 13 on the Epic Games Store. Right now you can browse through the different editions of the game and DLCs that you can purchase separately. One of the DLCs is the HD texture pack. Do you have this DLC pack installed when bench-marking this game on different types of hardware?
Thanks, Dave!
my Q8400 OCed to 3.4Ghz on Gigabyte X38 (SSD, 8Gb of RAM and GTX750Ti) is really outdated... but Gosh i really love this computer and will keep it as long as it live just for legacy games and Music Programs..
1:30 At first I looked and thought that this 13 year old cpu is outperforming my 3600... Then I realized the clock speed.
The real question for these old CPUs is whether they can play 720(60) and 1080(60) youtube videos alongside a couple of open tabs in chrome/firefox and some random office programs.
Confirmed working with an overclocked Q6600, 3.25 Ghz, 8 GB RAM, handles HTML5, Google Maps 3D, Earth, and everything web-based fine. 4k/30 FPS RUclips is more or less a decent experience with some stutters here and there, but with 4k/60 FPS it's like watching a slideshow. Overall, 1080p/60 FPS, or 720p/60 FPS is absolutely butter smooth, and you can also have a second screen opened scrolling through Facebook, or transferring files without a hiccup. Although the Core2 Quad LGA 775 is no longer as relevant for gaming as it once was, it still can handle daily tasks with ease, even older Photoshop, and even modern Office programs operate perfectly fine, especially when paired with an SSD.
That is my experience, hopefully that provides a decent insight on the architecture of these chips.
I really enjoy my Q9550 paired with the DX48BT2. Very solid for playing older games, even at 4K on my tv.
This. Is. God tier design of a cpu
Using a q9650 in an old dell for my Plex server. Still software transcodes 2 to 4 simultaneous streams fine
You can get some boards for that CPU which will allow you to use DDR3 RAM. It does make quite a difference in performance.
That's why I'd rather upgrade my current LGA775 PC (HP Pavilion a6515f) to a Q9550: It supports only DDR2.
@@greatwavefan397 The 9550 supports DDR3 with the right board.
As newer games need more and more processing power older CPUs will struggle to maintain or even get 60 FPS no matter what GPU you use. Case in point, I have an Ivy Bridge i5 and it cannot get a stable 60 FPS in either Red Dead Redemption 2 or Resident Evil 2 no matter what settings I set them to, so instead I opted for locking them at 30 FPS with medium/high settings. But even then, since both of those games are thread-hungry I still get occasional dips or outright freezes.
The days of 4 core/4 thread processors for gaming are pretty much at an end, unless you're on a budget and don't mind 30 FPS (like me). And in a few years they'll probably be as bad as the QX9650 for new games.